Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Luis Ortiz | FOX PPV - September 4, 2022

[tiny_acres]

We have seen this type of crap every time he is scheduled to fight. And then comes into the ring fat as hell.
I hope he is seriously in shape he is a likable guy with a pleasing style.
But I predict he will still be around 270 on weigh in and we will all wonder how good he could be if he would get into and stay in shape. I hope I am wrong

[coneye]

We have seen this type of crap every time he is scheduled to fight. And then comes into the ring fat as hell.
I hope he is seriously in shape he is a likable guy with a pleasing style.
But I predict he will still be around 270 on weigh in and we will all wonder how good he could be if he would get into and stay in shape. I hope I am wrong

Do you know when the video was taken , on that he looks really good shape , but you can't always believe what you see ,

[Enlightened-One]

We have seen this type of crap every time he is scheduled to fight. And then comes into the ring fat as hell.
I hope he is seriously in shape he is a likable guy with a pleasing style.
But I predict he will still be around 270 on weigh in and we will all wonder how good he could be if he would get into and stay in shape. I hope I am wrong

Do you know when the video was taken , on that he looks really good shape , but you can't always believe what you see ,

The Tweet was only just posted.

It has to be very recent, because his tattoos are new.

[Bandog]

A short fat guy like that, losing a lot of weight should fight at cruiser.

I expect him to be flabby though. Can't just lose 80lbs of fat without loose, gross looking skin sag.

[margaret thatcher]

eo loves him some andy ruiz body progress

tbf he did drop quite a bit of weight last fight, so if he keeps on that track he could hit a career low

[Sweet Dick Willie]

I have no reason not to watch this fight.

[KiwiRider]

I have no reason not to watch this fight.

Me either, oh wait- it's PPV with a crappy undercard

[Bandog]

For Andy Ruiz, I hope, for his career, that he wins this fight. For his career to move forward, he HAS to win this fight.,

I don't think he does though, even though Ortiz is older tf. Ruiz's team needs to take the blame if he loses, and find new jobs. They have already proved their stupidity signing two fights at the same time. If Andy loses, and doesn't replace his entire team, he needs to retire.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Press conference tonight



Former Unified Heavyweight Champion Andy Ruiz Jr. & Top Contender Luis Ortiz Square Off in Much-Anticipated Clash Headlining FOX Sports PBC Pay-Per-View September 4 During Labor Day Weekend From
Crypto. com Arena in Los Angeles

Former unified heavyweight champion Andy “The Destroyer” Ruiz Jr. and top contender Luis “King Kong” Ortiz will meet in a much-anticipated 12-round WBC Heavyweight Title Eliminator headlining a FOX Sports PBC Pay-Per-View on September 4 in a Labor Day Weekend clash from Crypto.com Arena in Los Angeles.

The pay-per-view telecast will begin at 10 p.m. ET/7 p.m. PT and feature a stacked lineup of rising and accomplished stars in high-stakes matchups. In the co-main event, hard-hitting Isaac “Pitbull” Cruz will step in to take on fellow Mexican and veteran contender Eduardo Ramírez in a 12-round WBC Lightweight Title Eliminator in the co-main event.

The action will also see the return of popular three-division champion Abner Mares in his first action in three years as he battles former title challenger Miguel Flores in a 10-round super featherweight attraction, plus exciting rising star José Valenzuela duels former world champion Jezreel Corrales in the 10-round lightweight pay-per-view opener.

Tickets for the live event, which is promoted by TGB Promotions, go on sale tomorrow, Thursday, June 23 at 10 a.m. PT and can be purchased online at AXS.com

Pre-sale tickets are available NOW until 10 p.m. PT through AXS.com with the code: BOXING or CRYPTO

[Cyclops]

For Andy Ruiz, I hope, for his career, that he wins this fight. For his career to move forward, he HAS to win this fight.,

I don't think he does though, even though Ortiz is older tf. Ruiz's team needs to take the blame if he loses, and find new jobs. They have already proved their stupidity signing two fights at the same time. If Andy loses, and doesn't replace his entire team, he needs to retire.

Although he seems to recover OK, Ruiz has shown he can be hurt. Ortiz looked old and vulnerable until he switched Charles Martin's brain off standing up, so that he just stood there with his hands down looking at the crowd not knowing where he was.

