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HomicideHenry wrote:Iono what to think of it, considering Ali never changed his game plan one iota when he fought Frazier the first time, believing he had enough to defeat Joe.

i thought how amazing, that someone completely
ignores frazier's left hook. ali did not care at all
to have his right anywhere near his chin.

HomicideHenry wrote:Speaking of modern BKB men, I am good friends with Bobby "The Celtic Warrior" Gunn, who holds the distinction of being the first man to hold a BKB championship since Sullivan (under a sanctioning body). Unfortunately for Bobby, alot of the so called hard men from Ireland, England, Canada, etc i.e. James Quinn McDonagh have refused to meet him in the ring under any circumstances. I am convinced, even though Bobby isnt a top pro glover, that he could reign for a long time as a BKB champion because there simply isnt no real formidable competition willing to fight him.

You talk out your arse and need to be careful in what your saying ,i know James and everyone that knows Bobby and james knows James was all for fighting Gunn under proper no ring ,no rounds, no time limit,no gloved bare fist traditional rules ,but bobby wanted no part of that and wanted a ring ,2 minute rounds and under 10 rounds ,which if you know anything about the sport ent bare traditional fist rules.
BTW that belt that your hero Gunn says was the same title as Sullivan held was just made up by gun and is a farce, you cant just have a belt made up fight bums and claim your a world champion like Gunn is doing ...its a joke title .
Everybody in the trade knows that even tho hes getting on in years James Quinn McDonagh is the best bare fist fighter under real bare fist traditional rules !..hes had over 30 fights against people that are bred to fight and he ent lost one,unlike Gunn that even with gloves on was KOed by a welterweight bum lol

Bartley Gorman was a very nice man, apparently Very, very tough and strong with decent skills. Not a bully type at all.

People say he challenged McClean and Shaw etc numerous times. They never took up his challenges.

bengulnaci1 wrote:Bartley Gorman was a very nice man, apparently Very, very tough and strong with decent skills. Not a bully type at all.

People say he challenged McClean and Shaw etc numerous times. They never took up his challenges.

Bartely was a great man,my family is friends with his family ,his nephew Jerry is a good Bare fist fighter to ;)

Robinson wrote:The thing about 'cowardice' is...that you can not control instincts
some times. You can be the toughest cat around, but when you
get rocked or dazed your body reacts not your mind.

Good conditioning, experience and alot of hard sparring help to
'steel' you against this reaction, but contray to what the cigar
smoking bar breaths who merely watch the sport think, when a
man turns side on to avoid blows, its not a matter of manliness.
Its the body kicking in when the mind is dazed, exhausted or
rocked.

I shall like to check this Sykes and Gardner bout.

great post.

mrpedigree wrote:

HomicideHenry wrote:Speaking of modern BKB men, I am good friends with Bobby "The Celtic Warrior" Gunn, who holds the distinction of being the first man to hold a BKB championship since Sullivan (under a sanctioning body). Unfortunately for Bobby, alot of the so called hard men from Ireland, England, Canada, etc i.e. James Quinn McDonagh have refused to meet him in the ring under any circumstances. I am convinced, even though Bobby isnt a top pro glover, that he could reign for a long time as a BKB champion because there simply isnt no real formidable competition willing to fight him.

You talk out your arse and need to be careful in what your saying ,i know James and everyone that knows Bobby and james knows James was all for fighting Gunn under proper no ring ,no rounds, no time limit,no gloved bare fist traditional rules ,but bobby wanted no part of that and wanted a ring ,2 minute rounds and under 10 rounds ,which if you know anything about the sport ent bare traditional fist rules.
BTW that belt that your hero Gunn says was the same title as Sullivan held was just made up by gun and is a farce, you cant just have a belt made up fight bums and claim your a world champion like Gunn is doing ...its a joke title .
Everybody in the trade knows that even tho hes getting on in years James Quinn McDonagh is the best bare fist fighter under real bare fist traditional rules !..hes had over 30 fights against people that are bred to fight and he ent lost one,unlike Gunn that even with gloves on was KOed by a welterweight bum lol

Lmao not to start arguments because I have had my run ins with the McDonagh's and his legions of fans, but I think its fair to say that no bkb man who was an amateur back in 1984 (McDonagh) could beat a guy whose been ranked once/twice in the world as a cruiserweight, regardless of rules.

