Classic American West Coast Boxing

[kikibalt]

Sad news I'm afraid.

The sad news of the recent death of Danny Wildhawke11

Danny passed away on 7th May 2010 mercifully peacefully and seemingly without pain, after a 4 week struggle, his wife Rita was by his side at the time, as she had been, often day and night, for most of those weeks.

[Rick Farris]

Sad news I'm afraid.

The sad news of the recent death of Danny Wildhawke11

Danny passed away on 7th May 2010 mercifully peacefully and seemingly without pain, after a 4 week struggle, his wife Rita was by his side at the time, as she had been, often day and night, for most of those weeks.

I'm truly saddened. Rest in Peace Danny. We have lost a great friend.

[scartissue]

Sad news I'm afraid.

The sad news of the recent death of Danny Wildhawke11

Danny passed away on 7th May 2010 mercifully peacefully and seemingly without pain, after a 4 week struggle, his wife Rita was by his side at the time, as she had been, often day and night, for most of those weeks.

I'm truly saddened. Rest in Peace Danny. We have lost a great friend.

One good guy. God rest him.

Scartissue

[CNorkusJr]

IsKi -sent you a note. Thanks.

Just talked to production director-NY unit of Raging Bull DVD .
He explained " MGM made original "Raging Bull" movie (DeNiro) in 1980.
MGM folded not long ago, and Fox came in and bought out all the old MGM stuff.
Fox is rereleasing the movie "Raging Bull" with Bonus Material.
Fox hired a small LA based company- Automat Pictures to produce the Bonus Material which will include updated material and interviews with all who knew LaMotta (the real LaMotta) ". The NY director said he interviewed Martin Scorsese for this also. Remains to be seen what will be in it and whats left on cutting room floor. No estimate time for the rerelease with the extra stuff.

[Rick Farris]

Marquez vs. Vasquez/Sat. SHOWTIME . . .

A 4th fight will likely put both these guys on their heels.
Three tough ones they've had.

After their first fight, when Vasquez was stopped with a broken nose. His trainer, Freddie Roach, said Vasquez should not fight for a year to allow his body to heal. He also noted that Israel was beginning to slur his words. There were two more wars after that.

This saturday, a fourth fight. You can bet I'll watch, two real tough guys, two real fighters.


-Rick Farris

[bennie]

Sad news I'm afraid.

The sad news of the recent death of Danny Wildhawke11

Danny passed away on 7th May 2010 mercifully peacefully and seemingly without pain, after a 4 week struggle, his wife Rita was by his side at the time, as she had been, often day and night, for most of those weeks.

RIP, Danny.

[kikibalt]

Marquez vs. Vasquez/Sat. SHOWTIME . . .

A 4th fight will likely put both these guys on their heels.
Three tough ones they've had.

After their first fight, when Vasquez was stopped with a broken nose. His trainer, Freddie Roach, said Vasquez should not fight for a year to allow his body to heal. He also noted that Israel was beginning to slur his words. There were two more wars after that.

This saturday, a fourth fight. You can bet I'll watch, two real tough guys, two real fighters.


-Rick Farris

These two great action fighters don't deserve this, after the wars they had they won't be able to sit in their rocking chairs and enjoy their grandkids, Think Bobby Chacon..

[Rick Farris]

Marquez vs. Vasquez/Sat. SHOWTIME . . .

A 4th fight will likely put both these guys on their heels.
Three tough ones they've had.

After their first fight, when Vasquez was stopped with a broken nose. His trainer, Freddie Roach, said Vasquez should not fight for a year to allow his body to heal. He also noted that Israel was beginning to slur his words. There were two more wars after that.

This saturday, a fourth fight. You can bet I'll watch, two real tough guys, two real fighters.


-Rick Farris

These two great action fighters don't deserve this, after the wars they had they won't be able to sit in their rocking chairs and enjoy their grandkids, Think Bobby Chacon..