Ortiz has quite a bit of a dig on him. Ruiz is a fat pig who lost ambition the moment he got the bag. The younger man should take it but I wouldn't be surprised to see him get stopped.

It's an interesting enough scrap.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Presser is on btw.

[mikebourkefan]

For Andy Ruiz, I hope, for his career, that he wins this fight. For his career to move forward, he HAS to win this fight.,

I don't think he does though, even though Ortiz is older tf. Ruiz's team needs to take the blame if he loses, and find new jobs. They have already proved their stupidity signing two fights at the same time. If Andy loses, and doesn't replace his entire team, he needs to retire.

Although he seems to recover OK, Ruiz has shown he can be hurt. Ortiz looked old and vulnerable until he switched Charles Martin's brain off standing up, so that he just stood there with his hands down looking at the crowd not knowing where he was.

Ortiz has quite a bit of a dig on him. Ruiz is a fat pig who lost ambition the moment he got the bag. The younger man should take it but I wouldn't be surprised to see him get stopped.

It's an interesting enough scrap.

in the Arreola fight Ruiz came in much lighter he was maybe 228lbs so not much of a "fat pig" anymore

[Enlightened-One]

Andy Ruiz Jr. has a very decent chin, a great engine, fast hands, throws punches in bunches and has excellent punch variety.

And even though we’ve seen him suffer a couple of flash knockdowns, I don’t think I’ve ever seen him truly hurt. He’s always recovered rather quickly.

But the Mexican-American isn’t a big puncher, which means his bouts usually goes the distance.

And he can also be outboxed when facing an opponent with a long reach, fighting on the outside, whilst employing a lot of lateral movement.

The thing is, Luis Ortiz is heavy-handed, is fundamentally-sound, has a long reach and is also capable of fighting on the outside, whilst employing a lot of lateral movement.

But the Cuban looked frail against Charles Martin. And was occasionally outworked, which led him to lose rounds, because he wasn’t throwing enough shots.

Anyway, I think I’m going to go with Andy Ruiz Jr. in this one.

I expect Luis Ortiz to start well and be on the back foot. The Cuban might also land a couple of decent shots to briefly trouble the Mexican-American.

But at some point, age will catch up with him and Ortiz will begin to fade, eventually lose the winning momentum and be outworked.

I think Ruiz Jr. can win this bout by late stoppage if Ortiz is brave and keeps trying to win, but the likelihood is that the Cuban will become defensive and will try his best to last the distance as soon as he realises he’s going to lose on points.

Of course, it’s entirely feasible that I could be proven wrong, especially if Ruiz Jr. can’t close the distance, but the Charles Martin bout has convinced me that the current iteration of Luis Ortiz is ready for the taking and is already destined to lose against the next world-class heavyweight opponent he faces.

[Bandog]

We all saw how much of a legacy building fight it was for Ugas, beating an old Manny Pac. Names on resumes don't tell the story.

Same with this fight. Ruiz should beat Ortiz. I predict he won't but glad it is happening. Both fought like fringe contenders in their last fights. Ruiz struggled with an old, over-weight, inactive Arreola his last fight. Ortiz struggled with a big southpaw that some say is the most over-rated all time heavy champ. Ruiz may say oh yeah? Hold my beer, and will take that title from Martin if he loses. PPV is a joke though, even with a decent undercard.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Wonder if they’ll charge $75 or maybe lower what they charged for Ortiz-Martin.

[Bandog]

Wonder if they’ll charge $75 or maybe lower what they charged for Ortiz-Martin.

To me, it would make sense if they charged something like 29.95. More people would buy it, end up with probably more money in the end, and bring more fans to the sport of boxing. You shouldn't have to be wealthy to enjoy a good boxing match. Not that 75 would break the bank, but a lot of people can't afford it.

[Cyclops]

For Andy Ruiz, I hope, for his career, that he wins this fight. For his career to move forward, he HAS to win this fight.,

I don't think he does though, even though Ortiz is older tf. Ruiz's team needs to take the blame if he loses, and find new jobs. They have already proved their stupidity signing two fights at the same time. If Andy loses, and doesn't replace his entire team, he needs to retire.