Gunn has been KOed by a bum of a welterweight and has been stopped and knocked out all his career ,James ent .

you really dont get the difference between rounds and no time limits ? and you dont see the difference in having no ring ether ?
If you dont then you really shouldn't open your mouth anymore about something you dont know fcuk all about .

You've had run ins with the McDonagh's have ya ? Whats your name then and where you from then ?

(bare knuckle spirit entering the thread.)

Is that McDonagh bloke in the documentary knuckle?

Him and his brother were followed over the years by a camera etc.

The standard of opposition was woeful at times. His brother seemed to fight an assortment of fat slobs!

I used to love watching the old fighting Irish camcorder fights with the Quinns, Joyces, McGinleys, Wards, Rooney etc.

Has anyone got any footage or links of Hughie Docherty fighting. Heard he is the man these days but can't find anything of him apart from the brief fight he had on a tennis court in the Documentary Gypsy Blood.

yiddo14 wrote:Is that McDonagh bloke in the documentary knuckle?

Him and his brother were followed over the years by a camera etc.

The standard of opposition was woeful at times. His brother seemed to fight an assortment of fat slobs!

That is the same man.

mrpedigree wrote:Gunn has been KOed by a bum of a welterweight and has been stopped and knocked out all his career ,James ent .

you really dont get the difference between rounds and no time limits ? and you dont see the difference in having no ring ether ?
If you dont then you really shouldn't open your mouth anymore about something you dont know fcuk all about .

You've had run ins with the McDonagh's have ya ? Whats your name then and where you from then ?

I'm sorry but even Quinn admits he has only had a handful of fights in bkb and in the amateurs, while Gunn had quite an extensive amateur/toughman career before turning pro and ended up being ranked for a shot at the world cruiserweight title. There is such a wide range of difference in experience between the two men. Its like Dana White of the UFC said of Kimbo Slice once "He may be the toughest man at the barbecue, but he would get destroyed in the UFC." That being said James is a nice man, but his people cant take criticism well at all. Anyone with any sense knows that regardless of how many street fights you have had it doesnt translate to boxing. The last time McDonagh was in a proper ring or scrap was in the 80's when he won a regional title in the amateurs. These bkb fights in Ireland and England for the most part are between bully boys, door men, etc. There isnt an athlete among them. Quinn may train a few months before these bouts, but I am convinced he only has such success at bkb cus he maintains some measure of conditioning. It is not his skill that makes him great, because it is evident that he has quite a few faults (doesnt do well when backed up, etc.); as far as I am concerned the last champion of bkb in Ireland/England/Wales/Scotland was Rooney at Crossmaglen, in the Currah of Kildare against McGinley. Nobody since then has fought straight out for the claim as 'King of The Travellers' let alone as champion bkb of Europe. I can name a bunch of men more qualified in Europe who do bkb that is more deserving of the recognition than Quinn, such as current unlicensed gloved champion Mark Potter who dabbles in bkb and mma.

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^^^One of Bartley Gorman's BKB opponents Don Halden, whose career was cut short due to a detached retina I believe. Halden later became a figurehead in the early unlicensed gloved circuit. Gorman claimed that Halden hit him the hardest of any opponent he ever faced, for Halden hit Gorman with a cheap shot and cracked Gorman's cheek bone. Gorman kayoed Halden.

HomicideHenry wrote:http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

^^^One of Bartley Gorman's BKB opponents Don Halden, whose career was cut short due to a detached retina I believe. Halden later became a figurehead in the early unlicensed gloved circuit. Gorman claimed that Halden hit him the hardest of any opponent he ever faced, for Halden hit Gorman with a cheap shot and cracked Gorman's cheek bone. Gorman kayoed Halden.

