BoxRec

AntonioMartin wrote: ↑25 Jan 2021, 23:55

NoScoutingReports wrote: ↑25 Jan 2021, 13:11 Kelly Pavlik v Jermain Taylor 1 & 2

Great action from two quality middleweights, particularly the first fight! Kelly was just so consistent, continuously pumping the jab and firing home the straight right hand, Taylor went for the kill after his knockdown in fight 1 but once he failed to get Pavlik out of there Kelly broke him down with precise work upstairs before forcing the stoppage in R7.

The 2nd bout was a more cagey affair and Taylor was certainly more effective defensively, managed to neutralise the Pavlik right hand much more efficiently and established his own jab too. Again it was the consistency from Pavlik that got him through as he came on stronger in the 2nd half of the fight to take over on the cards, great determination and solid fundamentals.

The first fight is an all-timer!

No doubt, a classic.

handsofstone wrote: ↑26 Jan 2021, 04:03 Gerry Cooney vs Ken Norton



Cooney steamrolls through Norton in under a minute of the 1st round, demolished him, came out trapped Norton un the corner and was unloaidng lefts and rights, Norton slumped down onto the seat of his pants where the ref was far too slow in getting in, Norton took 3/4 too many shots, Cooney about decapitating him with left and right uppercuts before eventually it was stopped, a rout

Norton i remember seeing an interview and he said that after Muhammad Ali 3 which was September 1976 and it was a close controversial decision loss he talked about how his heart just went out of boxing. He lost interest and he did not really care anymore and did not train with the same gusto and intensity of the past. It is too bad really he seemed like a decent guy and he had much pain with his near fatal car accident after his retirement.

f read wrote: ↑26 Jan 2021, 05:28

handsofstone wrote: ↑26 Jan 2021, 04:03 Gerry Cooney vs Ken Norton



Cooney steamrolls through Norton in under a minute of the 1st round, demolished him, came out trapped Norton un the corner and was unloaidng lefts and rights, Norton slumped down onto the seat of his pants where the ref was far too slow in getting in, Norton took 3/4 too many shots, Cooney about decapitating him with left and right uppercuts before eventually it was stopped, a rout

Norton i remember seeing an interview and he said that after Muhammad Ali 3 which was September 1976 and it was a close controversial decision loss he talked about how his heart just went out of boxing. He lost interest and he did not really care anymore and did not train with the same gusto and intensity of the past. It is too bad really he seemed like a decent guy and he had much pain with his near fatal car accident after his retirement.

Norton only survived the car accident because of his incredible fitness. Anyone else is brown bread. Norton went over a cliff.

bennie wrote: ↑26 Jan 2021, 09:58

f read wrote: ↑26 Jan 2021, 05:28

handsofstone wrote: ↑26 Jan 2021, 04:03 Gerry Cooney vs Ken Norton



Cooney steamrolls through Norton in under a minute of the 1st round, demolished him, came out trapped Norton un the corner and was unloaidng lefts and rights, Norton slumped down onto the seat of his pants where the ref was far too slow in getting in, Norton took 3/4 too many shots, Cooney about decapitating him with left and right uppercuts before eventually it was stopped, a rout

Norton i remember seeing an interview and he said that after Muhammad Ali 3 which was September 1976 and it was a close controversial decision loss he talked about how his heart just went out of boxing. He lost interest and he did not really care anymore and did not train with the same gusto and intensity of the past. It is too bad really he seemed like a decent guy and he had much pain with his near fatal car accident after his retirement.

Norton only survived the car accident because of his incredible fitness. Anyone else is brown bread. Norton went over a cliff.

Incredible!

I met him at a local autograph show in 1994...sadly me and my dad were the only ones at the show but that's another story (the same happened to Jeanine Garofalo at another local show I, sadly too, did not attend but she talked about it on her MTV show, only one person went to it!)

Anyways my dad thought he was slow speaking due to his fights but we later learned about the accident I had all but forgotten about actually...

