Round-by-Round: Luis Ortiz vs. Charles Martin - January 1, 2021

[ironbeard]

Ortiz’s legs are gone. Martin should have been able to finish him. Ortiz deserves credit for gutting out the win, and he can still bluff his way to some Ws with his power, but he has very little chance v anyone top 15 now.

Do you mean Ortiz's legs are gone- as in from the beginning?
Because I noticed right from the start he was not steady on his feet, a lot like Lucas Browne is now. Like a top heavy spinning top on a slowing spin. That power jab from Martin sat Ortiz on his backside so fast it was like his legs were swept out from under him. And punch resistance, is it there still? I'm not so sure.
The first KD was a definite back of the head shot, and both guys share blame for it. So I'm not counting that as in punch resistance.
But the KD from the jab- a bit of a concern because Ortiz wasn't rocked or coming off some hard shots, it was 'bang' jab connects, Ortiz goes down. I've watched it a few times now.
My takeaway from the fight was Martin has improved, Ortiz's on the slide, and a lucky punch or two changed what was a one sided romp to a wide decision.

From the beginning. Ortiz is looking a tad like SMartinez at the end of his career; ANY decent shot turning him into a Weeble-wobble. He was wobbled a number of times during the fight.

Just watching him walk kind of tips it off. He walks with a locked knee gate.

Martin has definitely improved. He should have been able to finish that off last night.

[KiwiRider]

Ortiz’s legs are gone. Martin should have been able to finish him. Ortiz deserves credit for gutting out the win, and he can still bluff his way to some Ws with his power, but he has very little chance v anyone top 15 now.

Do you mean Ortiz's legs are gone- as in from the beginning?
Because I noticed right from the start he was not steady on his feet, a lot like Lucas Browne is now. Like a top heavy spinning top on a slowing spin. That power jab from Martin sat Ortiz on his backside so fast it was like his legs were swept out from under him. And punch resistance, is it there still? I'm not so sure.
The first KD was a definite back of the head shot, and both guys share blame for it. So I'm not counting that as in punch resistance.
But the KD from the jab- a bit of a concern because Ortiz wasn't rocked or coming off some hard shots, it was 'bang' jab connects, Ortiz goes down. I've watched it a few times now.
My takeaway from the fight was Martin has improved, Ortiz's on the slide, and a lucky punch or two changed what was a one sided romp to a wide decision.

From the beginning. Ortiz is looking a tad like SMartinez at the end of his career; ANY decent shot turning him into a Weeble-wobble. He was wobbled a number of times during the fight.

Just watching him walk kind of tips it off. He walks with a locked knee gate.

Martin has definitely improved. He should have been able to finish that off last night.

Sweet, good to know it wasn't just me thinking he was a bit new born foal from the beginning.
It's an age thing for sure. And yes I noticed his punch resistance is suspect more than the power jab showed, his knees went to buckle a few times aside from the knock downs. Its a bit of a shame that age has got him, because he was very decent in his mid 30's, shame he waited so long to turn pro, and double shame his big chance against Wilder came after he was on the slide.

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CompuBox Stats

[KiwiRider]

That punch stat for Ortiz is way off what I saw. They must be counting shots taken on the arms and gloves.
I thought the action, taken in context of a HW fight, was medium-not slow and not frenetic.
But by that punch count it was slow.
They should do the compubox after the fight on 1/2 speed with 3 people from 3 different camera views and get the aggregate of a fight.

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

Fun fight

Martin improved- his footwork has always been poor but he managed to overcome it by throwing down the pipe using his skillset properly

Ortiz didnt look shot to me. He never has had great lungs and he is hittable. He was always in position though and countered well with his left. Finished qell when martin was hurt

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[handsofstone]

PBC need to learn how to make highlight videos.

They need to learn from DAZN.

I put them on when I got up this morning, wtf were they highlights all about? Under 3 minutes and first minute and a half was intros, then we got Martin dropping Ortiz twice without replays then it just cuts to Martin lying with his hand tangled in ropes, next thing we're seeing Ortiz being announced as winner by TKO, an absolute shambles in editing

[Ruthless-RKO]

PBC need to learn how to make highlight videos.

