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Re: Josh Taylor vs. Jack Catterall II | DAZN - 27 April 2024

Posted: 22 Feb 2024, 17:08
by TheLeprechaun
Taylor is all over the place for me. Desperately trying to come across like hes just a happy go lucky guy and not affected by Catterall. Jack has got under his skin. Taylor just looks all at sea in the pressers. I don't like what I see with him. He would be better served being himself rather than trying to put on this cool routine. Just my opinion of course. Regarding the fight I think it will be more of the same. Catterall will just get hustled out of it by doing nothing in the 2nd half of the fight. Perhaps he gets the decision but this lad is one of the stinkiest fighters to come out of Britain and for that reason I am rooting for Taylor. You sit down to a Jack Catterall fight and you better not be tired because you'll be having a kip sooner rather than later. He is AWFUL to watch.

Re: Josh Taylor vs. Jack Catterall II | DAZN - 27 April 202

Posted: 22 Feb 2024, 17:23
by Spud
I am useless at predicting fights.

I think Josh Taylor is in massive decline. The Regis Prograis fight took an awful lot out of him. He then has had tough fights since then.

Is Jack Catterall good enough to take advantage of that decline.

This fight reminds me of Froch/Groves when George didn’t get what he deserved in the first fight.

Has Catterall got enough to beat Taylor .., I think so … but only just.

Re: Josh Taylor vs. Jack Catterall II | TBA - 27 April 2024

Posted: 22 Feb 2024, 17:24
by bigped
SeanBrennan wrote: 15 Feb 2024, 15:57 what purses do you think for this?
Josh won’t be fighting for pennies his last 3/4 fights have all been in the millions
He will be on a good
Purse

Re: Josh Taylor vs. Jack Catterall II | TBA - 27 April 2024

Posted: 22 Feb 2024, 17:37
by Spud
bigped wrote: 22 Feb 2024, 17:24
SeanBrennan wrote: 15 Feb 2024, 15:57 what purses do you think for this?
Josh won’t be fighting for pennies his last 3/4 fights have all been in the millions
He will be on a good
Purse
£300k max

Anything more than that it would need to be ppv

Re: Josh Taylor vs. Jack Catterall II | TBA - 27 April 2024

Posted: 22 Feb 2024, 17:38
by SeanBrennan
bigped wrote: 22 Feb 2024, 17:24
SeanBrennan wrote: 15 Feb 2024, 15:57 what purses do you think for this?
Josh won’t be fighting for pennies his last 3/4 fights have all been in the millions
He will be on a good
Purse
cheers

Re: Josh Taylor vs. Jack Catterall II | TBA - 27 April 2024

Posted: 22 Feb 2024, 17:39
by SeanBrennan
Spud wrote: 22 Feb 2024, 17:37
bigped wrote: 22 Feb 2024, 17:24
SeanBrennan wrote: 15 Feb 2024, 15:57 what purses do you think for this?
Josh won’t be fighting for pennies his last 3/4 fights have all been in the millions
He will be on a good
Purse
£300k max

Anything more than that it would need to be ppv
I'm sure there are Dazn fighters receiving more than that for non-PPV fights.

Re: Josh Taylor vs. Jack Catterall II | DAZN - 27 April 2024

Posted: 23 Feb 2024, 11:15
by Ruthless-RKO

Re: Josh Taylor vs. Jack Catterall II | DAZN - 27 April 2024

Posted: 23 Feb 2024, 11:33
by SeanBrennan
good news. Sam Jones did say a while ago it would sell a bigger venue.

Re: Josh Taylor vs. Jack Catterall II | TBA - 27 April 2024

Posted: 24 Feb 2024, 13:44
by Spud
SeanBrennan wrote: 22 Feb 2024, 17:39
Spud wrote: 22 Feb 2024, 17:37
bigped wrote: 22 Feb 2024, 17:24

Josh won’t be fighting for pennies his last 3/4 fights have all been in the millions
He will be on a good
Purse
£300k max

Anything more than that it would need to be ppv
I'm sure there are Dazn fighters receiving more than that for non-PPV fights.
Matchroom have always had the reputation of keeping within the budget for a show.

