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Re: Anthony Joshua (WBA, IBF, IBO) vs. Joseph Parker (WBO) - March 31st 2018

Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 08:15
by wesshaw1985


Re: Anthony Joshua (WBA, IBF, IBO) vs. Joseph Parker (WBO) - March 31st 2018

Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 12:31
by wesshaw1985

Re: Anthony Joshua (WBA, IBF, IBO) vs. Joseph Parker (WBO) - March 31st 2018

Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 13:29
by handsofstone
Neither guy coming off stellar performances but they should be well up for this one, I thought Joshua looked a bit flat against Takam and never really had a plan and the stoppage was BS, Parker I thought lost comfortably to Hughie, I was pissed as a newt when I watched it mind, that pissed that I thought Fury got the nod when I woke up next day :oops: Still I remember the fight being diabolical and Parker walking forward without being effective, I preferred Shades of Ali

Rumours are Joshua is coming in heavy like last time and Parker is coming in lighter so it does close the odds if true, Parker has good handspeed and he wont have to chase AJ like he did Fury so he'll have chances, I just cant see him living with Joshua though, Joshua is too strong and hits too hard, much harder than any of Parker's previous opponents

Both guys have questionable stamina and if their to fade I can see Joshua breaking Parker down late in the fight rather than vice versa, Parker's a nice guy and I wouldn't mind seeing him win TBH but he's an ordinary champ

Re: Anthony Joshua (WBA, IBF, IBO) vs. Joseph Parker (WBO) - March 31st 2018

Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 13:34
by dirk2686
Whilst I agree that the stoppage was poor for the Takam fight Joshua was winning the fight by absolutely miles.

I think this happens a lot in boxing. Takam did well in the eyes of many given they presumably expected him to be blown away. Therefore because he wasn't Joshua was flat, too heavy, looked poor overall. I don't think he really did. It was the equivalent of Man Utd beating some non-league side 3-0 in the FA Cup having been three up inside half an hour. He just coasted to the win really.

Re: Anthony Joshua (WBA, IBF, IBO) vs. Joseph Parker (WBO) - March 31st 2018

Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 13:35
by nitro5912
handsofstone wrote: 26 Mar 2018, 13:29 Neither guy coming off stellar performances but they should be well up for this one, I thought Joshua looked a bit flat against Takam and never really had a plan and the stoppage was BS, Parker I thought lost comfortably to Hughie, I was pissed as a newt when I watched it mind, that pissed that I thought Fury got the nod when I woke up next day :oops: Still I remember the fight being diabolical and Parker walking forward without being effective, I preferred Shades of Ali

Rumours are Joshua is coming in heavy like last time and Parker is coming in lighter so it does close the odds if true, Parker has good handspeed and he wont have to chase AJ like he did Fury so he'll have chances, I just cant see him living with Joshua though, Joshua is too strong and hits too hard, much harder than any of Parker's previous opponents

Both guys have questionable stamina and if their to fade I can see Joshua breaking Parker down late in the fight rather than vice versa, Parker's a nice guy and I wouldn't mind seeing him win TBH but he's an ordinary champ
Surely that would be the total opposite of everything that is pointing to AJ coming in lighter.

He looks like he has slimmed down, seems in the clips he posts to be reasonably quick, hearn saying light, mckracken saying lighter. Even nutjob Higgins is saying he is lighter to copy Parker.

Re: Anthony Joshua (WBA, IBF, IBO) vs. Joseph Parker (WBO) - March 31st 2018

Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 13:38
by nitro5912
dirk2686 wrote: 26 Mar 2018, 13:34 Whilst I agree that the stoppage was poor for the Takam fight Joshua was winning the fight by absolutely miles.

I think this happens a lot in boxing. Takam did well in the eyes of many given they presumably expected him to be blown away. Therefore because he wasn't Joshua was flat, too heavy, looked poor overall. I don't think he really did. It was the equivalent of Man Utd beating some non-league side 3-0 in the FA Cup having been three up inside half an hour. He just coasted to the win really.
Let's not forget that Joshua bust open both of takams eyes, put him on his arse and rocked him more than once.

Compare that to how Parker beat him which was a 116-112/115-113 fight. I believe AJ had won all bar 1 round on the cards prior to the stoppage.

Re: Anthony Joshua (WBA, IBF, IBO) vs. Joseph Parker (WBO) - March 31st 2018

Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 14:31
by KiwiRider
nitro5912 wrote: 26 Mar 2018, 13:38
dirk2686 wrote: 26 Mar 2018, 13:34 Whilst I agree that the stoppage was poor for the Takam fight Joshua was winning the fight by absolutely miles.

I think this happens a lot in boxing. Takam did well in the eyes of many given they presumably expected him to be blown away. Therefore because he wasn't Joshua was flat, too heavy, looked poor overall. I don't think he really did. It was the equivalent of Man Utd beating some non-league side 3-0 in the FA Cup having been three up inside half an hour. He just coasted to the win really.
Let's not forget that Joshua bust open both of takams eyes, put him on his arse and rocked him more than once.

