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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 01 Apr 2010, 18:53
by kikibalt
Rick Farris wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
Rick Farris wrote: Chuck . . . Windmill White fought (and defeated) a lot of good fighters during his pro career of 60 bouts.
The night he fought Roger Rouse in 1971 at the Santa Monica Civic Auditorium, I opened the show in a five-rounder.


-Rick Farris
White beat a very good boxer in my friend Orlando (Roy) De La Fuente....
Frank . . . I remember that fight very well, at the Valley Music Theatre in Woodland Hills.
I would say that this was when Windmill White was at his best. I never took White seriously as a fighter, he was just too funny in the ring.
However, those who fought him were often caught off guard by his confusing tactics. I would like to see if I can find Ray, and maybe do a follow up story.
I'd also like to ask Orlando his memory of fighting Windmill White. I guess I'll be seeing him at the CBHOF event in June.

-Rick Farris
I didn't see it Rick, didn't miss many of Roy's fights, but this one I did..... :witzend:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 01 Apr 2010, 18:54
by kikibalt
THEHAMMER321 wrote:You know I never like to give to much credit to a trainer because of a fighters success because there is always other trainers out there who are capable but in Mike Tyson's case all you have to do is look at the tapes before Kevin Rooney was let go and after when the yes men took over, I am sure it all came down to discipline Rooney made sure he did everything fundamentally sound like how he held his hands high and bobbed and weaved at the same time and then when the yes men took over it probably went something like this in training champ you are doing fine ''my brotha'' :lol:
"My Brotha".... :lol: :lol:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 01 Apr 2010, 20:58
by THEHAMMER321
been windy out here the last couple of days sand blowing all over how has Southern cal. been as far as weather

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 01 Apr 2010, 21:01
by Rick Farris
kikibalt wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:
kikibalt wrote: White beat a very good boxer in my friend Orlando (Roy) De La Fuente....
Frank . . . I remember that fight very well, at the Valley Music Theatre in Woodland Hills.
I would say that this was when Windmill White was at his best. I never took White seriously as a fighter, he was just too funny in the ring.
However, those who fought him were often caught off guard by his confusing tactics. I would like to see if I can find Ray, and maybe do a follow up story.
I'd also like to ask Orlando his memory of fighting Windmill White. I guess I'll be seeing him at the CBHOF event in June.

-Rick Farris
I didn't see it Rick, didn't miss many of Roy's fights, but this one I did..... :witzend:
Frank, I had just fought at the Valley Music Theatre myself, a few weeks before White fought De La Fuente.
Don Fraser was promoting for the Forum Boxing Club and had Mickey Davies his matchmaker.
They had a monday night TV deal with KTLA Ch-5, which gave Southern Cal two local fight clubs televising weekly.
The Olympic had thursday nights, same 8-10pm time slot, but on Channel 13.
Windmill White was popular in TV bouts from both the Olympic in the 60's, and the Forum Boxing Club in the early 70's.
I saw Don Fraser today and meant to ask him about Windmill White, but I will soon.
I remember he was handled by another L.A. boxing legend, manager Baron Von Stumme.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 01 Apr 2010, 21:06
by Rick Farris
boxer: Ray White

birth date 1938-08-05
division light heavyweight
height 6′ 4″ / 193cm
alias Windmill
nationality United States
residence Oak View, California, United States
won 41 (KO 11) + lost 14 (KO 2) + drawn 5 = 60
rounds boxed 495 KO% 18.33


1974-06-11 173 Randy Miller 169
Coliseum, Houston, Texas, United States W TKO 9 10
1974-04-29 174 Eddie Bailey 179 10-8-4
Spectrum, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States W PTS 10 10
1974-03-15 172½ Jesse Burnett 176 7-0-1
Coliseum, San Diego, California, United States L KO 8
1974-02-18 Eddie Bailey 10-8-3
Spectrum, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States D PTS 8 8
1974-01-22 Faustino Perez 0-6-0
Coliseum, El Paso, Texas, United States W TKO 7 10
1973-12-10 Charles Atlas 3-3-0
Monroe, Louisiana, United States W PTS 10 10
1973-11-10 Bobby Rascon 41-24-1
Community Center, Tucson, Arizona, United States W PTS 10 10
2 judges scored draw one for White?