They need to learn from DAZN.

I put them on when I got up this morning, wtf were they highlights all about? Under 3 minutes and first minute and a half was intros, then we got Martin dropping Ortiz twice without replays then it just cuts to Martin lying with his hand tangled in ropes, next thing we're seeing Ortiz being announced as winner by TKO, an absolute shambles in editing

Exactly what I thought

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CompuBox: Hammer Tied Record For Fewest Punches Landed in 10 Round Fight

[margaret thatcher]

history maker christian hammer, can't wait to see him again

[Ruthless-RKO]

history maker christian hammer, can't wait to see him again

I didn’t bother reading the article to see who he wasn’t tied with.

[Ruthless-RKO]

history maker christian hammer, can't wait to see him again

Here we go..

Hammer tied the record for the fewest punches landed in a 10 round fight. Bogdan Mitic also landed just 24 punches in his 10 round loss to Frankie Gavin in March of 2015....

[Tony1244]

Martin's arm getting tied in the ropes was so flukish it looked like an ol' pro rasslin ending.

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

Martin's arm getting tied in the ropes was so flukish it looked like an ol' pro rasslin ending.

That was something ive never seen before. I was hoping it would somehow save him

[ironbeard]

Martin's arm getting tied in the ropes was so flukish it looked like an ol' pro rasslin ending.

That was something ive never seen before. I was hoping it would somehow save him

Martin is such an awkward, clumsy, unorthodox oaf that I was surprisingly unsurprised by his entrapment of himself in the ropes. I imagine that he breaks things wherever he goes, running into people, stepping on kittens, knocking plates and cups of tables.

Then he just stands there staring at his handiwork, vacantly.

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Ex-undisputed champion Riddick Bowe badly mistaken on PPV broadcast



‘Big Daddy’ Bowe, who ruled the division during the nineties and is a boxing legend, rubbed shoulders with Premier Boxing Champions and FOX PPV organizers at ringside.

But when it came to showing Bowe on the big screen and giving him his props, the director of the televised portion got it badly wrong.

They focused on a completely different man, and boxing fans showed their dismay at the shocker.

“WTF! That’s his stunt double, not Riddick at all!” – said one disgruntled purchaser.

“Another stated: “If you look up all-time great, there’s an actual picture of Riddick Bowe. How can somebody in charge of a Pay Per View event get it that wrong?”

Eventually, the correct Bowe got shown on the broadcast. However, the TV text already did the damage.

It’s not as if Bowe hasn’t been in the headlines lately, just in case the producer of the Pay Per View is a millennial bereft of 1990s heavyweight knowledge.

The former Olympic silver medalist was all over the media last year after wanting to compete in a celebrity boxing match. The news came despite Bowe being poorly out of shape and barely capable of maneuvering in his day-to-day life.

[margaret thatcher]

tbf it looks a hell of a lot like him

[Bandog]

Martin's arm getting tied in the ropes was so flukish it looked like an ol' pro rasslin ending.

That was something ive never seen before. I was hoping it would somehow save him

Martin is such an awkward, clumsy, unorthodox oaf that I was surprisingly unsurprised by his entrapment of himself in the ropes. I imagine that he breaks things wherever he goes, running into people, stepping on kittens, knocking plates and cups of tables.

Then he just stands there staring at his handiwork, vacantly.

Stepping on kittens? Struck me funny.

[oogiebe]

tbf it looks a hell of a lot like him

Nah, you'd never say, "hey! that's riddick bowe" seeing that guy.

[ironbeard]

That was something ive never seen before. I was hoping it would somehow save him

Martin is such an awkward, clumsy, unorthodox oaf that I was surprisingly unsurprised by his entrapment of himself in the ropes. I imagine that he breaks things wherever he goes, running into people, stepping on kittens, knocking plates and cups of tables.

Then he just stands there staring at his handiwork, vacantly.

Stepping on kittens? Struck me funny.

Unconsciously though without conscience.

