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Re: Joshua on the mic

Posted: 27 Aug 2022, 00:44
by oogiebe
mikebourkefan wrote: 27 Aug 2022, 00:22
oogiebe wrote: 27 Aug 2022, 00:03
mikebourkefan wrote: 27 Aug 2022, 00:00 Anthony Joshua on the mic after that loss was almost Tyson Fury or Nick Gage levels of charismatic. sad it was the traumatic type of charisma
Oh, you mean 'drama.'
yes some people really cannot handle losing well, still it will be interesting where Anthony goes from here i would still be ok seeing him Face Wilder at some point after a few tune up wins. right now a decent comeback could be Joshua vs Tom Schwarz who has won 3 since Fury stopped him
I wouldn't mind seeing AJ go back to a 'dirty' gym with some real boxing folks and get back on track. Can't see him getting his head together though. HW division is more interesting with AJ toughening up.

Re: Joshua on the mic

Posted: 27 Aug 2022, 03:39
by tonyevs
mikebourkefan wrote: 27 Aug 2022, 00:22
oogiebe wrote: 27 Aug 2022, 00:03
mikebourkefan wrote: 27 Aug 2022, 00:00 Anthony Joshua on the mic after that loss was almost Tyson Fury or Nick Gage levels of charismatic. sad it was the traumatic type of charisma
Oh, you mean 'drama.'
yes some people really cannot handle losing well, still it will be interesting where Anthony goes from here i would still be ok seeing him Face Wilder at some point after a few tune up wins. right now a decent comeback could be Joshua vs Tom Schwarz who has won 3 since Fury stopped him
Hearn is talking about 4 fights in a year which I think he is genuinely planning .. it's what he (Hearn) needs, and what Joshua needs too.
If Joshua can see and more importantly agree to that is another thing .. Joshua is fabulously rich with the self entitlement you'd expect from someone so young and surrounded by yes-men.

If Joshua is motivated to fight on, and listens and learns, then he can become undisputed champion without doubt. Usyk is 1-2 fights from retirement; Fury is those 1-2 fights then he is gone too .. who else is out there?
Joe Joyce and that's about it .. and Slo-Joe is also Old-Joe too.
Jared & Dubois out of the youngsters, but both look proper limited. Then you got Sanchez - Jalolov - Hrgovic - Arslanbeck who all similar age as AJ but a level or two below as yet.

It wide open for AJ to win back all the baubles - if his ego can be kept in check is another thing ..

Re: Joshua on the mic

Posted: 27 Aug 2022, 03:48
by big lennox
mikebourkefan wrote: 27 Aug 2022, 00:22
oogiebe wrote: 27 Aug 2022, 00:03
mikebourkefan wrote: 27 Aug 2022, 00:00 Anthony Joshua on the mic after that loss was almost Tyson Fury or Nick Gage levels of charismatic. sad it was the traumatic type of charisma
Oh, you mean 'drama.'
yes some people really cannot handle losing well, still it will be interesting where Anthony goes from here i would still be ok seeing him Face Wilder at some point after a few tune up wins. right now a decent comeback could be Joshua vs Tom Schwarz who has won 3 since Fury stopped him
Tom Schwarz faces 10 years prison time if found guilty of breaking his ex fiancé's jaw in three places..

Re: Joshua on the mic

Posted: 27 Aug 2022, 06:58
by joshj909
big lennox wrote: 27 Aug 2022, 03:48
mikebourkefan wrote: 27 Aug 2022, 00:22
oogiebe wrote: 27 Aug 2022, 00:03

Oh, you mean 'drama.'
yes some people really cannot handle losing well, still it will be interesting where Anthony goes from here i would still be ok seeing him Face Wilder at some point after a few tune up wins. right now a decent comeback could be Joshua vs Tom Schwarz who has won 3 since Fury stopped him
Tom Schwarz faces 10 years prison time if found guilty of breaking his ex fiancé's jaw in three places..
Not guilty, no way he punches that hard (a joke of course).

*Also, terrible comeback fight for AJ. Would be his worst opponent since 2015. He can definitely face someone much better and still have an easy work out. Hunter/Hughie winner, Chisora, Kabayel, Wallin, Hrgovic, Zhang, Yoka, Demirezen, Ortiz are all likely still pretty easy fights for him.

Re: Joshua on the mic

Posted: 27 Aug 2022, 07:01
by Nightmare Roy
joshj909 wrote: 27 Aug 2022, 06:58
big lennox wrote: 27 Aug 2022, 03:48
mikebourkefan wrote: 27 Aug 2022, 00:22 yes some people really cannot handle losing well, still it will be interesting where Anthony goes from here i would still be ok seeing him Face Wilder at some point after a few tune up wins. right now a decent comeback could be Joshua vs Tom Schwarz who has won 3 since Fury stopped him
Tom Schwarz faces 10 years prison time if found guilty of breaking his ex fiancé's jaw in three places..
Not guilty, no way he punches that hard (a joke of course).

