Classic American West Coast Boxing

[THEHAMMER321]

Frank do you remember the group Malo it was a latin pop group who had big hit in about 1972 called ''Suavacito'' which still is one of my favorite songs the leader of the group was Carlos Santana's brother Jorge

Yes, I remember Malo and "Suavacito"
And here it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkDX_SZorg8

Thanx I really enjoyed that also I liked the group War with hits like Low Rider,Cisco kid,why can't we be friends

[dagosd2000]

Marilyn Monroe & "Whitey" Snyder . . .


In the early 80's, I went to work as Michael Landon's chief lighting technician on the popular NBC TV series, "Little House on the Praire."
For those of us who work in the film industry, it was the best job in town.

Mike had a lot of "old timers" working on his crew, some were highly awarded artists & technicians, legends in their own right.
One of them was Landon's make-up artist, Allan "Whitey" Snyder. Whitey was one of the legends. He had been Marilyn Monroe's personal make-up artist from the day she went under contract at 20th Century-Fox, to her last day on earth.

Whitey was also a boxing fan, and he and I became friends. Whenever we would go on location, be it to Tucson, Arizona or up in northern California, Whitey would join the crew after we wrapped for a few drinks in the bar of the hotel where we were lodged. Sitting with Whitey, he would share his life with one of the greatest screen legends in history. I sat quiet and listened.

Whitey reminisced about driving Marilyn home after a days filming at Fox. He said he had a little yellow VW, and the actress preferred riding with Whitey as opposed to a studio driver in a limo. During the years of their friendship, and professional relationship, Whitey became closer to the actress than anybody else. He would pick her up first thing in the morning, her face clean of make-up, her hair pulled back in a ponytail.

Toward the end, Whitey said Marilyn was very unhealthy, the result of drinking and sleeping pills. At times when he would help her into his car, early in the morning, she was nearly comotose. As they drove from her Brentwood home to the studio, the actress would be sleeping in the passenger seat. After passing thru the studio gates, Whitey would park in his spot next to the stage and help her step up into the make-up trailer. She would sit down in his chair and doze as he applied her make-up, after her hairstylist had done her hair.

As he told us this story, he pulled a gold cigarette lighter out of his pocket, it had been given to him by Marilyn a couple of years before her death. Engraved on the lighter was the following . . .

"Whitey, Do it while I'm still warm. -Marilyn".

Whitey told us that the actress was certain she would die before her time. She made her make-up atist promise that he would do her make-up for her funeral. The lighter was a reminder. A couple years later he drove her home from the studio. When Whitey pulled his VW up into the driveway of the actresses Brentwood home, several men appeared out of nowhere. The men were Secret Service agents, Robert Kennedy was waiting inside for her. The agents escorted the actress from the car, Whitey drove away.

A few days later, Marilyn Monroe was dead.

As promised, Whitey drove to the mortuary of Westwood Memorial Park, along with the actresses wardrobe lady. They both were so shaken by the job they would have to do, they shared a bottle of scotch as they drove to prepare Marilyn for her funeral. Shortly afterwards, Whitey and the costumer would get married. Whitey told us that when his wife first saw the actresses body, she was startled. There had been an autopsy, and her once curvacious figure was no more.

Marilyn's breasts had been removed during the medical examiner's procedure. "Marilyn would be humiliated, she has no bosom," the wardrobe lady said. To create the appearance of a bust to fill her dress, the lady and Whitey went into the waiting room of the mortuary, where they found a couple of pillows on a sofa. They tore open the pillows and removed the stuffing, which they used to fill her bra.

Well into the bottle of scotch, Whitey applied make-up to Marilyn Monroe for the last time. After finishing his commitment to the actress, he and his future wife shared the last cigarette in his pack. He lit the cigarette with the gold lighter he had just shown to us at the table. After finishing the cigarette, the two kissed Marilyn good bye, and left.