Hearn openly declares the one show he
Lost a lot of money on was Lomanchenko/Campbell.

I am willing to bet Catterall will be on about £275k and Taylor will be on £300k

Don t forget the fight is in a 12,000 capacity arena not a football stadium and also there is no ppv revenue.

In addition there are no belts on the line

Re: Josh Taylor vs. Jack Catterall II | TBA - 27 April 2024

Posted: 24 Feb 2024, 17:48
by SeanBrennan
Spud wrote: 24 Feb 2024, 13:44
SeanBrennan wrote: 22 Feb 2024, 17:39
Spud wrote: 22 Feb 2024, 17:37

£300k max

Anything more than that it would need to be ppv
I'm sure there are Dazn fighters receiving more than that for non-PPV fights.
Matchroom have always had the reputation of keeping within the budget for a show.

Hearn openly declares the one show he
Lost a lot of money on was Lomanchenko/Campbell.

I am willing to bet Catterall will be on about £275k and Taylor will be on £300k

Don t forget the fight is in a 12,000 capacity arena not a football stadium and also there is no ppv revenue.

In addition there are no belts on the line
that makes sense, my knowledge is zero when it comes to this.

Re: Josh Taylor vs. Jack Catterall II | DAZN - 27 April 2024

Posted: 14 Mar 2024, 12:38
by Ruthless-RKO

Re: Josh Taylor vs. Jack Catterall II | DAZN - 27 April 2024 (postponed)

Posted: 14 Mar 2024, 12:44
by margaret thatcher
this fight is so much less interesting than it couldve been earlier

Re: Josh Taylor vs. Jack Catterall II | DAZN - 27 April 2024 (postponed)

Posted: 14 Mar 2024, 13:20
by samwbr
What's his injury?

Re: Josh Taylor vs. Jack Catterall II | DAZN - 27 April 2024 (postponed)

Posted: 14 Mar 2024, 13:21
by deadpan
margaret thatcher wrote: 14 Mar 2024, 12:44 this fight is so much less interesting than it couldve been earlier
Indeed. Taylor's options have dwindled rather since he could afford to ignore a potentially difficult rematch. Back when it could have been hyped into a stadium filling PPV.

Re: Josh Taylor vs. Jack Catterall II | DAZN - 27 April 2024 (postponed)

Posted: 14 Mar 2024, 13:22
by deadpan
samwbr wrote: 14 Mar 2024, 13:20 What's his injury?
Dropped a bottle of Buckfast on his foot.

Re: Josh Taylor vs. Jack Catterall II | DAZN - 27 April 2024 (postponed)

Posted: 14 Mar 2024, 13:25
by samwbr
deadpan wrote: 14 Mar 2024, 13:22
samwbr wrote: 14 Mar 2024, 13:20 What's his injury?
Dropped a bottle of Buckfast on his foot.
He looked a bit worse for wear at the first press conference. Can see this not happening now. Catterall must be tempted to move on from it, he's wasting too much time.

Re: Josh Taylor vs. Jack Catterall II | DAZN - 27 April 2024 (postponed)

Posted: 14 Mar 2024, 14:26
by jameswilson

Re: Josh Taylor vs. Jack Catterall II | DAZN - 27 April 2024 (postponed)

Posted: 14 Mar 2024, 16:29
by Ruthless-RKO

Re: Josh Taylor vs. Jack Catterall II | DAZN - 27 April 2024 (postponed)

Posted: 14 Mar 2024, 17:42
by SeanBrennan
this is moving beyond farce, it's Catterall I feel sorry for. He's trained hard for this.

Re: Josh Taylor vs. Jack Catterall II | DAZN - 27 April 2024 (postponed)

Posted: 14 Mar 2024, 18:21
by Manchester Hitman
I can’t be bothered with this fight tbh. I don’t have any confidence that Taylor will make it in May either.