I think Bartley described him as a British title challenger...been years since I read it. Again, why no fights against the other men claiming a bkb title at the time.

I your opinion, who was the best man Bartley fought?

HomicideHenry wrote:

mrpedigree wrote:Gunn has been KOed by a bum of a welterweight and has been stopped and knocked out all his career ,James ent .

you really dont get the difference between rounds and no time limits ? and you dont see the difference in having no ring ether ?
If you dont then you really shouldn't open your mouth anymore about something you dont know fcuk all about .

You've had run ins with the McDonagh's have ya ? Whats your name then and where you from then ?

I'm sorry but even Quinn admits he has only had a handful of fights in bkb and in the amateurs, while Gunn had quite an extensive amateur/toughman career before turning pro and ended up being ranked for a shot at the world cruiserweight title. There is such a wide range of difference in experience between the two men. Its like Dana White of the UFC said of Kimbo Slice once "He may be the toughest man at the barbecue, but he would get destroyed in the UFC." That being said James is a nice man, but his people cant take criticism well at all. Anyone with any sense knows that regardless of how many street fights you have had it doesnt translate to boxing. The last time McDonagh was in a proper ring or scrap was in the 80's when he won a regional title in the amateurs. These bkb fights in Ireland and England for the most part are between bully boys, door men, etc. There isnt an athlete among them. Quinn may train a few months before these bouts, but I am convinced he only has such success at bkb cus he maintains some measure of conditioning. It is not his skill that makes him great, because it is evident that he has quite a few faults (doesnt do well when backed up, etc.); as far as I am concerned the last champion of bkb in Ireland/England/Wales/Scotland was Rooney at Crossmaglen, in the Currah of Kildare against McGinley. Nobody since then has fought straight out for the claim as 'King of The Travellers' let alone as champion bkb of Europe. I can name a bunch of men more qualified in Europe who do bkb that is more deserving of the recognition than Quinn, such as current unlicensed gloved champion Mark Potter who dabbles in bkb and mma.

TBH mate you sound very inexperienced !.
If you knew anything about the sport under the (traveler/gypsy) rules James fights under you would know that its a different rule set ,because your a good ring boxer with gloves dont mean your a good bare fist man (and visa versa ) ,this is a often gets looked past with the inexperienced observer .
The majority of best bare knuckle men did not come with a great boxing back grounds .
You slate Quins opponents but you dont seem to realize that in our culture bare fist fighting is our national sport like football is for you ,its bred in us to fight and i can assure you theres men in our culture would be more than a match for the likes of gunn a ring boxer who has pretty much not fought anyone with a long bare knuckle background ! ,Gunn just bought a belt and said he was the best before he fought any well known bare knuckle men !
BTW the way I thought i would just put you right about a few things,In my culture Rooney was never even close to being considered our king fighter,general consensus was Bartley Gorman was the best man amongst men...no one has took that tittle since ether ;)

DaveBoyMorrison wrote:

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^^^One of Bartley Gorman's BKB opponents Don Halden, whose career was cut short due to a detached retina I believe. Halden later became a figurehead in the early unlicensed gloved circuit. Gorman claimed that Halden hit him the hardest of any opponent he ever faced, for Halden hit Gorman with a cheap shot and cracked Gorman's cheek bone. Gorman kayoed Halden.

I think Bartley described him as a British title challenger...been years since I read it. Again, why no fights against the other men claiming a bkb title at the time.

I your opinion, who was the best man Bartley fought?

According to my dad ,even as an old man Bartley beat Henry Francis ,and take it from me Francis is an animal ,hes built looks like Lenny Maclean , one year on the downs Francis beat 3 brothers one after another .
Take it from me Bartley beat some of the best men amongst his own culture of people,no point in me mentioning names you wouldnt of heard of, my old man tells me the only time Gorman ever gto beat was against a gang tooled up lol

mrpedigree wrote:

HomicideHenry wrote:

mrpedigree wrote:Gunn has been KOed by a bum of a welterweight and has been stopped and knocked out all his career ,James ent .

you really dont get the difference between rounds and no time limits ? and you dont see the difference in having no ring ether ?
If you dont then you really shouldn't open your mouth anymore about something you dont know fcuk all about .

