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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 23 Feb 2010, 19:54
by SaadOffTheDeck
kikibalt wrote:Yaqui Lopez for Paul . . .

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Hammer . . . At the WBHOF 2007 Banquet of Champions, Dan Hanley and myself conducted video interviews with a number of legends, including Yaqui Lopez. Dan had Yaqui in tears as he described his early days. The photo above shows Dan asking Lopez a question about his trilogy with Mathew Saad Muhammad. Our production crew is small, but professional. For this interview Lance was on sound, Greg behind the camera, I did the lighting and directed production, plus interviews myself.

Dan and I will often both interview a subject seperatly, such as Mando Ramos. I had a close relationshio with Mando & others, and would go into the behind scenes memories, while Dan will pull them right back into the ring and rekindle moments that made the great, Hall of Famers. We do a good job of "two-timing" our interviewees. However, some subjects are best left to me, and others to Dan.

Yaqui Lopez was Dan's guy. The previous year, we shoved our camera right into the faces of both Lopez and his nemisis/friend, Mathew Saad Muhammad. Dan asked them about their three fights and the two seemed to lose track over who had won which fight? They had a friendly disagreement, and watching them bicker on tape, yet still maintaining their composure proved humerous and warm. Dan did a good job on that one, in fact, on all of them.

These tapes will one day be our contribution to the boxing legends we have watched from day one.
WE own the very last taped interview that Mando Ramos ever did, and it was a good one! Same with Vince Delgado.

Awesome, he was an exciting warrior to watch growing up. I always sympathized with Yacqui and Davila as a kid. it's a shame that they both didn't get the title.

You may have confused Saad & yacqui by mentioning trilogy. They only fought twice.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 23 Feb 2010, 19:57
by kikibalt
Albert Davila did win the BW title....

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 23 Feb 2010, 20:01
by SaadOffTheDeck
kikibalt wrote:Albert Davila did win the BW title....

I know, that's why I said it's a shame that they both didn't. Perhaps it was just poor wording on my part. I certainly didn't forget his win over Bejines. The most heartbreaking of his losses was against Pintor. That looked like a foregone conclusion.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 23 Feb 2010, 20:02
by Rick Farris
Correction:
In the above post with the picture of Dan Hanley interviewing Yaqui Lopez, I mentioned that we had done the last video interview of Vince Delgado. I meant to say the late Lou Filippo. :witzend:
Vince is still alive and doing very well :OhYes:
Also, I was incorrect in referring to the Lopez-Saad trilogy. They fought twice, as saadoffthedeck pointed out. This is something that both Dan & I were aware of. My wording was incorrect above.

-Rick Farris

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 23 Feb 2010, 21:27
by dagosd2000
Frank,Rick,Randy
Do you remember a light heavy,Lonnie Bennet? I saw him in San Diego beat Jimmy Rosette pretty easily. He was going through everyone.I thought he was a pretty smooth boxer.I remember he fought John Conteh in England and lost on a cut. But after that he was on a roll again. I know he beat Yaqui Lopez,but then started to lose big time. Anything on Lonnie Bennet?

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 23 Feb 2010, 21:46
by Rick Farris
dagosd2000 wrote:Frank,Rick,Randy
Do you remember a light heavy,Lonnie Bennet? I saw him in San Diego beat Jimmy Rosette pretty easily. He was going through everyone.I thought he was a pretty smooth boxer.I remember he fought John Conteh in England and lost on a cut. But after that he was on a roll again. I know he beat Yaqui Lopez,but then started to lose big time. Anything on Lonnie Bennet?
Rog . . . I agree, Lonnie Bennett was a good fighter.
I didn't know him, and have no info on the man aside from watching him fight a few times.
Shouldn't be a hard puzzle to piece together.
I'll snoop around a bit. I bet Scar might have a lead or two?
And I saw Jimmy Rosette fight several times in LA during the late 60's. He also fought under the name of Jimmy James.


-Rick Farris

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 23 Feb 2010, 21:49
by kikibalt
Rick Farris wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:Frank,Rick,Randy
Do you remember a light heavy,Lonnie Bennet? I saw him in San Diego beat Jimmy Rosette pretty easily. He was going through everyone.I thought he was a pretty smooth boxer.I remember he fought John Conteh in England and lost on a cut. But after that he was on a roll again. I know he beat Yaqui Lopez,but then started to lose big time. Anything on Lonnie Bennet?
Rog . . . I agree, Lonnie Bennett was a good fighter.
I didn't know him, and have no info on the man aside from watching him fight a few times.
Shouldn't be a hard puzzle to piece together.
I'll snoop around a bit. I bet Scar might have a lead or two?


