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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 18 Mar 2010, 04:19
by Rick Farris
This years WBHOF Banquet . . .
Will be held at Planet Hollywood in Las Vegas. October.
-Rick Farris
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 18 Mar 2010, 11:26
by Randyman
Where is our pal, Roger??????????
Has anyone heard from him?
Randy :??
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 18 Mar 2010, 12:03
by THEHAMMER321
Rick Farris wrote:raylawpc wrote:
Sailor Tom Sharkey wishes a Happy St. Patrick's Day to all his fellow Californians on the Classic American West Coast Boxing
thread!!
Frank O'Baltazar
Randy O'de la O
Roger O'Espy
Rick O'Farris
. . . today, everybody is IRISH
Thank you Mr. O'Ray. By the way, to Scar, Pops & Pug . . . as I tilt me glass of Jameson's on this fine day, I wish all of you be in Heaven at least a half hour before the devil knows you're dead!
Rick "Half a Mick" Farris
What about Paul O'Zappulla I felt slighted Rick

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 18 Mar 2010, 12:36
by THEHAMMER321
Was looking for Alex Ramos yesterday online and Rocky Lockridge showed up on the page also so I got to reading a story about him I didn't know he was in such bad shape I remember him well from his fighting days so many of his fights were on sat or sun afternoon back when the networks NBC,ABC,CBS had fights and unlike so many fighters he wasn't arrogant or cocky and I will never forget his fight with Roger Mayweather as Roger enters the ring with dark sunglasses goes over to Lockridge corner stares him down and Lou Duva chases Roger away like the punk that he is and as far as the fight Lockridge knocks Mayweather senseless in the first round if ever a fighter got what was coming to him it was Mayweather but getting back to Lockridge the guy is homeless on the streets of Camden New Jersey a crack addict he had a stoke a few years ago and walks with a cane,I guess there is no way of telling which guys are gonna go down the wrong path because Rocky wasn't a punk or a braggart just a workman like fighter in and out of the ring just sad to see people down and out like that.
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 18 Mar 2010, 13:09
by raylawpc
Rick Farris wrote:raylawpc wrote:
Sailor Tom Sharkey wishes a Happy St. Patrick's Day to all his fellow Californians on the Classic American West Coast Boxing
thread!!
Frank O'Baltazar
Randy O'de la O
Roger O'Espy
Rick O'Farris
. . . today, everybody is IRISH
Thank you Mr. O'Ray. By the way, to Scar, Pops & Pug . . . as I tilt me glass of Jameson's on this fine day, I wish all of you be in Heaven at least a half hour before the devil knows you're dead!
Rick "Half a Mick" Farris
Ooops I didn't include the Hanleys because I forgot they lived in California . . . Sharkey and I apologize, and wish a top 'o the mornin' to the O'Hanley's.
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 18 Mar 2010, 13:11
by kikibalt
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 18 Mar 2010, 13:34
by Rick Farris
THEHAMMER321 wrote:Rick Farris wrote:raylawpc wrote:
Sailor Tom Sharkey wishes a Happy St. Patrick's Day to all his fellow Californians on the Classic American West Coast Boxing
thread!!
Frank O'Baltazar
Randy O'de la O
Roger O'Espy
Rick O'Farris
. . . today, everybody is IRISH
Thank you Mr. O'Ray. By the way, to Scar, Pops & Pug . . . as I tilt me glass of Jameson's on this fine day, I wish all of you be in Heaven at least a half hour before the devil knows you're dead!
Rick "Half a Mick" Farris
What about Paul O'Zappulla I felt slighted Rick

"Who the hell is Cristina?" . . .
Paulino . . .
![[icon_notworthy.gif] :bow:](./images/smilies/icon_notworthy.gif)
No disrespect intended. Lots of names I didn't mention. After a couple shots, I couldn't remember my own name.
That was OK, but when I referred to my wife Monica as "Cristina" (
![[icon_witsend.gif] :witzend:](./images/smilies/icon_witsend.gif)
), I suddenly had other concerns.
As I attempt to become a "kept man" like my idol Frank, I don't need to hear questions such as, "Who the hell is Cristina?"
Never feel slighted here amigo, in my book you are as solid as they come!