Today, if you pick-up any one of the hundreds of books you'll find on the life of Marilyn Monroe, look in the index and you'll see reference to the name, Allan "Whitey" Snyder. Another Hollywood legend I had the pleasure of crossing paths with during the past three decades.

Today, Whitey Snyder is gone. God rest his soul. And of course, God bless Marilyn Monroe.
This is a true Hollywood story.


-Rick Farris

Rick
That's a great inside story. Bobby Kennedy was there to try to bribe Monroe with 50 grand to keep her mouth shut about her and JFK and also she was pregnant with his child. The Kennedy's wanted her to get an abortion. She was defiant about keeping her mouth shut and having the abortion. The Kennedy's got a hold of Sam Giancana and he had some of his Outfit boys make the hit on her.The autopsy was part of the coverup and so was the investigation.

[kikibalt]

This is my friend, the late Allan "Whitey" Snyder applying make-up to Marilyn Monroe. The film was "The Misfits" in which Marilyn co-starred with Clark Gable. Gable died before the film was completed. Soon after, Marilyn would also be gone.

-Rick Farris

[Rick Farris]

Marilyn Monroe & "Whitey" Snyder . . .


In the early 80's, I went to work as Michael Landon's chief lighting technician on the popular NBC TV series, "Little House on the Praire."
For those of us who work in the film industry, it was the best job in town.

Mike had a lot of "old timers" working on his crew, some were highly awarded artists & technicians, legends in their own right.
One of them was Landon's make-up artist, Allan "Whitey" Snyder. Whitey was one of the legends. He had been Marilyn Monroe's personal make-up artist from the day she went under contract at 20th Century-Fox, to her last day on earth.

Whitey was also a boxing fan, and he and I became friends. Whenever we would go on location, be it to Tucson, Arizona or up in northern California, Whitey would join the crew after we wrapped for a few drinks in the bar of the hotel where we were lodged. Sitting with Whitey, he would share his life with one of the greatest screen legends in history. I sat quiet and listened.

Whitey reminisced about driving Marilyn home after a days filming at Fox. He said he had a little yellow VW, and the actress preferred riding with Whitey as opposed to a studio driver in a limo. During the years of their friendship, and professional relationship, Whitey became closer to the actress than anybody else. He would pick her up first thing in the morning, her face clean of make-up, her hair pulled back in a ponytail.

Toward the end, Whitey said Marilyn was very unhealthy, the result of drinking and sleeping pills. At times when he would help her into his car, early in the morning, she was nearly comotose. As they drove from her Brentwood home to the studio, the actress would be sleeping in the passenger seat. After passing thru the studio gates, Whitey would park in his spot next to the stage and help her step up into the make-up trailer. She would sit down in his chair and doze as he applied her make-up, after her hairstylist had done her hair.

As he told us this story, he pulled a gold cigarette lighter out of his pocket, it had been given to him by Marilyn a couple of years before her death. Engraved on the lighter was the following . . .

"Whitey, Do it while I'm still warm. -Marilyn".

Whitey told us that the actress was certain she would die before her time. She made her make-up atist promise that he would do her make-up for her funeral. The lighter was a reminder. A couple years later he drove her home from the studio. When Whitey pulled his VW up into the driveway of the actresses Brentwood home, several men appeared out of nowhere. The men were Secret Service agents, Robert Kennedy was waiting inside for her. The agents escorted the actress from the car, Whitey drove away.

A few days later, Marilyn Monroe was dead.

As promised, Whitey drove to the mortuary of Westwood Memorial Park, along with the actresses wardrobe lady. They both were so shaken by the job they would have to do, they shared a bottle of scotch as they drove to prepare Marilyn for her funeral. Shortly afterwards, Whitey and the costumer would get married. Whitey told us that when his wife first saw the actresses body, she was startled. There had been an autopsy, and her once curvacious figure was no more.