1973-08-17 178 Hildo Silva 174 22-5-3
Coliseum, San Diego, California, United States D PTS 8 8
1973-07-03 179¼ Koroseta Kid 193 10-3-0
Civic Auditorium, Honolulu, Hawaii, United States W PTS 10 10
1973-06-01 Bobby Rascon 40-23-1
Community Center, Tucson, Arizona, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Joe Vozdik ~

1973-03-10 177½ Chuck Hamilton 180 16-14-0
Santa Rosa, California, United States W TKO 8 10
1973-02-20 Lino Rendon 19-18-2
Civic Auditorium, Bakersfield, California, United States W PTS 10 10
Date uncertain

1973-01-29 173½ Mike Quarry 175 36-1-1
Convention Center, Anaheim, California, United States L UD 12 12
~ referee: Chuck Hassett | judge: Chuck Hassett | judge: Eddie Fierro | judge: John Thomas ~
~ USA California State light heavyweight title ~

1972-12-18 Charley Austin 39-41-7
Phoenix, Arizona, United States W PTS 10 10
1972-12-12 178 Bob Hazelton 198 3-7-0
San Diego, California, United States W TKO 8 10
1972-11-20 175 Orlando de la Fuentes 173 17-6-1
Valley Music Theatre, Woodland Hills, California, United States W UD 12 12
1972-11-06 Frank Niblett 16-42-11
Phoenix, Arizona, United States W PTS 10 10
1972-10-02 175 Rafael Gutierrez 175 42-7-4
Valley Music Theatre, Woodland Hills, California, United States D PTS 12 12
~ referee: Dick Young 6-6 | 5-5 | 8-3 ~
~ USA California State light heavyweight title ~

1972-04-26 Johnny Griffin 19-7-0
Cleveland, Ohio, United States L PTS 10 10
1972-04-08 Hill Chambers 7-16-1
Community Center, Tucson, Arizona, United States W UD 10 10
1972-02-26 174 Terry Lee 175 12-11-3
Auditorium, Long Beach, California, United States W SD 12 12
~ referee: Rudy Jordan 6-5 | judge: Bob Dossey 6-5 | judge: Chuck Hassett 4-5 ~
~ USA California State light heavyweight title ~

1971-12-04 175 Terry Lee 11-10-3
Auditorium, Long Beach, California, United States W SD 12 12
~ referee: John Thomas 6-5 | judge: Larry Rozadilla 6-5 | judge: Pat Murphy 3-8 ~
~ USA California State light heavyweight title ~
Lee was knocked down in the 6th round.

1971-11-19 Hill Chambers 4-14-1
Auditorium, Long Beach, California, United States W PTS 10 10
1971-09-24 174½ Amado Vasquez 169 12-8-2
Convention Center, Anaheim, California, United States W TKO 10 12
~ USA California State light heavyweight title ~
Vasquez was stopped on a cut left eye.

1971-07-03 175 Jimmy Dupree 175 31-6-2
Civic Auditorium, Santa Monica, California, United States L UD 12 12
~ referee: John Thomas 5-6 | judge: Larry Rozadilla 5-7 | judge: Chuck Hassett 5-7 ~
~ NABF light heavyweight title ~
White was knocked down in the 4th round.