-Rick
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 18 Mar 2010, 13:46
by Rick Farris
raylawpc wrote:Rick Farris wrote:raylawpc wrote:
Sailor Tom Sharkey wishes a Happy St. Patrick's Day to all his fellow Californians on the Classic American West Coast Boxing
thread!!
Frank O'Baltazar
Randy O'de la O
Roger O'Espy
Rick O'Farris
. . . today, everybody is IRISH
Thank you Mr. O'Ray. By the way, to Scar, Pops & Pug . . . as I tilt me glass of Jameson's on this fine day, I wish all of you be in Heaven at least a half hour before the devil knows you're dead!
Rick "Half a Mick" Farris
Ooops I didn't include the Hanleys because I forgot they lived in California . . . Sharkey and I apologize, and wish a top 'o the mornin' to the O'Hanley's.
Tom . . . The Hanley's live in Chicago, but Dan & Pops are here every year for the WBHOF event.
I talk more with Dan each week than I do with any of my Cal amigos, so I feel he's a neighbor.
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 18 Mar 2010, 14:22
by raylawpc
Rick Farris wrote:raylawpc wrote:Rick Farris wrote:
Thank you Mr. O'Ray. By the way, to Scar, Pops & Pug . . . as I tilt me glass of Jameson's on this fine day, I wish all of you be in Heaven at least a half hour before the devil knows you're dead!
Rick "Half a Mick" Farris
Ooops I didn't include the Hanleys because I forgot they lived in California . . . Sharkey and I apologize, and wish a top 'o the mornin' to the O'Hanley's.
Tom . . . The Hanley's live in Chicago, but Dan & Pops are here every year for the WBHOF event.
I talk more with Dan each week than I do with any of my Cal amigos, so I feel he's a neighbor.
Who is it up in the Bay area then?
![[icon_witsend.gif] :witzend:](./images/smilies/icon_witsend.gif)
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 18 Mar 2010, 17:03
by Rick Farris
raylawpc wrote:Rick Farris wrote:raylawpc wrote:
Ooops I didn't include the Hanleys because I forgot they lived in California . . . Sharkey and I apologize, and wish a top 'o the mornin' to the O'Hanley's.
Tom . . . The Hanley's live in Chicago, but Dan & Pops are here every year for the WBHOF event.
I talk more with Dan each week than I do with any of my Cal amigos, so I feel he's a neighbor.
Who is it up in the Bay area then?
![[icon_witsend.gif] :witzend:](./images/smilies/icon_witsend.gif)
That's Bruce, who hasn't been around for awhile.
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 19 Mar 2010, 00:28
by Rick Farris
Marketing Pac Man . . .
Boxrec has a story relating to Nike's newest product, "The Pac Man" shoe.
The shoes retails for $110. but they are selling out quick. On the internet, you can find them for over $200.
He is the grestest fighter I've seen since Duran, maybe better.
Hope he doesn't give all that money away. I also hope he just calls it quits and retains his health.
But you know boxers? He's better than anything we've seen in ages, hope he's smarter too.
-Rick Farris
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 19 Mar 2010, 00:34
by Rick Farris
Boxer Manny Pacquiao a rising star in marketing
Anthony Quemuel is such a big Manny Pacquiao fan that he dropped by a Pleasanton sporting goods store to buy the second pair of the boxer's special Nike "Pac Man" shoes that he's purchased this week.
"I need to have at least two pair because they're exclusive," said Quemuel, 29, of Union City. "When they came out, they sold out and you couldn't find them anywhere. The retail value was $110. They were going on the Internet for $225."
It's no surprise that the Philippine superstar with lightning-fast punches has such a strong following in the Bay Area, home to more than 356,000 Filipino Americans like Quemuel. But Pacquiao is becoming a household name, one of the rare sports stars with crossover appeal to even non-sports fans.
And although experts say he's not quite there, his appeal may translate into more marketing power for the man whom GQ magazine, in its April edition, calls a cross between Argentine revolutionary Che Guevara, Czech playwright Vaclav Havel, boxing legend Muhammad Ali, actor Sylvester Stallone, NFL quarterback Michael Vick and "American Idol" singer Clay Aiken.
"I definitely believe he's going to be a crossover star," said Marcus Troy, a Montreal blogger who writes about culture, lifestyle and fashion trends. "We haven't seen someone with his kind of charisma and skill in a long time."
