Jermell Charlo vs. Brian Castano II | Showtime - May 14, 2022

Who wins?

Poll ended at 14 May 2022, 13:24

Charlo - Decision
16
32%
Charlo - T/KO
8
16%
DRAW
2
4%
Castano - T/KO
6
12%
Castano - Decision
18
36%
 
Total votes: 50

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Re: Jermell Charlo vs. Brian Castano II | Showtime - May 14, 2022

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Enlightened-One wrote: 16 May 2022, 12:44
Mexi-Box wrote: 16 May 2022, 12:27
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 16 May 2022, 11:09

Haba! That’s what you get don’t you.

These kinda mistakes are way more common now.
Spence sounds soft as hell here. What happened to American fighters? Spence should say he wants to fight Charlo, not get replaced by him on the p4p list. Seriously, American boxing feels dead. Soft mentality.
They are very close friends and both have said they aren’t willing to fight each other, unless someone coughs up stupid money (i.e. more than $50m).

And no one will pay those guys that sum to stage the bout.
Sawft as hell. Like if Hagler and Hearns wouldn't fight each other. The only thing that is excusable is if they're brothers. May as well have inclusive P4P lists. Best friends get put next to each other.

I'm rooting for Crawford now. At least Crawford wouldn't say this soft stuff. He wanted to replace Canelo, not be his friend.
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Re: Jermell Charlo vs. Brian Castano II | Showtime - May 14, 2022

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I'd like to see Crawford beat up the charlo brothers.

there u got the 'big money' fights that Crawford and especially the twins so desperately seek.

bud should hold back a bit in the first, he'll still fvck him up but make it look 'competitive' then knock the 'rematch expert' out cold in their rematch.

that would make the 'big' bro swear brutalizing eternal brotherly revenge on bud and bud fvck him up too.

fvck up Spence and hang em up.

I'd favour Crawford against anyone up to middleweight.

he'd fvck up canelo too if they'd meet somewhere around 160. easy fight for bud.

not talking about the judges.
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Re: Jermell Charlo vs. Brian Castano II | Showtime - May 14, 2022

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Charlo-Castano Peaked At 832,000 Viewers; Showtime's Most-Watched Fight In Nearly 3 Years

Jermell Charlo and Brian Castano drew Showtime’s biggest audience for live boxing in nearly three years Saturday night.

Nielsen Media Research released figures Tuesday that indicated an average audience of 756,000 watched their fantastic “Fight of the Year” candidate. Showtime’s audience peaked at 832,000 during a 154-pound title unification rematch that Charlo won by 10th-round knockout at Dignity Health Sports Park in Carson, California.

Those numbers were the highest for Showtime since Deontay Wilder’s first-round knockout of Dominic Breazeale in May 2019 at Barclays Center in Brooklyn. Wilder’s spectacular stoppage of Breazeale attracted an average audience of 795,000 on Showtime’s linear channel and a combined average viewership of 886,000 on Showtime’s linear channel and streaming service.

There wasn’t time for that audience to grow because Wilder needed just two minutes and 17 seconds to knock out Breazeale, who was the mandatory challenger for Wilder’s WBC heavyweight title.

Streaming viewership for the Charlo-Castano rematch wasn’t available as of Tuesday afternoon. Paramount Global, the parent company of Showtime and BS.com, doesn’t typically release streaming numbers, which are not tracked by Nielsen.

Nevertheless, viewership Saturday night easily surpassed Showtime’s most-watched boxing main event of 2021 – the controversial 12-round split draw between Charlo and Castano last July 17 from AT&T Center in San Antonio. Their first fight drew an average viewership of 422,000 and a peak viewership of 536,000.

Their rematch Saturday night was even more fan-friendly than their initial action-packed encounter.

Charlo, who fought effectively off his back foot throughout their bout, and an aggressive Castano exchanged flush punches on numerous occasions before Charlo sent Castano to the canvas twice during the 10th round. The taller, stronger Charlo made adjustments and eventually broke down Castano in what was a high-level, closely contested bout before Charlo began building a sizable lead during the final few rounds.

Ahead 89-82, 88-83 and 87-84 through nine rounds, Charlo landed a left hook that knocked Castano to one knee with 52 seconds to go in the 10th round. Castano answered referee Jerry Cantu’s count at five, but Charlo capitalized by attacking his vulnerable opponent.

A left uppercut to Castano’s head and a left to his body sent Castano to his gloves and knees a second time, with 34 seconds to go in the 10th round. Cantu called an end to their 12-round rematch at 2:33 of the 10th round as Castano struggled to reach his feet a second time.

Houston’s Charlo (35-1-1, 19 KOs) defended his IBF, WBA and WBC 154-pound championships and won the WBO junior middleweight title from Buenos Aires’ Castano (17-1-2, 12 KOs). Charlo also became just the seventh undisputed champion in any division during boxing’s four-belt era.