1971-06-19 Lonnie Bennett 175 3-1-0
Ventura, California, United States L SD 10 10
1971-06-05 177 Steve Grant 192 13-9-1
Civic Auditorium, Santa Monica, California, United States W PTS 10 10
1971-05-22 173½ Roger Rouse 172 36-14-5
Civic Auditorium, Santa Monica, California, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Lee Grossman 10-0 | judge: Rudy Jordan 7-3 | judge: Chuck Hassett 8-1 ~

1971-04-17 173¼ Chuck Hamilton 171 15-9-0
Valley Music Theatre, Woodland Hills, California, United States W UD 12 12
~ referee: Lee Grossman 8-2 | judge: Eddie Fierro 8-1 | judge: Abe Cohen 10-0 ~
~ USA California State light heavyweight title ~

1971-03-20 175 Chuck Hamilton 171 15-8-0
Valley Music Theatre, Woodland Hills, California, United States W TKO 2 12
~ time: 0:28 | referee: George Latka ~
~ USA California State light heavyweight title ~
Hamilton was stopped on a cut left eye.

1971-02-20 177½ Terry Lee 176 11-8-3
Valley Music Theatre, Woodland Hills, California, United States W UD 10 10
1971-01-09 Robie Harris 3-6-1
Valley Music Theatre, Woodland Hills, California, United States W PTS 10 10
1970-11-21 185½ Steve Grant 190 13-8-0
Valley Music Theatre, Woodland Hills, California, United States D PTS 8 8
1970-08-10 182 Steve Carter 202 13-2-0
Auditorium, Oakland, California, United States L UD 10 10
1970-06-29 179 Hank Casey 179½ 32-9-6
Oakland, California, United States L PTS 9 9
1970-05-01 178 A J Staples 176 10-4-0
Saint Louis, Missouri, United States W PTS 10 10
1970-03-30 174 Willis Earls 177 8-10-1
Austin, Texas, United States L PTS 10 10
1969-10-27 Frank Niblett 15-35-11
Valley Music Theatre, Woodland Hills, California, United States W UD 10 10
1969-08-26 180½ Rocky Martin 182 7-10-0
Valley Music Theatre, Woodland Hills, California, United States W TKO 8 10
1969-07-01 177 Steve Grant 189 12-7-0
Valley Music Theatre, Woodland Hills, California, United States W SD 10 10
~ referee: Larry Rozadilla 4-5 | judge: George Latka 6-2 | judge: Bob Dossey 6-2 ~

1968-12-04 Lino Rendon 19-16-2
Fairground Auditorium, Ventura, California, United States W PTS 10 10
1968-08-27 181 Sonny Moore 199 20-27-2
Municipal Auditorium, San Antonio, Texas, United States W UD 10 10
1968-07-17 187 Gary Bates 195½ 10-4-2
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 6 6
1968-07-06 196 Dick Gosha 191 7-7-0
County Fairgrounds, Ventura, California, United States W PTS 10 10
1968-04-11 Willis Earls 3-5-1
Sports Palace, Beaumont, Texas, United States W KO 2
1967-11-28 George Johnson 12-17-4
San Diego, California, United States L PTS 10 10
1967-10-09 191 Sam Wyatt 189 4-5-2
Municipal Auditorium, Long Beach, California, United States L PTS 6 6
1967-07-27 201 Mark White 184 2-3-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 2 6
1967-05-04 198 Roy Wallace 203 2-0-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States D PTS 6 6
1967-04-06 194 Mark White 199 2-1-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W UD 6 6
1967-03-23 188 Mark White 197 1-1-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L PTS 4 4
1967-02-16 188 Gene Turner 178 2-3-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 4 4
1967-02-02 188 Frank Davis 209 1-5-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 4 4
1966-11-03 186 Buddy Levine 202 2-3-0
Seattle Center Coliseum, Seattle, Washington, United States W TKO 4
1966-05-09 Lavern Hardison
Hacienda Hotel, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W KO 4
1966-03-28 175 Scott Wisooker 175 1-1-0
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 5 5
1966-01-15 Archie Ray 18-4-2
Phoenix, Arizona, United States L KO 3
1962-03-30 169 Aaron Peralta 165 1-5-0
Sports Arena, Los Angeles, California, United States L PTS 4 4
White was knocked down in the 3rd round.