Compare that to how Parker beat him which was a 116-112/115-113 fight. I believe AJ had won all bar 1 round on the cards prior to the stoppage.
The difference between the two Takem fights is that Takem came in to beat Parker, and survive against AJ.

Re: Anthony Joshua (WBA, IBF, IBO) vs. Joseph Parker (WBO) - March 31st 2018

Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 14:32
by jamesmcdonnell
KiwiRider wrote: 26 Mar 2018, 14:31
nitro5912 wrote: 26 Mar 2018, 13:38
dirk2686 wrote: 26 Mar 2018, 13:34 Whilst I agree that the stoppage was poor for the Takam fight Joshua was winning the fight by absolutely miles.

I think this happens a lot in boxing. Takam did well in the eyes of many given they presumably expected him to be blown away. Therefore because he wasn't Joshua was flat, too heavy, looked poor overall. I don't think he really did. It was the equivalent of Man Utd beating some non-league side 3-0 in the FA Cup having been three up inside half an hour. He just coasted to the win really.
Let's not forget that Joshua bust open both of takams eyes, put him on his arse and rocked him more than once.

Compare that to how Parker beat him which was a 116-112/115-113 fight. I believe AJ had won all bar 1 round on the cards prior to the stoppage.
The difference between the two Takem fights is that Takem came in to beat Parker, and survive against AJ.
That maybe says quite a bit how he viewed both men.

Re: Anthony Joshua (WBA, IBF, IBO) vs. Joseph Parker (WBO) - March 31st 2018

Posted: 27 Mar 2018, 00:44
by nitro5912
KiwiRider wrote: 26 Mar 2018, 14:31
nitro5912 wrote: 26 Mar 2018, 13:38
dirk2686 wrote: 26 Mar 2018, 13:34 Whilst I agree that the stoppage was poor for the Takam fight Joshua was winning the fight by absolutely miles.

I think this happens a lot in boxing. Takam did well in the eyes of many given they presumably expected him to be blown away. Therefore because he wasn't Joshua was flat, too heavy, looked poor overall. I don't think he really did. It was the equivalent of Man Utd beating some non-league side 3-0 in the FA Cup having been three up inside half an hour. He just coasted to the win really.
Let's not forget that Joshua bust open both of takams eyes, put him on his arse and rocked him more than once.

Compare that to how Parker beat him which was a 116-112/115-113 fight. I believe AJ had won all bar 1 round on the cards prior to the stoppage.
The difference between the two Takem fights is that Takem came in to beat Parker, and survive against AJ.
Surely that says it all about the respective view of the 2?

Re: Anthony Joshua (WBA, IBF, IBO) vs. Joseph Parker (WBO) - March 31st 2018

Posted: 27 Mar 2018, 00:48
by jamamb
perhaps that shows somethng about how he regarded each man...in case it hasnt been suggested

Re: Anthony Joshua (WBA, IBF, IBO) vs. Joseph Parker (WBO) - March 31st 2018

Posted: 27 Mar 2018, 02:32
by jimcook
parker fought him a couple o years ago when takam was closer to prime and when parker was only 23 /24 years old. joshua was 28 and is in his physical prime. this might be relevant or might not be. it should also be pointed out that povetkin did a better job of knocking takam out,and did not rely on a hometown ref soft stoppage.

Re: Anthony Joshua (WBA, IBF, IBO) vs. Joseph Parker (WBO) - March 31st 2018

Posted: 27 Mar 2018, 02:43
by jamamb
povetkin stopped takam much harder but that was far more competitive then aj vs takam was

povetkin vs takam was oficcially even after 8

personally i thought you could score takam vs parker a draw

Re: Anthony Joshua (WBA, IBF, IBO) vs. Joseph Parker (WBO) - March 31st 2018

Posted: 27 Mar 2018, 02:44
by jimcook
Another thing , while i'm at it.......joshua may be a beast, but he is seriously over rated. he has beaten 17 nobodies, has had 20 fights and is 28 years old. his best victory was takam, who is solid. the klit victory was against a very old well past it former champ.

Re: Anthony Joshua (WBA, IBF, IBO) vs. Joseph Parker (WBO) - March 31st 2018

Posted: 27 Mar 2018, 02:45
by jamamb
no one else has been as dominant vs as good opposition as aj has

Re: Anthony Joshua (WBA, IBF, IBO) vs. Joseph Parker (WBO) - March 31st 2018

Posted: 27 Mar 2018, 02:47
by jimcook
jamamb wrote: 27 Mar 2018, 02:43 povetkin stopped takam much harder but that was far more competitive then aj vs takam was

povetkin vs takam was oficcially even after 8
true, but joshuas size was harder for the 6ft takam to deal with.....not the skill.