Its incredible indeed that he survived..what courage and resolve!!

Total domination by Galindez..but I have to say it might have been due to Rossman fighting with one hand half through the fight...

Michael Nunn vs Frank Tate



Nunn stops Tate in the 9th to become World Middleweight champion, an absolute masterclass from Nunn who schooled Tate from start to finish, too quick, slickn and elusive for Tate who found him too slippery to pin down, Nunn done as he pleased and fought with a real confidence, darted in and out flicking out the jab and coming over with quick left hands and right hooks before getting out of range leaving Tate clueless, Nunn was always up on his toes lateral movement was on point, Tate looked like a mismatched challenger, Nunn was constantly dropping his hands inviting Tate in


Right at the end of thr 8th Nunn dropped Tate with a left to the body and although the bell went midcount Tate was down for over 10 seconds, not sure what the rules were regarding being saved by bell but Nunn's team thought it was over, still both men came out for 9th amd straight away Nunn was all over Tate like a rash throwing like a madman Tate was in clear distress and the ref jumped in ,

AntonioMartin wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021, 04:01

Total domination by Galindez..but I have to say it might have been due to Rossman fighting with one hand half through the fight...

Galindez's last great fight. He really didn't like Rossman.

bennie wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021, 07:12

AntonioMartin wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021, 04:01

Total domination by Galindez..but I have to say it might have been due to Rossman fighting with one hand half through the fight...

Galindez's last great fight. He really didn't like Rossman.

I think it went both ways....crazy...but at the end they did hug so who knows..

Michael Nunn vs Sumbu Kalambay



Nunn sleeps Kalambay in a round to retain his World Middleweight title, big win first and only time Kalambay was ever stopped, caught cold, he threw a left jab and left it out there too long and Nunn was quick to come over with a left of his own, caught Kalambay flush and put him flat on his back for the count

handsofstone wrote: ↑28 Jan 2021, 04:32 Michael Nunn vs Sumbu Kalambay



Nunn sleeps Kalambay in a round to retain his World Middleweight title, big win first and only time Kalambay was ever stopped, caught cold, he threw a left jab and left it out there too long and Nunn was quick to come over with a left of his own, caught Kalambay flush and put him flat on his back for the count

That was one devastating punch. He caught Kalambay cold and it was lights out. Nunn was never known as a puncher so that is why it was surprising. It just shows that if you catch anyone with a perfect punch it could be sleep time. Also it was early in the first round. I thought Sumbu would really be a tough test for Nunn but he got caught flush early.

Nunn combined a jab-parry with a deep step to the outside so the left hand came from right outside Kalumbay's eyeline

f read wrote: ↑28 Jan 2021, 05:21

handsofstone wrote: ↑28 Jan 2021, 04:32 Michael Nunn vs Sumbu Kalambay



Nunn sleeps Kalambay in a round to retain his World Middleweight title, big win first and only time Kalambay was ever stopped, caught cold, he threw a left jab and left it out there too long and Nunn was quick to come over with a left of his own, caught Kalambay flush and put him flat on his back for the count

That was one devastating punch. He caught Kalambay cold and it was lights out. Nunn was never known as a puncher so that is why it was surprising. It just shows that if you catch anyone with a perfect punch it could be sleep time. Also it was early in the first round. I thought Sumbu would really be a tough test for Nunn but he got caught flush early.

That was a highly anticipated bout as I recall..

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑29 Jul 2020, 05:06

handsofstone wrote: ↑29 Jul 2020, 05:01

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑29 Jul 2020, 04:50

believe it or not I can remember passionate forum arguments about the scoring of this fight......

I never scored but the action was so sparse that even the wider rounds were close, Hopkins was so hard to land clean against but his output early was dreadful, Taylor was forcing things if anything

The rematch is even worse I believe??