Pacquiao, 31, has won world boxing titles in seven weight divisions and is ranked as the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world.
Pacquiao's welterweight bout Saturday night against Joshua Clottey drew nearly 50,994 people to Cowboys Stadium in Arlington, Texas, the biggest U.S. boxing crowd in 17 years and third-largest in U.S. boxing history, even more remarkable because the sport's popularity has been waning.
But his popularity is transcending sports. Last year, Time magazine named him one of the world's 100 most influential people.
Earlier this month, Pacquiao received hearty cheers on ABC-TV's "Jimmy Kimmel Live" even after crooning a less-than-stellar rendition of George Benson's "Nothing's Gonna Change My Love for You."
Nike gear
Featured displays of his line of Nike T-shirts, hoodies, shorts and shoes drew pre-fight crowds Saturday at stores like Niketown in downtown San Francisco and Champs Sports in Pleasanton's Stoneridge Shopping Center.
"What Nike is doing for him is giving him the spotlight, the platform," said Troy, who said the Nike line is also popular in places like Montreal and Toronto. "What I'm seeing with this Manny Pacquiao thing is that regular people who are fans of the man are buying his product. They like what he stands for."
Bob Dorfman, a sports marketing expert with San Francisco's Baker Street Advertising, said boxing hasn't seen a performer who has "captured the imagination of the casual fan in a long time."
"He's got more going for him than boxing," Dorfman said. "He appeals to both sexes. He's kind of a Renaissance man."
And at a time when the images of sports idols like Tiger Woods have been sullied by off-field transgressions, Pacquiao's image as a common-man-turned-champion remains clean.
"He's got a wonderful window of opportunity," said Paul Swangard, managing director of the Warsaw Sports Marketing Center at the University of Oregon. But, he said, "the jury is out on whether he reaches that sort of iconic status."
Boxing is still not a top-tier sport in terms of popularity, and bouts are not frequent enough to hold the public's attention, he said. Olympic athletes, for whom the spotlight shines only once every four years, have a similar problem, unless they get creative and end up on "Dancing With the Stars" like gold medal skaters Apolo Anton Ohno or Evan Lysacek.
"Our world is built on 'What have you done for me lately?' " he said.
Mayweather bout
Dorfman said Pacquiao still needs a decisive win over six-time champion Floyd Mayweather Jr. A much-anticipated Pacquiao-Mayweather showdown is being held up by disputes over drug testing.
"That might put him over the hump in terms of making him a household name and face," Dorfman said.
Pacquiao's critics say his aspirations outside of the ring may also hold him back. Even with two platinum albums in the Philippines, his singing career suffered a setback this week when promoters canceled a "Manny Pacquiao Live in Hawaii Concert Celebration" scheduled for Sunday because of poor advance ticket sales.
And Pacquiao is again running in May for a seat in the Philippine Congress, even though his popularity hasn't translated to the polls - he lost a run for Congress in 2007.
Other major marketers may also be gun-shy about jumping on an athlete's coattails.
"Right now, advertisers are just so nervous about signing anybody to a big seven-figure deal again," Dorfman said. "After Tiger Woods, they don't know about anybody."
In good company:
With his ring earnings and endorsements from Nike and San Miguel Beer, Manny Pacquiao was sixth on Forbes magazine's list of world's highest-paid athletes in 2009.
Tiger Woods was first with $110 million, but Pacquiao's $40 million tied him with NBA star LeBron James and golfer Phil Mickelson, and put him within $5 million of Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant, Formula One racer Kimi Raikkonen and soccer's David Beckham.
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 19 Mar 2010, 00:58
by Rick Farris
Correction: Some true LA boxing history you won't read in Ring Magazine . . .
In an earlier post, I mentioned that Armando Muniz had been cheated by Aileen Eaton.
After a sell-out bout at the Olympic, Eaton paid Armando for a percentage of a gate of 7000 fans, when actually there was 10,400 in the house.
This is true, however, I named Vic Weiss as Muniz's manager at the time.
This was incorrect, Jake Horn managed Mando for that fight, and he raised hell over his fighter being shorted.
As a result, Mando was blackballed from the Olympic, until he got rid of Jake Horn. This was when Vic Weiss came into the picture.
Weiss was a mob bag man who did business with Aileen, thus allowing Muniz to return to fight at the Olympic and challenge Carlos Palomino for the title.