Re: Anthony Joshua (WBA, IBF, IBO) vs. Joseph Parker (WBO) - March 31st 2018

Posted: 27 Mar 2018, 02:49
by jimcook
jamamb wrote: 27 Mar 2018, 02:45 no one else has been as dominant vs as good opposition as aj has
like i said, joshua hasnt fought a world class prime heavyweight yet

Re: Anthony Joshua (WBA, IBF, IBO) vs. Joseph Parker (WBO) - March 31st 2018

Posted: 27 Mar 2018, 02:54
by dirk2686
jimcook wrote: 27 Mar 2018, 02:49
jamamb wrote: 27 Mar 2018, 02:45 no one else has been as dominant vs as good opposition as aj has
like i said, joshua hasnt fought a world class prime heavyweight yet
The point is that there arguably aren't any. Wilder is wild, Fury hasn't fought since 2015, Parker is untested, Haye is past it, Ortiz is ancient, Pulev average.

Bar Klitschko he's barely lost a round. You can say the opposition was average but it's not like it's been particularly weak.

Re: Anthony Joshua (WBA, IBF, IBO) vs. Joseph Parker (WBO) - March 31st 2018

Posted: 27 Mar 2018, 03:10
by jimcook
im just saying that joshua is still relatively untested at the highest level when you compare him to heavyweight champs of the past.20 fights is nothing. look at all the mugs who had eubank jr as the next rjj! knocking out bums , has beens, etc doesnt help you when you have top quality opposition in front of you.

Re: Anthony Joshua (WBA, IBF, IBO) vs. Joseph Parker (WBO) - March 31st 2018

Posted: 27 Mar 2018, 03:22
by Kalan
dirk2686 wrote: 27 Mar 2018, 02:54
jimcook wrote: 27 Mar 2018, 02:49
jamamb wrote: 27 Mar 2018, 02:45 no one else has been as dominant vs as good opposition as aj has
like i said, joshua hasnt fought a world class prime heavyweight yet
The point is that there arguably aren't any. Wilder is wild, Fury hasn't fought since 2015, Parker is untested, Haye is past it, Ortiz is ancient, Pulev average.

Bar Klitschko he's barely lost a round. You can say the opposition was average but it's not like it's been particularly weak.
Wilder isn't wild... He put in some nice accurate shots versus Ortiz cuz he HAD to... He was in deep shitt -- but very cool.

Parker isn't untested... Takam and Ruiz were really big tests... Hughie was a smaller test... Some didn't think he passed all of the tests, but Parker will be ready for Joshua and Joshua will be ready for him.

Anyone who doesn't think AJ has fought a world class prime Heavyweight is out there in Zu Zu Land... Takam certainly had the goods and Breazeale is a very tough, hard man... Not everybody can be a master boxer.

Re: Anthony Joshua (WBA, IBF, IBO) vs. Joseph Parker (WBO) - March 31st 2018

Posted: 27 Mar 2018, 03:32
by Counter-puncher
Kalan wrote: 27 Mar 2018, 03:22
dirk2686 wrote: 27 Mar 2018, 02:54
jimcook wrote: 27 Mar 2018, 02:49
like i said, joshua hasnt fought a world class prime heavyweight yet
The point is that there arguably aren't any. Wilder is wild, Fury hasn't fought since 2015, Parker is untested, Haye is past it, Ortiz is ancient, Pulev average.

Bar Klitschko he's barely lost a round. You can say the opposition was average but it's not like it's been particularly weak.
Wilder isn't wild...
:lol:

brit forum guys- just so you know- this is kalan, he once described Chris Eubank Jr as one of the smartest fighters in boxing history, alongside Willie Pep, Salvador Sanchez and Mayweather.

just so you all know.

Re: Anthony Joshua (WBA, IBF, IBO) vs. Joseph Parker (WBO) - March 31st 2018

Posted: 27 Mar 2018, 04:05
by jimcook
aye, exactly.
breazeale a world class prime heavyweight! says it all. holyfield lewis tyson witherspoon holmes and ali would all have struggled wi big breazeale

Re: Anthony Joshua (WBA, IBF, IBO) vs. Joseph Parker (WBO) - March 31st 2018

Posted: 27 Mar 2018, 04:06
by ILikeBeer
Parker. By brutal, first round KO. :TU:

Re: Anthony Joshua (WBA, IBF, IBO) vs. Joseph Parker (WBO) - March 31st 2018

Posted: 27 Mar 2018, 05:08
by MightyWarrior
jimcook wrote: 27 Mar 2018, 03:10 im just saying that joshua is still relatively untested at the highest level when you compare him to heavyweight champs of the past.20 fights is nothing. look at all the mugs who had eubank jr as the next rjj! knocking out bums , has beens, etc doesnt help you when you have top quality opposition in front of you.
Fair enough, though Josh won’t have top quality opposition in front of him on Sat night.

Re: Anthony Joshua (WBA, IBF, IBO) vs. Joseph Parker (WBO) - March 31st 2018

Posted: 27 Mar 2018, 07:05
by wesshaw1985

Re: Anthony Joshua (WBA, IBF, IBO) vs. Joseph Parker (WBO) - March 31st 2018

Posted: 27 Mar 2018, 07:34
by Mimmy


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