Frank . . . I do think of Bobby Chacon when I think of these two climbing thru the ropes for a fourth time.
I think of Bobby and Bazooka Limon, and their four tough fights (the last three on national TV).

Last night I watched the 2nd Vasquez-Marquez bout, which was replayed on SHOWTIME.
What a great fight, as were all three. As you said Frank, they don't deserve a fourth.
As fans, we can expect another bloody war which we'll all appreciate and praise their hearts.
As for the fighters, what is their gain?
They will gain thousands of dollars that they will never see.
Once everybody has taken their cut, expenses, etc. the fighter will get everything that comes out of the chicken's ass except the egg.

What they'll get, and probably most appreciate, is the pats on the back as they walk down the street.
That will last a few days and then everybody will be talking about Manny Pac again.

In a few years, we'll induct them into the Hall of Fame and they'll get a bronze statue and a few more pats on the back.


-Rick Farris

[raylawpc]

Marquez vs. Vasquez/Sat. SHOWTIME . . .

A 4th fight will likely put both these guys on their heels.
Three tough ones they've had.

After their first fight, when Vasquez was stopped with a broken nose. His trainer, Freddie Roach, said Vasquez should not fight for a year to allow his body to heal. He also noted that Israel was beginning to slur his words. There were two more wars after that.

This saturday, a fourth fight. You can bet I'll watch, two real tough guys, two real fighters.


-Rick Farris

These two great action fighters don't deserve this, after the wars they had they won't be able to sit in their rocking chairs and enjoy their grandkids, Think Bobby Chacon..

Smart words from a smart man. I wish there were more guys in boxing like you - then and now.

[kikibalt]

Marquez vs. Vasquez/Sat. SHOWTIME . . .

A 4th fight will likely put both these guys on their heels.
Three tough ones they've had.

After their first fight, when Vasquez was stopped with a broken nose. His trainer, Freddie Roach, said Vasquez should not fight for a year to allow his body to heal. He also noted that Israel was beginning to slur his words. There were two more wars after that.

This saturday, a fourth fight. You can bet I'll watch, two real tough guys, two real fighters.


-Rick Farris

These two great action fighters don't deserve this, after the wars they had they won't be able to sit in their rocking chairs and enjoy their grandkids, Think Bobby Chacon..

Frank . . . I do think of Bobby Chacon when I think of these two climbing thru the ropes for a fourth time.
I think of Bobby and Bazooka Limon, and their four tough fights (the last three on national TV).

Last night I watched the 2nd Vasquez-Marquez bout, which was replayed on SHOWTIME.
What a great fight, as were all three. As you said Frank, they don't deserve a fourth.
As fans, we can expect another bloody war which we'll all appreciate and praise their hearts.
As for the fighters, what is their gain?
They will gain thousands of dollars that they will never see.
Once everybody has taken their cut, expenses, etc. the fighter will get everything that comes out of the chicken's ass except the egg.

What they'll get, and probably most appreciate, is the pats on the back as they walk down the street.
That will last a couple months and then everybody will be talking about Manny Pac again.

In a few years, we'll induct them into the Hall of Fame and they'll get a bronze statue and a few more pats on the back.


-Rick Farris

What the use of having money if you are so punch-drunk that you can't count it....

[kikibalt]

Marquez vs. Vasquez/Sat. SHOWTIME . . .

A 4th fight will likely put both these guys on their heels.
Three tough ones they've had.

After their first fight, when Vasquez was stopped with a broken nose. His trainer, Freddie Roach, said Vasquez should not fight for a year to allow his body to heal. He also noted that Israel was beginning to slur his words. There were two more wars after that.

This saturday, a fourth fight. You can bet I'll watch, two real tough guys, two real fighters.


-Rick Farris

These two great action fighters don't deserve this, after the wars they had they won't be able to sit in their rocking chairs and enjoy their grandkids, Think Bobby Chacon..

Smart words from a smart man. I wish there were more guys in boxing like you - then and now.

Thanks Tom. I'm sure that you wouldn't put these kids through another war either....