You've had run ins with the McDonagh's have ya ? Whats your name then and where you from then ?

I'm sorry but even Quinn admits he has only had a handful of fights in bkb and in the amateurs, while Gunn had quite an extensive amateur/toughman career before turning pro and ended up being ranked for a shot at the world cruiserweight title. There is such a wide range of difference in experience between the two men. Its like Dana White of the UFC said of Kimbo Slice once "He may be the toughest man at the barbecue, but he would get destroyed in the UFC." That being said James is a nice man, but his people cant take criticism well at all. Anyone with any sense knows that regardless of how many street fights you have had it doesnt translate to boxing. The last time McDonagh was in a proper ring or scrap was in the 80's when he won a regional title in the amateurs. These bkb fights in Ireland and England for the most part are between bully boys, door men, etc. There isnt an athlete among them. Quinn may train a few months before these bouts, but I am convinced he only has such success at bkb cus he maintains some measure of conditioning. It is not his skill that makes him great, because it is evident that he has quite a few faults (doesnt do well when backed up, etc.); as far as I am concerned the last champion of bkb in Ireland/England/Wales/Scotland was Rooney at Crossmaglen, in the Currah of Kildare against McGinley. Nobody since then has fought straight out for the claim as 'King of The Travellers' let alone as champion bkb of Europe. I can name a bunch of men more qualified in Europe who do bkb that is more deserving of the recognition than Quinn, such as current unlicensed gloved champion Mark Potter who dabbles in bkb and mma.

TBH mate you sound very inexperienced !.
If you knew anything about the sport under the (traveler/gypsy) rules James fights under you would know that its a different rule set ,because your a good ring boxer with gloves dont mean your a good bare fist man (and visa versa ) ,this is a often gets looked past with the inexperienced observer .
The majority of best bare knuckle men did not come with a great boxing back grounds .
You slate Quins opponents but you dont seem to realize that in our culture bare fist fighting is our national sport like football is for you ,its bred in us to fight and i can assure you theres men in our culture would be more than a match for the likes of gunn a ring boxer who has pretty much not fought anyone with a long bare knuckle background ! ,Gunn just bought a belt and said he was the best before he fought any well known bare knuckle men !
BTW the way I thought i would just put you right about a few things,In my culture Rooney was never even close to being considered our king fighter,general consensus was Bartley Gorman was the best man amongst men...no one has took that tittle since ether ;)

So is it a regional title that Bartley had then? Seems strange that although he didn't fight the best gypsy/traveller men he was the king...I know travellers who say Rooney was the man, or Simon Docherty. Some others say Bartley.

Who in your opinion was Bartleys best win in a bare knuckle scrap?

Mr Pedigree, I've got Bartleys book here, which lists all his fights according to him so if you mention names I have them all to hand.

Wasn't the Henry Francis fight a draw and no rematch fought?

I'm not trying to do down Bartley btw, I understand the man was a fighting machine in his day but reading his book gives the impression that there were a lot of men claiming the "title" and he didn't fight any of them bar Francis. A lot of his title fights were at he drop of a hat in pubs too. Is that how it works?

Also on the subject of James Quinn, some of the guys I've seen him fight, like Lurcher Joyce were pushovers. Surely these guys are not top bare fist men? James Quinn himself seems like a very decent gentleman.

Am happy to be put right by someone in the know.

Bartley Gorman more or less adbicated his claim to being the top travelling man in around 1994, though he would fight until 1997 (?) against Freedom Lee. Gorman 'bestowed' the gypsy title to John Fury, but Fury didn't want the title. The top men after his abdication were Joe Joyce, Dan Rooney, Aney McGinley, Bernie Ward and Henry Francis. Rooney beat Joyce, Rooney had the better of it against McGinley though that match was interupted by angry crowds; so really the last gypsy king was Dan Rooney. Nobody has fought for that distinction since.