Vic Weiss disappeared one day, not long after Howie Steindler was murdered.
His decomposing body was found in the trunk of his car in the parking structure of the Universal Sheraton Hotel, next to the studio.
Just want to keep the facts straight.
-Rick Farris
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 19 Mar 2010, 09:22
by kikibalt
Marilyn at Fox . . .
This mural is on the north wall of 20th Century Fox's Stage-10.
It's from the 1955 movie, "The Seven Year Itch".
I worked at Fox last week, and took this photo with my cell phone.
It reminded me of recent posts here relating to Marilyn Monroe.
There is a lot of Hollywood history on the Fox lot, this is part of that history.
-Rick Farris
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 19 Mar 2010, 13:38
by Rick Farris
Where is Roger???
Rog, we miss you. The paintings, the stories and the friendship. Hope all is well.
I realize that sometimes life interferes with our ability to post, things more important take priority.
When you are able to resurface, I for one will be happy.
-Ricardo
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 19 Mar 2010, 14:09
by THEHAMMER321
THEHAMMER321 wrote:Was looking for Alex Ramos yesterday online and Rocky Lockridge showed up on the page also so I got to reading a story about him I didn't know he was in such bad shape I remember him well from his fighting days so many of his fights were on sat or sun afternoon back when the networks NBC,ABC,CBS had fights and unlike so many fighters he wasn't arrogant or cocky and I will never forget his fight with Roger Mayweather as Roger enters the ring with dark sunglasses goes over to Lockridge corner stares him down and Lou Duva chases Roger away like the punk that he is and as far as the fight Lockridge knocks Mayweather senseless in the first round if ever a fighter got what was coming to him it was Mayweather but getting back to Lockridge the guy is homeless on the streets of Camden New Jersey a crack addict he had a stoke a few years ago and walks with a cane,I guess there is no way of telling which guys are gonna go down the wrong path because Rocky wasn't a punk or a braggart just a workman like fighter in and out of the ring just sad to see people down and out like that.
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 19 Mar 2010, 15:24
by kikibalt
Rick Farris wrote:Where is Roger???
Rog, we miss you. The paintings, the stories and the friendship. Hope all is well.
I realize that sometimes life interferes with our ability to post, things more important take priority.
When you are able to resurface, I for one will be happy.
-Ricardo

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 19 Mar 2010, 17:32
by THEHAMMER321
Rick Farris wrote:To Scartissue:
Yes, you are correct, but my ealiest piece was a contribution
in the old "Ring Magazine" In Rings Around The World" it was in the Sixties
and it was only reporting on a junior novice boxing tournament in Vancouver, go figure!
In 1972, while meeting Manuel Gonzalez, at the near end of his boxing years.
I cobbled together a few lines that were printed in the Nanaimo Daily Free Press.
In Lee Kerr's "Boxing Illustrated" column, I did a piece on the yardsticks for
measuring greatness.
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Also, in one column, he had nicknames for boxers
published. My entry was for Dick Tiger "The Biafran Banger".
The Sound Off days in World and International Boxing in the Seventies
were quite interesting. Often the arguments focused on Jerry Quarry and Muhammed Ali.
Funny thing about Quarry, it may have been at the 1968 Seattle Golden Gloves
because Boone Kirkman was from nearby Renton and attended the fights. Well he happened to be staying on the same floor as the B. C. team. Our light-heavyweight, was jogging down the hall, as Jerry ( and i think Dave Centi) were leaving a room, and he ran into Quarry. He said it was like running into a brick wall. Anyway, he wasn't one of our team winners.
For those that care about such things, I have updated the thread
BOXING: CHAMPIONS & CONTENDERS (1950 - 1959).
The theme is rock and roll, but all about boxing in the Fifties. :idea:
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
About Jerry Quarry & Dave Centi . . .
Zelley . . . Welcome to this thread! You mentioned Quarry and Dave Centi. I write a lot about Jerry Quarry because I was very close to him, however, his friend and sparring partner Centi is a name that rarely pops up. I have some vivid memories of Quarry sparring sessions at the old Main St. Gym in L.A. In one such session, Dave Centi was wearing a special headgear that protected his nose that Quarry had busted a few weeks earlier. We used to call that type of headguard a "birdcage" because it had a steel bar that ran down from the top of the forehead pad to the chin pad, more of a helmet. During the sparring session, Jerry drilled Centi with a stright right cross that crashed into the face bar with such impact that the bar dislodged from the padding and impaled Centi's forhead. I have to say the sight of Jerry's trainer Teddy Bentham pulling that metal "spear" out of the front of Centi's skull was something I'll never forget. A memory that stands out most in my mind is something I saw up close many, many times, and that was Jerry Quarry's explosive punching power.