1959-07-10 Dewayne Garris 6-3-1
Monroe, Louisiana, United States W PTS 4 4
1958-12-12 Bill DeSoto
Monroe, Louisiana, United States L PTS 4 4

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 01 Apr 2010, 23:02
by THEHAMMER321
I was reminiscing about when my late father and I would watch fights together one time in particular we were watching James ''quick'' Tillis fight Mike Weaver for the WBA championship in which Weaver won a decision over ''Quick'' Tillis my dad turned to me and said ''yeah James ''Quick Tillis was so Quick he forgot to throw punches'' :lol: :lol:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 02 Apr 2010, 10:01
by kikibalt
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The Forum 1972, a typical Monday night televised card.
Promoter- Don Fraser, Matchmaker- Mickey Davies

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 02 Apr 2010, 10:22
by kikibalt
"HAVANA" . . .

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It was supposed to be the new Casablanca. It had Robert Redford, the director was Sydney Pollack, and the best film crew in the world. A combination of Hollywood's and Great Britain's most talented artists and technicians. For one year, it was the most expensive film ever made. To this day, it boasts the largest man made set in film making history. Some brilliant British set builders took six months creating four square blocks of downtown Havana, Cuba, as it was when Castro took over in 1958. It was built on an abandoned air strip in the Domincan Republic.In the photo above, the guy in the middle of the street is Robert Redford. We were tossing the football around after lunch. The actor steps out of his motor home and walks towards us. He was a varsity baseball and football player at Van Nuys High School. He wanted to throw the ball. I had a camera on the lighting truck nearby, I snapped this as he turned running to catch a pass. The football can be seen about 4' from his finger tips. Look at that set. It's all a facade, faceless fronts of buildings that don't exist. We filmed from November 1989 to May 1990, more than five months. It was a great experience. A couple weeks after we left for home, the buildings you see in the photo were all taken down, the building materials donated to the locals. The largest man made set in motion picture history!


-Rick Farris

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 02 Apr 2010, 13:56
by THEHAMMER321
kikibalt wrote:http://westcoastboxersofyearsgoneby.blogspot.com/

Guys, I started my own blog, please post.
Frank is this website active cause I cant find any recent posts :witzend:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 02 Apr 2010, 14:14
by kikibalt
THEHAMMER321 wrote:
kikibalt wrote:http://westcoastboxersofyearsgoneby.blogspot.com/

Guys, I started my own blog, please post.
Frank is this website active cause I cant find any recent posts :witzend:
I Haven't being keeping it up Paulino, go ahead and post on it...

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 02 Apr 2010, 22:11
by Randyman
kikibalt wrote:Image

The Forum 1972, a typical Monday night televised card.
Promoter- Don Fraser, Matchmaker- Mickey Davies
It seems to me that I've heard that name Ricky Farris before.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 02 Apr 2010, 22:13
by Randyman
kikibalt wrote:
THEHAMMER321 wrote:
kikibalt wrote:http://westcoastboxersofyearsgoneby.blogspot.com/

Guys, I started my own blog, please post.
Frank is this website active cause I cant find any recent posts :witzend:
I Haven't being keeping it up Paulino, go ahead and post on it...
Frank, Paulino will only be able to comment on a post but he won't be able to post on your blog unless you give him permission. Unless you have already done that.

Randy

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 02 Apr 2010, 22:17
by Randyman
kikibalt wrote:"HAVANA" . . .