According to my dad ,even as an old man Bartley beat Henry Francis ,and take it from me Francis is an animal ,hes built looks like Lenny Maclean , one year on the downs Francis beat 3 brothers one after another .
Take it from me Bartley beat some of the best men amongst his own culture of people,no point in me mentioning names you wouldnt of heard of, my old man tells me the only time Gorman ever gto beat was against a gang tooled up lol

Henry Francis was the best head butt man in the Isles. Damn near head butted Gorman to death. And that fight ended in a draw, as it was broken up by fair play men. Gorman was also drunk that night, so you could argue had he been sober he would have beaten Francis easily. As for that gang, it was Bob Gaskin's people, and before they came at him with crow bars and lead pipes, Gorman laid Gaskin out with one punch.

mrpedigree wrote:

HomicideHenry wrote:

mrpedigree wrote:Gunn has been KOed by a bum of a welterweight and has been stopped and knocked out all his career ,James ent .

you really dont get the difference between rounds and no time limits ? and you dont see the difference in having no ring ether ?
If you dont then you really shouldn't open your mouth anymore about something you dont know fcuk all about .

You've had run ins with the McDonagh's have ya ? Whats your name then and where you from then ?

I'm sorry but even Quinn admits he has only had a handful of fights in bkb and in the amateurs, while Gunn had quite an extensive amateur/toughman career before turning pro and ended up being ranked for a shot at the world cruiserweight title. There is such a wide range of difference in experience between the two men. Its like Dana White of the UFC said of Kimbo Slice once "He may be the toughest man at the barbecue, but he would get destroyed in the UFC." That being said James is a nice man, but his people cant take criticism well at all. Anyone with any sense knows that regardless of how many street fights you have had it doesnt translate to boxing. The last time McDonagh was in a proper ring or scrap was in the 80's when he won a regional title in the amateurs. These bkb fights in Ireland and England for the most part are between bully boys, door men, etc. There isnt an athlete among them. Quinn may train a few months before these bouts, but I am convinced he only has such success at bkb cus he maintains some measure of conditioning. It is not his skill that makes him great, because it is evident that he has quite a few faults (doesnt do well when backed up, etc.); as far as I am concerned the last champion of bkb in Ireland/England/Wales/Scotland was Rooney at Crossmaglen, in the Currah of Kildare against McGinley. Nobody since then has fought straight out for the claim as 'King of The Travellers' let alone as champion bkb of Europe. I can name a bunch of men more qualified in Europe who do bkb that is more deserving of the recognition than Quinn, such as current unlicensed gloved champion Mark Potter who dabbles in bkb and mma.

TBH mate you sound very inexperienced !.
If you knew anything about the sport under the (traveler/gypsy) rules James fights under you would know that its a different rule set ,because your a good ring boxer with gloves dont mean your a good bare fist man (and visa versa ) ,this is a often gets looked past with the inexperienced observer .
The majority of best bare knuckle men did not come with a great boxing back grounds .
You slate Quins opponents but you dont seem to realize that in our culture bare fist fighting is our national sport like football is for you ,its bred in us to fight and i can assure you theres men in our culture would be more than a match for the likes of gunn a ring boxer who has pretty much not fought anyone with a long bare knuckle background ! ,Gunn just bought a belt and said he was the best before he fought any well known bare knuckle men !
BTW the way I thought i would just put you right about a few things,In my culture Rooney was never even close to being considered our king fighter,general consensus was Bartley Gorman was the best man amongst men...no one has took that tittle since ether ;)

Every 'breed' or family has a king in a sense. Old Joe Joyce is still the king of his breed, as is McDonagh is the king of his breed, etc. Rooney however did fight for the official title in the Currah of Kildare in 1998, and most people acknowledge Rooney as the winner in that fight. Rooney however gave that life up when he became a born again Christian minister, which some of his sermons are available to be seen on youtube. As for Quinn's belt, if Gunn is to be criticised as well for fighting for a belt in bkb, Quinn must be doubly so criticised for buying a belt before hand. But lets be honest here, most travelling men are just tough guys, who may have conditioning but they have little skill. HOWEVER, when a fight is "all in" meaning no rules, which does occur from time to time, anything can happen; after all I can name some gypsy men who did in fact beat some respectable professional boxers in such matches. But, I can also name several bkb men who lost to glove boxers under the MQ rules.

