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Biggest load of guff in years, completely fake, it was evident in the ring after his last outing, why do they expect people to fall for it?

samwbr wrote: ↑02 Oct 2018, 16:20 Biggest load of guff in years, completely fake, it was evident in the ring after his last outing, why do they expect people to fall for it?

Fall for what? Fury talks like that vs anybody its just what he does, theres no doubt they dont hate each other and they dont claim to

Wa1nuts wrote: ↑02 Oct 2018, 16:28

samwbr wrote: ↑02 Oct 2018, 16:20 Biggest load of guff in years, completely fake, it was evident in the ring after his last outing, why do they expect people to fall for it?

Fall for what? Fury talks like that vs anybody its just what he does, theres no doubt they dont hate each other and they dont claim to

Making out there is some big beef going on, it's cringeworthy. I know there's a fight to sell but the way they are going about it is laughable.

samwbr wrote: ↑02 Oct 2018, 16:30

Wa1nuts wrote: ↑02 Oct 2018, 16:28

samwbr wrote: ↑02 Oct 2018, 16:20 Biggest load of guff in years, completely fake, it was evident in the ring after his last outing, why do they expect people to fall for it?

Fall for what? Fury talks like that vs anybody its just what he does, theres no doubt they dont hate each other and they dont claim to

Making out there is some big beef going on, it's cringeworthy. I know there's a fight to sell but the way they are going about it is laughable.

It is cringey but it's just what fury does. I don't think they're making out there's a beef they're just saying they're going to knock each other out. Not as cringey as the likes of bellew. Fury hasn't put a batman suit on yet so it's not his worst build up yet

I'm just glad they're fighting to be honest really interested to see what happens

Comical build up to a cracking fight

Oiky wrote: ↑02 Oct 2018, 17:03 Comical build up to a cracking fight

Do you really think so ?
When was Fury ever in a cracking fight ?
Has to have been some time ago , if ever .

Let’s see the LA presser.. is that tomorrow?

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑02 Oct 2018, 18:45 Let’s see the LA presser.. is that tomorrow?

It's in 16 hours. Here's the youtube link of it on Showtime's channel:

Watching a bit of the NY do (jeez, I'm not watching the whole thing), Wilder looks really slight next to Fury. For this reason I now give Fury a very small chance.

Wilder needs space to launch his hurtful shots from, and so running away because you're scared of his power flatters his destructive capabilities; we've seen him look quite ordinary for long spells against those who've held their ground. Fury doesn't have a granite chin, but I think he can probably take Wilder's power up close. So if he can routinely lure Wilder into his clinches by holding his feet and guarding, his best bet might be to hit the weights hard and attempt to wrestle his way to victory.

The most interesting aspect for me is height and reach, since neither have fought without those advantages before. Firtha's their only big man in common, and the only giant other than Harrison on either's record. Wilder has the better results there. He also has a psychological edge in knowing that his chin's not as bad as we used to think, which coupled with his power against a relative non-puncher should be more than enough encouragement to make him somewhat aggressive.

And I don't think that Fury's feted awkwardness will work out too well for him against a faster, fierce-punching man with almost equal height and reach. For me, he actually makes glaring mistakes when switching, as well as retreating sometimes, but he's thus far been too far away to punish thanks to his height. He sometimes juts his chin out momentarily during side-to-side head movement, no-hands-mum-style, as if he's copied it from the greats without watching himself back. At least not with a critical eye. McCallum had beautiful head movement and hardly anyone noticed because it was subtle, while Locche had tons of anticipation.

Fury also likes to withdraw behind the jab and take pursuing right hands with a shoulder roll. This has been incredibly effective for him against shorter men, but I struggle to not see Wilder giving him nightmares if he retreats like that against him; what with Wilder's lunging, he might be ideally placed for a monster left. Fury has to bring that lead hand back ASAP (he used to), but I'm not sure how strong his muscle memory's become for his somewhat lazy latterday jabbing at max range. He boxes a long longer than he used to, his power compromised with less shoulder.

But yeah — I don't think that Wilder's such a big deal on the inside, and he certainly won't be pushing Fury around. A bit of dirtiness on the blindside in a general repeat of his Cunningham win could pull off a huge upset for Fury. He could maybe even manhandle Wilder to a twisted ankle or summat. But whereas most favour Fury on the outside, I just feel that he's enjoyed his height for a bit too long and he'll get tagged unless he's 100% focused at all times. Rey Vargas is the only other example I can think of, because Callum Smith's been guilty of underusing his height.

I really think it might serve Fury best to think like the smaller man and do all he can to keep it close and spoil-filled. The longer he can keep Wilder off-balance and uncoiled the better, and he has the weight to do that quite easily in clinches. If Wilder's stuck in a corner, close the gap and keep him there.

All that said, I'm still 90-10 in favour of Wilder finding enough space and the right angle to launch and land, and if that comes to pass it's a bleak outlook for Fury.

