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Thomastearns wrote: ↑26 May 2022, 12:43
We know GGG has never been put down, but neither has Canelo as far as I'm aware.

apollo creed wrote: ↑01 Jun 2022, 12:55 As I said it GGG shoud use a high tight guard, efective jabs, angles and 1-2s to have a chance to look decent for 12 rounds vs Canelo.

Cent0089 wrote: ↑01 Jun 2022, 14:39

apollo creed wrote: ↑01 Jun 2022, 12:55 As I said it GGG shoud use a high tight guard, efective jabs, angles and 1-2s to have a chance to look decent for 12 rounds vs Canelo.

Good luck with high tight guard against Alvarez body shots

gregregegg wrote: ↑31 May 2022, 19:48 Canelos weight is the biggest issue here for me.

Canelo just got too big and too cocky as a fuccking TANK vs Bivol.. Sacraficed footwork, Slipping, Speed and skill for plodding and whacking. Was willing to take bivols jab so got a seemingly damaged nose, that combined with his bulk for stamina issues. When bivol pressured with combos Canelo wasnt slick enough to evade and counter just got through em and then started plodding with single shots agian.

Vs GGG If canelo comes in big and slow again and is looking to plod rather than slip and rip, and GGG gets on his jab, then he is a slight chance.

If canelo loses a bit of weight and gets his speed and slickness bakc he should be able to slip jabs and murder GGG to the body. If he can bank a few good body shots a round while GGG is having one of his slow starts, it wont be close.

apollo creed wrote: ↑26 May 2022, 15:10 Indeed Canelo was overmatched by Bivol.

But Canelo deserves his props for fighting the best out there.

Can you imagine a big guy like Benavidez challenging the top fighters from 175?

golden_balls wrote: ↑06 Jun 2022, 05:53 GGG is too old for this now and I fear he'll get hurt.

then there's the dodgy decisions to deal with. would love to be proved wrong

DrDuke wrote: ↑11 Jun 2022, 04:49 I rewatched the 2nd fight and had a draw. Interestingly, I scored it that way several times already. This ultimately proves for me, that the bout was pretty much either way going.

In the 1st round Canelo throws mostly single power punches. Golovkin tries to calculate Canelo, he isn’t very active, Canelo doesn’t seem to feel his punches. Saul dictates the fight. Canelo established the lead, 1-0.

In the 2nd round Canelo presses more. General picture is like in the 1st round. Canelo lands clean left hook, the best punch of the round. Canelo continues to be in control, Golovkin looks bothered, surprised by Canelo’s new tactics, which is more aggressive than in the previous bout. Canelo
goes to 2-0.

In the 3rd round Canelo keeps pressing and outlanding Golovkin with harder and cleaner shots. Canelo goes to 3-0.

In the 4th round Golovkin increases his output significantly, outboxes Canelo behind the jab and combinations, lands several big right uppercuts, a one of which hurt Canelo clearly. Golovkin shortens to 1-3.

In the 5th round Golovkin starts like in the 4th, scores some stuff, but Canelo begins to counter more successfully, Golovkin feels his punches and goes more jab-oriented. Golovkin outjabs Canelo vastly, but his work isn’t very effective. Canelo bothers Golovkin with power punches. Canelo looks like a one to dictate the fight again. Canelo goes to 4-1.

The 6th is relatively calm round. Canelo’s pressure and power punching looks more convincing than Golovkin’s jabbing-moving strategy. Canelo landed a bigger number of hard shots. Canelo goes to 5-1.

In the 7th round the picture is close to the scenario of the 6th. Golovkin edged with workrate, but he was uncomfortable on the backfoot and got outlanded with the quality stuff. Canelo goes to 6-1.

In the 8th round Canelo slows down. Golovkin outworks and outscores Canelo significantly. Golovkin shortens to 2-6.

In the 9th round Golovkin outboxes Canelo behind the jab and combinations. Canelo tries to fight back later in the round, but it’s not enough to steal it. Golovkin shortens to 3-6.

In the 10th round Canelo started well, he wanted to come back, but Golovkin didn’t allow him to do it. In the middle of the round Golovkin hurt Canelo with the right, since then GGG looked better and he finished strong. Golovkin shortens to 4-6.

In the 11th round Golovkin continues to outbox Canelo. Another big right landed in the middle of the round. Golovkin shortens to 5-6.

The 12th is toughest round to score. It was toe-to-toe for all three minutes. Golovkin probably edged it a bit, as he landed the biggest, the most visible shots. Golovkin equals to 6-6.

The overall impression of the fight, that Canelo decided to surprise Golovkin with being more aggressive than in the previous match, but his engine and arsenal wasn’t enough to fulfill the plan. Golovkin was bothered by Canelo’s new tactics, but he was able to regroup gradually. The ending was important for both, the 10th round was crucial. That’s where a one fighter could come back and finish the job, but the other one simply didn’t allow him to do it. Both these fighters are in the same class, worthy of each other, this fight proved that. The first one was a part of the strategy. Team Canelo relied on their side A status and were sure in the continuation of the rivalry, they were learning Golovkin, lost objectively, but were saved due to their side A status. In the second fight both fighters showed all their cards. It’s intriguing, what could have been in the instant third bout. Now Golovkin will probably show age. Team Canelo perfectly planned this rivalry.

jezzamundo wrote: ↑11 Jun 2022, 09:20 Interesting take on the fight. I originally scored it a draw, but had GGG up 6-5 and scored the 12th for Canelo. Rewatching I had it 115-113 to GGG, giving him rounds 1, 4, 5, 8, 9, 10 and 11.

Dioufy wrote: ↑11 Jun 2022, 10:08 116-112 1st fight
112-116 or 113-115 2nd fight

It’s 1-1.