Marilyn's breasts had been removed during the medical examiner's procedure. "Marilyn would be humiliated, she has no bosom," the wardrobe lady said. To create the appearance of a bust to fill her dress, the lady and Whitey went into the waiting room of the mortuary, where they found a couple of pillows on a sofa. They tore open the pillows and removed the stuffing, which they used to fill her bra.

Well into the bottle of scotch, Whitey applied make-up to Marilyn Monroe for the last time. After finishing his commitment to the actress, he and his future wife shared the last cigarette in his pack. He lit the cigarette with the gold lighter he had just shown to us at the table. After finishing the cigarette, the two kissed Marilyn good bye, and left.

Today, if you pick-up any one of the hundreds of books you'll find on the life of Marilyn Monroe, look in the index and you'll see reference to the name, Allan "Whitey" Snyder. Another Hollywood legend I had the pleasure of crossing paths with during the past three decades.

Today, Whitey Snyder is gone. God rest his soul. And of course, God bless Marilyn Monroe.
This is a true Hollywood story.


-Rick Farris

Rick
That's a great inside story. Bobby Kennedy was there to try to bribe Monroe with 50 grand to keep her mouth shut about her and JFK and also she was pregnant with his child. The Kennedy's wanted her to get an abortion. She was defiant about keeping her mouth shut and having the abortion. The Kennedy's got a hold of Sam Giancana and he had some of his Outfit boys make the hit on her.The autopsy was part of the coverup and so was the investigation.

Thanks, Rog. This type of history has always fascinated me. I appreciate when you share these things, as I know they are correct. You have a lot of inside knowledge and it always seems to provide the missing pieces to a public puzzle.

[THEHAMMER321]

Frank do you you when ''Low riders'' started and were the Chicano's or blacks the first to drive them,when I was a kid in the 1970s only Chicanos or black guys drove them I think they started in Los Angeles in the 1940s but maybe you would know the history thanks for any info :??

[dagosd2000]

Rick
When we think about how organized crime and the teamsters helped JFK get elected and to do a lot of dirty work for the Kennedy's,it's not hard to understand how the Mob and Jimmy Hoffa felt about John and Bobby Kennedy when,in the end,he went after them.Add on JFK wanting to take away the depletiation allowance from the oil guys(Hunt and Murchison),pull troops out of Vietnam(National Security Memo 262)that would have affected contracts for Halliburton and Brown/Root),JFK's scrutiny of Israel's nuclear reactors,JFK's plan of dismissing J.Edgar Hoover,prosecuting LBJ and his cronies,the firing of Allen Dulles and Charles Cabell from the CIA,issuing U.S. bank notes without interest in comparision to the Fed's money,and his failure to backup the Bay Of Pigs invasion:JFK wasn't going to be alive to run for re election in '64.

[dagosd2000]

I forgot to throw in "detante" with the Russians and overtures to the Civil Rights movement.

[dagosd2000]

Frank do you remember the group Malo it was a latin pop group who had big hit in about 1972 called ''Suavacito'' which still is one of my favorite songs the leader of the group was Carlos Santana's brother Jorge

Yes, I remember Malo and "Suavacito"
And here it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkDX_SZorg8

Thanx I really enjoyed that also I liked the group War with hits like Low Rider,Cisco kid,why can't we be friends

Paul
I've mentioned this before to the others,but I remember when Santana was playing at the Convoy Club in TJ. One of the more frequented cantinas on Revolution St. But I don't think the customers went there to listen to the music especially.

[kikibalt]

Frank do you you when ''Low riders'' started and were the Chicano's or blacks the first to drive them,when I was a kid in the 1970s only Chicanos or black guys drove them I think they started in Los Angeles in the 1940s but maybe you would know the history thanks for any info :??

Paul, as far back as I can remember, that been the early '40's, the guys have been lowing their cars, during WWII my uncles, who by the way fought in that big war, bought a 1937 Chevy and they lower the back by filling bags full of sand and putting the bags in the trunk, talk of improvising, by the time I bought my first car in the early '50s Western Auto was selling lowing blocks for the back, we would put the lowing blocks on the back and than have the front springs heated to lower the front end, so yes, lowing cars goes way back before the '70s.

