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punchoutsb wrote:You know what, I'll go ahead and call it now since I don't mind potentially being wrong.

Bisping is going to beat Whittaker. 4-1 UD.

I'll take Whitaker by the same score.

Jaywheel wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote:

p4p1 wrote: I do think he takes that fight as well.

MW is very interesting now though because while I think Whittaker will take out Bisping, Mousasi and Rockhold are probably stylistically probaly worst matchups.

If GSP fails miserably in his return bout at 170, where does that leave Bisping/GSP? Sure, they could fight, but it wouldn't do as good had Bisping been the first to get him. While I understand and give Michael props for what he did, as much as I can't stand the dude, he has paid his dues and deserves a big payday.

White lately said that GSP's ship has sailed regarding the Bisping fight.

The GSP situation is strange.
I wonder if GSP has come out of retirement to run down his contract? When he retired his contract froze...

p4p1 wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I didn't think yoel looked anything near amazing in the first two rounds. In fact, a healthy Whittaker likely shuts him out if he doesn't stop him.

I admit I get caught up in how athletic the guy is when he is fresh. He's using skills he started learning in his 30s which I think is just so impressive.

I agree a healthy Whittaker probably would've stopped him as the fight went on. A lot of people seem to be underrating(not on here) what Rob was able to do though, now some are calling Romero a bum and even more outrageously some are saying he was robbed.

Do we know for certain either fighter entered the cage at 100%? Sure we know Whittaker got injured but this is MMA, fighters are rarely at 100% entering the cage never mind leaving it. Anyway Romero is never going to win a 5 round decision without a 10-8 or 2. Whoever made the "best 3 round fighter" comment was right but he's really only a 2 round fighter.
I though the fight was pretty easy to judge and I'm pretty sure all of the judges had it exactly the same. Romero is what he is, he'd have either stopped Bisping in the first 2 or lost a decision. I'd always leaned towards the former but you never know with Bisping, his chin is average but his recuperative powers are very high.

Deadendgeneration wrote:

p4p1 wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I didn't think yoel looked anything near amazing in the first two rounds. In fact, a healthy Whittaker likely shuts him out if he doesn't stop him.

I admit I get caught up in how athletic the guy is when he is fresh. He's using skills he started learning in his 30s which I think is just so impressive.

I agree a healthy Whittaker probably would've stopped him as the fight went on. A lot of people seem to be underrating(not on here) what Rob was able to do though, now some are calling Romero a bum and even more outrageously some are saying he was robbed.

Do we know for certain either fighter entered the cage at 100%? Sure we know Whittaker got injured but this is MMA, fighters are rarely at 100% entering the cage never mind leaving it. Anyway Romero is never going to win a 5 round decision without a 10-8 or 2. Whoever made the "best 3 round fighter" comment was right but he's really only a 2 round fighter.
I though the fight was pretty easy to judge and I'm pretty sure all of the judges had it exactly the same. Romero is what he is, he'd have either stopped Bisping in the first 2 or lost a decision. I'd always leaned towards the former but you never know with Bisping, his chin is average but his recuperative powers are very high.

He's also mega active. Bisping was thought of as a huge puncher before the UFC. He trained himself to be a volume striker after TUF and this contributed to his losses. In the Rockhokd fight he digs his toes in and nails Luke and finished him with hard punches. If he could alternate between the two styles in a fight he'd do better. Dan Henderson is his bogey man.

Tomasino wrote:

Deadendgeneration wrote:

p4p1 wrote: I admit I get caught up in how athletic the guy is when he is fresh. He's using skills he started learning in his 30s which I think is just so impressive.

I agree a healthy Whittaker probably would've stopped him as the fight went on. A lot of people seem to be underrating(not on here) what Rob was able to do though, now some are calling Romero a bum and even more outrageously some are saying he was robbed.