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It was supposed to be the new Casablanca. It had Robert Redford, the director was Sydney Pollack, and the best film crew in the world. A combination of Hollywood's and Great Britain's most talented artists and technicians. For one year, it was the most expensive film ever made. To this day, it boasts the largest man made set in film making history. Some brilliant British set builders took six months creating four square blocks of downtown Havana, Cuba, as it was when Castro took over in 1958. It was built on an abandoned air strip in the Domincan Republic.In the photo above, the guy in the middle of the street is Robert Redford. We were tossing the football around after lunch. The actor steps out of his motor home and walks towards us. He was a varsity baseball and football player at Van Nuys High School. He wanted to throw the ball. I had a camera on the lighting truck nearby, I snapped this as he turned running to catch a pass. The football can be seen about 4' from his finger tips. Look at that set. It's all a facade, faceless fronts of buildings that don't exist. We filmed from November 1989 to May 1990, more than five months. It was a great experience. A couple weeks after we left for home, the buildings you see in the photo were all taken down, the building materials donated to the locals. The largest man made set in motion picture history!


-Rick Farris
As I recall but I could be wrong, "Havana" was not the hit they had hoped it would be. Personally I liked the movie. It's been a while since I've seen it. Lena Olin was in that movie. She stole the scene every time she was in front of the camera.

Randy

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 02 Apr 2010, 22:20
by Randyman
THEHAMMER321 wrote:I was reminiscing about when my late father and I would watch fights together one time in particular we were watching James ''quick'' Tillis fight Mike Weaver for the WBA championship in which Weaver won a decision over ''Quick'' Tillis my dad turned to me and said ''yeah James ''Quick Tillis was so Quick he forgot to throw punches'' :lol: :lol:
Paulie, some of best memories and best times were spent watching fights with my father. Those were the good old days as far as I'm concerned.

Randy :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 02 Apr 2010, 22:53
by Rick Farris
Randyman wrote:
kikibalt wrote:"HAVANA" . . .

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It was supposed to be the new Casablanca. It had Robert Redford, the director was Sydney Pollack, and the best film crew in the world. A combination of Hollywood's and Great Britain's most talented artists and technicians. For one year, it was the most expensive film ever made. To this day, it boasts the largest man made set in film making history. Some brilliant British set builders took six months creating four square blocks of downtown Havana, Cuba, as it was when Castro took over in 1958. It was built on an abandoned air strip in the Domincan Republic.In the photo above, the guy in the middle of the street is Robert Redford. We were tossing the football around after lunch. The actor steps out of his motor home and walks towards us. He was a varsity baseball and football player at Van Nuys High School. He wanted to throw the ball. I had a camera on the lighting truck nearby, I snapped this as he turned running to catch a pass. The football can be seen about 4' from his finger tips. Look at that set. It's all a facade, faceless fronts of buildings that don't exist. We filmed from November 1989 to May 1990, more than five months. It was a great experience. A couple weeks after we left for home, the buildings you see in the photo were all taken down, the building materials donated to the locals. The largest man made set in motion picture history!


-Rick Farris
As I recall but I could be wrong, "Havana" was not the hit they had hoped it would be. Personally I liked the movie. It's been a while since I've seen it. Lena Olin was in that movie. She stole the scene every time she was in front of the camera.

Randy

Randy . . . Havana was a big loser. It went to video less than a week after it's theatrical release.
Lena Olin is a great actress. Raul Julia also stole some scenes from Redford.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 02 Apr 2010, 23:49
by Randyman
An Anniversary To Remember...

At Saint Mary's Catholic Church they have a weekly husband's marriage seminar. At a session, last week, the Priest asked Luigi, who was approaching his 50th wedding anniversary, to take a few, minutes and share some insight into how he had managed to stay married to the same woman all these years.

Luigi replied to the assembled husbands, "Well, I've a-tried to treat-a her nice, spend the money on her, but best is that I took-a her to Italy for the 20th anniversary!"

The Priest responded, "Luigi, you are an amazing inspiration to all the husbands here! Please tell us what you are planning for your wife for your 50th anniversary."

Luigi proudly replied, "I'm a-gonna go to get her."

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 02 Apr 2010, 23:57
by Rick Farris
Randyman wrote:An Anniversary To Remember...