-Rick Farris[/quote] Rick I read a piece in one of the boxing magazines back in the 1980s and it was Gil Clancy talking about Jerry Quarry's punching power and George Foreman's power he said something to this effect Quarry had perfect technique when he threw a punch,he also said he worked with Foreman before his fight with Jimmy young and that Foreman had bad technique but that he was just so big and strong but pound for pound he thought that Quarry hit harder of course Foreman outweighed him by 30 pounds which was enough to sway in Georges favor
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 19 Mar 2010, 21:33
by THEHAMMER321
kikibalt wrote:Rick Farris wrote:Where is Roger???
Rog, we miss you. The paintings, the stories and the friendship. Hope all is well.
I realize that sometimes life interferes with our ability to post, things more important take priority.
When you are able to resurface, I for one will be happy.
-Ricardo

hope everything is ok pisan

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 20 Mar 2010, 02:27
by Rick Farris
Rick I read a piece in one of the boxing magazines back in the 1980s and it was Gil Clancy talking about Jerry Quarry's punching power and George Foreman's power he said something to this effect Quarry had perfect technique when he threw a punch,he also said he worked with Foreman before his fight with Jimmy young and that Foreman had bad technique but that he was just so big and strong but pound for pound he thought that Quarry hit harder of course Foreman outweighed him by 30 pounds which was enough to sway in Georges favor
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Explosive . . .
Paul . . . Jerry was clearly an "explosive" puncher. When he was in proper physical and mental condition, his speed and timing were impressive.
He came up in an era of Ali, Frazier, Foreman and some great contenders. I believe this was one of the toughest eras in heavyweight boxing.
Although out gunned by Ali and Frazier, Quarry showed his power and skills to unbeaten Earnie Shavers, Mac Foster and Ron Lyle.
Jerry ended their unbeaten streaks, and he schooled them in the process. It was a past prime Jerry that flattened Shavers in one round.
Early in his career, Quarry unleashed a two punch combo (left hook-right cross) to the iron chin of Scrap Iron Johnson.
The power sent Scrap Iron reeling in circles across the ring until he crashed to the canvas, counted out cold! Nobody did that to Scrap, not even Liston.
Jerry Quarry certainly defined the term, "heavy handed".
Jerry's gym workouts were fun to watch, because it wasn't unusual to see somebody hit the deck, including Jerry on one occasion.
They could have counted Ken Norton out when he was dropped by Quarry in a sparring session at the Main St. Gym, in summer 1970.
Trainer Bill Slayton quickly attended his fighter as Jerry stepped to the side of the ring.
Johnny Flores pulled off Jerry's head guard and poured water in his mouth. Quarry stepped out of the ring.
I always believed that this contributed to Norton's KO loss to a small heavy from Venezuela, Jose Luis Garcia, just a couple weeks later.
Jerry often set up his head shots with a brutal left hook to the liver. He hit equally hard with both hands.
He was known for his great jab, devistating hooks high & low, but I loved his short, chopping right to the chin.
He was able to throw it with such a quick, unexpected release.
I thought Jerry was a bit jaded when he faced Shavers, but he was a relaxed underdog. Shavers caught Jerry on the wrong night.
When Shavers felt the power, he got the message.
Jerry Quarry vs. Earnie Shavers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEpVPBH12Ik
-Rick Farris
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 20 Mar 2010, 03:37
by Rick Farris
Quarry vs. Frazier I
The first round of this bout is one of my all-time favorites.
I was on my feet at the Alex Theatre in Glendale, where I watched it on closed circuit TV in 1969.
My closest amigo was Quarry's sparring partner for this bout, at Jerry's training camp at Grossinger's, in the Catskills.
This video reveals our friend Johnny Flores at Jerry's side. It really takes me back.
For a brief moment in that opening round, I realized that within the hour, I could be a stablemate of the World Heavyweight Champion.