*Also, terrible comeback fight for AJ. Would be his worst opponent since 2015. He can definitely face someone much better and still have an easy work out. Hunter/Hughie winner, Chisora, Kabayel, Wallin, Hrgovic, Zhang, Yoka, Demirezen, Ortiz are all likely still pretty easy fights for him.
I watched the Hegovic Zhang fight, think both would be easy work for AJ, either would be a good comeback fight, I'm guessing it will be Whyte though, need to make that money back for Dazn and they will hype the hell out of it.

Re: Joshua on the mic

Posted: 27 Aug 2022, 10:11
by jamesmcdonnell
tonyevs wrote: 27 Aug 2022, 03:39
mikebourkefan wrote: 27 Aug 2022, 00:22
oogiebe wrote: 27 Aug 2022, 00:03

Oh, you mean 'drama.'
yes some people really cannot handle losing well, still it will be interesting where Anthony goes from here i would still be ok seeing him Face Wilder at some point after a few tune up wins. right now a decent comeback could be Joshua vs Tom Schwarz who has won 3 since Fury stopped him
Hearn is talking about 4 fights in a year which I think he is genuinely planning .. it's what he (Hearn) needs, and what Joshua needs too.
If Joshua can see and more importantly agree to that is another thing .. Joshua is fabulously rich with the self entitlement you'd expect from someone so young and surrounded by yes-men.

If Joshua is motivated to fight on, and listens and learns, then he can become undisputed champion without doubt. Usyk is 1-2 fights from retirement; Fury is those 1-2 fights then he is gone too .. who else is out there?
Joe Joyce and that's about it .. and Slo-Joe is also Old-Joe too.
Jared & Dubois out of the youngsters, but both look proper limited. Then you got Sanchez - Jalolov - Hrgovic - Arslanbeck who all similar age as AJ but a level or two below as yet.

It wide open for AJ to win back all the baubles - if his ego can be kept in check is another thing ..

Horseshit, big talk but no way Joshua fights 4 times in a year.

Re: Joshua on the mic

Posted: 27 Aug 2022, 10:51
by Boxerbeetle
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 27 Aug 2022, 10:11
tonyevs wrote: 27 Aug 2022, 03:39
mikebourkefan wrote: 27 Aug 2022, 00:22 yes some people really cannot handle losing well, still it will be interesting where Anthony goes from here i would still be ok seeing him Face Wilder at some point after a few tune up wins. right now a decent comeback could be Joshua vs Tom Schwarz who has won 3 since Fury stopped him
Hearn is talking about 4 fights in a year which I think he is genuinely planning .. it's what he (Hearn) needs, and what Joshua needs too.
If Joshua can see and more importantly agree to that is another thing .. Joshua is fabulously rich with the self entitlement you'd expect from someone so young and surrounded by yes-men.

If Joshua is motivated to fight on, and listens and learns, then he can become undisputed champion without doubt. Usyk is 1-2 fights from retirement; Fury is those 1-2 fights then he is gone too .. who else is out there?
Joe Joyce and that's about it .. and Slo-Joe is also Old-Joe too.
Jared & Dubois out of the youngsters, but both look proper limited. Then you got Sanchez - Jalolov - Hrgovic - Arslanbeck who all similar age as AJ but a level or two below as yet.

It wide open for AJ to win back all the baubles - if his ego can be kept in check is another thing ..

Horseshit, big talk but no way Joshua fights 4 times in a year.
DAZN need that sweet sweet PPV money, I bet they’ll be desperate to get AJ out as often as possible.

Re: Joshua on the mic

Posted: 27 Aug 2022, 11:18
by oogiebe
Boxerbeetle wrote: 27 Aug 2022, 10:51
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 27 Aug 2022, 10:11
tonyevs wrote: 27 Aug 2022, 03:39

Hearn is talking about 4 fights in a year which I think he is genuinely planning .. it's what he (Hearn) needs, and what Joshua needs too.
If Joshua can see and more importantly agree to that is another thing .. Joshua is fabulously rich with the self entitlement you'd expect from someone so young and surrounded by yes-men.

If Joshua is motivated to fight on, and listens and learns, then he can become undisputed champion without doubt. Usyk is 1-2 fights from retirement; Fury is those 1-2 fights then he is gone too .. who else is out there?
Joe Joyce and that's about it .. and Slo-Joe is also Old-Joe too.
Jared & Dubois out of the youngsters, but both look proper limited. Then you got Sanchez - Jalolov - Hrgovic - Arslanbeck who all similar age as AJ but a level or two below as yet.

It wide open for AJ to win back all the baubles - if his ego can be kept in check is another thing ..

Horseshit, big talk but no way Joshua fights 4 times in a year.
DAZN need that sweet sweet PPV money, I bet they’ll be desperate to get AJ out as often as possible.
Is he really still a big PPV draw?

