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Re: Hull bill rbr

Posted: 22 Feb 2014, 20:01
by lefty
Mitchell will knock Coyle out cold.

Re: Hull bill rbr

Posted: 22 Feb 2014, 20:01
by ShadrachSimmo
Gray your a fuckin piece of shit the man was ok.

Coyle well done but You will be ko'd next fight.

Re: Hull bill rbr

Posted: 22 Feb 2014, 20:01
by expe
columbo wrote:How did coyle win the round with a knockdown a piece and a point deduced off of coyle?!
Coyle had him down twice, but that's twice Watt's showed he doesn't know how to score a fight, he gave the 8th 10-9 Coyle, because he decided that the KD and points deduction cancel each other out, when in reality it should be scored 10(-1)-8, and the 11th should have been scored the same, 2 of the KDs cancel each other out, but Coyle's extra KD and the points deduction make it 10(-1)-8 again.

Re: Hull bill rbr

Posted: 22 Feb 2014, 20:01
by smoothmoves
Ruined a potential classic

Re: Hull bill rbr

Posted: 22 Feb 2014, 20:01
by palooka
Kosei Tanaka was thrown in with a world ranked guy on debut (and will fight another in his second contest), Tanaka is an 18 year old.
Takuma Inoue is said to be fighting a world ranked opponent in his second fight, he's an 18 year old
Masayoshi Nakatani claimed the OPBF title in fight #7, he's 24 and fighting at 135

I doubt you'd argue those guys have the talent of Rigondeux, and I'd be shocked if you're going to say Ohashi and Ioka don't know how to promote manage and train fighters...[/quote]

The Japanese and Thai system is very different to the British one, (I'm not an expert on anything so couldn't begin to say why).

Re: Hull bill rbr

Posted: 22 Feb 2014, 20:02
by mickey1975
columbo wrote:British refs are a joke
I thought Gray was very generous letting him carry on after the second knockdown in the eleventh.

Re: Hull bill rbr

Posted: 22 Feb 2014, 20:02
by ShadrachSimmo
fornicate you jim watt ya senile c@nt.

Re: Hull bill rbr

Posted: 22 Feb 2014, 20:03
by palooka
columbo wrote:Mitchell will knock Coyle out cold.
:TU: inside 3 rounds, Kevin has real power.

Re: Hull bill rbr

Posted: 22 Feb 2014, 20:03
by lefty
expe wrote:
columbo wrote:How did coyle win the round with a knockdown a piece and a point deduced off of coyle?!
Coyle had him down twice, but that's twice Watt's showed he doesn't know how to score a fight, he gave the 8th 10-9 Coyle, because he decided that the KD and points deduction cancel each other out, when in reality it should be scored 10(-1)-8, and the 11th should have been scored the same, 2 of the KDs cancel each other out, but Coyle's extra KD and the points deduction make it 10(-1)-8 again.
There was so many knockdowns ive lost track clearly!

Re: Hull bill rbr

Posted: 22 Feb 2014, 20:04
by lefty
palooka wrote:
columbo wrote:Mitchell will knock Coyle out cold.
:TU: inside 3 rounds, Kevin has real power.
This guy tonight wasnt even a puncher either!

Re: Hull bill rbr

Posted: 22 Feb 2014, 20:04
by SNG
Boxing Prospect wrote:
Kosei Tanaka was thrown in with a world ranked guy on debut (and will fight another in his second contest), Tanaka is an 18 year old.
Takuma Inoue is said to be fighting a world ranked opponent in his second fight, he's an 18 year old
Masayoshi Nakatani claimed the OPBF title in fight #7, he's 24 and fighting at 135

I doubt you'd argue those guys have the talent of Rigondeux, and I'd be shocked if you're going to say Ohashi and Ioka don't know how to promote manage and train fighters...
I'll be honest, I've never heard of him, or the opponent, should I have done? But do you honestly believe they'd throw him in there in his first fight if they didn't think he could win?

Re: Hull bill rbr

Posted: 22 Feb 2014, 20:04
by gazza8
Absolute joke of a stoppage!

good fight but coyle has found his level, Mitchell will demolish him

Re: Hull bill rbr

Posted: 22 Feb 2014, 20:04
by ThereByTheGrace
palooka wrote:
columbo wrote:Mitchell will knock Coyle out cold.
:TU: inside 3 rounds, Kevin has real power.
Coyle has heart, Mitchell does not. I would not be so sure

Re: Hull bill rbr

Posted: 22 Feb 2014, 20:05
by expe
mickey1975 wrote:
columbo wrote:British refs are a joke
I thought Gray was very generous letting him carry on after the second knockdown in the eleventh.
If he stopped him in the 11th, he should have stopped Coyle in the 6th and based on the stoppage in the 12th, Coyle should have been waved off after the first knockdown in the 6th. Tonight has proved Coyle's going nowhere though, glass jaw, 2 dodgy stoppages in a row, weak to the body and he's not that good anyway, Mitchell will absolutely paste him.