[dagosd2000]

Frank,Paul
Here in San Diego it was the Mexican kids who liked to chop their cars and lower them.Also a fancy paint job maybe with some sort of mural or the Virgin on it. National City was a center in San Diego for lowriders. At night the kids would cruise Highland Avenue.

The Portugese went in for the Buick Riviera,but they didn't alter the body except for tinting the windows.

The white kids were into modifying what they had and taking it to the various drag strips.

All these groups made sure they had a good sound system.

Those were fun days of hanging out in some guy's garage working under the hood ,drinking beers,and listening to oldies(that weren't oldies then)

[dagosd2000]

Just caught this on the news. Jaime Escalante is battling cancer. His family has run out of money.This is the teacher who got a record number of mostly Mexican kids to pass the AP Placement Test for Calculus at Garfield High. If you saw the movie "Stand And Deliver"you saw what this man accomplished year after year with these kids. It was unprecedented.

Edward James Olmos who played Escalante in the movie is running a drive to collect 25 grand to cover Jaime's medical bills.

Donations can be sent to:Friends of Jaime,236 W. Mountain St.Suite 105,Pasadena,Ca.91103

[kikibalt]

Margarito Still Without License, Blames De La Hoya!

February 27, 2010 by Felipe Leon

Despite complying with his one year ban by the California State Athletic Commission for using illegal hand wraps in his bout last year with “Sugar” Shane Mosley, Tijuana’s Antonio Margarito continues with out a license to resume his boxing career.

Margarito blames Oscar De La Hoya.

Photo by Miguel Angel Cebreros
In an interview granted to ESPN Radio’s “A Los Golpes” and Notifight.com, the “Tijuana Tornado” accused De La Hoya of “sticking his nose” and stated:

“Many people have asked me why I think he is saying that I shouldn’t be given my license, how does it affect him?” Margarito asks. “If I was suspended in California, why is he sending letters to others states asking them not to grant me a license? Besides, I complied with the year that they asked for. Now I don’t know what they want. Now it is their turn to comply. This is my job and I need to climb into the ring and not be inactive.”

Margarito announced that his plan is to fight on May 8th in Aguascalientes, MX, against the same opponent which he was going to face on March 13th in Dallas, TX, Carson Jones.

Margarito also has his sights set on Manny Pacquiao.

“Bob Arum is trying to get me a license in Nevada since everybody is asking me to face Pacquiao. I want to face him before the end of the year,” Margarito added. “It might be in the welterweight division, many fans are asking for it since they call him the ‘Mexecutioner’. What other Mexican fighter can face him at welter?”

Margarito also took advantage of the forum to make his case for a license.

“I abided by the suspension that California set for me of one year, we didn’t fight in Tijuana, we didn’t fight in Mexico, we didn’t fight anywhere,” Margarito stated. “I think that I have done my part with the punishment they handed me. If they don’t want to give me my license by now, they are just not going to give it to me. I don’t know what they are waiting for, I heard rumors that they wanted me to go and ask for forgiveness. They should have done that before, I was slated for March 13th, if that was the case, I would have gone and asked for forgiveness and not lost my chance to fight on that card.”

Finally, Margarito used the airwaves to thank the fans for their unconditional support.

[Rick Farris]

Rick
When we think about how organized crime and the teamsters helped JFK get elected and to do a lot of dirty work for the Kennedy's,it's not hard to understand how the Mob and Jimmy Hoffa felt about John and Bobby Kennedy when,in the end,he went after them.Add on JFK wanting to take away the depletiation allowance from the oil guys(Hunt and Murchison),pull troops out of Vietnam(National Security Memo 262)that would have affected contracts for Halliburton and Brown/Root),JFK's scrutiny of Israel's nuclear reactors,JFK's plan of dismissing J.Edgar Hoover,prosecuting LBJ and his cronies,the firing of Allen Dulles and Charles Cabell from the CIA,issuing U.S. bank notes without interest in comparision to the Fed's money,and his failure to backup the Bay Of Pigs invasion:JFK wasn't going to be alive to run for re election in '64.

