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Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑26 Mar 2022, 20:29It’s two fights in a row now.

Once a blip, twice a Trend.

I'll dig up the Lara rematch tomorrow, 'cause I've not seen it.

digzee wrote: ↑26 Mar 2022, 20:30if he was letting Josh tire himself out he waited too long.

Kiko didn't complain when the ref stepped in and he looked tired walking back to his corner which says to me the ref was right

Agreed he waited too long, and despite disagreeing with the timing of the stoppage, was happy to see him saved from further punishment. Brave fighters are the hardest to ref, where a premature stoppage is an insult, but a late one potentially catastrophic.

I'd have been looking to give Kiko another couple of rounds, since he'd recently hurt Warrington and wasn't in survival mode. But at least we all agree it's far from the worst stoppage we've seen.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑26 Mar 2022, 20:37 It’s his new strategy. Headbutt his opponent early and cause cuts and then work away..

Bring on Woodie to put him to sleep.

Well done Josh........put it on him from the start. Kiko is always dangerous and an absolute warrior. The cuts obviously made a difference. But as someone else once said 'it's not a tickling contest'.

digzee wrote: ↑26 Mar 2022, 20:30

gregregegg wrote: ↑26 Mar 2022, 19:59

digzee wrote: ↑26 Mar 2022, 19:54 It's not easy fighting a shorter fighter it can often get messy, I don't think Josh went in intentionally to fight dirty

He isn't lining him up and just nutting him. But he gets his head shoulder and elbows in, then actively pushes people into the ropes with em. And not like a smooth push like jerking shove movements, you do that enough and your going to cut people. To me it doesn't have to be intentionally whacking somone with a foul but if how you fight leads to 50 acedentsl fouls then you can't just pass them up as acedents.

That's just boxing for you I didn't see it as illegal but rather a bit dirty. It's something AJ needs to learn to be honest, Fury does it brilliantly. Every boxer needs to learn the dark arts to get every advantage they can

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑26 Mar 2022, 19:56 funnily enough his head still found the mark straight away vs same height mauricio lara

Watch Lara's last fight he gets into trouble with the head himself as well

Grilling Machine wrote: ↑26 Mar 2022, 19:58

digzee wrote: ↑26 Mar 2022, 19:46Watching it live I thought it was an early stoppage but after seeing the replay it wasn't a bad stoppage, I would've liked to have seen a conclusive ending but it is what it is

I felt Kiko was trapped square and elected to weave instead of punch because he wasn't set to deliver much power. Waiting for a gap to reset that never came, while Warrington sensed the ref and didn't cease.

Not saying he wasn't hurt because he was, but had his wits about him re: tactics. He probably should've crossarmed to guard liver and chin and bundled forward into a clinch. At least after a few unanswered shots, when we know home refs are lightfooted.

Yeah he got caught square and got backed up onto the ropes, Josh then swarmed him and although not every punch landed the ones that did land looked like they rocked him a little, if he was letting Josh tire himself out he waited too long.

Kiko didn't complain when the ref stepped in and he looked tired walking back to his corner which says to me the ref was right

But it's not boxing. A bit of rough and tumble is one thing but if your are causing all your damage with shoulders elbows and heads it's a different sport. Fouls don't have to be fully intentional to be fouls. If your irrisponsably swinging your head and elbows around and they hit they are fouls. Otherwise anytime a little unit is fighting a tall bloke they would just wrecklessly lead with there head and there opponent would have to just eat it.

It's one thing to lean on someone, it's another to lean on them with your head and elbow then constantly move back and forwards or up and down.

You gotta learn to be rough but if an away corner fought like Warrington they would lose 17 points per fight...

Josh can’t do right for doing wrong with some fans because of petty football affiliations. I think after the Lara defeat to come back to this is a heck of an achievement and I congratulate him

Steveh583 wrote: ↑27 Mar 2022, 02:21 Josh can’t do right for doing wrong with some fans because of petty football affiliations. I think after the Lara defeat to come back to this is a heck of an achievement and I congratulate him

i've been a fan of his for years and still dont like how he handled himself at, plus he cut his opponent almost straight away last fight with a foul too. i dont follow football and i think being dirty is almost universally an unliked feature , not something ppl only get after warrington for

it's not always fans being totally over the top moaners mate

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑27 Mar 2022, 02:23

Steveh583 wrote: ↑27 Mar 2022, 02:21 Josh can’t do right for doing wrong with some fans because of petty football affiliations. I think after the Lara defeat to come back to this is a heck of an achievement and I congratulate him

i've been a fan of his for years and still dont like how he handled himself at, plus he cut his opponent almost straight away last fight with a foul too. i dont follow football and i think being dirty is almost universally an unliked feature , not something ppl only get after warrington for

it's not always fans being totally over the top moaners mate

Are you saying I’m anti boxing fans again lololol

maybe , we do deserve it sometimes tbf

Just seen that it’s been confirmed Warrington had his jaw broken early on in the fight. Fighters really are a different breed.