Whyte coming across as jelous

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑03 Oct 2018, 11:00

Decent

Wa1nuts wrote: ↑02 Oct 2018, 16:28

samwbr wrote: ↑02 Oct 2018, 16:20 Biggest load of guff in years, completely fake, it was evident in the ring after his last outing, why do they expect people to fall for it?

Fall for what? Fury talks like that vs anybody its just what he does, theres no doubt they dont hate each other and they dont claim to

Listening to a reporter on the radio today who said as soon as the cameras were off the 2 of them they were all laughing and joking behind the scenes, they both seemed like bezzie mates.

Its all a ploy as we've seen many times before to help sell the show.

MasterG wrote: ↑03 Oct 2018, 12:09

Wa1nuts wrote: ↑02 Oct 2018, 16:28

samwbr wrote: ↑02 Oct 2018, 16:20 Biggest load of guff in years, completely fake, it was evident in the ring after his last outing, why do they expect people to fall for it?

Fall for what? Fury talks like that vs anybody its just what he does, theres no doubt they dont hate each other and they dont claim to

Listening to a reporter on the radio today who said as soon as the cameras were off the 2 of them they were all laughing and joking behind the scenes, they both seemed like bezzie mates.

Its all a ploy as we've seen many times before to help sell the show.

There's a picture of them backstage, cuddling up to each other like they are about to breakout into a bumming session.

The plot isn't being brought this time by the masses though.

Of course, it's all staged. Well, I don't think, they have some kind of plot or whatever, there's just no bad blood between them and they know, they should trash each other in public. That's the same part of the job as hitting each other in the face during an actual bout.

Tickets in Los Angeles have just gone on sale.

The stated prices range from $75 to $1000.

Within 5 minutes I was unable to find any seats cheaper than $500 at Staples box office.

Marked up seats at $1500 are already available at brokers.

So if you're planning to journey, it will be an expensive one.

SenorPipino wrote: ↑28 Sep 2018, 23:06

jtourettes wrote: ↑28 Sep 2018, 15:42

SenorPipino wrote: ↑28 Sep 2018, 15:32

I'm afraid Americans don't care about it at all.

Especially in Los Angeles, a city always eager to support the Latino smaller guys, but not very excited about the heavies.

At least in Las Vegas, it could have drawn the gambling crowd.

I don't know why they felt there was a compelling need to put on this fight before the end of the year.

If it was slated for January or so, Las Vegas arenas would have been available.

I reckon it'll sell out, against expectations.

I'd be surprised if it sold out. Although admittedly the fact that this fight has actually been signed is a big surprise to me.

It depends how expensive the tickets run. So far a $75 minimum in the Staples rafters has been announced.

We'll have to see what the ceiling is.

Of course it's likely that the house will be heavily comped so that Staples doesn't look half empty.

Any idea how many Brits might trek across the pond to catch the fight?

It wouldn't be too surprising if more than half the crowd comes from the UK or are transplants currently living in the US.

Seems to be doing okay so far.

SenorPipino wrote: ↑03 Oct 2018, 15:13 Tickets in Los Angeles have just gone on sale.

The stated prices range from $75 to $1000.

Within 5 minutes I was unable to find any seats cheaper than $500 at Staples box office.

Marked up seats at $1500 are already available at brokers.

So if you're planning to journey, it will be an expensive one.

Really? Ffs. I thought they were on sale on axs?

jtourettes wrote: ↑03 Oct 2018, 16:00

SenorPipino wrote: ↑28 Sep 2018, 23:06

jtourettes wrote: ↑28 Sep 2018, 15:42

I reckon it'll sell out, against expectations.

I'd be surprised if it sold out. Although admittedly the fact that this fight has actually been signed is a big surprise to me.

It depends how expensive the tickets run. So far a $75 minimum in the Staples rafters has been announced.

We'll have to see what the ceiling is.

Of course it's likely that the house will be heavily comped so that Staples doesn't look half empty.

Any idea how many Brits might trek across the pond to catch the fight?

It wouldn't be too surprising if more than half the crowd comes from the UK or are transplants currently living in the US.

Seems to be doing okay so far.

How many tickets were given away as comps to VIPS before they were officially available to the public, I don't know.

SenorPipino wrote: ↑03 Oct 2018, 15:13 Tickets in Los Angeles have just gone on sale.

The stated prices range from $75 to $1000.

Within 5 minutes I was unable to find any seats cheaper than $500 at Staples box office.

Marked up seats at $1500 are already available at brokers.

So if you're planning to journey, it will be an expensive one.

$211 dollars cheapest on axs right now

Why did fat dan find that so funny

Oiky wrote: ↑03 Oct 2018, 17:21 Why did fat dan find that so funny

Because he's a fat, giggling fangirl.

He's a proper div

I did think during the repeated ‘let me at him’ nonsense, that if Wilder wanted to get to Fury or the other way around, would FW really be able to hold them back with one hand? But then I remembered that this is a man who has walked through a bullet.