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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered
Posted: 29 Dec 2021, 12:10
by Autobarn
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑29 Dec 2021, 08:36
I'm on Frank's side, Eddie Hearn and Rematchroom are ruining boxing.
It should be one and done.
If there is so much controversy or bullshit ending, a rematch CAN be made.
Don't always need rematch clauses.
do you remember when Warren had a monopoly, and every fight involving someone from a rival outfit ha£ to be on an FW promotion?
Not like FW didn’t take the plss when at the height of his powers.
Can’t remember if he had rematch clauses locked in for his fighters, though.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered
Posted: 29 Dec 2021, 12:33
by mickey1975
Autobarn wrote: ↑29 Dec 2021, 12:10
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑29 Dec 2021, 08:36
I'm on Frank's side, Eddie Hearn and Rematchroom are ruining boxing.
It should be one and done.
If there is so much controversy or bullshit ending, a rematch CAN be made.
Don't always need rematch clauses.
do you remember when Warren had a monopoly, and every fight involving someone from a rival outfit ha£ to be on an FW promotion?
Not like FW didn’t take the plss when at the height of his powers.
Can’t remember if he had rematch clauses locked in for his fighters, though.
Well he'd have definitely activated it for Gomez-Arthur if he had one.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered
Posted: 29 Dec 2021, 12:34
by margaret thatcher
how many good hw fights has fw put on in recent years compared to matchroom?
and who is the promoter with the guy who fought the same guy 3 times in 5 fights?
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered
Posted: 30 Dec 2021, 14:49
by gregregegg
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑29 Dec 2021, 12:34
how many good hw fights has fw put on in recent years compared to matchroom?
and who is the promoter with the guy who fought the same guy 3 times in 5 fights?
DDD vs gorman was a nice prospect clash... then DDD vs Joyce was an incredible prospect clash. outside of that seems like he hasnt put on a good heavyweight fight in many years.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered
Posted: 30 Dec 2021, 14:53
by Ruthless-RKO
gregregegg wrote: ↑30 Dec 2021, 14:49
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑29 Dec 2021, 12:34
how many good hw fights has fw put on in recent years compared to matchroom?
and who is the promoter with the guy who fought the same guy 3 times in 5 fights?
DDD vs gorman was a nice prospect clash... then DDD vs Joyce was an incredible prospect clash. outside of that seems like he hasnt put on a good heavyweight fight in many years.
He hasn’t got many decent HW’s has he?
Well most of them are prospects.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered
Posted: 30 Dec 2021, 15:01
by mickey1975
gregregegg wrote: ↑30 Dec 2021, 14:49
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑29 Dec 2021, 12:34
how many good hw fights has fw put on in recent years compared to matchroom?
and who is the promoter with the guy who fought the same guy 3 times in 5 fights?
DDD vs gorman was a nice prospect clash... then DDD vs Joyce was an incredible prospect clash. outside of that seems like he hasnt put on a good heavyweight fight in many years.
So apart from the two domestic showdowns? Who's done more?
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered
Posted: 30 Dec 2021, 15:24
by gregregegg
mickey1975 wrote: ↑30 Dec 2021, 15:01
gregregegg wrote: ↑30 Dec 2021, 14:49
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑29 Dec 2021, 12:34
how many good hw fights has fw put on in recent years compared to matchroom?
and who is the promoter with the guy who fought the same guy 3 times in 5 fights?
DDD vs gorman was a nice prospect clash... then DDD vs Joyce was an incredible prospect clash. outside of that seems like he hasnt put on a good heavyweight fight in many years.
So apart from the two domestic showdowns? Who's done more?
Obviosly there is no depth in the top end UK promoting world, but geeze the gap between frank and eddie when it comes to putting on heavyweight fights is pretty big.
Im assuming frank will have to find DDD, Joyce, Gorman, and whoever else he has fights soon, so mabey things will get better 2022. If they dont BoXXer might put on better heavyfights with there fresh young super star Hughie "young pup" Fury.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered
Posted: 30 Dec 2021, 15:26
by margaret thatcher
mickey1975 wrote: ↑30 Dec 2021, 15:01
gregregegg wrote: ↑30 Dec 2021, 14:49
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑29 Dec 2021, 12:34
how many good hw fights has fw put on in recent years compared to matchroom?
and who is the promoter with the guy who fought the same guy 3 times in 5 fights?
DDD vs gorman was a nice prospect clash... then DDD vs Joyce was an incredible prospect clash. outside of that seems like he hasnt put on a good heavyweight fight in many years.
So apart from the two domestic showdowns? Who's done more?
obviously big ed, even with those fights included. not even close
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered
Posted: 30 Dec 2021, 15:40
by mickey1975
Which one was more interesting than Dubois-Joyce?
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered
Posted: 30 Dec 2021, 18:15
by maverick23
mickey1975 wrote: ↑30 Dec 2021, 15:40
Which one was more interesting than Dubois-Joyce?
AJ/Usyk was pretty interesting.
I loved the Dubois/Joyce fight but it’s the only really good heavyweight Frank has promoted in several years. The first Fury/Wilder fight was PBC whilst the 2nd/3rd were PBC/Bob. Frank may have been in and around it but that’s about it.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered
Posted: 30 Dec 2021, 19:17
by jameswilson
maverick23 wrote: ↑30 Dec 2021, 18:15
mickey1975 wrote: ↑30 Dec 2021, 15:40
Which one was more interesting than Dubois-Joyce?