Hopefully he doesn’t come out and blame it on Kiko using his head.

Gone full circle on Josh.

Was so impressed with him against Selby and particularly Frampton but he's a horrible, dirty bastard to watch now in the ring with a real chip on his shoulder and way past his best.

Tough man of course.

maverick23 wrote: ↑27 Mar 2022, 03:52 Just seen that it’s been confirmed Warrington had his jaw broken early on in the fight. Fighters really are a different breed.

Hopefully he doesn’t come out and blame it on Kiko using his head.

Pretty sure he got it broke 30 seconds befor the end of the fight. That one bomb right by kiko that warrington held on after....

gregregegg wrote: ↑27 Mar 2022, 04:42

maverick23 wrote: ↑27 Mar 2022, 03:52 Just seen that it’s been confirmed Warrington had his jaw broken early on in the fight. Fighters really are a different breed.

Hopefully he doesn’t come out and blame it on Kiko using his head.

Pretty sure he got it broke 30 seconds befor the end of the fight. That one bomb right by kiko that warrington held on after....

Ah ok - that makes sense.

kiko was done/spent........but he broke josh's jaw 30 seconds before the finish lol

that right hand shook josh too, had him holding. really think it would've been interesting to see it continue, dont agree kiko was finished. alas, ref called it......let's see josh vs wood, winner fights lara

Steveh583 wrote: ↑27 Mar 2022, 02:30

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑27 Mar 2022, 02:23

Steveh583 wrote: ↑27 Mar 2022, 02:21 Josh can’t do right for doing wrong with some fans because of petty football affiliations. I think after the Lara defeat to come back to this is a heck of an achievement and I congratulate him

i've been a fan of his for years and still dont like how he handled himself at, plus he cut his opponent almost straight away last fight with a foul too. i dont follow football and i think being dirty is almost universally an unliked feature , not something ppl only get after warrington for

it's not always fans being totally over the top moaners mate

Are you saying I’m anti boxing fans again lololol

it has been known, Steve

That fight was almost the best world featherweight title clash with a British boxer. There is no doubt if Warrington had stopped Kiko in the 3rd that fight would have surpassed any featherweight title fight had by a British boxer. I'm guessing the broken jaw scuppered that but it was a fantastic display for our boxer.

In my opinion you can't knock that display

ya, despite the frustrating fouling the action was mostly good. both guys a lot of heart and throwing hard. kiko bleeding, josh with a broken jaw. they'll be feeling it a lot more now probably!

Think Martinez probably could've continued but he was hurt against the ropes and not throwing back while Warrington was teeing off on him, good performance from Warrington, a bit suspect with the head, shoulders and forearms but made it work, you felt for Martinez came off worst after headclash in the 1st and the eye never stopped bleeding heavily rest of fight then Warrington knocked him down with a heavy right hand before round was out


Warrington bullied Martinez after that, fairly dirty but never allowed Martinez to gain confidence and get back in fight, Martinez's heart never in question, kept trudging forward and landed a couple here and there but once Warrington opened him up in the 7th and must've landed 15 unanswered punches before ref jumped in, not all landed clean but the last few did and Martinez was hurt

how long do broken jaws take to heal? will this put josh out for a while, or not any longer than usual

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑27 Mar 2022, 05:19 how long do broken jaws take to heal? will this put josh out for a while, or not any longer than usual

Around 6 weeks

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑27 Mar 2022, 05:19 how long do broken jaws take to heal? will this put josh out for a while, or not any longer than usual

I’d imagine it will take just long enough to heal that he’ll tragically be unable to fight Lara next. He’ll just heal in time for someone lower risk

MasterG wrote: ↑27 Mar 2022, 05:09 That fight was almost the best world featherweight title clash with a British boxer.

Woah there nelly

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑27 Mar 2022, 04:45 kiko was done/spent........but he broke josh's jaw 30 seconds before the finish lol

that right hand shook josh too, had him holding. really think it would've been interesting to see it continue, dont agree kiko was finished. alas, ref called it......let's see josh vs wood, winner fights lara

Seen the scan.

MasterG wrote: ↑27 Mar 2022, 05:09 That fight was almost the best world featherweight title clash with a British boxer. There is no doubt if Warrington had stopped Kiko in the 3rd that fight would have surpassed any featherweight title fight had by a British boxer. I'm guessing the broken jaw scuppered that but it was a fantastic display for our boxer.

In my opinion you can't knock that display

I think Hamed, Hodkinson, Wood plus others, several others, might disagree with you there.

Frampton/Santa Cruz pisses on that straight away. Jesus.

Quiggs win over Kiko 7 years ago has aged well.