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Chuck1052 wrote:When did Pop Soper quit running his training camp in the Ojai area? I do know that his camp was in operation from the 1920s to the 1940s. At that time, Ojai was more isolated.

- Chuck Johnston

Chuck, Hap or Don Fraser would be the one to answer that I would think....

It seems to me, Kiki, that Soper's was still in operation as late as the late 1950s We had Willie Vaughn training there in 1954 for his bout with Bobo Olson at the Legion and the Olympic had Ramon Fuentes training there at the same time. It probably closed when Pop himself died.

hap navarro

kikibalt wrote:It seems to me, Kiki, that Soper's was still in operation as late as the late 1950s We had Willie Vaughn training there in 1954 for his bout with Bobo Olson at the Legion and the Olympic had Ramon Fuentes training there at the same time. It probably closed when Pop himself died.

hap navarro

Thanks, Frank. And also thanks to Hap Navarro.

Antonio Margarito announces comeback fight

Boxer says he will return to the ring May 8 in Mexico and claims not to have known anything about incident that led to his license being revoked last year.

April 6, 2010

Scandal-stained Antonio Margarito returned to boxing's bright lights Tuesday, announcing a May 8 comeback bout and fighting through a barrage of tough questions about the plaster-caked inserts he nearly took into his welterweight world title loss last year at Staples Center.

"I didn't know, I don't know anything about what happened," Margarito told reporters surrounding him at a Los Angeles hotel. "I put my hands up there, and they wrapped them."

But couldn't a fighter tell if hardened pads were put atop the knuckles of his hands, as they were before being confiscated in the minutes preceding Margarito's defeat to Shane Mosley? And shouldn't Margarito (37-6, 27 knockouts) first try to get his license reinstated here in California, where it remains revoked, instead of taking a junior-middleweight, 10-round pay-per-view bout in Aguascalientes, Mexico, where no license is required?

The questioning visibly frustrated Margarito, 32, who at one point complained, "I don't know what you guys want from me. You don't have to believe me. I'll prove it to everyone. I'll show you guys."

After upsetting then-unbeaten Miguel Cotto in a technical knockout in July 2008, Margarito stood as the most popular Mexican fighter in the U.S., routinely drawing loud ovations at public appearances.

Tuesday was the formal beginning of his image rehabilitation tour.

Backed by a legal team and promoter Bob Arum, Margarito is poised to participate in major fights should he return impressively in the May 8 bout against Roberto Garcia (28-2, 21 KOs). Arum said Margarito is the main option for Manny Pacquiao if talks to resurrect a Pacquiao-Floyd Mayweather Jr. bout fail again.

A crowd estimated at 20,000 is expected for Margarito's fight in Mexico, and Arum said interest in the boxer could generate as many as 200,000 pay-per-view buys.

Margarito's comeback bout is in Mexico "because he needs to fight," Arum said. The plan is for Margarito to then reapply for a boxing license in the U.S. by repeating that the boxer knew nothing about an intent to load the gloves.

"That's the evidence," Arum said, "and there's no evidence contrary to that."

However, the controversy has damaged Margarito. Fight fans have taken to calling him "Marga-Cheato" and former opponents Cotto and Kermit Cintron have speculated their losses were the result of loaded gloves.

"Now, every opponent can say that," Margarito said. "I didn't cheat anybody."

At the California State Athletic Commission hearing in February 2009, where the licenses of Margarito and trainer Javier Capetillo were revoked, the trainer told commission members he must have accidentally inserted the hardened pads in Margarito's hand wraps without the fighter's knowledge.

Margarito said Tuesday that he fired Capetillo "for what he did to me."

"We want to get the fans back who we lost," said Sergio Diaz, Margarito's co-manager. "Tony knows you only do that by working hard. He's motivated to show people he's always been clean."

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kikibalt wrote:Antonio Margarito announces comeback fight

Boxer says he will return to the ring May 8 in Mexico and claims not to have known anything about incident that led to his license being revoked last year.

April 6, 2010

Scandal-stained Antonio Margarito returned to boxing's bright lights Tuesday, announcing a May 8 comeback bout and fighting through a barrage of tough questions about the plaster-caked inserts he nearly took into his welterweight world title loss last year at Staples Center.

"I didn't know, I don't know anything about what happened," Margarito told reporters surrounding him at a Los Angeles hotel. "I put my hands up there, and they wrapped them."

