BoxRec

Horse wrote:

Mr Icaman wrote:If his power was as good as the hype train make out he should have got the ko. Wilder gave him everything and it took 10 rounds to get a tko. This guy wasn't a top 30 heavyweight.

Duhaupas is a top 30 heavyweight.

Nope. He deserves to be, but BoxRec has him at slot 34.

x2x wrote:

Horse wrote:

Mr Icaman wrote:If his power was as good as the hype train make out he should have got the ko. Wilder gave him everything and it took 10 rounds to get a tko. This guy wasn't a top 30 heavyweight.

Duhaupas is a top 30 heavyweight.

Nope. He deserves to be, but BoxRec has him at slot 34.

I love how everyone bitches about Boxrec ratings.
But they use them to prove their point.

tiny_acres wrote:...
I love how everyone bitches about Boxrec ratings.
But they use them to prove their point.

Everyone?

x2x wrote:

tiny_acres wrote:...
I love how everyone bitches about Boxrec ratings.
But they use them to prove their point.

Everyone?

I will correct this and say the vast majority.

Duhapas is BoxRec #40 at heavyweight, and that seems correct to me.

He's durable and has lots of heart, but he lacks power, his footwork is poor and he doesn't seem to be able to throw combinations.

SOOO..........when Wilder . "steps up" , and fights Wach , Pianaeta , Leapai , Mormeck , Old tony thompson...........then will you swing from his nuts---like you do Clinch-co's sack ????? Is that better opposition for ya ??

Ha....even one of the guys you cherry-picked from Wlad's record beat Deontay's last opponent, who was also one of his best opponents.

493dart wrote:SOOO........when Wilder . "steps up" , and fights Wach , Pianaeta , Leapai , Mormeck , Old tony thompson...........then will you swing from his nuts---like you do Clinch-co's sack ????? Is that better opposition for ya ??

Either Wach orThompson would be a big step up from his last two opponents, in fact, neither would be considered a big underdog.
I like Deontay and don't think he is a bad fighter at all, but he seems more interested in padding his record and making some easy money than proving himself against the best.

Was I the only one that was impressed with Wilder Saturday night? I know that this was a turkey shoot type fight and Duhaupas didn't even try to block a punch but there's something to be said about winning this type of fight. Duhaupas just kept coming and didn't stop throwing bombs back at Wilder. You've got to be in great shape to go 11 rounds with that kind of pace. Wilder never slowed down and the 11th round looked like the 1st aside from the carnage on both guys faces.

I think Wilder will be a tough out for any heavyweight in the world right now and his jab is getting better every fight. We just might have something with this kid.

caldo2025 wrote:Was I the only one that was impressed with Wilder Saturday night? I know that this was a turkey shoot type fight and Duhaupas didn't even try to block a punch but there's something to be said about winning this type of fight. Duhaupas just kept coming and didn't stop throwing bombs back at Wilder. You've got to be in great shape to go 11 rounds with that kind of pace. Wilder never slowed down and the 11th round looked like the 1st aside from the carnage on both guys faces.

I think Wilder will be a tough out for any heavyweight in the world right now and his jab is getting better every fight. We just might have something with this kid.

Appreciate the fact that someone else noticed Wilder's fantastic conditioning. Sure, Wilder would be an underdog against Wlad, but Wlad couldn't possibly fight at the pace Wilder did, and Wlad would know better than to try.

Wilder had a fire hydrant in front of him for 11 rounds...the guy punched back and if Wilder hadn't been in top shape he could have been in trouble. I said before he is the closest thing I've seen compared to the heavies of the 70's era.....interesting.

493dart wrote:SOOO..........when Wilder . "steps up" , and fights Wach , Pianaeta

Pianeta beat Duhaupas. Wach is a fringe contender and a bit taller than Wilder. Arreola beat Molina (by KO 1).

Tony1244 wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:Was I the only one that was impressed with Wilder Saturday night? I know that this was a turkey shoot type fight and Duhaupas didn't even try to block a punch but there's something to be said about winning this type of fight. Duhaupas just kept coming and didn't stop throwing bombs back at Wilder. You've got to be in great shape to go 11 rounds with that kind of pace. Wilder never slowed down and the 11th round looked like the 1st aside from the carnage on both guys faces.

I think Wilder will be a tough out for any heavyweight in the world right now and his jab is getting better every fight. We just might have something with this kid.

Appreciate the fact that someone else noticed Wilder's fantastic conditioning. Sure, Wilder would be an underdog against Wlad, but Wlad couldn't possibly fight at the pace Wilder did, and Wlad would know better than to try.

Right? I can't remember the last time I saw a heavyweight throwing those types of 5-7 punch combinations that late in a fight. Duhaupas was no joke. I actually loved the fight to be honest. For a one sided affair, I thought it was very entertaining.

For me, personally, Duhaupas wasn't even a top 50 man.... coming off a loss, and getting a title shot.... no offense to him whatsoever, he was the star of that fight (imho) but let's face it... Let's call a spade a spade and be done with it... Molina was bad enough, this was far worse... In the entire history of MQ boxing I can only think of maybe one or two matches (championships) where someone with less credability fought for a title and the first to come to mind is Pete Rademacher fighting Floyd Patterson in his pro debut.

That being said, its hard to seriously knock the fight because it was so exciting... if there is any truth, though, to Wilder facing Povetkin next... I think we will see a title change... If Povetkin can grind out twelve rounds with Klitschko and it be competitive, Wilder is in for a rude awakening. Shame, because I would of rather seen Wilder face the Fury/Klitschko winner next. But alas, this is heavyweight boxing and we don't get what we want or expect.