-Rick Farris
I seen Bennett fight a few times, but can't tell you much about him ,other he was a good fighter.
Btw he was inducted into the CBHOF in 2005.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 23 Feb 2010, 22:06
by dagosd2000
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsUazyCKTfQ

Lonnie Bennet ko'd by Jesse Burnett

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 23 Feb 2010, 22:29
by Chuck1052
On the first professional boxing show that I saw in person, Lonnie Bennett won a decision over Ray "Windmill" White in a ten-round main event at the Ventura Fairgrounds in Ventura, California during the early 1970s. In the bout, White did relatively little and was staggered at least twice, so I don't have any compliants about the decision.

I also saw Bennett fight on telecasts at least twice. In a bout which took place in Missoula, Montana, Bennett displayed a fine jab and stayed in the center of the ring, winning easily. I also remember seeing him take a beating from Jesse Burnett.

- Chuck Johnston

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 23 Feb 2010, 22:57
by THEHAMMER321
kikibalt wrote:Yaqui Lopez for Paul . . .

Image

Hammer . . . At the WBHOF 2007 Banquet of Champions, Dan Hanley and myself conducted video interviews with a number of legends, including Yaqui Lopez. Dan had Yaqui in tears as he described his early days. The photo above shows Dan asking Lopez a question about his trilogy with Mathew Saad Muhammad. Our production crew is small, but professional. For this interview Lance was on sound, Greg behind the camera, I did the lighting and directed production, plus interviews myself.

Dan and I will often both interview a subject seperatly, such as Mando Ramos. I had a close relationshio with Mando & others, and would go into the behind scenes memories, while Dan will pull them right back into the ring and rekindle moments that made the great, Hall of Famers. We do a good job of "two-timing" our interviewees. However, some subjects are best left to me, and others to Dan.

Yaqui Lopez was Dan's guy. The previous year, we shoved our camera right into the faces of both Lopez and his nemisis/friend, Mathew Saad Muhammad. Dan asked them about their three fights and the two seemed to lose track over who had won which fight? They had a friendly disagreement, and watching them bicker on tape, yet still maintaining their composure proved humerous and warm. Dan did a good job on that one, in fact, on all of them.

These tapes will one day be our contribution to the boxing legends we have watched from day one.
WE own the very last taped interview that Mando Ramos ever did, and it was a good one! Same with Vince Delgado.

Rick Farris
Thanx guys btw did you guys have a cut man for that interview :lol: have not seen Yaqui for over twenty five years since his fight with Carlos Deleon other than the grey hair looks like same old Yaqui :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 23 Feb 2010, 23:16
by SaadOffTheDeck
dagosd2000 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsUazyCKTfQ

Lonnie Bennet ko'd by Jesse Burnett

Burnett is one of my favorites, if he would have been managed properly the sky was the limit. Incredible talent.

This is a great thread.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 24 Feb 2010, 01:00
by dagosd2000
SAAD
I saw Jesse Burnett fight one of the strangest fights against one of the strangest dudes,Ray"Windmill " White. White was swinging his arms like a windmill and throwing punches from around his back. Everytime Burnett hit him White would fall and then leap up like a jack in the box at the count of nine. Finally the ref waived it off. White leaps out of the ring with his gloves on,followed by his wierd manager,Baron Von Stumme,and they run out onto the street.

Also I was looking at the Boxrec records. They have Mike Quarry bring stopped in San Dirgo by Pete McIntyre. I was there that night. I swear Mike lost to Jesse Burnett.

Rick,can you get the straight info on that? Rog

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 24 Feb 2010, 01:17
by telboy66
I saw Lonnie fight John Conteh at wembley England back in 75 conteh beat him on a cut bennett looked the part but john could be a bit handy with the head, at the time Conteh was on a roll he was probably one of the best boxer our little island has produced his world fell apart when he thought he could manage himself better than Micky Duff

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 24 Feb 2010, 01:42
by SaadOffTheDeck
dagosd2000 wrote:SAAD
I saw Jesse Burnett fight one of the strangest fights against one of the strangest dudes,Ray"Windmill " White. White was swinging his arms like a windmill and throwing punches from around his back. Everytime Burnett hit him White would fall and then leap up like a jack in the box at the count of nine. Finally the ref waived it off. White leaps out of the ring with his gloves on,followed by his wierd manager,Baron Von Stumme,and they run out onto the street.