But couldn't a fighter tell if hardened pads were put atop the knuckles of his hands, as they were before being confiscated in the minutes preceding Margarito's defeat to Shane Mosley? And shouldn't Margarito (37-6, 27 knockouts) first try to get his license reinstated here in California, where it remains revoked, instead of taking a junior-middleweight, 10-round pay-per-view bout in Aguascalientes, Mexico, where no license is required?

The questioning visibly frustrated Margarito, 32, who at one point complained, "I don't know what you guys want from me. You don't have to believe me. I'll prove it to everyone. I'll show you guys."

After upsetting then-unbeaten Miguel Cotto in a technical knockout in July 2008, Margarito stood as the most popular Mexican fighter in the U.S., routinely drawing loud ovations at public appearances.

Tuesday was the formal beginning of his image rehabilitation tour.

Backed by a legal team and promoter Bob Arum, Margarito is poised to participate in major fights should he return impressively in the May 8 bout against Roberto Garcia (28-2, 21 KOs). Arum said Margarito is the main option for Manny Pacquiao if talks to resurrect a Pacquiao-Floyd Mayweather Jr. bout fail again.

A crowd estimated at 20,000 is expected for Margarito's fight in Mexico, and Arum said interest in the boxer could generate as many as 200,000 pay-per-view buys.

Margarito's comeback bout is in Mexico "because he needs to fight," Arum said. The plan is for Margarito to then reapply for a boxing license in the U.S. by repeating that the boxer knew nothing about an intent to load the gloves.

"That's the evidence," Arum said, "and there's no evidence contrary to that."

However, the controversy has damaged Margarito. Fight fans have taken to calling him "Marga-Cheato" and former opponents Cotto and Kermit Cintron have speculated their losses were the result of loaded gloves.

"Now, every opponent can say that," Margarito said. "I didn't cheat anybody."

At the California State Athletic Commission hearing in February 2009, where the licenses of Margarito and trainer Javier Capetillo were revoked, the trainer told commission members he must have accidentally inserted the hardened pads in Margarito's hand wraps without the fighter's knowledge.

Margarito said Tuesday that he fired Capetillo "for what he did to me."

"We want to get the fans back who we lost," said Sergio Diaz, Margarito's co-manager. "Tony knows you only do that by working hard. He's motivated to show people he's always been clean."

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What do you think about this Frank? I've wrapped a lot of hands in my day, and I can't imagine how I could have secreted my actions from any fighter whose hands I wrapped had I tried to put a Plaster of Paris insert into the gauze or tape. How do you hide something like that from the fighter?

raylawpc wrote:

kikibalt wrote:Antonio Margarito announces comeback fight

Boxer says he will return to the ring May 8 in Mexico and claims not to have known anything about incident that led to his license being revoked last year.

April 6, 2010

Scandal-stained Antonio Margarito returned to boxing's bright lights Tuesday, announcing a May 8 comeback bout and fighting through a barrage of tough questions about the plaster-caked inserts he nearly took into his welterweight world title loss last year at Staples Center.

"I didn't know, I don't know anything about what happened," Margarito told reporters surrounding him at a Los Angeles hotel. "I put my hands up there, and they wrapped them."

But couldn't a fighter tell if hardened pads were put atop the knuckles of his hands, as they were before being confiscated in the minutes preceding Margarito's defeat to Shane Mosley? And shouldn't Margarito (37-6, 27 knockouts) first try to get his license reinstated here in California, where it remains revoked, instead of taking a junior-middleweight, 10-round pay-per-view bout in Aguascalientes, Mexico, where no license is required?

The questioning visibly frustrated Margarito, 32, who at one point complained, "I don't know what you guys want from me. You don't have to believe me. I'll prove it to everyone. I'll show you guys."

After upsetting then-unbeaten Miguel Cotto in a technical knockout in July 2008, Margarito stood as the most popular Mexican fighter in the U.S., routinely drawing loud ovations at public appearances.

Tuesday was the formal beginning of his image rehabilitation tour.

Backed by a legal team and promoter Bob Arum, Margarito is poised to participate in major fights should he return impressively in the May 8 bout against Roberto Garcia (28-2, 21 KOs). Arum said Margarito is the main option for Manny Pacquiao if talks to resurrect a Pacquiao-Floyd Mayweather Jr. bout fail again.

A crowd estimated at 20,000 is expected for Margarito's fight in Mexico, and Arum said interest in the boxer could generate as many as 200,000 pay-per-view buys.