Re: Josh Taylor vs. Jack Catterall II | DAZN - 27 April 2024 (postponed)

Posted: 14 Mar 2024, 19:26
by coneye
Looks shopworn injuries.pullouts . Blady bla bla , got a feeling Taylir is finished

Re: Josh Taylor vs. Jack Catterall II | TBA - 27 April 2024

Posted: 14 Mar 2024, 19:36
by CaptainSpacerod
Spud wrote: 24 Feb 2024, 13:44
SeanBrennan wrote: 22 Feb 2024, 17:39
Spud wrote: 22 Feb 2024, 17:37

£300k max

Anything more than that it would need to be ppv
I'm sure there are Dazn fighters receiving more than that for non-PPV fights.
Matchroom have always had the reputation of keeping within the budget for a show.

Hearn openly declares the one show he
Lost a lot of money on was Lomanchenko/Campbell.

I am willing to bet Catterall will be on about £275k and Taylor will be on £300k

Don t forget the fight is in a 12,000 capacity arena not a football stadium and also there is no ppv revenue.

In addition there are no belts on the line
i can't see Josh having agreed to receive virtually the same purse as Jack. That would be so out of character, i could only see him accepting that if he'd hit hard times which he hasn't.

Josh is the A side, only 2 fights ago he was undisputed champ. He's much more recognisable to the casual fan too.

I like Jack but looking at it objectively he's very much the B side here. He's never beaten anybody top class, he's never held a belt, he has an unexciting style (to the casuals) and he doesn't have many fans. He'll be lucky if he's on half Josh's purse.

Re: Josh Taylor vs. Jack Catterall II | TBA - 27 April 2024

Posted: 15 Mar 2024, 05:39
by maverick23
Spud wrote: 24 Feb 2024, 13:44
SeanBrennan wrote: 22 Feb 2024, 17:39
Spud wrote: 22 Feb 2024, 17:37

£300k max

Anything more than that it would need to be ppv
I'm sure there are Dazn fighters receiving more than that for non-PPV fights.
Matchroom have always had the reputation of keeping within the budget for a show.

Hearn openly declares the one show he
Lost a lot of money on was Lomanchenko/Campbell.

I am willing to bet Catterall will be on about £275k and Taylor will be on £300k

Don t forget the fight is in a 12,000 capacity arena not a football stadium and also there is no ppv revenue.

In addition there are no belts on the line
I think you’re well out with this Spud. Combined purses will be over £1m. Perhaps close to £2m.

They’ve got the income from DAZN for the show (who need content so people can justify their subscriptions), they’ve got ESPN income who are showing the fight in the US and 12,000 fans at c.£100 is £1m just for the gate (before expenses etc).

AJ was on regular DAZN twice last year. If they can make the financials work for him then they can for Catterall/Taylor.

Re: Josh Taylor vs. Jack Catterall II | DAZN - 27 April 2024 (postponed)

Posted: 15 Mar 2024, 06:22
by DavidPayne
Can't remember being less interested in a rematch.
Taylor is chasing a prime past and not capitalised on. Stayed at 140, should've gone up.

They spoke of him as a natural opponent for Crawford after Prograis, which post fight he said may be his last at the weight - that was 27 years ago.

Re: Josh Taylor vs. Jack Catterall II | DAZN - 27 April 2024 (postponed)

Posted: 15 Mar 2024, 06:23
by The_Don1
samwbr wrote: 14 Mar 2024, 13:25
deadpan wrote: 14 Mar 2024, 13:22
samwbr wrote: 14 Mar 2024, 13:20 What's his injury?
Dropped a bottle of Buckfast on his foot.
He looked a bit worse for wear at the first press conference. Can see this not happening now. Catterall must be tempted to move on from it, he's wasting too much time.
Catterall knows he's not gonna make near as much money from any other fight than the Taylor one, so he has to keep hanging on for it. He's been nominated for world title eliminators, but passed them over to keep chasing the rematch. Basically, Taylor has him on strings.

The only other realistic world level fights for him which could be made within the Matchroom stable for him are Devin Haney and Subriel Matias, and to be fair I don't think he'd fancy either.

If Jack wanted to move on with his career, he'd have done it already.