Re: WBSS Super-Lightweight Final: Josh Taylor vs. Regis Prograis - 26 October 2019
Posted: 29 Oct 2019, 03:17
by Delta Jay
Just watched this again. Had it even after 6, have Taylor 7-10 close on work rate and Prograis 11, 12 very clear last two rounds. That’s 116-112 and if I scored an early one even, like I wanted to, I would’ve had the 117-112 the judge had. Nothing wrong with that card.
Prograis so slick throughout, Taylor just an animal. I’d rather see Prograis vs Ramirez and then the rematch.
Re: WBSS Super-Lightweight Final: Josh Taylor vs. Regis Prograis - 26 October 2019
BroughtonRulesRefuge wrote: ↑25 Oct 2019, 11:37
- Home decision favors Taylor, and on paper the the KO about 50/50, however experience slightly favors Prograis. The dereliction of LH, Cruisers, and Heavies of Americans has never wilted the welt divisions.
Also a history of modern American welts crossing over to whoop the hometown Brit in Tim Bradley(Junior Witter,) Terrence Crawford(Ricky Burns,) and Earl Spence(Kell Brook,) so I expect Regis to extend that mean streak with either a beating or a KO.
Unless there is are officiating "malfunctions," insert snickers (here!)
Bradley and Crawford were not “welts” in those fights. Plus Prograis and Taylor are not “welts” either....
- Such affectations of pedantry will do for snickers...snicker...
IBRO historically only rates the original whole positions, not Junior or super artifices, how ever the Jr. Welt title was first claimed in 1922 and officially recorded in 1926 with Mushy Callahan win soon to be drethroned by IBHOF Kid Berg. Been more than a dozen such greats holding the title, ie traditional WELTER!
If you look at the fighters you mention, all were substantially above the 135 limit at various points, a limit which is a somewhat modern construct finally settled upon. Ricky at Lightwt weighed more on fight nite than a number of ibro top 20 all time welts.
A rose is a rose by any other name
Re: WBSS Super-Lightweight Final: Josh Taylor vs. Regis Prograis - 26 October 2019
Posted: 29 Oct 2019, 13:47
by Nightmare Roy
I see Gervonta Davis has called Taylor out and they are now trading insults, that would be a cracker of a fight!
Re: WBSS Super-Lightweight Final: Josh Taylor vs. Regis Prograis - 26 October 2019
Bradley and Crawford were not “welts” in those fights. Plus Prograis and Taylor are not “welts” either....
- Such affectations of pedantry will do for snickers...snicker...
IBRO historically only rates the original whole positions, not Junior or super artifices, how ever the Jr. Welt title was first claimed in 1922 and officially recorded in 1926 with Mushy Callahan win soon to be drethroned by IBHOF Kid Berg. Been more than a dozen such greats holding the title, ie traditional WELTER!
If you look at the fighters you mention, all were substantially above the 135 limit at various points, a limit which is a somewhat modern construct finally settled upon. Ricky at Lightwt weighed more on fight nite than a number of ibro top 20 all time welts.
A rose is a rose by any other name
Mushy fckin Callahan?
I think your on the magic mushys me old mucker.
Re: WBSS Super-Lightweight Final: Josh Taylor vs. Regis Prograis - 26 October 2019
Posted: 29 Oct 2019, 15:37
by Stuarty
Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 13:47
I see Gervonta Davis has called Taylor out and they are now trading insults, that would be a cracker of a fight!
Would love to see Taylor brutalise that little wank!
Re: WBSS Super-Lightweight Final: Josh Taylor vs. Regis Prograis - 26 October 2019
Posted: 29 Oct 2019, 15:53
by Onetimeonly
Delta Jay wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 03:17
Just watched this again. Had it even after 6, have Taylor 7-10 close on work rate and Prograis 11, 12 very clear last two rounds. That’s 116-112 and if I scored an early one even, like I wanted to, I would’ve had the 117-112 the judge had. Nothing wrong with that card.
Prograis so slick throughout, Taylor just an animal. I’d rather see Prograis vs Ramirez and then the rematch.
You added your card like a true professional judge!
Re: WBSS Super-Lightweight Final: Josh Taylor vs. Regis Prograis - 26 October 2019
Posted: 29 Oct 2019, 16:05
by KiwiRider
Delta Jay wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 03:17
Just watched this again. Had it even after 6, have Taylor 7-10 close on work rate and Prograis 11, 12 very clear last two rounds. That’s 116-112 and if I scored an early one even, like I wanted to, I would’ve had the 117-112 the judge had. Nothing wrong with that card.
Prograis so slick throughout, Taylor just an animal. I’d rather see Prograis vs Ramirez and then the rematch.
I was rewinding and rewatching some of the inside work by Prograis and Taylor as the fight went on. Both guys doing some neat work in there.
At the end I had it 115-113. I saw it that close.
As for the future, I don't mind either fighting Ramirez. For fairness though, I think Reggie needs to have an eliminator first, whereas Taylor can go straight for a unification IMO.
Re: WBSS Super-Lightweight Final: Josh Taylor vs. Regis Prograis - 26 October 2019
Delta Jay wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 03:17
Just watched this again. Had it even after 6, have Taylor 7-10 close on work rate and Prograis 11, 12 very clear last two rounds. That’s 116-112 and if I scored an early one even, like I wanted to, I would’ve had the 117-112 the judge had. Nothing wrong with that card.