Margarito's comeback bout is in Mexico "because he needs to fight," Arum said. The plan is for Margarito to then reapply for a boxing license in the U.S. by repeating that the boxer knew nothing about an intent to load the gloves.

"That's the evidence," Arum said, "and there's no evidence contrary to that."

However, the controversy has damaged Margarito. Fight fans have taken to calling him "Marga-Cheato" and former opponents Cotto and Kermit Cintron have speculated their losses were the result of loaded gloves.

"Now, every opponent can say that," Margarito said. "I didn't cheat anybody."

At the California State Athletic Commission hearing in February 2009, where the licenses of Margarito and trainer Javier Capetillo were revoked, the trainer told commission members he must have accidentally inserted the hardened pads in Margarito's hand wraps without the fighter's knowledge.

Margarito said Tuesday that he fired Capetillo "for what he did to me."

"We want to get the fans back who we lost," said Sergio Diaz, Margarito's co-manager. "Tony knows you only do that by working hard. He's motivated to show people he's always been clean."

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What do you think about this Frank? I've wrapped a lot of hands in my day, and I can't imagine how I could have secreted my actions from any fighter whose hands I wrapped had I tried to put a Plaster of Paris insert into the gauze or tape. How do you hide something like that from the fighter?

I don't believe you can hide it from the fighter, every fighter I wrapped was looking while I was doing it, checking how the hands felt they would tell me if they were okay with the wrap, AM can say what he wants, but he knew what was happening....he can't fool some old bulls like us, can he Tom?

Sad news!

Lorraine Chargin, longtime boxing promoter with her husband Don, passed away Tuesday in a hospital near their Cambria, California coastal home. Lorraine and Don have been a couple since 1957 and wed for 49 years. “I don’t know what I’ll do without my sweet Lorraine,” said Don. “I can’t stop looking at her picture. The only comfort I have is knowing that my sweetheart is no longer suffering.” Lorraine, 79, had been treated for cancer in recent weeks. Don was inducted into The International Boxing Hall of Fame in 2001 and everyone agreed that Lorraine was unofficially a member of The Hall as well. A memorial service for friends and family will be held in Cambria next Wednesday. She will missed but never forgotten. Rest in peace, Lorraine.
April 7th, 2010 Source: Fightnews

Don & Lorraine Chargin

My condolences to the Chargin famliy

kikibalt wrote:Sad news!

Lorraine Chargin, longtime boxing promoter with her husband Don, passed away Tuesday in a hospital near their Cambria, California coastal home. Lorraine and Don have been a couple since 1957 and wed for 49 years. “I don’t know what I’ll do without my sweet Lorraine,” said Don. “I can’t stop looking at her picture. The only comfort I have is knowing that my sweetheart is no longer suffering.” Lorraine, 79, had been treated for cancer in recent weeks. Don was inducted into The International Boxing Hall of Fame in 2001 and everyone agreed that Lorraine was unofficially a member of The Hall as well. A memorial service for friends and family will be held in Cambria next Wednesday. She will missed but never forgotten. Rest in peace, Lorraine.
April 7th, 2010 Source: Fightnews

Sad indeed . . .

kikibalt wrote:

raylawpc wrote:

kikibalt wrote:Antonio Margarito announces comeback fight

Boxer says he will return to the ring May 8 in Mexico and claims not to have known anything about incident that led to his license being revoked last year.

April 6, 2010

Scandal-stained Antonio Margarito returned to boxing's bright lights Tuesday, announcing a May 8 comeback bout and fighting through a barrage of tough questions about the plaster-caked inserts he nearly took into his welterweight world title loss last year at Staples Center.

"I didn't know, I don't know anything about what happened," Margarito told reporters surrounding him at a Los Angeles hotel. "I put my hands up there, and they wrapped them."

But couldn't a fighter tell if hardened pads were put atop the knuckles of his hands, as they were before being confiscated in the minutes preceding Margarito's defeat to Shane Mosley? And shouldn't Margarito (37-6, 27 knockouts) first try to get his license reinstated here in California, where it remains revoked, instead of taking a junior-middleweight, 10-round pay-per-view bout in Aguascalientes, Mexico, where no license is required?

The questioning visibly frustrated Margarito, 32, who at one point complained, "I don't know what you guys want from me. You don't have to believe me. I'll prove it to everyone. I'll show you guys."