Also I was looking at the Boxrec records. They have Mike Quarry bring stopped in San Dirgo by Pete McIntyre. I was there that night. I swear Mike lost to Jesse Burnett.

Rick,can you get the straight info on that? Rog

LOl, can't say I saw that one. I remember watching him get absolutely screwed against Leon Spinks. That was a golden era for Light heavyweights. Not like the 20's with all of those all timers but a very deep and talented crop. Certainly guys that you shouldn't be fighting on 2 or 3 days notice. I wanted to contact Jesse for a blog interview a few months ago and I just never got around to trying.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 24 Feb 2010, 01:43
by SaadOffTheDeck
telboy66 wrote:I saw Lonnie fight John Conteh at wembley England back in 75 conteh beat him on a cut bennett looked the part but john could be a bit handy with the head, at the time Conteh was on a roll he was probably one of the best boxer our little island has produced his world fell apart when he thought he could manage himself better than Micky Duff

Burnett got the shaft against Conteh too. The UK crowd booed that draw themselves.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 24 Feb 2010, 01:52
by Rick Farris
dagosd2000 wrote:SAAD
I saw Jesse Burnett fight one of the strangest fights against one of the strangest dudes,Ray"Windmill " White. White was swinging his arms like a windmill and throwing punches from around his back. Everytime Burnett hit him White would fall and then leap up like a jack in the box at the count of nine. Finally the ref waived it off. White leaps out of the ring with his gloves on,followed by his wierd manager,Baron Von Stumme,and they run out onto the street.

Also I was looking at the Boxrec records. They have Mike Quarry bring stopped in San Dirgo by Pete McIntyre. I was there that night. I swear Mike lost to Jesse Burnett.

Rick,can you get the straight info on that? Rog
Rog, to be honest, I dunno? Proably not. Mike's dead, and he'd BS me if he wasn't. Mickey Davies is dead, and he'd be the only reliable voice. You'll have to visit a connected para-psychologist who can guide you thru to the right spirits.
Make sure they ain't Irish. :lol:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 24 Feb 2010, 02:06
by Rick Farris
telboy66 wrote:I saw Lonnie fight John Conteh at wembley England back in 75 conteh beat him on a cut bennett looked the part but john could be a bit handy with the head, at the time Conteh was on a roll he was probably one of the best boxer our little island has produced his world fell apart when he thought he could manage himself better than Micky Duff
Conteh . . .

Tellboy . . . Dan Hanley and I both nominated Conteh for the WBHOF ballot this year. A strong group led by superstars such as Tyson and JC Chavez, were able to get the only four places avaiable. Next year, chances will be better. Conteh is a well spoken man and popular on the speaking circuit. He has class. The WBHOF has nominated both Terry Downes and John Stracey in recent years. They don't generate votes, and we had them dropped this year. My choice as replacement is Conteh (U.K. rep). He is a testimate to the positive possibilites that boxing is so rarely credited. He isn't walking on his heels, remembers his street address, walked the walk and can still talk. Sir Henry Copper shall also be on the ballot a second year.

-Ricardo

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 24 Feb 2010, 04:23
by bennie
dagosd2000 wrote:Frank,Rick,Randy
Do you remember a light heavy,Lonnie Bennet? I saw him in San Diego beat Jimmy Rosette pretty easily. He was going through everyone.I thought he was a pretty smooth boxer.I remember he fought John Conteh in England and lost on a cut. But after that he was on a roll again. I know he beat Yaqui Lopez,but then started to lose big time. Anything on Lonnie Bennet?
He was doing well against Conteh until Conteh nutted him and opened the cut.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 24 Feb 2010, 04:26
by bennie
kikibalt wrote:Yaqui Lopez for Paul . . .

Image

Hammer . . . At the WBHOF 2007 Banquet of Champions, Dan Hanley and myself conducted video interviews with a number of legends, including Yaqui Lopez. Dan had Yaqui in tears as he described his early days. The photo above shows Dan asking Lopez a question about his trilogy with Mathew Saad Muhammad. Our production crew is small, but professional. For this interview Lance was on sound, Greg behind the camera, I did the lighting and directed production, plus interviews myself.