Earlier Saturday night, an average of 450,000 viewers tuned in for Showtime’s co-feature – rising welterweight star Jaron Ennis’ second-round knockout of previously unbeaten Custio Clayton. Philadelphia’s Ennis (29-0, 27 KOs, 1 NC) landed a right hand to the top and back of Clayton’s head that left Canada’s Clayton (19-1-1, 12 KOs) unable to continue after he beat referee Ray Corona’s count.
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Re: Jermell Charlo vs. Brian Castano II | Showtime - May 14, 2022

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Its soft when they say that. In reality they would make lots of money, friends or not. Good friends help each other to make big money. Its a sport.

Spence vs Mell @ 154 would be a big money fights same like Spence vs Crawford.

:box:
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Re: Jermell Charlo vs. Brian Castano II | Showtime - May 14, 2022

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they each make their 'big' money if they take on the top guys on their list without fighting each other.

u have to go in there with the intent to kill against this level of opposition.

do that to your 'brother'

guess you're a stone cold killer. guess they are not.
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Re: Jermell Charlo vs. Brian Castano II | Showtime - May 14, 2022

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apollo creed wrote: 17 May 2022, 17:26 Its soft when they say that. In reality they would make lots of money, friends or not. Good friends help each other to make big money. Its a sport.

Spence vs Mell @ 154 would be a big money fights same like Spence vs Crawford.

:box:
Pipe dream. Mell would never fight Spence he's said, probably because he knows how sparring has went over the years.
Mell will move up to 160, Mall to 168. Spence will move to 154 after beating up Crawford. You heard it here first! Lol
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Re: Jermell Charlo vs. Brian Castano II | Showtime - May 14, 2022

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nobody 'beating up' bud at 154.

definitely not spence.

YOU heard it HERE first. rofl :OhYes:
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Re: Jermell Charlo vs. Brian Castano II | Showtime - May 14, 2022

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I think TC would beat Spence and Charlo but time is ticking away so fast. Spence vs TC needs to happen this year, period! :box:

Bud is 34 y/o.
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Re: Jermell Charlo vs. Brian Castano II | Showtime - May 14, 2022

Post by gregregegg »

What is actualy ment to happen if a punch lands back of the head and finnishes the fight but it clearly wasnt intentional and was in open play and thrown while both fighters were face to face.

back of the head rule matters mainly in the clinch, rarely if you creat a crazy angle on somone, but i cant say iv ever seen it called in open play when both guys are fighting each other.

example, I think Boots shot landed clean back of head, though i think boots should still win by KO, But what should actualy happen by the rulebook? (if its deemed to have indeed landed back of the head)?
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Re: Jermell Charlo vs. Brian Castano II | Showtime - May 14, 2022

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TBRB entered Jermell Charlo at #10..

They made a good argument as to why he isn't higher.. From their homepage.

Charlo also debuts into the P4P List at #10. Several members thought he deserved a higher spot.

There is a lot of nonsense flying around about how Charlo has now “made history” with his 4-belt unification win. Don’t believe the hype. A closer look reminds us of the folly of following belts:

1. Charlo won the IBF belt. We can trace that succession -loosely termed- back to February 2017 when Jarrett Hurd fought Tony Harrison for the vacant “championship.” Neither Hurd nor Harrison were ranked at the time. How then, could the winner of that bout (Hurd) be recognized as a champion when there were at least ten more deserving contenders ahead of him and his challenger?

2. Charlo won the WBC belt. We can trace that succession to May 2016, when Charlo defeated John Jackson for the vacant belt. The problem is that Charlo was ranked #4, while Jackson was not ranked at all.

3. Charlo won the WBO belt. That one goes back to February 2021, when Castano defeated Patrick Teixeira for the vacant belt. Castano was ranked #5 and Teixeira #9. That is rightly considered a bout between contenders and nothing more.

4. Charlo won the WBA “Super World Super Welterweight” title. That’s a hard one to trace and so silly a belt, who wants too?
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Re: Jermell Charlo vs. Brian Castano II | Showtime - May 14, 2022

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 19 May 2022, 06:58 TBRB entered Jermell Charlo at #10..

They made a good argument as to why he isn't higher.. From their homepage.

Charlo also debuts into the P4P List at #10. Several members thought he deserved a higher spot.

There is a lot of nonsense flying around about how Charlo has now “made history” with his 4-belt unification win. Don’t believe the hype. A closer look reminds us of the folly of following belts:

1. Charlo won the IBF belt. We can trace that succession -loosely termed- back to February 2017 when Jarrett Hurd fought Tony Harrison for the vacant “championship.” Neither Hurd nor Harrison were ranked at the time. How then, could the winner of that bout (Hurd) be recognized as a champion when there were at least ten more deserving contenders ahead of him and his challenger?

2. Charlo won the WBC belt. We can trace that succession to May 2016, when Charlo defeated John Jackson for the vacant belt. The problem is that Charlo was ranked #4, while Jackson was not ranked at all.