It didn't exactly turn out that way, but the possibility made my heart pound.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuQ0ruJOehw&NR=1
-Rick Farris
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 20 Mar 2010, 06:40
by kikibalt
Mando Ramos, Frankie Duarte and Raul Rojas.
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 20 Mar 2010, 06:40
by THEHAMMER321
Rick Farris wrote:Rick I read a piece in one of the boxing magazines back in the 1980s and it was Gil Clancy talking about Jerry Quarry's punching power and George Foreman's power he said something to this effect Quarry had perfect technique when he threw a punch,he also said he worked with Foreman before his fight with Jimmy young and that Foreman had bad technique but that he was just so big and strong but pound for pound he thought that Quarry hit harder of course Foreman outweighed him by 30 pounds which was enough to sway in Georges favor
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Explosive . . .
Paul . . . Jerry was clearly an "explosive" puncher. When he was in proper physical and mental condition, his speed and timing were impressive.
He came up in an era of Ali, Frazier, Foreman and some great contenders. I believe this was one of the toughest eras in heavyweight boxing.
Although out gunned by Ali and Frazier, Quarry showed his power and skills to unbeaten Earnie Shavers, Mac Foster and Ron Lyle.
Jerry ended their unbeaten streaks, and he schooled them in the process. It was a past prime Jerry that flattened Shavers in one round.
Early in his career, Quarry unleashed a two punch combo (left hook-right cross) to the iron chin of Scrap Iron Johnson.
The power sent Scrap Iron reeling in circles across the ring until he crashed to the canvas, counted out cold! Nobody did that to Scrap, not even Liston.
Jerry Quarry certainly defined the term, "heavy handed".
Jerry's gym workouts were fun to watch, because it wasn't unusual to see somebody hit the deck, including Jerry on one occasion.
They could have counted Ken Norton out when he was dropped by Quarry in a sparring session at the Main St. Gym, in summer 1970.
Trainer Bill Slayton quickly attended his fighter as Jerry stepped to the side of the ring.
Johnny Flores pulled off Jerry's head guard and poured water in his mouth. Quarry stepped out of the ring.
I always believed that this contributed to Norton's KO loss to a small heavy from Venezuela, Jose Luis Garcia, just a couple weeks later.
Jerry often set up his head shots with a brutal left hook to the liver. He hit equally hard with both hands.
He was known for his great jab, devistating hooks high & low, but I loved his short, chopping right to the chin.
He was able to throw it with such a quick, unexpected release.
I thought Jerry was a bit jaded when he faced Shavers, but he was a relaxed underdog. Shavers caught Jerry on the wrong night.
When Shavers felt the power, he got the message.
Jerry Quarry vs. Earnie Shavers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEpVPBH12Ik
-Rick Farris
Rick my dad loved Jerry but he always said vs Jimmy Ellis instead of trying to box he should have tried outslugging him and vs Frazier he should have boxed more in some fights he just fought the wrong kind of fight
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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 20 Mar 2010, 09:52
by scartissue
Rick Farris wrote:Rick I read a piece in one of the boxing magazines back in the 1980s and it was Gil Clancy talking about Jerry Quarry's punching power and George Foreman's power he said something to this effect Quarry had perfect technique when he threw a punch,he also said he worked with Foreman before his fight with Jimmy young and that Foreman had bad technique but that he was just so big and strong but pound for pound he thought that Quarry hit harder of course Foreman outweighed him by 30 pounds which was enough to sway in Georges favor
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Explosive . . .
Paul . . . Jerry was clearly an "explosive" puncher. When he was in proper physical and mental condition, his speed and timing were impressive.
He came up in an era of Ali, Frazier, Foreman and some great contenders. I believe this was one of the toughest eras in heavyweight boxing.
Although out gunned by Ali and Frazier, Quarry showed his power and skills to unbeaten Earnie Shavers, Mac Foster and Ron Lyle.
Jerry ended their unbeaten streaks, and he schooled them in the process. It was a past prime Jerry that flattened Shavers in one round.
Early in his career, Quarry unleashed a two punch combo (left hook-right cross) to the iron chin of Scrap Iron Johnson.
The power sent Scrap Iron reeling in circles across the ring until he crashed to the canvas, counted out cold! Nobody did that to Scrap, not even Liston.