[raylawpc]

These two great action fighters don't deserve this, after the wars they had they won't be able to sit in their rocking chairs and enjoy their grandkids, Think Bobby Chacon..

Smart words from a smart man. I wish there were more guys in boxing like you - then and now.

Thanks Tom. I'm sure that you wouldn't put these kids through another war either....

No, I wouldn't, but lots of people would. Howard Cosell said that if he ever had a son who wanted to be a boxer, he would want Angelo Dundee to manage him. Uh uh. Not me. I would have wanted you. You have your priorities right, and I wouldn't worry that you would protect my boy - from others and from himself.

[Rick Farris]

Frank . . . Do you remember a manager named Charlie Gregoli?

[kikibalt]

Frank . . . Do you remember a manager named Charlie Gregoli?

Vaguely....

[kikibalt]

Smart words from a smart man. I wish there were more guys in boxing like you - then and now.

Thanks Tom. I'm sure that you wouldn't put these kids through another war either....

No, I wouldn't, but lots of people would. Howard Cosell said that if he ever had a son who wanted to be a boxer, he would want Angelo Dundee to manage him. Uh uh. Not me. I would have wanted you. You have your priorities right, and I wouldn't worry that you would protect my boy - from others and from himself.

Tomas, thank you for your kind words....

[Rick Farris]

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[raylawpc]

Parachute Training

While attending US Army's Airborne School.....

The Day before our first jump, the instructors (known as SGT Airbornes, students are called 'Airborne') demonstrated all the possible malfunctions one might encounter.

After watching a total malfunction, i.e. the parachute fails to deploy, one of the students asked: "SGT Airborne, if we have a complete malfunction, how much time do we have to deploy our reserve parachutes?"

"Airborne, you have the REST of your life to deploy that reserve!"

[Rick Farris]

Parachute Training

While attending US Army's Airborne School.....

The Day before our first jump, the instructors (known as SGT Airbornes, students are called 'Airborne') demonstrated all the possible malfunctions one might encounter.

After watching a total malfunction, i.e. the parachute fails to deploy, one of the students asked: "SGT Airborne, if we have a complete malfunction, how much time do we have to deploy our reserve parachutes?"

"Airborne, you have the REST of your life to deploy that reserve!"

[Rick Farris]

Once And Four All
Vazquez-Marquez

By Rocco Morales



Wednesday afternoon, the Conga Room in Downtown L.A. was host to the final press conference for “Once and Four All” the appropriate name given to the highly anticipated fourth fight between Israel Vasquez (44-4-0) and Rafael Marquez (38-5-0). Of their three prior fights, Marquez was victorious in the first fight while Vasquez has won the prior two meetings. Their last fight was the only one to go to the scorecards and Vasquez was the split decision winner.

Their last two fights were all out wars that earned the accolade of “Fight Of The Year” for each 2007 and 2008.
Since their last meeting that took place in March 2008, both fighters have understandably taken some much needed time off and have each fought just once since. In his last fight, nearly a year ago, Marquez wiped out fringe contender, Jose Mendoza, who came into the fight with a very respectable record of 21-2-2, only to be knocked out by Marquez in the third round.

Meanwhile, last October, Vasquez fought one time world title challenger, Angel Priolo, who despite a respectable record of 30-7 at the time of their fight, came into the fight riding a six fight losing streak, five of those losses by way of knockout. Vasquez had his hands full with Priolo who lasted into the ninth round before getting knocked out. At the time of the stoppage, Vasquez and Priolo were all even on two of the three judges scorecards.

Each fighter appeared confident when taking the podium to address the assembled media. Both fighters were brief in their commentary and instead seemed more content to let their fists do the talking Saturday night.

Marquez said, “There’s no need for words of introduction for Vasquez and I. Everyone knows us from our trilogy of fights. You’re going to see a great show and who Rafael Marquez is this Saturday night.”

Vasquez followed and said, “On May 22nd, Rafael Marquez and I are going to again fight the best fight of the year.”