3. Charlo won the WBO belt. That one goes back to February 2021, when Castano defeated Patrick Teixeira for the vacant belt. Castano was ranked #5 and Teixeira #9. That is rightly considered a bout between contenders and nothing more.

4. Charlo won the WBA “Super World Super Welterweight” title. That’s a hard one to trace and so silly a belt, who wants too?
that's how 'history' is made.

charlo still will be forever in the record books as 'first unified 4 belt champ'. he accomplished an achievement regarded 'historical' in boxing.

hysterical.
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Re: Jermell Charlo vs. Brian Castano II | Showtime - May 14, 2022

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adislav123 wrote: 18 May 2022, 22:54 nobody 'beating up' bud at 154.

definitely not spence.

YOU heard it HERE first. rofl :OhYes:
Mmmmmm…. Bud won’t be a weight bully at 154lbs.

Crawford is damn good though, but he’d be very beatable at 154lbs.
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Re: Jermell Charlo vs. Brian Castano II | Showtime - May 14, 2022

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Enlightened-One wrote: 19 May 2022, 14:24
adislav123 wrote: 18 May 2022, 22:54 nobody 'beating up' bud at 154.

definitely not spence.

YOU heard it HERE first. rofl :OhYes:
Mmmmmm…. Bud won’t be a weight bully at 154lbs.

Crawford is damn good though, but he’d be very beatable at 154lbs.
Guy who was able to make 135 lbs definitely isnt a weight bully at 147. And i agree with poster above, Spence at 147 present far more threat for Crawford than anyone at 154.
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Re: Jermell Charlo vs. Brian Castano II | Showtime - May 14, 2022

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Calling Crawford a weight bully? Is there someone dumb enough to do that? :lol:

Let me guess. It's the same guy that called Bivol a hype job? :OhYes:
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Re: Jermell Charlo vs. Brian Castano II | Showtime - May 14, 2022

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The problem about 34 y/o TC is that he has no career marquee-defining fight. He should push it for Spence or Mell.
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Re: Jermell Charlo vs. Brian Castano II | Showtime - May 14, 2022

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Bandog wrote: 20 May 2022, 19:30 Calling Crawford a weight bully? Is there someone dumb enough to do that? :lol:
I’m “dumb enough” to accuse Terence Crawford of previously being a weight bully.

I can quote plenty of stats if you’re brave enough (or “dumb enough”) to debate this matter with me?

What do you say kid? Do you fancy being embarrassed?
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Enlightened-One wrote: 21 May 2022, 20:17
Bandog wrote: 20 May 2022, 19:30 Calling Crawford a weight bully? Is there someone dumb enough to do that? :lol:
I’m “dumb enough” to accuse Terence Crawford of previously being a weight bully.

I can quote plenty of stats if you’re brave enough (or “dumb enough”) to debate this matter with me?

What do you say kid? Do you fancy being embarrassed?
I should have said anyone besides EO, because I know you are dumb enough. You called Bivol a hypejob, and thought his fight with Canelo a draw? Your credibility is currently at an all time low. Go away little punk.
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I understand Spence and Charlo will not be fighting each other because they are "buddies" ??????
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Re: Jermell Charlo vs. Brian Castano II | Showtime - May 14, 2022

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Cent0089 wrote: 23 May 2022, 13:41 I understand Spence and Charlo will not be fighting each other because they are "buddies" ??????
Apparently.

That's the softest thing I've ever heard saying you don't care if someone replaces you on the p4p list. I lost all respect for Spence Jr. now.

It's like Michael Jordan teaming up with Larry Byrd. Jordan wanted to be the best, not be second best. Same with Ali and Fraizer who were supposedly friends before they fought. They should've both shared the belts instead of fighting each other! :brick:
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Mexi-Box wrote: 25 May 2022, 21:16
Cent0089 wrote: 23 May 2022, 13:41 I understand Spence and Charlo will not be fighting each other because they are "buddies" ??????
Apparently.

That's the softest thing I've ever heard saying you don't care if someone replaces you on the p4p list. I lost all respect for Spence Jr. now.

It's like Michael Jordan teaming up with Larry Byrd. Jordan wanted to be the best, not be second best. Same with Ali and Fraizer who were supposedly friends before they fought. They should've both shared the belts instead of fighting each other! :brick:
What a BS. Then f"ck Spence, i will root 100% on Crawford in that fight. He already said he will go for Charlo and Spence
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secret photo of mell and spence

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Hahaha!
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:lol: I hope people humiliated Spence Jr. on Twitter. As I said, you can't get any softer than him right now. I hope we get rid of all "best friends." This crap needs to end.

The only thing is blood relative, but other than that, this is a business/sport, not a freaking social club!
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Re: Jermell Charlo vs. Brian Castano II | Showtime - May 14, 2022

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Spence vs Mell is the fight that needs to happen. Maybe this "buddies" thing is just a marketing ploy to increase the demand?
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