[margaret thatcher]

tbf it looks a hell of a lot like him

Nah, you'd never say, "hey! that's riddick bowe" seeing that guy.

i dunno man, i think they look pretty similar, maybe dude can get into the riddick bowe impersonator business. although the market aint so hawt for that these days

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Lennox Lewis and Riddick Bowe in awkward meeting at PBC Pay Per View





Former heavyweight rivals Lennox Lewis and Riddick Bowe engaged in an awkward meeting on New Year’s Day as the Pay Per View cameras rolled.

Lewis and Bowe, who harbor over three decades of bad blood stemming from an Olympic final in 1988 and a failed WBC title fight five years later, were captured at the Luis Ortiz vs. Charles Martin fight.

Reporter Elie Seckbach was ‘Johnny on the Spot’ as his eagle eyes recorded the incident as it happened.

It seemed to show Lewis looking very unsure about the advances of Bowe at first. Eventually, Lewis posed for a picture after they spoke which got shared by ring announcer Ray Flores.

Almost thirty years on from the World Boxing Council ordering Bowe to defend his green and gold belt against Lewis, the number one contender at that time, things still don’t seem one hundred percent with the pair of legends.

Bowe was friendly enough as they chatted away and looked respectful of Lewis. However, the Briton certainly had his game face on for ‘Big Daddy.’

‘The Pugilist Specialist’ was robbed of his crowning night by Bowe, having been favored to topple the undisputed champion. Lewis had already beaten Bowe in 1988 at the Seoul Games when promising to knock him out at a previous meeting.



LENNOX LEWIS BEEF

In an appearance on Drink Champs just last year, Lewis opened up on what originally went down in South Korea.

“Nobody knew (about 1988). It was a secret between us guys. When he boxed Holyfield and came out of the ring, he walked past me for some reason.

“I don’t know if it was on purpose, but he was saying, “you’re not right.” And I was like, “what the hell are you talking about?

“Anyway, (I said in 1993) I’m going to knock you out (again, like the Olympics in 1988). Because he remembered the first one, I said it to him again.

“Then he got all heated. Then, he never fought me. He never fought me. He put the belt, the WBC belt, in the garbage, which is a disrespect.”

The fight never happened to the detriment of the sport. Since then, Lewis and Bowe have both gotten linked to exhibitions.

Rumors persist that Lewis will fight Mike Tyson in a move-around event. Meanwhile, Bowe canceled his return at 52 after being denied a license.

[DrDuke]

Lennox Lewis and Riddick Bowe in awkward meeting at PBC Pay Per View

Bowe finally decided to stop attempts to terrorize Lewis. Lennox didn't seem to believe that.

[Enlightened-One]

Lennox Lewis and Riddick Bowe in awkward meeting at PBC Pay Per View

It's hard to believe that Riddick Bowe is younger than Lennox Lewis, Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield:

Those guys (in terms of physique and facially) appear ten to fifteen years younger.

Riddick has also shrunk considerably, since he used to be the same height as Lennox.

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Lennox Lewis and Riddick Bowe in awkward meeting at PBC Pay Per View

It's hard to believe that Riddick Bowe is younger than Lennox Lewis, Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield:

Those guys (in terms of physique and facially) appear ten to fifteen years younger.

Riddick has also shrunk considerably, since he used to be the same height as Lennox.

Sometimes you get older and begin to crouch.

Looks like he can't even stand straight,

[Enlightened-One]

Lennox Lewis and Riddick Bowe in awkward meeting at PBC Pay Per View

It's hard to believe that Riddick Bowe is younger than Lennox Lewis, Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield:

Those guys (in terms of physique and facially) appear ten to fifteen years younger.

Riddick has also shrunk considerably, since he used to be the same height as Lennox.

Sometimes you get older and begin to crouch.

Looks like he can't even stand straight,

I wonder if he's got a bad back?

I saw photos of him attending the IBHoF with his close buddy, Evander Holyfield and they appeared to be roughly the same height.

And if he's aging quicker than his peers that fought during the same era, then he'll inevitably shrink quicker than them too, because everyone gets shorter with age.

Without intending to be needlessly facetious, the 72-year-old George Foreman currently looks younger than Riddick Bowe.

It's such a shame, Bowe has obviously had a lot of personal issues outside the ring.