Roger . . .
Such compelling information. I should have opened my eyes and paid more attention in school. We didn't have terms such as ADD when I was a kid, but when I first heard of it I realized, this was my problem. Today, here on a boxing site, I'm finally learning from a school teacher, one I trust beyond question. John Bardelli (also a former teacher) also contributes to my education, things I ignored during the years all I thought about was boxing. Of course, much of what I learn from you are things not known or acknowledged back in the day when not everybody was aware of such things. Thank you, Rog.

[Rick Farris]

Margarito Still Without License, Blames De La Hoya!

February 27, 2010 by Felipe Leon

Despite complying with his one year ban by the California State Athletic Commission for using illegal hand wraps in his bout last year with “Sugar” Shane Mosley, Tijuana’s Antonio Margarito continues with out a license to resume his boxing career.

Margarito blames Oscar De La Hoya.

Photo by Miguel Angel Cebreros
In an interview granted to ESPN Radio’s “A Los Golpes” and Notifight.com, the “Tijuana Tornado” accused De La Hoya of “sticking his nose” and stated:

“Many people have asked me why I think he is saying that I shouldn’t be given my license, how does it affect him?” Margarito asks. “If I was suspended in California, why is he sending letters to others states asking them not to grant me a license? Besides, I complied with the year that they asked for. Now I don’t know what they want. Now it is their turn to comply. This is my job and I need to climb into the ring and not be inactive.”

Margarito announced that his plan is to fight on May 8th in Aguascalientes, MX, against the same opponent which he was going to face on March 13th in Dallas, TX, Carson Jones.

Margarito also has his sights set on Manny Pacquiao.

“Bob Arum is trying to get me a license in Nevada since everybody is asking me to face Pacquiao. I want to face him before the end of the year,” Margarito added. “It might be in the welterweight division, many fans are asking for it since they call him the ‘Mexecutioner’. What other Mexican fighter can face him at welter?”

Margarito also took advantage of the forum to make his case for a license.

“I abided by the suspension that California set for me of one year, we didn’t fight in Tijuana, we didn’t fight in Mexico, we didn’t fight anywhere,” Margarito stated. “I think that I have done my part with the punishment they handed me. If they don’t want to give me my license by now, they are just not going to give it to me. I don’t know what they are waiting for, I heard rumors that they wanted me to go and ask for forgiveness. They should have done that before, I was slated for March 13th, if that was the case, I would have gone and asked for forgiveness and not lost my chance to fight on that card.”

Finally, Margarito used the airwaves to thank the fans for their unconditional support.

The blame for this act goes beyond Margarito. We know that boxers generally just sit quiet and do as they are told. I have been a strong critic of Margarito and his camp. Blaming DLH? I think one must step back and take a look at themselves in the mirror. Regardless of who was at fault, a fighter could have lost his life that night. That is beyond a second chance situation in my mind. Oscar? DLH didn't load the gloves. Imagine welterweight Tony Baltazar had been the challenger for MArgarito's title, and had stepped into the ring with him. I don't consider Antonio Margarito as good as Tony (and forget the fact that I am prejudiced when it comes to the Baltazar's talent). What if Tony had traded blows with Antonio, as he would have. Unless Tony KOed him early with that hook of his, he would have still taken punches. When it comes to Margarito I say, "Feed him beans!"

[dagosd2000]

Rick
Thanks for the good words. Most kids think history class is boring. Not the way I teach it. BTW.John Bardelli knows what's going on too.