Freedom2013 wrote:Duhapas is BoxRec #40 at heavyweight, and that seems correct to me.

He's durable and has lots of heart, but he lacks power, his footwork is poor and he doesn't seem to be able to throw combinations.

If he could have worked on Wilder's eye, which was half shut closed very early in the fight, he could have won.

BoxRec dropped him down to #40. They had him at 34 before the fight

Duhaupas was knocked down by this feather-fisted cruiserweight journeyman, why couldn't Wilder do it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iW6RFGffh4

x2x wrote:

Freedom2013 wrote:Duhapas is BoxRec #40 at heavyweight, and that seems correct to me.

He's durable and has lots of heart, but he lacks power, his footwork is poor and he doesn't seem to be able to throw combinations.

"If he could have worked on Wilder's eye, which was half shut closed very early in the fight, he could have won." X2X



And if my aunt had a dick she'd be my uncle.

Wilder has learned a lot between his last fight and this fight, he fought more often from distance and was actually defending better, Duhaupas is just a better boxer as Stiverne and Molina, that's why he got hurt this badly anyway.

Wilder became a lot better fighter in the past few months behind the scenes.
Wilder would have been in trouble one year ago against Duhaupas, but not any more, or in every case a lot less.

Wilder is still absolutely not ready for Povetkin, Povetkin is fighting guys like Duhaupas and even loads better ones for years now and usually KO's them in about 5 roudns.
His only loss was against Klitschko, who really managed to achieve the maximum result against him with his style.
Somehow Povetkin only got better over the past two years and Klitschko only got slower and probably got injuries more frequent.


People say he was in serious trouble against Marco Huck, and indeed he was, but the reason for that wasn't because he was a bad fighter, but I've heard he didn't take Huck serious and was actually training just before the match.
Because of that he ran out of energy during the match, just like Klitschko did against Puritty when he was sick (that's why Klitschko was 7 pounds lighter during that match compared to the match three weeks earlier and 13 pounds more heavy the match after).
Povetkin is the only boxer I know that has ever survived hitting the wall, and not just one round, but like 5 of them, he was already wobbling in round 7, not because he got hit (because Huck was still scared and only defending), but just because he ran out of energy.

Wilder is a lot more heavy now as in his early carreer, but in his early carreer the same thing as what happened to Klitschko could have happened to Wilder, simply run out of energy.




*I'd also like to say that I appriciated the crowd, they cheered for Wilder, but at the end they gave Duhaupas a big applaus, he gave them a show, unlike many fighters before.

asdfjkl wrote:
Wilder became a lot better fighter in the past few months behind the scenes.

Stunning accuracy
https://instagram.com/p/8Ljet1wQ01/

Freedom2013 wrote:Duhaupas was knocked down by this feather-fisted cruiserweight journeyman, why couldn't Wilder do it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iW6RFGffh4

Whoa! Weren't the NBC commentators saying "Duhaupas has not only never been knocked out,
he has never even been knocked down"?

Freedom2013 wrote:Duhaupas was knocked down by this feather-fisted cruiserweight journeyman, why couldn't Wilder do it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iW6RFGffh4

Where was he knocked down in that 2009 Bikoi fight? He KO'd Bikoi in round 3.

ttornado wrote: Stunning accuracy
https://instagram.com/p/8Ljet1wQ01/

Ha ha!

Wilder is pretty fit I will give him that.. In saying this he got tagged way to often and if his opposition had power he may have been in all sorts of trouble.

Like most just wish he would step up to some top level competition.. Once he has proven himself he can yap and show boat.

Cutman Scabbers wrote:

Freedom2013 wrote:Duhaupas was knocked down by this feather-fisted cruiserweight journeyman, why couldn't Wilder do it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iW6RFGffh4

Whoa! Weren't the NBC commentators saying "Duhaupas has not only never been knocked out,
he has never even been knocked down"?

And for once in their lives they were right. And he still hasn't been knocked down. I don't know what this guy here is talking about.

Well judging from his first two outings since winning a Heavyweight strap it seems obvious that Deontay Wilder has handpicked a couple of relatively easier opponents.
So ok he wants to earn a few bucks and gurantee he keeps hold of his belt, but that won't last too long I would have thought as he will be roundly criticized as a paper champion without any credibility.
When will he take the step up and how long before the people start getting pissed off is the big question and he's already had two easy ones handed to him on a plate, sometimes it's easier winning the title than holding onto it because everyone and their dog now wants a piece of you and you have to work just as hard if not harder to keep a hold of it.
The scrutiny Deontay Wilder will now be under as a belt holder shines a lot of light on him and there are expectations that he'll have to meet or he will be under heavy fire and already some of the community are getting a bit restless by the looks of it and in some cases rightly so they do have something to go on.
Deontay the guy himself seems like a decent man, I certainly have no personal dislike for him in any way.
Deontay the boxer is open to question and he has to earn the respect as a legitimate champion.
Talent wise - He can punch, he's quick and seems to have some balls on him, he's willing to stand and trade if need be and certainly isn't what I would call anything close to a boring fighter.
His boxing ability is fairly limited although he has shown he can use the jab, hooks and bang it out on the inside.
His chin I'm not 100% certain about as I've never seen anyone clock him enough on it to be fully tested so the jury is still out on that.
So I'll end where I started which is with how many of these easier opponents is he to be fed before we all get fed up with him, maybe its overdue for some but I stand with the "he's on his last easy one" group before serious questions are asked about him.