AJ/Usyk was pretty interesting.
Usyk is a blown up middleweight and AJ is a domestic level journeyman plodder.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered
Posted: 30 Dec 2021, 19:23
by margaret thatcher
jeez, reaching a bit here mick

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered
Posted: 30 Dec 2021, 19:30
by handsofstone
WBC ruling 80/20 in Fury's favour

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered
Posted: 30 Dec 2021, 19:46
by dan28uk
just see that didn’t fury’s team offer him 25 % whyte should just take the offer surely the belt and legacy should mean more
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered
Posted: 30 Dec 2021, 20:49
by Blueprint
Eddie will want this to go to purse bid
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered
Posted: 30 Dec 2021, 21:26
by mickey1975
Blueprint wrote: ↑30 Dec 2021, 20:49
Eddie will want this to go to purse bid
He's not very good at purse bids. To win, he's going to have to dig deep.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered
Posted: 31 Dec 2021, 01:40
by gregregegg
dan28uk wrote: ↑30 Dec 2021, 19:46
just see that didn’t fury’s team offer him 25 % whyte should just take the offer surely the belt and legacy should mean more
yea 25% 5 mill garrentee. At this point you either take that or have to dig into a legal battle to try get more... ultimently these governing bodies will always have a "its our call " clause i imagine. hope he just takes it (if its still available).
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered
Posted: 31 Dec 2021, 04:18
by handsofstone
I can't stand Whyte tbh but him and Fury's a great fight and I want to see it, I seen something about the WBC's rules regarding mandatory challengers, 70/30 was the minimum split so why they fornicating about like this, dragging it on?
Sulaiman is pure vermin boxing needs rid of him and his like, Whyte is a self entitled drug cheat who although has earned his shot has also turned down multiple opportunities at title fights eliminators etc, Fury another cheat who has no real plans to reign as champ and defend the title like a champion, if the fight comes off hopefully we get Renda/Samuels relived except both are starched cold and Usyk picks up the scraps
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered
Posted: 31 Dec 2021, 04:30
by Boxing Prospect
maverick23 wrote: ↑30 Dec 2021, 18:15
mickey1975 wrote: ↑30 Dec 2021, 15:40
Which one was more interesting than Dubois-Joyce?
AJ/Usyk was pretty interesting.
Was also ordered by the WBO, so not sure we can give Eddie all the credit for the fact Usyk was Joshua's mandatory
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered
Posted: 31 Dec 2021, 05:12
by mickey1975
handsofstone wrote: ↑31 Dec 2021, 04:18
I can't stand Whyte tbh but him and Fury's a great fight and I want to see it, I seen something about the WBC's rules regarding mandatory challengers, 70/30 was the minimum split so why they fornicating about like this, dragging it on?
Sulaiman is pure vermin boxing needs rid of him and his like, Whyte is a self entitled drug cheat who although has earned his shot has also turned down multiple opportunities at title fights eliminators etc, Fury another cheat who has no real plans to reign as champ and defend the title like a champion, if the fight comes off hopefully we get Renda/Samuels relived except both are starched cold and Usyk picks up the scraps
Nowhere near as good as Lenny Godber's fight in Porridge.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered
Posted: 31 Dec 2021, 05:13
by mickey1975
Boxing Prospect wrote: ↑31 Dec 2021, 04:30
maverick23 wrote: ↑30 Dec 2021, 18:15
mickey1975 wrote: ↑30 Dec 2021, 15:40
Which one was more interesting than Dubois-Joyce?
AJ/Usyk was pretty interesting.
Was also ordered by the WBO, so not sure we can give Eddie all the credit for the fact Usyk was Joshua's mandatory
People reckon they did everything they could to avoid facing Usyk.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered
Posted: 31 Dec 2021, 06:02
by gregregegg
Boxing Prospect wrote: ↑31 Dec 2021, 04:30
maverick23 wrote: ↑30 Dec 2021, 18:15
mickey1975 wrote: ↑30 Dec 2021, 15:40
Which one was more interesting than Dubois-Joyce?
AJ/Usyk was pretty interesting.
Was also ordered by the WBO, so not sure we can give Eddie all the credit for the fact Usyk was Joshua's mandatory
Joyce vs DDD was a British title mandatory that neither would back out of. Frank was vocal about him not even wanting to make the fight...
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered
Posted: 31 Dec 2021, 06:51
by Ruthless-RKO
gregregegg wrote: ↑31 Dec 2021, 01:40
dan28uk wrote: ↑30 Dec 2021, 19:46
just see that didn’t fury’s team offer him 25 % whyte should just take the offer surely the belt and legacy should mean more
yea 25% 5 mill garrentee. At this point you either take that or have to dig into a legal battle to try get more... ultimently these governing bodies will always have a "its our call " clause i imagine. hope he just takes it (if its still available).
Winning bid would need to be $20m+ for Whyte to get exactly what he was offered anyway.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered
Posted: 31 Dec 2021, 07:32
by Dioufy
Whyte currently looking like a stupid pudendum
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered
Posted: 31 Dec 2021, 07:36
by Dioufy
Would love Top Rank to come in with a low offer and let Hearn host it by having to pay big for the fight to please Whyte.
Fight won’t happen.
Fury will fight Helenius for the belt in March.
Whyte will try an different organisation and get splashed again en route.