Dan and I will often both interview a subject seperatly, such as Mando Ramos. I had a close relationshio with Mando & others, and would go into the behind scenes memories, while Dan will pull them right back into the ring and rekindle moments that made the great, Hall of Famers. We do a good job of "two-timing" our interviewees. However, some subjects are best left to me, and others to Dan.

Yaqui Lopez was Dan's guy. The previous year, we shoved our camera right into the faces of both Lopez and his nemisis/friend, Mathew Saad Muhammad. Dan asked them about their three fights and the two seemed to lose track over who had won which fight? They had a friendly disagreement, and watching them bicker on tape, yet still maintaining their composure proved humerous and warm. Dan did a good job on that one, in fact, on all of them.

These tapes will one day be our contribution to the boxing legends we have watched from day one.
WE own the very last taped interview that Mando Ramos ever did, and it was a good one! Same with Vince Delgado.

Rick Farris
Hey, Rick, is Saad OK? I often wonder after all his wars.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 24 Feb 2010, 13:36
by THEHAMMER321
sometimes I look at the other threads on boxers of the past and it amazes me how these guys can't debate who could beat who without calling each other names at least on this thread we might not always agree who beats who but we are here for the love of the fight game of past years life is to short to argue :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 24 Feb 2010, 13:52
by raylawpc
Rick Farris wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:SAAD
I saw Jesse Burnett fight one of the strangest fights against one of the strangest dudes,Ray"Windmill " White. White was swinging his arms like a windmill and throwing punches from around his back. Everytime Burnett hit him White would fall and then leap up like a jack in the box at the count of nine. Finally the ref waived it off. White leaps out of the ring with his gloves on,followed by his wierd manager,Baron Von Stumme,and they run out onto the street.

Also I was looking at the Boxrec records. They have Mike Quarry bring stopped in San Dirgo by Pete McIntyre. I was there that night. I swear Mike lost to Jesse Burnett.

Rick,can you get the straight info on that? Rog
Rog, to be honest, I dunno? Proably not. Mike's dead, and he'd BS me if he wasn't. Mickey Davies is dead, and he'd be the only reliable voice. You'll have to visit a connected para-psychologist who can guide you thru to the right spirits.
Make sure they ain't Irish. :lol:
You could go down to the San Diego Public Library and pull the San Diego newspapers for the fight. I checked on newspaperarchive.com but nothing came up.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 24 Feb 2010, 17:29
by THEHAMMER321
hello everyone hope you are feeling well Frank :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 24 Feb 2010, 19:37
by SaadOffTheDeck
THEHAMMER321 wrote:sometimes I look at the other threads on boxers of the past and it amazes me how these guys can't debate who could beat who without calling each other names at least on this thread we might not always agree who beats who but we are here for the love of the fight game of past years life is to short to argue :TU:
:TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 24 Feb 2010, 22:04
by kikibalt
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Triple Championship...Weigh-In

(l.to r. Sugar Ramos, Roberto Cruz, Luis Rodriguez, Emile Griffith, Battling Torres and Davey Moore)

March 21, 1963, Los Angeles

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 24 Feb 2010, 22:07
by dagosd2000
THEHAMMER321 wrote:sometimes I look at the other threads on boxers of the past and it amazes me how these guys can't debate who could beat who without calling each other names at least on this thread we might not always agree who beats who but we are here for the love of the fight game of past years life is to short to argue :TU:
Paul
That's why the regular crew stays here. I was wandering around different threads before this one opened up. All it was was who could beat who and who was the best and who had the best jab and so on.You'd state your opinion and you'd get an argument. If you defended your position,all it would lead to is a pissing contest. Eventually everyone was calling each other a fag.

I never argued back. Always let the other guy win. But it got to the point that it wasn't fun anymore until Brian posted the Indian Red story. I followed. Frank came in with some photos. Later Rick and Randy and Dan. We've become friends. Bennie's here.Paul,you're a fit. Same with Saad.Ray will drop in once in a while. Tellboy another newcomer who's welcome. Gato and John Bardelli are solid guys. Chuck Johnston is class. This is where it's at! :TU:

As Frank says,"NO EGOS HERE!"