[dagosd2000]

Frank
I don't know what that thing is that you send me updates on the news,but I appreciate your opinions. Yeah,this Bunning is a real a--hole. I'd like to put him out of a job,have him lose his house,his medical benefits,and try to feed a family. That no good SOB has really hurt a lot of people with that veto. He thinks he's a tough guy. Well let me put it to you this way. I'm not a big fan of athletes like T.O.,Ray Lewis,and that basketball player on the Lakers who has that short fuse,but I'd like to put that Bunning in a room with one of those guys and have him get his lights punched out. Same with Limbaugh,Dobbs,O'Reilly,Hannity,and Glenn Beck. They can't go on the air and say they hate people of color so they work their red neck friends with the God and taxes talk.

[kikibalt]

Frank
I don't know what that thing is that you send me updates on the news,but I appreciate your opinions. Yeah,this Bunning is a real a--hole. I'd like to put him out of a job,have him lose his house,his medical benefits,and try to feed a family. That no good SOB has really hurt a lot of people with that veto. He thinks he's a tough guy. Well let me put it to you this way. I'm not a big fan of athletes like T.O.,Ray Lewis,and that basketball player on the Lakers who has that short fuse,but I'd like to put that Bunning in a room with one of those guys and have him get his lights punched out. Same with Limbaugh,Dobbs,O'Reilly,Hannity,and Glenn Beck. They can't go on the air and say they hate people of color so they work their red neck friends with the God and taxes talk.

Roger, I didn't send you anything on that ass-hole Bunning.

[dagosd2000]

Frank
I don't know what that thing is that you send me updates on the news,but I appreciate your opinions. Yeah,this Bunning is a real a--hole. I'd like to put him out of a job,have him lose his house,his medical benefits,and try to feed a family. That no good SOB has really hurt a lot of people with that veto. He thinks he's a tough guy. Well let me put it to you this way. I'm not a big fan of athletes like T.O.,Ray Lewis,and that basketball player on the Lakers who has that short fuse,but I'd like to put that Bunning in a room with one of those guys and have him get his lights punched out. Same with Limbaugh,Dobbs,O'Reilly,Hannity,and Glenn Beck. They can't go on the air and say they hate people of color so they work their red neck friends with the God and taxes talk.

Roger, I didn't send you anything on that ass-hole Bunning.

Frank
I've got your picture(the one standing on the pier)and the caption says" Frank B commented on Kentucky's Bunning again blocking jobless benefits." Said it was posted 9 hours ago.

Then there's another one with the same picture saying"Frank B buzzed up:"conservative infighting heats up as focus shifts to policy debates." dated Feb.24.

I wonder what's up with that?

[kikibalt]

Frank
I don't know what that thing is that you send me updates on the news,but I appreciate your opinions. Yeah,this Bunning is a real a--hole. I'd like to put him out of a job,have him lose his house,his medical benefits,and try to feed a family. That no good SOB has really hurt a lot of people with that veto. He thinks he's a tough guy. Well let me put it to you this way. I'm not a big fan of athletes like T.O.,Ray Lewis,and that basketball player on the Lakers who has that short fuse,but I'd like to put that Bunning in a room with one of those guys and have him get his lights punched out. Same with Limbaugh,Dobbs,O'Reilly,Hannity,and Glenn Beck. They can't go on the air and say they hate people of color so they work their red neck friends with the God and taxes talk.

Roger, I didn't send you anything on that ass-hole Bunning.

Frank
I've got your picture(the one standing on the pier)and the caption says" Frank B commented on Kentucky's Bunning again blocking jobless benefits." Said it was posted 9 hours ago.

Then there's another one with the same picture saying"Frank B buzzed up:"conservative infighting heats up as focus shifts to policy debates." dated Feb.24.

I wonder what's up with that?

Okay, but I didnt send it to you, how you got it I don't know, I posted a comment on yahoo news, and some how they have me as Frank B.

[THEHAMMER321]

Margarito Still Without License, Blames De La Hoya!

February 27, 2010 by Felipe Leon

Despite complying with his one year ban by the California State Athletic Commission for using illegal hand wraps in his bout last year with “Sugar” Shane Mosley, Tijuana’s Antonio Margarito continues with out a license to resume his boxing career.

