Birmingham and Texas discussion thread

[ShadrachSimmo]

As close as it was and with 2 points off can anyone honestly say Burns deserved anything other than a loss?

Yes.

Elaborate.

[Horse]

Elaborate.

I scored it for Burns, so I obviously disagree. Others did the same.

[ShadrachSimmo]

Elaborate.

I scored it for Burns, so I obviously disagree. Others did the same.

So you had Burns by how many?

[Horse]

So you had Burns by how many?

115-113 Burns

[crusader]

Haven't seen the fight but Laurence Cole is one of the worst high-profile refs in the sport,.

[handsofstone]

I scored it 114-113 Figueroa, It was a hard fight to watch with all the spoiling and that ref shouldn't be allowed near a ring again,I was hoping he'd take a point of Burns earlier just so Ricky would stick to boxing as he was clearly a better technician than Omar but Burns stooped to his level I thought and he was the worst offender although both were at it,effing pulling arms from the ref,great to see Burns perform again though

Great to see Eggington win the Commonwealth too,Lampey was piss poor but Sam looked good for the most part but the ref stepped in a touch early

Joshua,Campbell,Smith,Macklin and Yafai fights were what they were

[palooka]

The ref had his eyes on Burns all night, it was a crude battle and both were guilty of infringements, I felt the ref took the second point to 'make sure'. I thought Ricky was well in it, the cards were a joke but the fight itself showed Ricky still has a career at high level, he'll be stronger next time out. Omar Fig will get caught out, he trades on hiis youth and vitality and though he's very tough Crawford would demolish him.

Well done Ricky, a long way from home, he's got bottle alright.

[Andrew]

it wasn't day light robbery just the way the scoring goes. but you could of scored burns to win that fight ,and i don't think figueroa could of moaned. i thought figueroa nicked it due to the points deductions

As close as it was and with 2 points off can anyone honestly say Burns deserved anything other than a loss?

Figueroas been exposed as a fat no use bastard tonight to a degree. Is he honestly going upto welter? Oh dear.

Figueroa would get smashed at welterweight by the likes of Porter Thurman Maidana IMO

[zero]

The ref had his eyes on Burns all night, it was a crude battle and both were guilty of infringements, I felt the ref took the second point to 'make sure'. I thought Ricky was well in it, the cards were a joke but the fight itself showed Ricky still has a career at high level, he'll be stronger next time out. Omar Fig will get caught out, he trades on hiis youth and vitality and though he's very tough Crawford would demolish him.

Well done Ricky, a long way from home, he's got bottle alright.

You hit the nail on the head the second point deduction was just making sure IMO.

Ricky Burns deserves massive plaudits for last night he was fighting a crude overweight junior welter who seemed to just bore in with his head. When Burns managed to box behind the jab he looked good, lateral movement is required when being pushed back from Burns, he just uses unnecessary energy constantly fighting on ropes and he doesn't have the power or skills to do it effectively.

[ALI]

The ref had his eyes on Burns all night, it was a crude battle and both were guilty of infringements, I felt the ref took the second point to 'make sure'. I thought Ricky was well in it, the cards were a joke but the fight itself showed Ricky still has a career at high level, he'll be stronger next time out. Omar Fig will get caught out, he trades on hiis youth and vitality and though he's very tough Crawford would demolish him.

Well done Ricky, a long way from home, he's got bottle alright.

You hit the nail on the head the second point deduction was just making sure IMO

Agreed, the question is, who bought/influenced the ref?

His bias was so blatant he should never be allowed near a boxing ring ever again. My guess is he will walk away scot free and soon be in a position to do the same all over again to some other poor guy fighting his heart out.

[Boxerbeetle]

Must admit I've lost track of what fights we're supposed to be discussing on this thread, but Canelo v Kirkland was effing awesome! Surprised so many Yanks rate Kirkland highly, he's clearly incredibly chinny & has terrible defence so was always likely to be ko'd early against an accurate opponent like Alvarez, but was really entertaining whilst it lasted.

[zero]

@ ALI

Laurence Cole has his on thread on the current scene.

[ShadrachSimmo]

Must admit I've lost track of what fights we're supposed to be discussing on this thread, but Canelo v Kirkland was effing awesome! Surprised so many Yanks rate Kirkland highly, he's clearly incredibly chinny & has terrible defence so was always likely to be ko'd early against an accurate opponent like Alvarez, but was really entertaining whilst it lasted.

It certainly was. Kirkland was absolutely made for Alvarez and the finish was devastating.

He's never in many dull fights Alvarez hopefully the Cotto fight comes off.

[Emmseegee]

Alvarez looked great last night. The two styles gelled to make Alvarez look at his best and that counter uppercut was as good a punch as you will see.

[Finn]

The burns fight was a hard one to call I had a similar card and the same score as Jim watts which I believe was burns losing by two.

The ref was shocking. The rounds were so scrappy but when I heard the results I though "home town scoring" but it was irrelevant because I thought burns was just edged out.

[palooka]

It maybe was irrelevant Finn as Omar was very energetic but each judge must have given Figueroa every close round, - Burns was railroaded in a close fight and the ref was a cheat.

[Finn]

It maybe was irrelevant Finn as Omar was very energetic but each judge must have given Figueroa every close round, - Burns was railroaded in a close fight and the ref was a cheat.

I agree but in terms of his career prospects.... He won big last night.

[palooka]

It maybe was irrelevant Finn as Omar was very energetic but each judge must have given Figueroa every close round, - Burns was railroaded in a close fight and the ref was a cheat.

I agree but in terms of his career prospects.... He won big last night.

I was really pleased with how resilient Ricky was and he certainly showed he has a few good fights on him yet. Crawford is another level and Beltran looked destructive last week, Ricky is in the mix and belongs among the top fighters.

[handsofstone]

It maybe was irrelevant Finn as Omar was very energetic but each judge must have given Figueroa every close round, - Burns was railroaded in a close fight and the ref was a cheat.

I agree but in terms of his career prospects.... He won big last night.

I was really pleased with how resilient Ricky was and he certainly showed he has a few good fights on him yet. Crawford is another level and Beltran looked destructive last week, Ricky is in the mix and belongs among the top fighters.

In the scheme of things it looks as if Burns actually did well against Crawford

[GreenLightning]

He has had a fair few home decisions in the past .

One draw....what are these other home town decisions ricky has had?

[Emmseegee]

I think a lot of people seem to have Gonzalez quitting on his stool in their mind as if it wasn't a merited victory.
Beltran however was robbed.