At Saint Mary's Catholic Church they have a weekly husband's marriage seminar. At a session, last week, the Priest asked Luigi, who was approaching his 50th wedding anniversary, to take a few, minutes and share some insight into how he had managed to stay married to the same woman all these years.

Luigi replied to the assembled husbands, "Well, I've a-tried to treat-a her nice, spend the money on her, but best is that I took-a her to Italy for the 20th anniversary!"

The Priest responded, "Luigi, you are an amazing inspiration to all the husbands here! Please tell us what you are planning for your wife for your 50th anniversary."

Luigi proudly replied, "I'm a-gonna go to get her."

:lol: Maybe Luigi should encourage her to stay a little longer.
You know, "the heart grows fonder" thing. :OhYes:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 03 Apr 2010, 11:02
by THEHAMMER321
Rick Farris wrote:
Randyman wrote:An Anniversary To Remember...

At Saint Mary's Catholic Church they have a weekly husband's marriage seminar. At a session, last week, the Priest asked Luigi, who was approaching his 50th wedding anniversary, to take a few, minutes and share some insight into how he had managed to stay married to the same woman all these years.

Luigi replied to the assembled husbands, "Well, I've a-tried to treat-a her nice, spend the money on her, but best is that I took-a her to Italy for the 20th anniversary!"

The Priest responded, "Luigi, you are an amazing inspiration to all the husbands here! Please tell us what you are planning for your wife for your 50th anniversary."

Luigi proudly replied, "I'm a-gonna go to get her."

:lol: Maybe Luigi should encourage her to stay a little longer.
You know, "the heart grows fonder" thing. :OhYes:
Rick are you implying ''life's a bitch then you marry one'' :lol: btw I hope my wife don't read this :lol:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 03 Apr 2010, 11:16
by kikibalt
THEHAMMER321 wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:
Randyman wrote:An Anniversary To Remember...

At Saint Mary's Catholic Church they have a weekly husband's marriage seminar. At a session, last week, the Priest asked Luigi, who was approaching his 50th wedding anniversary, to take a few, minutes and share some insight into how he had managed to stay married to the same woman all these years.

Luigi replied to the assembled husbands, "Well, I've a-tried to treat-a her nice, spend the money on her, but best is that I took-a her to Italy for the 20th anniversary!"

The Priest responded, "Luigi, you are an amazing inspiration to all the husbands here! Please tell us what you are planning for your wife for your 50th anniversary."

Luigi proudly replied, "I'm a-gonna go to get her."

:lol: Maybe Luigi should encourage her to stay a little longer.
You know, "the heart grows fonder" thing. :OhYes:
Rick are you implying ''life's a bitch then you marry one'' :lol: btw I hope my wife don't read this :lol:
Hammer, Hammer!!

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 03 Apr 2010, 13:03
by Wildhawke11
with Hap Nav and Frank.and the other talent on board This West Coast thread needs regular backing up.Back up programs are freeor pretty cheap now

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 03 Apr 2010, 14:01
by Rick Farris
THEHAMMER321 wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:
Randyman wrote:An Anniversary To Remember...

At Saint Mary's Catholic Church they have a weekly husband's marriage seminar. At a session, last week, the Priest asked Luigi, who was approaching his 50th wedding anniversary, to take a few, minutes and share some insight into how he had managed to stay married to the same woman all these years.

Luigi replied to the assembled husbands, "Well, I've a-tried to treat-a her nice, spend the money on her, but best is that I took-a her to Italy for the 20th anniversary!"

The Priest responded, "Luigi, you are an amazing inspiration to all the husbands here! Please tell us what you are planning for your wife for your 50th anniversary."

Luigi proudly replied, "I'm a-gonna go to get her."

:lol: Maybe Luigi should encourage her to stay a little longer.
You know, "the heart grows fonder" thing. :OhYes:
Rick are you implying ''life's a bitch then you marry one'' :lol: btw I hope my wife don't read this :lol:
A little breathing room . . .