Margarito blames Oscar De La Hoya.

Photo by Miguel Angel Cebreros
In an interview granted to ESPN Radio’s “A Los Golpes” and Notifight.com, the “Tijuana Tornado” accused De La Hoya of “sticking his nose” and stated:

“Many people have asked me why I think he is saying that I shouldn’t be given my license, how does it affect him?” Margarito asks. “If I was suspended in California, why is he sending letters to others states asking them not to grant me a license? Besides, I complied with the year that they asked for. Now I don’t know what they want. Now it is their turn to comply. This is my job and I need to climb into the ring and not be inactive.”

Margarito announced that his plan is to fight on May 8th in Aguascalientes, MX, against the same opponent which he was going to face on March 13th in Dallas, TX, Carson Jones.

Margarito also has his sights set on Manny Pacquiao.

“Bob Arum is trying to get me a license in Nevada since everybody is asking me to face Pacquiao. I want to face him before the end of the year,” Margarito added. “It might be in the welterweight division, many fans are asking for it since they call him the ‘Mexecutioner’. What other Mexican fighter can face him at welter?”

Margarito also took advantage of the forum to make his case for a license.

“I abided by the suspension that California set for me of one year, we didn’t fight in Tijuana, we didn’t fight in Mexico, we didn’t fight anywhere,” Margarito stated. “I think that I have done my part with the punishment they handed me. If they don’t want to give me my license by now, they are just not going to give it to me. I don’t know what they are waiting for, I heard rumors that they wanted me to go and ask for forgiveness. They should have done that before, I was slated for March 13th, if that was the case, I would have gone and asked for forgiveness and not lost my chance to fight on that card.”

Finally, Margarito used the airwaves to thank the fans for their unconditional support.

The blame for this act goes beyond Margarito. We know that boxers generally just sit quiet and do as they are told. I have been a strong critic of Margarito and his camp. Blaming DLH? I think one must step back and take a look at themselves in the mirror. Regardless of who was at fault, a fighter could have lost his life that night. That is beyond a second chance situation in my mind. Oscar? DLH didn't load the gloves. Imagine welterweight Tony Baltazar had been the challenger for MArgarito's title, and had stepped into the ring with him. I don't consider Antonio Margarito as good as Tony (and forget the fact that I am prejudiced when it comes to the Baltazar's talent). What if Tony had traded blows with Antonio, as he would have. Unless Tony KOed him early with that hook of his, he would have still taken punches. When it comes to Margarito I say, "Feed him beans!"

Rick I will never forget 27 years ago I went to a closed circuit viewing of Roberto Duran vs Davey Moore and on the undercard was unbeaten Billy Collins vs Luis Resto and I don't think I have to tell anyone on here what happened,so with that I have no compassion for Antonio Margarito he could have killed an opponent but lucky for everyone he got caught if I never hear his name again that would be just fine.

[dagosd2000]

Roger, I didn't send you anything on that ass-hole Bunning.

Frank
I've got your picture(the one standing on the pier)and the caption says" Frank B commented on Kentucky's Bunning again blocking jobless benefits." Said it was posted 9 hours ago.

Then there's another one with the same picture saying"Frank B buzzed up:"conservative infighting heats up as focus shifts to policy debates." dated Feb.24.

I wonder what's up with that?

Okay, but I didnt send it to you, how you got it I don't know, I posted a comment on yahoo news, and some how they have me as Frank B.

Frank
That's what's happening. It's showing up on Yahoo news.

[dagosd2000]

Frank
That Bunning must have read our posts about him. He just switched his vote in favor of extending benefits. He's not an a--hole anymore,just a jerk off.

[kikibalt]

Frank
I've got your picture(the one standing on the pier)and the caption says" Frank B commented on Kentucky's Bunning again blocking jobless benefits." Said it was posted 9 hours ago.