After upsetting then-unbeaten Miguel Cotto in a technical knockout in July 2008, Margarito stood as the most popular Mexican fighter in the U.S., routinely drawing loud ovations at public appearances.

Tuesday was the formal beginning of his image rehabilitation tour.

Backed by a legal team and promoter Bob Arum, Margarito is poised to participate in major fights should he return impressively in the May 8 bout against Roberto Garcia (28-2, 21 KOs). Arum said Margarito is the main option for Manny Pacquiao if talks to resurrect a Pacquiao-Floyd Mayweather Jr. bout fail again.

A crowd estimated at 20,000 is expected for Margarito's fight in Mexico, and Arum said interest in the boxer could generate as many as 200,000 pay-per-view buys.

Margarito's comeback bout is in Mexico "because he needs to fight," Arum said. The plan is for Margarito to then reapply for a boxing license in the U.S. by repeating that the boxer knew nothing about an intent to load the gloves.

"That's the evidence," Arum said, "and there's no evidence contrary to that."

However, the controversy has damaged Margarito. Fight fans have taken to calling him "Marga-Cheato" and former opponents Cotto and Kermit Cintron have speculated their losses were the result of loaded gloves.

"Now, every opponent can say that," Margarito said. "I didn't cheat anybody."

At the California State Athletic Commission hearing in February 2009, where the licenses of Margarito and trainer Javier Capetillo were revoked, the trainer told commission members he must have accidentally inserted the hardened pads in Margarito's hand wraps without the fighter's knowledge.

Margarito said Tuesday that he fired Capetillo "for what he did to me."

"We want to get the fans back who we lost," said Sergio Diaz, Margarito's co-manager. "Tony knows you only do that by working hard. He's motivated to show people he's always been clean."

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What do you think about this Frank? I've wrapped a lot of hands in my day, and I can't imagine how I could have secreted my actions from any fighter whose hands I wrapped had I tried to put a Plaster of Paris insert into the gauze or tape. How do you hide something like that from the fighter?

I don't believe you can hide it from the fighter, every fighter I wrapped was looking while I was doing it, checking how the hands felt they would tell me if they were okay with the wrap, AM can say what he wants, but he knew what was happening....he can't fool some old bulls like us, can he Tom?

My take is he is either incredibly stupid if he thinks anyone with even a minimal exposure to boxing would believe him, or he is in serous denial and needs psycho-therapy. As far as I'm concerned, he should be banned for life.

I hope that Don Chargin, his family and friends accept my condolences.

- Chuck Johnston

Lorraine Chargin, fight promoter with husband Don, dies at 79

April 7, 2010 |

Lorraine Chargin, 79, who promoted hundreds of fights with her husband, former Olympic Auditorium boxing matchmaker Don Chargin, died of cancer Tuesday at Twin Cities Community Hospital in the San Luis Obispo County town of Templeton.

The Chargins, longtime residents of the San Fernando Valley who later moved to Cambria, promoted boxing shows in San Francisco, Sacramento, Reno and elsewhere. They were fixtures at major fights, including the most lucrative card in history — Oscar De La Hoya vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr. in 2007 — which they co-promoted.

"They were synonymous," veteran boxing publicist Bill Caplan said. "Don did the matchmaking; Lorraine did the detail work."

Lorraine Chargin was strong-willed and feisty, yet caring. She famously stood up to brash promoter Don King when he barged into Arco Arena in Sacramento without a credential in 1995 to watch future heavyweight champion Lennox Lewis.

"If you don’t start acting like a gentleman, I’ll throw you out of here," Chargin told King.

"She was not afraid of anyone," Caplan said. "A strong woman, with a heart of gold."

The Chargins presided over the careers of champion boxers Bobby Chacon, Tony Lopez, Willie Jorrin and Loreto Garza, along with respected heavyweights Henry Clark and Eddie Machen. Recently, the couple advised Roberto Garcia, who landed a date against Antonio Margarito in his comeback fight May 8 in Mexico.

Lorraine Chargin was born Dec. 4, 1930, in New Haven, Conn. She is survived by her husband of 49 years.

A private service will be held in Cambria, and later this year the International Boxing Hall of Fame, which counts Don Chargin as an inductee, will present a special recognition to Lorraine.

-- Lance Pugmire

raylawpc wrote:

kikibalt wrote:Sad news!