I love my wife, but sometimes a little distance is a good thing. Just make sure that it's "her idea."
And remember, this thread is our club house. Be very selective of which posts you share with the wife.
For example, Roger Esty paintings are always a nice thing to share. "Hey Babe, look at Roger's latest . . .".
They will admire Roger's skill, but have no interst in the subject (Just another boxer).
Women screw things up when you involve them in boxing matters.
Women don't get boxing, it's intent is too direct. Women are too cagey for such a direct approach.
The only woman I've ever met who truly understood the nature of boxing was Aileen Eaton.
There are women who have been inducted into Halls of Fame who really don't get it.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 03 Apr 2010, 17:06
by Expug
Randyman wrote:
THEHAMMER321 wrote:I was reminiscing about when my late father and I would watch fights together one time in particular we were watching James ''quick'' Tillis fight Mike Weaver for the WBA championship in which Weaver won a decision over ''Quick'' Tillis my dad turned to me and said ''yeah James ''Quick Tillis was so Quick he forgot to throw punches'' :lol: :lol:
Paulie, some of best memories and best times were spent watching fights with my father. Those were the good old days as far as I'm concerned.

Randy :TU:
Those are the best of times indeed Randy.
Ive boxed a couple times in the gym with Tillis Hammer.
He could bang when he decided to set down on his punches.
I was at the fight when he fought Weaver.It was a dissapointment for sure that James didnt do a little more.
However, Hagler -Hamsho was also on that card.
Marvin looked like an all-time great. He butchered Hamsho. Theres really no other way to put it.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 03 Apr 2010, 22:32
by THEHAMMER321
Randyman wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Floyd Mayweather is a Power Seller on Ebay
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They never learn, do they?
They have only one chance to make big money, and no chance of keeping it.
The bling of boxers is the most disgusting of all. 24Kt Ignorance.

-Rick Farris
All the money in the world can't give a guy class. :shame:
you got that right Randy you either got it or you don't and even though I never met anybody on this thread in person but I am sure I will in the future I can say with certainty that all the regular posters on here are class acts :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Apr 2010, 04:25
by kikibalt
Jim Murray on John Forsythe
April 2, 2010

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One of the benefits of working for The Times is having easy access to the paper's archives, and we mine them regularly when researching news obituaries. I'm always thrilled to find an article on the latest subject written by Jim Murray, the late Pulitzer Prize-winning sports columnist. Because actor John Forsythe, who died Thursday at 92, had a few sports connections, Murray found occasion to write about him. After the jump you'll find a column Murray wrote in 1990.

-- Claire Noland

Photo: John Forsythe at Dodger Stadium in 1982. Credit: Reed Saxon / Associated Press


Sunday June 3, 1990

Dodger Voice Found More Stylish Roles

By JIM MURRAY,

"Luck," the late, great Branch Rickey used to say, "is the residue of design."

No one was ever quite sure what he--or it--meant. But a career, it is well known, is a residue of luck. And success occurs only when--and if--talent meets opportunity.

The world of sports is a seductress on a grand scale. No one has yet figured out what would have happened had Ronald Reagan elected to stay in the broadcast booth, doing Chicago Cubs' games.

Would he today be Harry Caray? Would the Cold War still be on? What if he had never come West with the team to Catalina and had never fallen under the eye of Hollywood? Would he have been able to keep going till he was not only Warner Bros.' leading man but America's leading man?

What of the ones who did not escape? What if Howard Cosell had not become involved as counsel for Little League and became the host for Knothole Gang broadcasts? Would he have become a renowned labor lawyer or a gadfly in Congress?

And what if the Dodgers hadn't been so lousy in the late '30s and early '40s? Would America have been deprived of one of its most celebrated and beloved actors?

The circumstances are interesting.

Larry MacPhail had taken over the team in those days and brought in Branch Rickey to move it up. It was a rollicking collection of misfits and mess-ups known fondly in the press as "the Flatbush Follies" or "the Daffy Dodgers."

