Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 23 Mar 2010, 15:24
Frank I have seen you and other posters on here mention the name Hap Navvaro many times can you give me some info on him please ![[icon_notworthy.gif] :bow:](./images/smilies/icon_notworthy.gif)
Paulino....Hap was the matchmaker at the Hollywood Legion Stadium back in the early '50's, he is still alive, he is in his early 90's. He will post here now and then....THEHAMMER321 wrote:Frank I have seen you and other posters on here mention the name Hap Navvaro many times can you give me some info on him please
Great post Randy. As you know I remember those years real well. I actually remember watching fights from the Hollywood Legion in 1949....Randyman wrote:Gillette's Friday Night Fights.......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_s1ohwBbJA
Charlie Powell vs Mike DeJohn
I still remember watching the Friday Night Fights with my father back in the 1950’s. It was a ritual for my father. I remember the old beer commercials and the company that my father had at the house when we watched the fights, usually my uncle Gilbert and uncle Jimmy. I was young but I clearly remember. I didn’t know who was fighting but I just loved being there with my dad. I would ask my father “Who are you voting for?” he would laugh and say “You don’t vote for the fighters, son”. I didn’t quite get it yet. Sometimes I would see what appeared to be an opening and yell out to my father “How come he didn’t throw a punch” His answer was almost always. “It’s a lot harder to see those things when you’re in the ring”. I would run around the house throwing punches at imaginary opponents. I wanted to be a boxer. My father had some old leather boxing gloves and a speed bag in the garage. I would punch away at the bag without any real knowledge of what I was doing. I just wanted to feel like a boxer.
When I was older I came to understand that the 1950’s was one of the greatest era in boxing and some of the best fighters of that time would appear on Friday nights. Guys like Sugar Ray Robinson and Carmen Basilio, Chuck Davey, Chico Vejar, Kid Gavilan, Gene Fullmer, Johnny Saxton, Tony DeMarco, Charlie Powell and so many more that I would never be able to mention them all. It was a “Golden Age” for boxing. I was lucky enough to be born at a time when I can still remember it. A little fuzzy perhaps because I was so young but still I remember those nights in our small front room in Santa Fe Springs, California, watching the fights, my father and uncles standing and yelling at the television, their hands swinging away, beer cans in their hands, hoping to be heard by their favorite fighter. Those were special days.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_GPxz5D7vo
Sugar ray Robinson vs Carmen Basilio
I’m not a 100% sure if this fight between Sugar Ray Robinson and Carmen Basilio was shown on the Friday Night Fights but I’m reasonably sure it was, either way it fits in perfectly with what I’m trying to say, the 1950’s was an unmatchable and remarkable era for boxing. The above video shows highlights of their September 23, 1957 fight at the Yankee Stadium, a fight won by Basilio via a 15 round hard fought split decision. Both men were still doing their best to win the fight when the final bell sounded. I can’t think of a more difficult fight to judge.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMCDDuyzYUc
Rocky Marciano Vintage Commercial
This Rocky Marciano-Hamm’s beer commercial is vintage 1950’s and early 1960’s and I can remember the Hamm’s commercial with the native drumbeats, to this day.
Randy just watched the beer commercial with Marciano thx for the link I thought it as funny when Rocky squeezed his hand, I am way to young to have seen the Gillette fights but I have heard and read a lot about them and Idid have a ring magazine dated 1978 that profiled most of the fighters who fought on the Gillette fights and I think Ralph ''tiger'' jones made more appearances on that program than anyone I wish I still had that magazineRandyman wrote:Gillette's Friday Night Fights.......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_s1ohwBbJA
Charlie Powell vs Mike DeJohn
I still remember watching the Friday Night Fights with my father back in the 1950’s. It was a ritual for my father. I remember the old beer commercials and the company that my father had at the house when we watched the fights, usually my uncle Gilbert and uncle Jimmy. I was young but I clearly remember. I didn’t know who was fighting but I just loved being there with my dad. I would ask my father “Who are you voting for?” he would laugh and say “You don’t vote for the fighters, son”. I didn’t quite get it yet. Sometimes I would see what appeared to be an opening and yell out to my father “How come he didn’t throw a punch” His answer was almost always. “It’s a lot harder to see those things when you’re in the ring”. I would run around the house throwing punches at imaginary opponents. I wanted to be a boxer. My father had some old leather boxing gloves and a speed bag in the garage. I would punch away at the bag without any real knowledge of what I was doing. I just wanted to feel like a boxer.
When I was older I came to understand that the 1950’s was one of the greatest era in boxing and some of the best fighters of that time would appear on Friday nights. Guys like Sugar Ray Robinson and Carmen Basilio, Chuck Davey, Chico Vejar, Kid Gavilan, Gene Fullmer, Johnny Saxton, Tony DeMarco, Charlie Powell and so many more that I would never be able to mention them all. It was a “Golden Age” for boxing. I was lucky enough to be born at a time when I can still remember it. A little fuzzy perhaps because I was so young but still I remember those nights in our small front room in Santa Fe Springs, California, watching the fights, my father and uncles standing and yelling at the television, their hands swinging away, beer cans in their hands, hoping to be heard by their favorite fighter. Those were special days.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_GPxz5D7vo
Sugar ray Robinson vs Carmen Basilio
I’m not a 100% sure if this fight between Sugar Ray Robinson and Carmen Basilio was shown on the Friday Night Fights but I’m reasonably sure it was, either way it fits in perfectly with what I’m trying to say, the 1950’s was an unmatchable and remarkable era for boxing. The above video shows highlights of their September 23, 1957 fight at the Yankee Stadium, a fight won by Basilio via a 15 round hard fought split decision. Both men were still doing their best to win the fight when the final bell sounded. I can’t think of a more difficult fight to judge.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMCDDuyzYUc
Rocky Marciano Vintage Commercial
This Rocky Marciano-Hamm’s beer commercial is vintage 1950’s and early 1960’s and I can remember the Hamm’s commercial with the native drumbeats, to this day.