In addition to each fighter speaking, the managers and promoters of each fighter also addressed the media.

Gary Shaw, the promoter for Rafael Marquez, had the following to say. “Israel Vasquez and Rafael Marquez don’t shit talk and have a mutual respect for each other but when the bell rings they are there to fight.”

Richard Schaeffer, CEO of Golden Boy Promotions, promoter of Israel Vasquez, said “Israel Vasquez brings to the table an outstanding record of 44 – 4 which in today’s world of boxing is an incredible record. Vasquez is also a three time world champion and took this fight even though he already has a 2 – 1 record against Marquez. Even though he brings a 2 – 1 record to this fight, on May 22nd he will put any doubt to rest by, again, defeating Marquez.”

Fernando Beltran, manager of Rafael Marquez, said “I really that it is a big fight that allows for a rematch and a great rematch that allows for a trilogy. But this fight, the fourth between Marquez and Vasquez, is going to be a grand slam.”

Frank Espinoza, manager of Israel Vasquez, said “This trilogy will be remembered as the greatest of all time. They both refuse to take a step back as their pride, hunger and determination will not allow for it. Both realize that no one ever achieves greatness by playing it safe.”

In a semi-main event that threatens to steal the show, undefeated IBF bantamweight champion, Yohnny Perez (20-0, 14ko) makes the first defense of his belt against friend and undefeated challenger Abner Mares (20-0, 13ko).

Perez, on the road to the championship, first had to travel to South Africa to win an IBF title elimimator against tough Silence Mabuza, who, coincidentally, had only lost to Rafael Marquez. By 12th round TKO, Perez stopped Mabuza and five months later, last October, Perez faced Vic Darchinyan conqueror, Joseph “King Kong” Agbeko. Although Agbeko was dominant in his fight against Darchinyan, it was Perez who, in turn, dominated Agbeko and left no doubt in the mind of the judges as he took Agbeko’s IBF bantamweight title by a wide margined unanimous decision victory.

Mares, although very promising so far in his career, has yet to face anyone of the caliber of Mabuza or Agbeko. Mares does, however, enter his fight title challenge fresh off three consecutive knockout victories and is the younger fighter at 24 years old compared to Perez being 31 years old.

Both Mares and Perez also addressed the media.

Mares, appearing happy go lucky as he took the podium said, “Yohnny is a great friend but on May 22nd, I am going to treat him like a friend who just stole my girlfriend. Abner Mares vs. Yohnny Perez is going to steal the show this Saturday night.”

Perez, draped with his IBF bantamweight championship belt, exuded a quiet confidence as he took the podium. “It is a great responsibility to be fighting and to be defending my belt. But, this belt doesn’t really belong to me because I gave it to my kids back in Colombia. I brought the belt back from Colombia, borrowing it from my kids. But, what you give to your kids, you don’t take away from them and that is why after May 22nd I am taking the belt back to Colombia to my kids.”

“Once and Four All” unfolds on Saturday, May 22, at STAPLES Center in Los Angeles, live on SHOWTIME at 9 p.m. EST/PST (delayed on the west coast). Doors open at 2:55 p.m. with the first fight scheduled for 3pm PST and the televised portion scheduled for 6pm PST.

The historic doubleheader is co-promoted by Golden Boy Promotions, Gary Shaw Productions, Espinoza Boxing Promotions and Zanfer Promotions and sponsored by Cerveza Tecate. Tickets, priced at $250, $125, $75, $50 and $25 are available online at ticketmaster.com, via Ticketmaster charge-by-phone lines at (800)745-3000. Tickets are also available at the STAPLES Center Box Office.

[THEHAMMER321]

Smart words from a smart man. I wish there were more guys in boxing like you - then and now.

Thanks Tom. I'm sure that you wouldn't put these kids through another war either....