Then there's another one with the same picture saying"Frank B buzzed up:"conservative infighting heats up as focus shifts to policy debates." dated Feb.24.

I wonder what's up with that?

Okay, but I didnt send it to you, how you got it I don't know, I posted a comment on yahoo news, and some how they have me as Frank B.

Frank
That's what's happening. It's showing up on Yahoo news.

What dick's....LOL!

[Rick Farris]

Our thread . . .

We hit 1000 pages on January 30th, which just happened to be my 58th birthday. We've averaged a page a day since then. We hit a thousand just a few days before this forum reached it's 2nd anniversary. We just keep rolling along like a well oiled machine. Great to have our new friend Paul (Hammer) on board, definitly one of us.

I'm not a statistition, just a guy who is happy to be here. Mas manana! Buenos noches amigos.

[bennie]

Zero hour is approaching, the ring walk, the first bell, the power, the future; David Haye’s first defence of his WBA heavyweight title against former two-time holder John Ruiz is ‘go’ for Manchester on April 3 and make or break for the quick, dangerous, charismatic Londoner who won the title just a few months ago in Germany with a disappointingly nit-picking decision over a freakish Russian and needs to show what he can really do as heavyweight champion of the world. Oh, it’s good to see a world heavyweight title fight back in the UK, a world heavyweight champion from the UK!
Ominously, Haye faces a man with a long and horribly established reputation for clinching and clinching decisions, and this is a real worry for the 29-year-old Haye. Ruiz is the mandatory challenger to Haye, not a man anyone chooses to fight, but Haye has no option. Even the Klitschko brothers, Vitali and Wladimir, who between them have ‘cleaned up’ the dire heavyweight scene prior to Haye’s lightning transition from outstanding cruiserweight to their outstanding rival for the prize of the world’s best heavyweight, conspicuously overlook the spoiling, 38-year-old Ruiz, which says it all. They know how bad Ruiz could make them look.
It also says this: if Haye does a number on the Puerto Rican, he enjoys bragging rights over his two rivals and can expect one or both of the Ukrainians to face him sooner rather than later; if Haye wins but looks poor, the Klitschkos will continue picking and choosing fat surly Americans for another couple of meaningless years before taking on Haye, whom they dislike; if Haye loses, he loses his title and an awful lot of face. The champion has spent much of his brief tenure at heavyweight outrageously and quite rightly ‘slagging’ those lumbering, tiresome, robotic Klitschkos.
Haye is sharp, in and out of the ring, small for a modern heavyweight at 6ft 3ins but with long arms and refreshing fluidity as he showed when he was able to pick off the giant 7ft, 23st Nikolai Valuev in November for 12 rounds for the WBA belt. Robots are no longer the order of the day. Haye moved well and showed a good jab throughout. He staggered the Frankenstein-like Valuev in the last round with a big left hook, although more ‘devil’ in his work from the start would have been nice. Haye says he hurt his right hand and fingers on the hand were strapped together when he returned to England, puffy looking round the face. Valuev held two wins over Ruiz but Haye went into the Lion’s Den and did what he had to do.
Comparitively, this gives Haye an edge next month, an obvious edge. He also holds advantages in speed and power over Ruiz. Combine the latter two and this is what makes up Britain’s David Haye: a big-hitter made all the more big-hitting by the rapidity of his shots. Ruiz has seen it all before, of course, a pro since 1992 and 6-0 alone in Britain, after an early career spell here. He won his two WBA titles through what is known in boxing as “astute political manoeuvring” or just Don King, who essentially gave up on his man when Ruiz lost the titles to little Roy Jones and big Valuev, both on points. For all his mauling and leaning on, Ruiz does obviously throw a few shots and possesses a pretty chin, much like Frans Botha, the last challenger to make his way here for a world heavyweight title crack when he took on Lennox Lewis in London in the summer of 2000. Lewis took him apart, two rounds, almost knocking Botha clean out of the ring in what now amounts to a precedent.
Haye, on home turf, also needs to blow Ruiz away.