Do we know for certain either fighter entered the cage at 100%? Sure we know Whittaker got injured but this is MMA, fighters are rarely at 100% entering the cage never mind leaving it. Anyway Romero is never going to win a 5 round decision without a 10-8 or 2. Whoever made the "best 3 round fighter" comment was right but he's really only a 2 round fighter.
I though the fight was pretty easy to judge and I'm pretty sure all of the judges had it exactly the same. Romero is what he is, he'd have either stopped Bisping in the first 2 or lost a decision. I'd always leaned towards the former but you never know with Bisping, his chin is average but his recuperative powers are very high.

He's also mega active. Bisping was thought of as a huge puncher before the UFC. He trained himself to be a volume striker after TUF and this contributed to his losses. In the Rockhokd fight he digs his toes in and nails Luke and finished him with hard punches. If he could alternate between the two styles in a fight he'd do better. Dan Henderson is his bogey man.

Yeah I'm well aware that Bisping can punch, I had a few BJJ classes at the Wolfslair back in my summers away from uni and his power was spoken of though I never even saw him training. My assumption was the movement and thus lighter punching was because of his own deficiencies in the chin department and the fact that he could keep up that pace for 5 rounds. I think the issue with alternating is leaving himself vulnerable.

Deadendgeneration wrote:

Tomasino wrote:

Deadendgeneration wrote:
Do we know for certain either fighter entered the cage at 100%? Sure we know Whittaker got injured but this is MMA, fighters are rarely at 100% entering the cage never mind leaving it. Anyway Romero is never going to win a 5 round decision without a 10-8 or 2. Whoever made the "best 3 round fighter" comment was right but he's really only a 2 round fighter.
I though the fight was pretty easy to judge and I'm pretty sure all of the judges had it exactly the same. Romero is what he is, he'd have either stopped Bisping in the first 2 or lost a decision. I'd always leaned towards the former but you never know with Bisping, his chin is average but his recuperative powers are very high.

He's also mega active. Bisping was thought of as a huge puncher before the UFC. He trained himself to be a volume striker after TUF and this contributed to his losses. In the Rockhokd fight he digs his toes in and nails Luke and finished him with hard punches. If he could alternate between the two styles in a fight he'd do better. Dan Henderson is his bogey man.

Yeah I'm well aware that Bisping can punch, I had a few BJJ classes at the Wolfslair back in my summers away from uni and his power was spoken of though I never even saw him training. My assumption was the movement and thus lighter punching was because of his own deficiencies in the chin department and the fact that he could keep up that pace for 5 rounds. I think the issue with alternating is leaving himself vulnerable.

True. How did you find the wolfslair?

Tomasino wrote:

Deadendgeneration wrote:

Tomasino wrote:

He's also mega active. Bisping was thought of as a huge puncher before the UFC. He trained himself to be a volume striker after TUF and this contributed to his losses. In the Rockhokd fight he digs his toes in and nails Luke and finished him with hard punches. If he could alternate between the two styles in a fight he'd do better. Dan Henderson is his bogey man.

Yeah I'm well aware that Bisping can punch, I had a few BJJ classes at the Wolfslair back in my summers away from uni and his power was spoken of though I never even saw him training. My assumption was the movement and thus lighter punching was because of his own deficiencies in the chin department and the fact that he could keep up that pace for 5 rounds. I think the issue with alternating is leaving himself vulnerable.

True. How did you find the wolfslair?

Physically or as a place to train? It's in my hometown so the former was easy enough. In terms of the latter I didn't enjoy it so much. I was a white belt with about a years experience of training at Gracie Barra in Sheffield at the time. I don't know if this is how the dynamic works with BJJ and MMA but even drilling would go off script with guy trying to put up excessive resistance, counters or reversals whilst I was there. Whilst rolling powering out of position rather than using technique was the go to. But as I said, I only went to a few classes, and at a time when the head BJJ trainer was away so maybe I'm not the best judge.

Gegard Mousasi just announced to have signed with Bellator.
Carvalho for the MW Title should be top of the list.
Then move upto LHW for fights with Bader, Davis, and King Mo.
Good signing for Bellator...