I've literally never seen it. I remember a few people going hammer and tongs over and over, one group saying Hopkins had hurt Taylor with a right hand in the last round i think, another madly pro-Taylor, and probably 3/4 of the forum not giving a fvck

Just watched these both again back to back, not the most enjoyable double header I have to say close fights but very low on action/exchanges. Bernard rarely put anything together of note early and relied mainly on single shots, lead right hand being the most effective in both fights. I had Taylor in fight 1 and a draw in the 2nd but not easy to score.

Michael Nunn vs Iran Barkley



Nunn beats Barkley by MD to retain his World Middleweight title, i read beforehand this was a poor fight but i enjoyed it, plenty action, exchanges etc, Barkley was aggressive amd never stopped coming forward, landed plenty but Nunn made him miss with most, Nunn snapped out the jab, fired out quick counters and danced away from Barkley mostly, although it was always competitive Nunn looked a clear winner

clinton woods v glen Johnson 3rd fight , feel beat up watching the fight, i think a ref now would have stopped it in the 9th for glen, i thought johnson won it, brutal fight every punch had a thud behind it

handsofstone wrote: ↑29 Jan 2021, 07:43 Michael Nunn vs Iran Barkley



Nunn beats Barkley by MD to retain his World Middleweight title, i read beforehand this was a poor fight but i enjoyed it, plenty action, exchanges etc, Barkley was aggressive amd never stopped coming forward, landed plenty but Nunn made him miss with most, Nunn snapped out the jab, fired out quick counters and danced away from Barkley mostly, although it was always competitive Nunn looked a clear winner

This is when Nunn was at the top of his game. It was 1989 i believe. In 1991 he was stopped by James Toney and it was all down hill form there. Back in 1989 they were touting him as the next Sugar Ray Leonard and in fact a possible fight with Leonard was even discussed. I know a few who met him and instead of signing the boxing card he printed his name MICHAEL NUNN.

Juan Meza versus Mike Ayala...



Great fight but Mike was just too short in height and reach for Meza, a kind of-not entirely-underrated Mexican champion.

AntonioMartin wrote: ↑30 Jan 2021, 08:27 Juan Meza versus Mike Ayala...



Great fight but Mike was just too short in height and reach for Meza, a kind of-not entirely-underrated Mexican champion.

Great fight agreed. On the Chavez-Ruben Castillo card April 19 1985. You know great fights are usually about the matchup how 2 opponents match up against each other. Meza had a few great fights and paydays in the 1984-85 time range. We the fans must not forget some of these boxers that seem to get lost in the shuffle and lost in time.

f read wrote: ↑30 Jan 2021, 08:49

AntonioMartin wrote: ↑30 Jan 2021, 08:27 Juan Meza versus Mike Ayala...



Great fight but Mike was just too short in height and reach for Meza, a kind of-not entirely-underrated Mexican champion.

Great fight agreed. On the Chavez-Ruben Castillo card April 19 1985. You know great fights are usually about the matchup how 2 opponents match up against each other. Meza had a few great fights and paydays in the 1984-85 time range. We the fans must not forget some of these boxers that seem to get lost in the shuffle and lost in time.

4 real man..Meza was a good champion, who lasted only a relatively short time as champ because look who he had as co Super-Bantams at his time in the division......Wilfredo Gomez and Lupe Pintor!!

AntonioMartin wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021, 08:40

bennie wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021, 07:12

AntonioMartin wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021, 04:01

Total domination by Galindez..but I have to say it might have been due to Rossman fighting with one hand half through the fight...

Galindez's last great fight. He really didn't like Rossman.

I think it went both ways....crazy...but at the end they did hug so who knows..

When did they hug? Galindez had attacked Rossman's brother at the end of one of the rounds and rushed over and taunted Rossman when he retired on his stool. I doubt Rossman wanted anywhere near him.

AntonioMartin wrote: ↑30 Jan 2021, 10:39

f read wrote: ↑30 Jan 2021, 08:49

AntonioMartin wrote: ↑30 Jan 2021, 08:27 Juan Meza versus Mike Ayala...