They ran the bases with the careless elan of stampeding cattle, and once when a team promoter recommended a contest to send someone from Brooklyn to a secluded romantic place no one had ever been before, Casey Stengel suggested third base.

It was the famous time when the New York Giants' Manager, Bill Terry--to his ultimate regret--cracked, "Is Brooklyn still in the league?"

It was--but barely. The pitching staff had a Max Butcher. The infield and outfield had their own butchers. The team had a permanent lock on the second division.

First baseman Buddy Hassett could sing like a thrush. Unfortunately, he hit like one, too. He had so little power a Brooklyn Eagle sportswriter wrote, "They kept Hassett around to sing 'When Irish Eyes Are Smiling' at the team banquets--and to pop out with the bases loaded at the team rallies."

Into this rollicking setup in 1938 came a young sophomore from the University of North Carolina. Even then he had this caressing, mellifluous voice, dark wavy hair and drop-dead good looks that would make him a show business staple for half a century.

But he got the job as public address announcer for the Dodgers not entirely because of his dulcet baritone and Shakespearean diction--and family friendship with the MacPhails--but mostly because the resident radio broadcaster, Red Barber, refused to participate in some of the bizarre promotions of the day.

One of them had Jesse Owens racing against a horse around the bases. Others had Babe Didrikson hitting golf balls out of Ebbets Field with nine-irons.

None of this bothered the young collegian. For him, it was heady stuff. A dedicated baseball fan--he can still name you the lineup, batting averages and mothers' maiden names of the entire 1931 Philadelphia Athletics--it was rubbing elbows with the gods.

He got $10 a day and got to sit in a dugout with the greatest cast of characters of the day. One of them was Babe Ruth, hired that year as part of the promotional effort to hype the box office, and the youngster out of college remembers his first great disillusionment with the grand old game.

"Babe would sit on the bench and smoke a cigar and belch and tell stories about how he would drink a quart of booze and eat 10 or 12 hot dogs and still go out and bat .390. I didn't think ballplayers even smoked or went out with girls. He destroyed all my illusions."

While he had no qualms about announcing the MacPhail capers on field, the take-home pay proved a little harder to put up with. He began to shop around for other jobs and found himself cast in radio soap operas.

He still thought his future would be in baseball and he hankered to get into the broadcast booth. But the Dodgers were too well fixed there with the incomparable Red Barber, the competent Connie Desmond and the soon-to-appear Vin Scully.

So John Forsythe became an actor.

"I had about as much chance of cracking that lineup as the team's," he says.

None of this pleased his father, a Wall Street broker. He equated both professions with selling hot watches on street corners or telling fortunes for a living.

"You're not an actor," he told his son. "You don't even look like an actor."

"How do actors look?" his son asked.

"Oh, they all wear their hats tipped on the side of their heads and their overcoats tossed over their shoulders, and they have this deep resonant voice and smoke cigarettes with long holders."

John Forsythe never managed to pass for a Barrymore, but he became one of America's, indeed the world's, most familiar leading men. He once did a television series, "Charlie's Angels," in which only his voice appeared--and everyone knew whose it was.

He became the embodiment of suavity and gentility. Witty, urbane, good-humored, civilized, gallant. Someone once said, if San Francisco were a man, it'd be John Forsythe.

He's one of television's and filmdom's 10 most recognizable personalities. His image is positive.

"My father always told me, if you wanted to be taken for a gentleman, first you you had to look like a gentleman. I remember going to Actor's Studio. Brando and Montgomery Clift and all those were in torn T-shirts and I had my button-down collars. They called me the Brooks Brothers Bohemian."

No one would ever take John Forsythe for anything but a gentleman. Does his Ebbets Field past ever come up? How did that ever fit him to play Blake Carrington?

"It was valuable experience," he says. "You learn to handle yourself in front of crowds, you learn to project, you learn to adjust."

Of course, if he had stuck with the club, he could be second man in the booth today. He could be Ross Porter.

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