Deadendgeneration wrote:

Tomasino wrote:

Deadendgeneration wrote:
Yeah I'm well aware that Bisping can punch, I had a few BJJ classes at the Wolfslair back in my summers away from uni and his power was spoken of though I never even saw him training. My assumption was the movement and thus lighter punching was because of his own deficiencies in the chin department and the fact that he could keep up that pace for 5 rounds. I think the issue with alternating is leaving himself vulnerable.

True. How did you find the wolfslair?

Physically or as a place to train? It's in my hometown so the former was easy enough. In terms of the latter I didn't enjoy it so much. I was a white belt with about a years experience of training at Gracie Barra in Sheffield at the time. I don't know if this is how the dynamic works with BJJ and MMA but even drilling would go off script with guy trying to put up excessive resistance, counters or reversals whilst I was there. Whilst rolling powering out of position rather than using technique was the go to. But as I said, I only went to a few classes, and at a time when the head BJJ trainer was away so maybe I'm not the best judge.

Cheers.

Campos- Girtz!

Conor is already talking about fighting Khabib in Russia. Seems odd to talk of that now. And Khabib is a strange pick seeing as how he has been having weight issues. Tony should get the fight. But, I'll take Khabib.

Impractical Poster wrote:Conor is already talking about fighting Khabib in Russia. Seems odd to talk of that now. And Khabib is a strange pick seeing as how he has been having weight issues. Tony should get the fight. But, I'll take Khabib.

I don't see it happening. As you Tony deserves the fight, I'd be happy for Khabib to get it though. It'll probably be Diaz if he fights in the UFC again.

Weidman/Gastelum tonight. A year ago I would have confidently picked Chris. But, now? Gastelum has been on a tear and Weidman on a slide.

Hopefully Chris can get it back together. If not, he'll always be the guy that dominated Silva twice. For that I'll always love him. Anderson is right there with Leonard for my most hated athlete. Almeida/Rivera might be sick.

Elkins/Bermudez should be nice as well. Expecting Bermudez to win, but Elkins made a fan out of me with his last performance. He's the MMA version of Rocky Balboa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaCpvd9cEZI&spfreload=5

Real nice card. It could be a coincidence, but Weidman hasn't looked the same since they upped the PED testing.

Strange, while all the waiting has lessened my anticipation for ggg/canelo, all the delays have me way more excited for Jones/cormier 2 than I was two years ago. Arguably two of the 5 best ever to do it and they genuinely hate each other. Let's go Chris!!!

Woooooi! Much better performance. I'd like to see a rematch with Romero.

That post fight interview was cringeworthy though.
'I'm the champ and everyone knows it'
'It's the first time I've been knocked down'

Typical, that confidence is needed.

Nice win for Chris. Great fight.

Good win by Weidman

I found this first round an interesting one and actually dont think it was a clear cut round. Chris held the dominant position for a large chunk of the round, but offensively quite ineffective. He got some good take downs but he often lost position or Gastelum scrambled and regained position on his feet without taking damage, Wiedman attempted the kimura but was once again nicely defended by Gastelum.... that late KD was by far the most significant moment in the round and i thought brought the round very close... i know the scoring system has come up again in recent months and i found that round interesting example on how it might have been scored under a different system....

I caught The Contender Series on Fight Pass last night.

Pretty good stuff. Dana has it set up to where selected combatants square off at the TUF gym. Based on their performance they will or will not receive a UFC contract. I believe, usually, there are 5 fights and only one winner gets the contract. But, last night there were two picked. They have two broadcasts. One of them has a couple guys I'm not familiar with doing the commentating. The other has the same video feed, but Uriah Faber and Snoop Dog are doing the commentating...lol. You know which one I watched. Snoop was funny as hell.

Shhhhhhhhdizzy elbowski!

Ironically, boxing fans are worried about Floyd/McGregor drawing uneducated MMA fans to Boxing boards; yet today on CS I read that Brock Lesnar was able to compete at the top of the UFC because of his striking prowess.

So Bisping vs GSP is back on. What a fornicating joke.