Although he seems to recover OK, Ruiz has shown he can be hurt. Ortiz looked old and vulnerable until he switched Charles Martin's brain off standing up, so that he just stood there with his hands down looking at the crowd not knowing where he was.

Ortiz has quite a bit of a dig on him. Ruiz is a fat pig who lost ambition the moment he got the bag. The younger man should take it but I wouldn't be surprised to see him get stopped.

It's an interesting enough scrap.

in the Arreola fight Ruiz came in much lighter he was maybe 228lbs so not much of a "fat pig" anymore

He was 256.

228.5 was Arreola's weight. You're looking in the wrong column on Boxrec.

[KiwiRider]

Wonder if they’ll charge $75 or maybe lower what they charged for Ortiz-Martin.

To me, it would make sense if they charged something like 29.95. More people would buy it, end up with probably more money in the end, and bring more fans to the sport of boxing. You shouldn't have to be wealthy to enjoy a good boxing match. Not that 75 would break the bank, but a lot of people can't afford it.

I can't believe we are even debating the price.
This ain't ppv. It just ain't.
Paying for it gives the message that it is, and more PPVs of this level will be made if they can get away with it. We have to make a stand and just say no.

[emallini]

Ortiz is on his last legs, Ruiz should get this done early.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Wonder if they’ll charge $75 or maybe lower what they charged for Ortiz-Martin.

To me, it would make sense if they charged something like 29.95. More people would buy it, end up with probably more money in the end, and bring more fans to the sport of boxing. You shouldn't have to be wealthy to enjoy a good boxing match. Not that 75 would break the bank, but a lot of people can't afford it.

I can't believe we are even debating the price.
This ain't ppv. It just ain't.
Paying for it gives the message that it is, and more PPVs of this level will be made if they can get away with it. We have to make a stand and just say no.

Fact is, it’s gonna be PPV and they are gonna be Charging.

Whether it should or shouldn’t be PPV is a different story.

[1057230]

Ortiz is on his last legs, Ruiz should get this done early.
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I highly doubt that.


not easy to catch the old man clean and even if an in shape and committed Ruiz should show up wanting to make a statement, I just don't see a short night's work for Andy.




sure in both wilder fights ortiz was down multiple times, but was literally physically restrained by the fuckin corrupt ref to get up again and continue (take wilder apart) and waived off without a count, cause they knew ortiz wasn't finished and wilder blowing out of his last hole. watch that shit again if u don't believe that's accurate.

[Bandog]

To be honest Ortiz vs Wilder 1 should have been stopped, with Ortiz getting the TKO. In the 2nd, Ortiz schooled Wilder until he got stopped. History.

Anyway, Ortiz struggled with Martin at times..southpaw are hard to prepare for. Ruiz? He struggled badly with a 40 yr old inactive guy Martin would have probably KOd.

Just a warning to the big betters, Ortiz is a very live dog in this one. Honestly I'd be surprised if he loses.

[Kronkpride]

To be honest Ortiz vs Wilder 1 should have been stopped, with Ortiz getting the TKO. In the 2nd, Ortiz schooled Wilder until he got stopped. History.

Anyway, Ortiz struggled with Martin at times..southpaw are hard to prepare for. Ruiz? He struggled badly with a 40 yr old inactive guy Martin would have probably KOd.

Just a warning to the big betters, Ortiz is a very live dog in this one. Honestly I'd be surprised if he loses.

Exactly. This is going to be 2 hungry dogs in a dog fight. The Mexico/Cuba deal is motivating both guys.

I think we will see the best of what both have left. But I think Ruiz is going to be the better dog in the end. Might have to get up to do it but he will do it.

Then I expect to see Ruiz/Joshua 3 rubber match after Joshua gets his arse outboxed again by Usyk. Ruiz is about to go snatch himself up a bunch more money before his story is over.

[DrDuke]

Ortiz is on his last legs, Ruiz should get this done early.

Yeah, after troubles against Martin it's hard to see Ortiz winning Ruiz.

[punchoutsb]

Ruiz is not that good, but got an inflated rating because he beat AJ who also not that good.

That being said, Ortiz really showed his age of about 60 against Martin, so I see Andy taking a wide UD.