Re: Joshua on the mic

Posted: 27 Aug 2022, 12:48
by Lenny Cravats
I don't think so. The casuals are pretty fickle. He's widely known now as 2nd best to Fury.
The people that buy the majority of PPVs aren't boxing fans, they're fans of fighters - it's like paying to watch football... You'll only pay for your team.
Not many are likely to pay after him losing 3/5 of his last fights.
Joshua had (for the casuals) that aura of invincibility. He's been high profile his entire career.
He's been relegated to the lower leagues.

Re: Joshua on the mic

Posted: 27 Aug 2022, 12:52
by oogiebe
Lenny Cravats wrote: 27 Aug 2022, 12:48 I don't think so. The casuals are pretty fickle. He's widely known now as 2nd best to Fury.
The people that buy the majority of PPVs aren't boxing fans, they're fans of fighters - it's like paying to watch football... You'll only pay for your team.
Not many are likely to pay after him losing 3/5 of his last fights.
Joshua had (for the casuals) that aura of invincibility. He's been high profile his entire career.
He's been relegated to the lower leagues.
Great points.

Re: Joshua on the mic

Posted: 27 Aug 2022, 13:43
by JamesPhilips
Lenny Cravats wrote: 27 Aug 2022, 12:48 I don't think so. The casuals are pretty fickle. He's widely known now as 2nd best to Fury.
The people that buy the majority of PPVs aren't boxing fans, they're fans of fighters - it's like paying to watch football... You'll only pay for your team.
Not many are likely to pay after him losing 3/5 of his last fights.
Joshua had (for the casuals) that aura of invincibility. He's been high profile his entire career.
He's been relegated to the lower leagues.
Yes these are great points. Joshua’s been exposed once by an obese man and twice by a guy way smaller man. The casual fan can still be enticed with the right match but Joshua has lost the reflected glory he used to project.



Re: Joshua on the mic

Posted: 27 Aug 2022, 16:38
by Coco
Lenny Cravats wrote: 27 Aug 2022, 12:48 I don't think so. The casuals are pretty fickle. He's widely known now as 2nd best to Fury.
The people that buy the majority of PPVs aren't boxing fans, they're fans of fighters - it's like paying to watch football... You'll only pay for your team.
Not many are likely to pay after him losing 3/5 of his last fights.
Joshua had (for the casuals) that aura of invincibility. He's been high profile his entire career.
He's been relegated to the lower leagues.
This is where Fast Car needs to show his worth

Re: Joshua on the mic

Posted: 27 Aug 2022, 18:11
by KiwiRider
Coco wrote: 27 Aug 2022, 16:38
Lenny Cravats wrote: 27 Aug 2022, 12:48 I don't think so. The casuals are pretty fickle. He's widely known now as 2nd best to Fury.
The people that buy the majority of PPVs aren't boxing fans, they're fans of fighters - it's like paying to watch football... You'll only pay for your team.
Not many are likely to pay after him losing 3/5 of his last fights.
Joshua had (for the casuals) that aura of invincibility. He's been high profile his entire career.
He's been relegated to the lower leagues.
This is where Fast Car needs to show his worth
As in?
Selling the Ranting Robot to us all over again?

Re: Joshua on the mic

Posted: 27 Aug 2022, 18:47
by Coco
KiwiRider wrote: 27 Aug 2022, 18:11
Coco wrote: 27 Aug 2022, 16:38
Lenny Cravats wrote: 27 Aug 2022, 12:48 I don't think so. The casuals are pretty fickle. He's widely known now as 2nd best to Fury.
The people that buy the majority of PPVs aren't boxing fans, they're fans of fighters - it's like paying to watch football... You'll only pay for your team.
Not many are likely to pay after him losing 3/5 of his last fights.
Joshua had (for the casuals) that aura of invincibility. He's been high profile his entire career.
He's been relegated to the lower leagues.
This is where Fast Car needs to show his worth
As in?
Selling the Ranting Robot to us all over again?
As in promoting a product everyone wants to see.

Easy enough when your are winning

It's time to sell sand to the Arabs

Part of doing this right is making AJ believe.

Re: Joshua on the mic

Posted: 27 Aug 2022, 20:23
by KiwiRider
Coco wrote: 27 Aug 2022, 18:47
KiwiRider wrote: 27 Aug 2022, 18:11
Coco wrote: 27 Aug 2022, 16:38

This is where Fast Car needs to show his worth
As in?
Selling the Ranting Robot to us all over again?
As in promoting a product everyone wants to see.

Easy enough when your are winning

It's time to sell sand to the Arabs

Part of doing this right is making AJ believe.
Ok, thanks for the explanation. :salut:
Personally I don't think AJ has 'believed' since Fat Andy knocked him out. Out boxing (even fatter) Fat Andy didn't do much to restore his belief either unfortunately.

Re: Joshua on the mic

Posted: 28 Aug 2022, 06:58
by dookus
AJ's due a few knockover jobs