Lorraine Chargin, longtime boxing promoter with her husband Don, passed away Tuesday in a hospital near their Cambria, California coastal home. Lorraine and Don have been a couple since 1957 and wed for 49 years. “I don’t know what I’ll do without my sweet Lorraine,” said Don. “I can’t stop looking at her picture. The only comfort I have is knowing that my sweetheart is no longer suffering.” Lorraine, 79, had been treated for cancer in recent weeks. Don was inducted into The International Boxing Hall of Fame in 2001 and everyone agreed that Lorraine was unofficially a member of The Hall as well. A memorial service for friends and family will be held in Cambria next Wednesday. She will missed but never forgotten. Rest in peace, Lorraine.
April 7th, 2010 Source: Fightnews

Sad indeed . . .

My prayers are with Don. May Lorraine Chargin rest in peace.

raylawpc wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

raylawpc wrote: What do you think about this Frank? I've wrapped a lot of hands in my day, and I can't imagine how I could have secreted my actions from any fighter whose hands I wrapped had I tried to put a Plaster of Paris insert into the gauze or tape. How do you hide something like that from the fighter?

I don't believe you can hide it from the fighter, every fighter I wrapped was looking while I was doing it, checking how the hands felt they would tell me if they were okay with the wrap, AM can say what he wants, but he knew what was happening....he can't fool some old bulls like us, can he Tom?

My take is he is either incredibly stupid if he thinks anyone with even a minimal exposure to boxing would believe him, or he is in serous denial and needs psycho-therapy. As far as I'm concerned, he should be banned for life.

My feelings exactly.

Boxing back in San Diego

By Felipe Leon

Bobby D. Presents in association with Jorge Marron Productions offer their second fight night of the year with “Turf War: San Diego vs. Calexico” on Thursday, April 8th , at the Four Points by Sheraton in Kearny Mesa, a suburb of San Diego, CA. In the main event, undefeated Christopher “SD Kid” Martin (16-0, 5KO) will defend his California State Bantamweight title against hard hitting Ruben “Finito” Lopez (15-11-2, 13KO) of Calexico, CA, in an eight round bout.

Martin is coming a very impressive stoppage of the previously undefeated Eduardo Arcos of Tijuana, MX, in his last showing in November of last year while Lopez has not fought since 2008 when he defeated Sergio Ruiz via first round KO in Mexicali, MX.

In the semi main event, La Mesa, CA’s Amaris “La Reyna” Quintana (2-0-1) will face off against Melissa McMorrow (3-1-2) in their much anticipated rematch of their war which they waged in June of last year. After four all action rounds, both women walked away with a draw. This time the Quintana-McMorrow light flyweight bout will be fought up to six rounds.

In a rare showing of heavyweights in southern California, Charles Tucker of San Diego, CA, will be making his professional debut against the cagey Anthony Moonie (2-1), also of San Diego in a four rounder while super featherweight Artur Bernetsyan (1-0) will go after his second win against the always dangerous TBA.

One more bout fleshes out the five fight night.

The Four Points by Sheraton is located at 8110 Aero Drive, San Diego, CA 92123. Doors open at 6:30pm with the first punch thrown at 7:30pm. For ticket info please contact 619.420.8866.

To cheat is well within our human nature but when caught you have take it on the chin but to cheat when you know you maybe putting some one's life at risk is beyond any excuse that you can put forward as a defence. Do the crime do the time

Rick Farris wrote:Boxing back in San Diego

By Felipe Leon

Bobby D. Presents in association with Jorge Marron Productions offer their second fight night of the year with “Turf War: San Diego vs. Calexico” on Thursday, April 8th , at the Four Points by Sheraton in Kearny Mesa, a suburb of San Diego, CA. In the main event, undefeated Christopher “SD Kid” Martin (16-0, 5KO) will defend his California State Bantamweight title against hard hitting Ruben “Finito” Lopez (15-11-2, 13KO) of Calexico, CA, in an eight round bout.

Martin is coming a very impressive stoppage of the previously undefeated Eduardo Arcos of Tijuana, MX, in his last showing in November of last year while Lopez has not fought since 2008 when he defeated Sergio Ruiz via first round KO in Mexicali, MX.

In the semi main event, La Mesa, CA’s Amaris “La Reyna” Quintana (2-0-1) will face off against Melissa McMorrow (3-1-2) in their much anticipated rematch of their war which they waged in June of last year. After four all action rounds, both women walked away with a draw. This time the Quintana-McMorrow light flyweight bout will be fought up to six rounds.