Great fight but Mike was just too short in height and reach for Meza, a kind of-not entirely-underrated Mexican champion.

Great fight agreed. On the Chavez-Ruben Castillo card April 19 1985. You know great fights are usually about the matchup how 2 opponents match up against each other. Meza had a few great fights and paydays in the 1984-85 time range. We the fans must not forget some of these boxers that seem to get lost in the shuffle and lost in time.

4 real man..Meza was a good champion, who lasted only a relatively short time as champ because look who he had as co Super-Bantams at his time in the division......Wilfredo Gomez and Lupe Pintor!!

Yes they were all time great legendary champions. Gomez is arguably the greatest at 122 pounds. Pintor is bottom 10 bantamweight division. Yes it is all about timing just as in life. If a talent comes along at the time a great titlist is carrying the crown he may be overshadowed.

f read wrote: ↑30 Jan 2021, 11:10

AntonioMartin wrote: ↑30 Jan 2021, 10:39

f read wrote: ↑30 Jan 2021, 08:49

Great fight agreed. On the Chavez-Ruben Castillo card April 19 1985. You know great fights are usually about the matchup how 2 opponents match up against each other. Meza had a few great fights and paydays in the 1984-85 time range. We the fans must not forget some of these boxers that seem to get lost in the shuffle and lost in time.

4 real man..Meza was a good champion, who lasted only a relatively short time as champ because look who he had as co Super-Bantams at his time in the division......Wilfredo Gomez and Lupe Pintor!!

Yes they were all time great legendary champions. Gomez is arguably the greatest at 122 pounds. Pintor is bottom 10 bantamweight division. Yes it is all about timing just as in life. If a talent comes along at the time a great titlist is carrying the crown he may be overshadowed.

I was bitterly disappointed in Ayala's performance against Meza. He seemed to freeze in his first major fight since his epic encounter with Danny Lopez.

bennie wrote: ↑30 Jan 2021, 11:00

AntonioMartin wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021, 08:40

bennie wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021, 07:12


Galindez's last great fight. He really didn't like Rossman.

I think it went both ways....crazy...but at the end they did hug so who knows..

When did they hug? Galindez had attacked Rossman's brother at the end of one of the rounds and rushed over and taunted Rossman when he retired on his stool. I doubt Rossman wanted anywhere near him.

I thought I saw Rossman come over and patch things with Galindez with a hug after the fight was over...
I could be wrong...

Michael Nunn vs Marlon Starling



Nunn beats Starling by MD to retain his World Middleweight title, should've been unanimous, wasnt a classic but Nunn was a clear winner, Starling started off promising, he was nearly a head shorter than Nunn but he got up close put his head on Nunn's chest and roughed him up making him uncomfortable, by round 3 Starling just switched off and Nunn picked and poked his way to box Starling with relative ease, flicking out the jab, shoeshine combos and easily outboxing him, not sure why Starling allowed himself to lose like that, looked strange, he came forward but never threw and was picked off, not sure how a judge could give him a draw, Nunn dominated mostly

handsofstone wrote: ↑01 Feb 2021, 04:52 Michael Nunn vs Marlon Starling



Nunn beats Starling by MD to retain his World Middleweight title, should've been unanimous, wasnt a classic but Nunn was a clear winner, Starling started off promising, he was nearly a head shorter than Nunn but he got up close put his head on Nunn's chest and roughed him up making him uncomfortable, by round 3 Starling just switched off and Nunn picked and poked his way to box Starling with relative ease, flicking out the jab, shoeshine combos and easily outboxing him, not sure why Starling allowed himself to lose like that, looked strange, he came forward but never threw and was picked off, not sure how a judge could give him a draw, Nunn dominated mostly

Marlon Starling in my opinion was to small to be a middleweight. The welterweight limit was perfect for him. He was outclassed and overmatched against Michael Nunn. i remember watching this fight on HBO.