Jerry Quarry certainly defined the term, "heavy handed".
Jerry's gym workouts were fun to watch, because it wasn't unusual to see somebody hit the deck, including Jerry on one occasion.
They could have counted Ken Norton out when he was dropped by Quarry in a sparring session at the Main St. Gym, in summer 1970.
Trainer Bill Slayton quickly attended his fighter as Jerry stepped to the side of the ring.
Johnny Flores pulled off Jerry's head guard and poured water in his mouth. Quarry stepped out of the ring.
I always believed that this contributed to Norton's KO loss to a small heavy from Venezuela, Jose Luis Garcia, just a couple weeks later.
Jerry often set up his head shots with a brutal left hook to the liver. He hit equally hard with both hands.
He was known for his great jab, devistating hooks high & low, but I loved his short, chopping right to the chin.
He was able to throw it with such a quick, unexpected release.
I thought Jerry was a bit jaded when he faced Shavers, but he was a relaxed underdog. Shavers caught Jerry on the wrong night.
When Shavers felt the power, he got the message.
Jerry Quarry vs. Earnie Shavers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEpVPBH12Ik
-Rick Farris
Rick, I know what you mean about Jerry's short counter-right. In his fight with Thad Spencer, Thad threw a left, Jerry ducked and the momentum of the miss carried Thad to the ropes where Jerry countered with his thing of beauty. He also nailed Jack Bodell with that same counter-right and it was "good night sweet prince".
Scartissue
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 20 Mar 2010, 10:35
by Randyman
Rick Farris wrote:Rick I read a piece in one of the boxing magazines back in the 1980s and it was Gil Clancy talking about Jerry Quarry's punching power and George Foreman's power he said something to this effect Quarry had perfect technique when he threw a punch,he also said he worked with Foreman before his fight with Jimmy young and that Foreman had bad technique but that he was just so big and strong but pound for pound he thought that Quarry hit harder of course Foreman outweighed him by 30 pounds which was enough to sway in Georges favor
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Explosive . . .
Paul . . . Jerry was clearly an "explosive" puncher. When he was in proper physical and mental condition, his speed and timing were impressive.
He came up in an era of Ali, Frazier, Foreman and some great contenders. I believe this was one of the toughest eras in heavyweight boxing.
Although out gunned by Ali and Frazier, Quarry showed his power and skills to unbeaten Earnie Shavers, Mac Foster and Ron Lyle.
Jerry ended their unbeaten streaks, and he schooled them in the process. It was a past prime Jerry that flattened Shavers in one round.
Early in his career, Quarry unleashed a two punch combo (left hook-right cross) to the iron chin of Scrap Iron Johnson.
The power sent Scrap Iron reeling in circles across the ring until he crashed to the canvas, counted out cold! Nobody did that to Scrap, not even Liston.
Jerry Quarry certainly defined the term, "heavy handed".
Jerry's gym workouts were fun to watch, because it wasn't unusual to see somebody hit the deck, including Jerry on one occasion.
They could have counted Ken Norton out when he was dropped by Quarry in a sparring session at the Main St. Gym, in summer 1970.
Trainer Bill Slayton quickly attended his fighter as Jerry stepped to the side of the ring.
Johnny Flores pulled off Jerry's head guard and poured water in his mouth. Quarry stepped out of the ring.
I always believed that this contributed to Norton's KO loss to a small heavy from Venezuela, Jose Luis Garcia, just a couple weeks later.
Jerry often set up his head shots with a brutal left hook to the liver. He hit equally hard with both hands.
He was known for his great jab, devistating hooks high & low, but I loved his short, chopping right to the chin.
He was able to throw it with such a quick, unexpected release.
I thought Jerry was a bit jaded when he faced Shavers, but he was a relaxed underdog. Shavers caught Jerry on the wrong night.
When Shavers felt the power, he got the message.
Jerry Quarry vs. Earnie Shavers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEpVPBH12Ik
-Rick Farris
Thanks sharing that video Rick. Quarry's right hand was a thing of beauty. He almost always followed the left hook with the right hand. It was "short and crisp" as Mel Epstein would say.
By the time Jerry fought Shavers he was a little battle worn and you can see the difference in his body but he was still more than enough for Shavers. But for Ali and Frazier he might have been champ. I have no doubt that Jerry would be champ if he was fighting today.
Randy