In a rare showing of heavyweights in southern California, Charles Tucker of San Diego, CA, will be making his professional debut against the cagey Anthony Moonie (2-1), also of San Diego in a four rounder while super featherweight Artur Bernetsyan (1-0) will go after his second win against the always dangerous TBA.

One more bout fleshes out the five fight night.

The Four Points by Sheraton is located at 8110 Aero Drive, San Diego, CA 92123. Doors open at 6:30pm with the first punch thrown at 7:30pm. For ticket info please contact 619.420.8866.

A state title fight schedule for 8 rounds? I remember when they were schedule for 12 rounds

kikibalt wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:Boxing back in San Diego

By Felipe Leon

Bobby D. Presents in association with Jorge Marron Productions offer their second fight night of the year with “Turf War: San Diego vs. Calexico” on Thursday, April 8th , at the Four Points by Sheraton in Kearny Mesa, a suburb of San Diego, CA. In the main event, undefeated Christopher “SD Kid” Martin (16-0, 5KO) will defend his California State Bantamweight title against hard hitting Ruben “Finito” Lopez (15-11-2, 13KO) of Calexico, CA, in an eight round bout.

Martin is coming a very impressive stoppage of the previously undefeated Eduardo Arcos of Tijuana, MX, in his last showing in November of last year while Lopez has not fought since 2008 when he defeated Sergio Ruiz via first round KO in Mexicali, MX.

In the semi main event, La Mesa, CA’s Amaris “La Reyna” Quintana (2-0-1) will face off against Melissa McMorrow (3-1-2) in their much anticipated rematch of their war which they waged in June of last year. After four all action rounds, both women walked away with a draw. This time the Quintana-McMorrow light flyweight bout will be fought up to six rounds.

In a rare showing of heavyweights in southern California, Charles Tucker of San Diego, CA, will be making his professional debut against the cagey Anthony Moonie (2-1), also of San Diego in a four rounder while super featherweight Artur Bernetsyan (1-0) will go after his second win against the always dangerous TBA.

One more bout fleshes out the five fight night.

The Four Points by Sheraton is located at 8110 Aero Drive, San Diego, CA 92123. Doors open at 6:30pm with the first punch thrown at 7:30pm. For ticket info please contact 619.420.8866.

A state title fight schedule for 8 rounds? I remember when they were schedule for 12 rounds

Frank . . . I was thinking the same thing. Boxing as we knew it is gone forever. Today's boxing is a product of amateur boxing, which forces boxers into mastering a game of tag as opposed to fighting. They are trying to remove the idea of "fighting" from boxing, I guess to make it more socially acceptable (?). We used to also have at least one ten rounder per card. Today, I guess there aren't many who can fight the full ten rounds. The above card sounds like it will stink the place up. Remember when we used to see good amateur boxing in El Monte? Compare that with the crappy event we attended last year in El Monte. No Baltazars, Vitals, Quarrys type of talent on that card.

Rick Farris wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:Boxing back in San Diego

By Felipe Leon

Bobby D. Presents in association with Jorge Marron Productions offer their second fight night of the year with “Turf War: San Diego vs. Calexico” on Thursday, April 8th , at the Four Points by Sheraton in Kearny Mesa, a suburb of San Diego, CA. In the main event, undefeated Christopher “SD Kid” Martin (16-0, 5KO) will defend his California State Bantamweight title against hard hitting Ruben “Finito” Lopez (15-11-2, 13KO) of Calexico, CA, in an eight round bout.

Martin is coming a very impressive stoppage of the previously undefeated Eduardo Arcos of Tijuana, MX, in his last showing in November of last year while Lopez has not fought since 2008 when he defeated Sergio Ruiz via first round KO in Mexicali, MX.

In the semi main event, La Mesa, CA’s Amaris “La Reyna” Quintana (2-0-1) will face off against Melissa McMorrow (3-1-2) in their much anticipated rematch of their war which they waged in June of last year. After four all action rounds, both women walked away with a draw. This time the Quintana-McMorrow light flyweight bout will be fought up to six rounds.

In a rare showing of heavyweights in southern California, Charles Tucker of San Diego, CA, will be making his professional debut against the cagey Anthony Moonie (2-1), also of San Diego in a four rounder while super featherweight Artur Bernetsyan (1-0) will go after his second win against the always dangerous TBA.

One more bout fleshes out the five fight night.