Re: Hull bill rbr

Posted: 22 Feb 2014, 20:05
by lefty
Respect to Coyle for saying that Brizuela deserved to go on.

Re: Hull bill rbr

Posted: 22 Feb 2014, 20:05
by lefty
expe wrote:
mickey1975 wrote:
columbo wrote:British refs are a joke
I thought Gray was very generous letting him carry on after the second knockdown in the eleventh.
If he stopped him in the 11th, he should have stopped Coyle in the 6th and based on the stoppage in the 12th, Coyle should have been waved off after the first knockdown in the 6th. Tonight has proved Coyle's going nowhere though, glass jaw, 2 dodgy stoppages in a row, weak to the body and he's not that good anyway, Mitchell will absolutely paste him.
Exactly.

Re: Hull bill rbr

Posted: 22 Feb 2014, 20:06
by expe
columbo wrote:
expe wrote:
columbo wrote:How did coyle win the round with a knockdown a piece and a point deduced off of coyle?!
Coyle had him down twice, but that's twice Watt's showed he doesn't know how to score a fight, he gave the 8th 10-9 Coyle, because he decided that the KD and points deduction cancel each other out, when in reality it should be scored 10(-1)-8, and the 11th should have been scored the same, 2 of the KDs cancel each other out, but Coyle's extra KD and the points deduction make it 10(-1)-8 again.
There was so many knockdowns ive lost track clearly!
Both men down 4 times, 3 point deductions (I didn't count Brizuela's on my card), left it at 102-101 Brizuela going into the last, they would have robbed him on the cards anyway.

Re: Hull bill rbr

Posted: 22 Feb 2014, 20:06
by Boxing Prospect
palooka wrote: The Japanese and Thai system is very different to the British one, (I'm not an expert on anything so couldn't begin to say why).
It's different because promoters realise a loss isn't the end of the world (look at Ryosuke Iwasa as a great example, or Keita Obara). Our own promoters should realise that given the likes of Ricky Burns and Jamie McDonnell having losses on their record.

They also believe that if their fighters have the talent then they don't need to waste time in fights that have no purpose (the Thai system is different). Mr Ohashi was fast tracked himself and knows that if a fighter wants to be fast tracked and has the skill he shouldn't stop them, that's why the Inoue brothers have both signed with him and both shown real ambition to be champions in double quick fashion.

In Thailand many fighters fight regularly (Srisaket fought 7 times last year) as they get paid relative peanuts so need to be active. A lot of those fights though are mismatches to stay busy and get a small payment between bigger fights.

Re: Hull bill rbr

Posted: 22 Feb 2014, 20:07
by palooka
Coyle has heart alright, he's more bottle than skill or sense - Mitchell hits too clean for him.

Re: Hull bill rbr

Posted: 22 Feb 2014, 20:07
by lefty
ThereByTheGrace wrote:
palooka wrote:
columbo wrote:Mitchell will knock Coyle out cold.
:TU: inside 3 rounds, Kevin has real power.
Coyle has heart, Mitchell does not. I would not be so sure
Mitchell also has power which Brizula doesnt have.

Re: Hull bill rbr

Posted: 22 Feb 2014, 20:07
by lefty
Who else would rather see Mitchell vs Crolla?

Re: Hull bill rbr

Posted: 22 Feb 2014, 20:08
by expe
ThereByTheGrace wrote:
palooka wrote:
columbo wrote:Mitchell will knock Coyle out cold.
:TU: inside 3 rounds, Kevin has real power.
Coyle has heart, Mitchell does not. I would not be so sure
Bit unfair that, he was a mess for the Katsidis fight and the left hook Burns hit him with would have done almost every lightweight in the world. He wouldn't really need heart against Coyle anyway, heart's needed for a war, he'd beat Coyle up.

Re: Hull bill rbr

Posted: 22 Feb 2014, 20:08
by reggaereggae
that was tremendous..............

Re: Hull bill rbr

Posted: 22 Feb 2014, 20:08
by ShadrachSimmo
ThereByTheGrace wrote:
palooka wrote:
columbo wrote:Mitchell will knock Coyle out cold.
:TU: inside 3 rounds, Kevin has real power.
Coyle has heart, Mitchell does not. I would not be so sure
You think Coyle has the attributes to beat Mitchell?

Can't see heart being a factor....

Re: Hull bill rbr

Posted: 22 Feb 2014, 20:08
by expe
columbo wrote:Who else would rather see Mitchell vs Crolla?
There's that many fighters about it's hard to say who should fight who, all I'll say is that none of them deserve a world title fight and none will ever be world class.