No, I wouldn't, but lots of people would. Howard Cosell said that if he ever had a son who wanted to be a boxer, he would want Angelo Dundee to manage him. Uh uh. Not me. I would have wanted you. You have your priorities right, and I wouldn't worry that you would protect my boy - from others and from himself.

These guys remind me of what an old time trainer told me in regards to fighters who ''duck'' someone, he said ''fighters don't duck other fighters they have to much pride and ego they think they could beat king kong'', ''trainers and managers on the other hand are the ones who steer there fighters away from certain fighters''

[raylawpc]

Charlie Norkus nostalgia . . .

I'm about to check out Charlie Norkus on DVD.
Hurricane Jackson, Charlie Powell and Ceasr Brion are a few of the opponents he'll fight.

There is a photo, however, taken in 1959, of Charlie Norkus Jr. in the arms of his father, his mother next to them along with former world champ, Barney Ross. Ross is making a face at junior, a classic photograph.

It's part of the Norkus Boxrec bio.

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Human:10363

It looks like Barney Ross is trying to kiss him. Now we know who Bobby Chacon got it from . . .

[raylawpc]

For Frank (and Johnny, and Mel, and Howie, and Angelo, and Eddie, and Freddie, and . . . ):

Here we were walking down the aisle toward the ring. Man, was I nervous! After all the hard work with the boxing club, the big moment had finally arrived. Victory, I thought, meant a trip to the state finals and defeat means more hard work until another big chance comes along. We climbed the stairs to the ring and I easily slid my skinny frame through the ropes and stood there gaping at the opponent. Good Gosh! He looked like King Kong in a man suit! Man, I wasn’t nervous anymore – I was scared stiff! The bright lights gave off too much heat and I began to sweat. I wanted to get out of that ring and fast. The announcer sang out the two fighter’s names and weights and the referee called us to the center of the ring for the instructions. All of a sudden, the bell rang and my hair stood up on end. The big brute advanced from the other side of the ring. I slid carefully through the ropes and perched outside the ring. Man, I’m glad I’m just the trainer. I’d sure hate to have to fight that monster!

[Rick Farris]

Charlie Norkus nostalgia . . .

I'm about to check out Charlie Norkus on DVD.
Hurricane Jackson, Charlie Powell and Ceasr Brion are a few of the opponents he'll fight.

There is a photo, however, taken in 1959, of Charlie Norkus Jr. in the arms of his father, his mother next to them along with former world champ, Barney Ross. Ross is making a face at junior, a classic photograph.

It's part of the Norkus Boxrec bio.

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Human:10363

It looks like Barney Ross is trying to kiss him. Now we know who Bobby Chacon got it from . . .

Yeah Tom, you gotta move pretty quick to duck Bobby's kiss on the cheek.
Until a few years back, I hadn't seen Bobby in decades. Both Mando Ramos & Frankie Duarte warned me about Bobby.
I forgot to duck and Bobby nailed me.

[Rick Farris]

For Frank (and Johnny, and Mel, and Howie, and Angelo, and Eddie, and Freddie, and . . . ):

Here we were walking down the aisle toward the ring. Man, was I nervous! After all the hard work with the boxing club, the big moment had finally arrived. Victory, I thought, meant a trip to the state finals and defeat means more hard work until another big chance comes along. We climbed the stairs to the ring and I easily slid my skinny frame through the ropes and stood there gaping at the opponent. Good Gosh! He looked like King Kong in a man suit! Man, I wasn’t nervous anymore – I was scared stiff! The bright lights gave off too much heat and I began to sweat. I wanted to get out of that ring and fast. The announcer sang out the two fighter’s names and weights and the referee called us to the center of the ring for the instructions. All of a sudden, the bell rang and my hair stood up on end. The big brute advanced from the other side of the ring. I slid carefully through the ropes and perched outside the ring. Man, I’m glad I’m just the trainer. I’d sure hate to have to fight that monster!

[THEHAMMER321]

Anybody know how long Jimmy Lennon Sr. was the ring announcer at the Olympic, and who was the announcer before him.