The Four Points by Sheraton is located at 8110 Aero Drive, San Diego, CA 92123. Doors open at 6:30pm with the first punch thrown at 7:30pm. For ticket info please contact 619.420.8866.

A state title fight schedule for 8 rounds? I remember when they were schedule for 12 rounds

Frank . . . I was thinking the same thing. Boxing as we knew it is gone forever. Today's boxing is a product of amateur boxing, which forces boxers into mastering a game of tag as opposed to fighting. They are trying to remove the idea of "fighting" from boxing, I guess to make it more socially acceptable (?). We used to also have at least one ten rounder per card. Today, I guess there aren't many who can fight the full ten rounds. The above card sounds like it will stink the place up. Remember when we used to see good amateur boxing in El Monte? Compare that with the crappy event we attended last year in El Monte. No Baltazars, Vitals, Quarrys type of talent on that card.

Now, now guys . . . be gentle. Remember both Gene Tunney and Frank's ATGest bantamweight (Manuel Ortiz) won their world titles in ten-round fights . . .

Rick, you are spot on with the assesment of amateur boxing.
Ive often wondered if the mandate requiring headgear in am fights has been a contributing factor to the pro game slipping.
Maybe fighters dont learn certain techniques because of a false sense of security in the ring. Maybe the game started to attract a more safety conscious individual.Guys came along with less of a blood and guts attitude because the headgear was considered protective. I dont know. Things changed in the late eighties though.
Rick, Ive never worn headgear in a fight.Have you? It would be strange I think. In the gym of course we wore it sparring. But in the seventies, I believe it was optional for amateurs.

One thing that surely is ruining amateur boxing internationaly is the Box point system wich leads to the top amateur fighters being the ones whos best at playing tag as Rick correctly called it.Body punching wich should be something everyone learns is seldom awarded with points.and is therefore ignored
And the headgear? its more dangerous than fighting without, because it limits the perenial(???) vision so you get tagged by punches you would be able to see and slip if not for the headgear hence everyone fight from a double guard. It is truly a sad state of things in amateur boxing. And when we add to that, that amateur boxing is tenfolds as corrupt as Frankie Carbo .

raylawpc wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:

kikibalt wrote: A state title fight schedule for 8 rounds? I remember when they were schedule for 12 rounds

Frank . . . I was thinking the same thing. Boxing as we knew it is gone forever. Today's boxing is a product of amateur boxing, which forces boxers into mastering a game of tag as opposed to fighting. They are trying to remove the idea of "fighting" from boxing, I guess to make it more socially acceptable (?). We used to also have at least one ten rounder per card. Today, I guess there aren't many who can fight the full ten rounds. The above card sounds like it will stink the place up. Remember when we used to see good amateur boxing in El Monte? Compare that with the crappy event we attended last year in El Monte. No Baltazars, Vitals, Quarrys type of talent on that card.

Now, now guys . . . be gentle. Remember both Gene Tunney and Frank's ATGest bantamweight (Manuel Ortiz) won their world titles in ten-round fights . . .

Well, yes, but they were not 8 round fights.....

Panzerfaust wrote: that amateur boxing is tenfolds as corrupt as Frankie Carbo .

AMEN to that!!

Expug wrote:Rick, you are spot on with the assesment of amateur boxing.
Ive often wondered if the mandate requiring headgear in am fights has been a contributing factor to the pro game slipping.
Maybe fighters dont learn certain techniques because of a false sense of security in the ring. Maybe the game started to attract a more safety conscious individual.Guys came along with less of a blood and guts attitude because the headgear was considered protective. I dont know. Things changed in the late eighties though.
Rick, Ive never worn headgear in a fight.Have you? It would be strange I think. In the gym of course we wore it sparring. But in the seventies, I believe it was optional for amateurs.

I used to have an old article in Ring Magazine in which Charlie Goldman attributed the prevalence of accidental head butts and the resulting cuts to headgear being worn in the gym. Charlie claimed that nobody was accidentally butted when he was fighting because they didn't have headgear in those days, and, thus, they learned the hard way in the gym how to avoid head contact.

kikibalt wrote:

Panzerfaust wrote: that amateur boxing is tenfolds as corrupt as Frankie Carbo .

AMEN to that!!

When I read that I think about Sean O'Grady, who only had about ten amateur fights and turned pro at age 15. The reason? Pat thought that amateur boxing was too political, and Sean would get a fairer shake in the pros!!