Don't think I ever saw that progam Paulino...THEHAMMER321 wrote:anybody remember boxing program it was on the air about 1980 or 81 it was called '' Top rank fights of the 70s'' it was on our independent channel here in Las Vegas and it of course showed a lot of the top fights of the 1970s :??
Not me....raylawpc wrote:Anybody heard anything from Roger?
I got my ballot yesterday.Rick Farris wrote:This year's WBHOF ballot . . .
Within a day or two, those of you who are voting members of the World Boxing Hall of Fame, will receive your 2010 ballot.
Regretfully, it once again is an embarrassment. The bios are not complete, the spelling is terrible and it's full of typos.
Just for the record, I had nothing to do with it.
Everett Sanders (The WBHOF founder) must be rolling in his grave.
A couple of us (who are writers) were supposed to "proof read" it before printing. It was never forwarded to us, and mailed without our knowledge or approval.
So, once again, it is what it is, and it ain't much. The boxers on the ballot are not properly represented. I am embarrassed beyond words.
I won't point any fingers, but I want to make sure none are pointed in my direction. It was out of my hands.![]()
-Rick Farris
Send my back yesterday, and I already forgot who I voted for...LOL!!raylawpc wrote:I got my ballot yesterday.Rick Farris wrote:This year's WBHOF ballot . . .
Within a day or two, those of you who are voting members of the World Boxing Hall of Fame, will receive your 2010 ballot.
Regretfully, it once again is an embarrassment. The bios are not complete, the spelling is terrible and it's full of typos.
Just for the record, I had nothing to do with it.
Everett Sanders (The WBHOF founder) must be rolling in his grave.
A couple of us (who are writers) were supposed to "proof read" it before printing. It was never forwarded to us, and mailed without our knowledge or approval.
So, once again, it is what it is, and it ain't much. The boxers on the ballot are not properly represented. I am embarrassed beyond words.
I won't point any fingers, but I want to make sure none are pointed in my direction. It was out of my hands.![]()
-Rick Farris
PRESS RELEASE-Cambria CA, March 19, 2010 - After having been involved within the "sweet science" for over five decades and having seen hundreds of prize fighters battle their way to the top of the boxing world, Lorraine Chargin’s career within the sport is coming to an end due to a terminal battle with cancer.kikibalt wrote:I hear that boxing promoter Lorraine Chargin is real sick with terminal cancer...
Frank I remember him well I saw him fight many times in the 1980s,as most of us know on here the 50s and 60s was your time for boxing so to speak mine was the 1980s I hardly ever missed a fight in those days however in the last 10 years don't watch many fights I guess I became an old fart at a young ageRick Farris wrote:I don't remember him.kikibalt wrote:Ricardo "Guapo" Varela
You guys remember Ricardo?, he fought at the
Olympic a few times in the 1970s, maybe into
the early 1980s
-Rick
THEHAMMER321 wrote:Frank I remember him well I saw him fight many times in the 1980s,as most of us know on here the 50s and 60s was your time for boxing so to speak mine was the 1980s I hardly ever missed a fight in those days however in the last 10 years don't watch many fights I guess I became an old fart at a young ageRick Farris wrote:I don't remember him.kikibalt wrote:Ricardo "Guapo" Varela
You guys remember Ricardo?, he fought at the
Olympic a few times in the 1970s, maybe into
the early 1980s
-Rick
kikibalt wrote:I hear that boxing promoter Lorraine Chargin is real sick with terminal cancer...
BoxBuzz wrote:I know I don't add much to this great conversation on this thread, but thought I'd chime in today. My 9 year old daughter who is quite the swimmer went to Rochester New York Northeast championships and claimed the gold medal in her age group for the 50 yard butterfly, and when she was asked to compete with 12 and 13 year olds, she agreed. And came back with third place in the 100 yard back stroke and placed second in the 50 yard freestyle, this against the "big girls". LOL.
Yeah I'm a proud papa!
We took in a quick view of Niagra Falls as well. On our way back I treated my family to Graziano's and the International Boxing Hall of fame. I took a few pic's while I was there, and I'll try posting them sometime soon. Sadly no talent in the house that day.
Here's why I chimed in. I think I've heard some knocks on the IBHOF from some folks here and I just wanted an update as what the concern was. The fella (I'm spacin' on the name for the moment) kept the place open well past closing time for me and my daughter and wife, and really allowed us to drink the place in and answered all our questions...maybe he was just having a good day! I got pics of a lot of the fist casts and was pretty impressed with Carnera's exhibit, but couldn't find Liston's on this day.
He even took me downstairs and allowed me to flip through some real treasured files! It was a great time and my daughter seemed genuinely impressed with the sport for the first time. I may go back on a document hunt sometime in the future since he offered to let me peruse the formidable newspaper clippings next time 'round.
So can you give me the "critique" of the organization? I do remember conversations here about the place. But I haven't hit the "search" button yet to dig up your various comments.
Guys, I gotta tell you, I'm getting worried about Rog. Anyone know how to get in touch with him??kikibalt wrote:Not me....raylawpc wrote:Anybody heard anything from Roger?