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Autobarn wrote:are some of you really going with the old, "he was doing well until he got knocked out" cliché for groves?

Aye, but that doesn't mean we think Groves was gypped. If Groves could do it, several others have a chance.

Trojans44 wrote:I thought Froch was winning though not as far ahead as Watt had him and he wasn't dominating. Groves just wasn't doing anything until round 7. Froch boxed very well and when Groves opened up he executed him. Brilliant performance by a truly great champion.

Those joyless souls among you who can't appreciate what Froch did tonight need to really ask yourself why you follow boxing.

LOL

What is with these types of posters and Froch? If we didn't really appreciate his performance we should question why we follow boxing?

Great KO, but hardly a brilliant performance all-round.

Trojans44 wrote:I thought Froch was winning though not as far ahead as Watt had him and he wasn't dominating. Groves just wasn't doing anything until round 7. Froch boxed very well and when Groves opened up he executed him. Brilliant performance by a truly great champion.

Those joyless souls among you who can't appreciate what Froch did tonight need to really ask yourself why you follow boxing.

X2

I wanted Groves to win but Froch was the master all along. You shouldn't try and pretend.

DMMA wrote:If the floor wasn't there he'd still be falling.

I hope that's not a saying.

DMMA wrote:

Trojans44 wrote:
Those joyless souls among you who can't appreciate what Froch did tonight need to really ask yourself why you follow boxing.

As they say, "this". What's it people say about never appreciating something until it's gone?

How many British fighters have a record like Froch's?

x10000

Was Sauerland raised over here? Never realised he had an English accent

2 of the judges had Froch winning.
Booth had Froch by 1 or 2, said Groves got hit with stuff he didn't used to!

The ref stopped him from getting up!

Deserter wrote:

DMMA wrote:

Trojans44 wrote:
Those joyless souls among you who can't appreciate what Froch did tonight need to really ask yourself why you follow boxing.

As they say, "this". What's it people say about never appreciating something until it's gone?

How many British fighters have a record like Froch's?

x2. Modern British great. Has fought everyone, everywhere. True warrior.

Someone will crop up and point out that he 'only did that because he had to'

Seriously though, he can't be knocked. People pay down his actual ability but surely that elevates his achievements even more? You hear things like flat footed, clumsy, slow, crude, when it comes to Carl but he has some great wins over some top fighters. The best way to describe Carl is awkward. He must be a nightmare to fight.

danconnollyeire wrote:Was Sauerland raised over here? Never realised he had an English accent

both the sons grew up in London

Coco wrote:The ref stopped him from getting up!

Yet when he was up he was more wibbly wobbly than a man with 12 pints in him

danconnollyeire wrote:Was Sauerland raised over here? Never realised he had an English accent

Apparently went through school over here yeah.

De Gale is such a knob. That punch would've knocked anybody out it landed on, nothing to do with Groves chin.

ttornado wrote:

danconnollyeire wrote:Was Sauerland raised over here? Never realised he had an English accent

both the sons grew up in London

Cheers! Just assumed was a 'forgener' it's nice in a way someone who grew up over here is doing well abroad

DMMA wrote:

Trojans44 wrote:
Those joyless souls among you who can't appreciate what Froch did tonight need to really ask yourself why you follow boxing.

As they say, "this". What's it people say about never appreciating something until it's gone?

How many British fighters have a record like Froch's?

I'll be delighted when he's gone, he's had a good career, but the day Sky shut up about him and that nose is no longer on my telly will be a good one. Tough as they come, got to respect the way he's taken on all comers, but I've never liked him and never will.

If Ward Froch II is for an unlimited number of rounds AND Ward can only clinch ONCE each round then my money is on Froch.

Autobarn,

My thing is not about not giving Froch credit, it is the loving in that Sky is giving Froch throughout the fight and post fight and what we will get for the next few months.

However, if you look back to this forum 6 months ago, there were posters claiming that Sky were not giving Froch his due. So maybe Sky/Watt etc are over compensating for it.

It was an evenly matched contest up until the KO. Groves is still largely unproven at world level (Froch's words).

Ian1973 wrote:De Gale is such a knob. That punch would've knocked anybody out it landed on, nothing to do with Groves chin.

Yep... Lewis had a decent chin, took some fierce shots in his career yet Rahmann blew him out. That shot would knock Froch himself out

crusader wrote:

Trojans44 wrote:I thought Froch was winning though not as far ahead as Watt had him and he wasn't dominating. Groves just wasn't doing anything until round 7. Froch boxed very well and when Groves opened up he executed him. Brilliant performance by a truly great champion.

Those joyless souls among you who can't appreciate what Froch did tonight need to really ask yourself why you follow boxing.

LOL

What is with these types of posters and Froch? If we didn't really appreciate his performance we should question why we follow boxing?

Great KO, but hardly a brilliant performance all-round.

if you actually took time to read some of my other posts you'll see I'm a long standing Froch sceptic. But I have to hold my hands up and say the guy is simply incredible. I follow boxing to appreciate not just great skills but great champions and he is certainly one of those.

expe wrote:

DMMA wrote:

Trojans44 wrote:
Those joyless souls among you who can't appreciate what Froch did tonight need to really ask yourself why you follow boxing.

As they say, "this". What's it people say about never appreciating something until it's gone?

How many British fighters have a record like Froch's?

I'll be delighted when he's gone, he's had a good career, but the day Sky shut up about him and that nose is no longer on my telly will be a good one. Tough as they come, got to respect the way he's taken on all comers, but I've never liked him and never will.

Don't worry he wouldn't have won a round against Calzaghe and he wouldn't have stopped him either.

That should please you a bit. D

Froch won it fair and square this time.

He'd beat DeGale as well.

Taansend wrote:If Ward Froch II is for an unlimited number of rounds AND Ward can only clinch ONCE each round then my money is on Froch.

Froch beats Ward in a 15 rounder. However, fights don't last 15 rounds these days so I've just made a totally stupid and pointless comment.

expe wrote:

DMMA wrote:

Trojans44 wrote:
Those joyless souls among you who can't appreciate what Froch did tonight need to really ask yourself why you follow boxing.

As they say, "this". What's it people say about never appreciating something until it's gone?

How many British fighters have a record like Froch's?

I'll be delighted when he's gone, he's had a good career, but the day Sky shut up about him and that nose is no longer on my telly will be a good one. Tough as they come, got to respect the way he's taken on all comers, but I've never liked him and never will.

I think we get that.

ILikeBeer wrote:Froch won it fair and square this time.

He'd beat DeGale as well.

Degale leans on the ropes, which is perfect for froch. Groves does the opposite, which is why he has had some success

stujones wrote:Autobarn,

My thing is not about not giving Froch credit, it is the loving in that Sky is giving Froch throughout the fight and post fight and what we will get for the next few months.

However, if you look back to this forum 6 months ago, there were posters claiming that Sky were not giving Froch his due. So maybe Sky/Watt etc are over compensating for it.

It was an evenly matched contest up until the KO. Groves is still largely unproven at world level (Froch's words).

I think Watt overcompensated. Almost to such a point I believe someone had a stiff word with him.

Sky have done this with World champs coming to the end of their careers since I'v been watching boxing tho, and Carl's just next on that list to get the hero treatment.