Prograis so slick throughout, Taylor just an animal. I’d rather see Prograis vs Ramirez and then the rematch.
I was rewinding and rewatching some of the inside work by Prograis and Taylor as the fight went on. Both guys doing some neat work in there.
At the end I had it 115-113. I saw it that close.
As for the future, I don't mind either fighting Ramirez. For fairness though, I think Reggie needs to have an eliminator first, whereas Taylor can go straight for a unification IMO.
Same card he had. The only dominant RDS in the fight were the last 2. Taylor was definitely busier, both were sound defensively. Great fight, fine decision, both elevated themselves. Prograis could get himself a shot at Crawford.
Re: WBSS Super-Lightweight Final: Josh Taylor vs. Regis Prograis - 26 October 2019
Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 13:47
I see Gervonta Davis has called Taylor out and they are now trading insults, that would be a cracker of a fight!
Would love to see Taylor brutalise that little wank!
Me too, but to fair he’s a tasty little fcuker, it would be another excellent win for JT.
Re: WBSS Super-Lightweight Final: Josh Taylor vs. Regis Prograis - 26 October 2019
And;
"put the drink down wee man and sleep it off"
Re: WBSS Super-Lightweight Final: Josh Taylor vs. Regis Prograis - 26 October 2019
Posted: 29 Oct 2019, 17:58
by coneye
That was simply a fight , you could watch 10 times and come up with 5 each , It was a real good fight , i've watched it twice , got Taylor nudging it and the other fought it was a draw , and too be honest whaen there that good a fight , who cares who the winner is ,,,, Well i suppose the winner cares , but i don't , for me on that night both lads and boxing itself was the winner .
Re: WBSS Super-Lightweight Final: Josh Taylor vs. Regis Prograis - 26 October 2019
Posted: 29 Oct 2019, 18:23
by Ruthless-RKO
coneye wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 17:58
That was simply a fight , you could watch 10 times and come up with 5 each , It was a real good fight , i've watched it twice , got Taylor nudging it and the other fought it was a draw , and too be honest whaen there that good a fight , who cares who the winner is ,,,, Well i suppose the winner cares , but i don't , for me on that night both lads and boxing itself was the winner .
Like most of us said, May the best man win and as long as we got a good fight. Which we did.
Re: WBSS Super-Lightweight Final: Josh Taylor vs. Regis Prograis - 26 October 2019
Would love to see Taylor brutalise that little wank!
Me too, but to fair he’s a tasty little fcuker, it would be another excellent win for JT.
The thing is that the f*cker is not so little strength wise. If he carries his power to 140 without seriously affecting his speed, he will be dangerous.
Re: WBSS Super-Lightweight Final: Josh Taylor vs. Regis Prograis - 26 October 2019
Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 16:48 Me too, but to fair he’s a tasty little fcuker, it would be another excellent win for JT.
The thing is that the f*cker is not so little strength wise. If he carries his power to 140 without seriously affecting his speed, he will be dangerous.
This is true. But if he keeps going the way he is, after a break following the Gamboa fight (Really?! Gamboa?!) he's going to have to start calling out middleweights.
Re: WBSS Super-Lightweight Final: Josh Taylor vs. Regis Prograis - 26 October 2019
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 18:51
The thing is that the f*cker is not so little strength wise. If he carries his power to 140 without seriously affecting his speed, he will be dangerous.
This is true. But if he keeps going the way he is, after a break following the Gamboa fight (Really?! Gamboa?!) he's going to have to start calling out middleweights.
Yep, one can see his cheeks from behind his ears.
He will likely face LSC next. Poor Leo will probably have to fight at 135-140.
Re: WBSS Super-Lightweight Final: Josh Taylor vs. Regis Prograis - 26 October 2019
Delta Jay wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 03:17
Just watched this again. Had it even after 6, have Taylor 7-10 close on work rate and Prograis 11, 12 very clear last two rounds. That’s 116-112 and if I scored an early one even, like I wanted to, I would’ve had the 117-112 the judge had. Nothing wrong with that card.
Prograis so slick throughout, Taylor just an animal. I’d rather see Prograis vs Ramirez and then the rematch.
You added your card like a true professional judge!
Haha. The shame
Re: WBSS Super-Lightweight Final: Josh Taylor vs. Regis Prograis - 26 October 2019
Now I’ve double checked it. 3.5 rounds to Prograis really is a terrible card. Apologies.
All in jest. I agree with you. I don't score fights anymore specifically because I'd rather drink. Prograis definitely won the last two(that's all I keep) but I felt Taylor was outworking him most of the close RDS(all of the others IMO). Great fight, fan of both.
Re: WBSS Super-Lightweight Final: Josh Taylor vs. Regis Prograis - 26 October 2019
Now I’ve double checked it. 3.5 rounds to Prograis really is a terrible card. Apologies.
All in jest. I agree with you. I don't score fights anymore specifically because I'd rather drink. Prograis definitely won the last two(that's all I keep) but I felt Taylor was outworking him most of the close RDS(all of the others IMO). Great fight, fan of both.
Seems to be the consensus.
Re: WBSS Super-Lightweight Final: Josh Taylor vs. Regis Prograis - 26 October 2019