I used to argue, once upon a time, that you cant compare apples to oranges; that John L. Sullivan could have beaten Ali and Louis on the same night under his own rules, but that isnt realistic. The fact is nobody knows what would happen; especially with a bare fist. When you got 200+ pound men hitting eachother, all it takes is one flush hit. That being said, I am inclined to think a professional boxer would strike first and most accurately against a bkb man, because a bkb man's objective is far more different than a gloved fighter's.

And lol football isnt my national sport in my eyes just so you know, any game that stops every 5 seconds and lasts two hours is the dullest sport in the world.

DaveBoyMorrison wrote:

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^^^One of Bartley Gorman's BKB opponents Don Halden, whose career was cut short due to a detached retina I believe. Halden later became a figurehead in the early unlicensed gloved circuit. Gorman claimed that Halden hit him the hardest of any opponent he ever faced, for Halden hit Gorman with a cheap shot and cracked Gorman's cheek bone. Gorman kayoed Halden.

I think Bartley described him as a British title challenger...been years since I read it. Again, why no fights against the other men claiming a bkb title at the time.

I your opinion, who was the best man Bartley fought?

The best man he fought could quite possibly have been Felix Rooney at the Grapes in Appleby, but then again that was when Gorman was an older man. In his prime years, its hard to say; and the fact being that he lost nearly ywo-three years of his career due to being attacked by the Gaskin clan, kind of puts a damper on his career as well, Jesus knows how many fights he may of had had that never happened. It does seem to me that he was a special fighter, for the real hardasses came out of the woodwork to fight him when Bartley was an old man, rather than face him at his best. Mexicana Webb and The Staffordshire Wolfman were probably the most dangerous; the best men he almost fought, but for one reason or another didnt happen, were Johnny and Bobby Frankham. The latter backed out when Johnny Frankham told him to, since it was going to be a million pound prize fight.

Henry, what do you know about Mexicana Webb or the so called Staffordshire Wolfman?

Honestly nothing, but I would perfer Gorman's chain of events as being reliable than I would say Paddy Monagahn's where there is no evidence what so ever.

The 1920's throughout 1950's
The Disputed Eras

There were no clear champions during this time frame, and it is fair to say that most any of the men listed here were at one point or another the top man. The 1920's-1930's goes as follows: Jimmy O'Neill of Lancashire, Benny Marshell of South Wales, John Ward of Ireland, John Small of the South East Coast, Leonard Smith of Cornwall, Edmond Penfold also of Cornwall, Jimmy Willet of the Isle of Wight, and Lofty Cooper of Hampshire. The 1930's-1940's goes as follows: Tiger Gorman of the West Midlands, Reilly Smith of Leicestershire, Johnny Winters of Nottinghamshire, Timmy Allen of the Midlands, Chris Wriles of Worcestershire, Billy Turnbull of Newcastle, Bartley Gorman II of Wales, Sam Price also of Wales, and Billy Rogers of Chestershire. The 1940's-1950's goes as follows: Jim Nielson, Oathy Burton, Tom Lee of Lancashire, Sam Ward of Darlington, Jim Crow also of Darlington, Bob Braddock, Black Bob Evans of Wales and Lawrence Ward of Ireland.

The 1950's-1960's was all Uriah Burton, with contenders as follows: Barney Docherty of Ireland, Big Tom Roberts, Caley Botton (who later became the champion of Canada), Wisdom Smith of Warwickshire, Tucker Dunn of London, Levi Silks of East Anglia, Billy Welch of Darlington, Oliver Ayers, Walter Harrison of Cheshire, Bobby MacPhee of Scotland and Ludlum Gaskin.

The 1970's-1990s was all Bartley Gorman V with contenders as follows: Mark Ripley of Kent, Simon Docherty of Ireland, John John Stanley of New Forest, Tom Taylor, Sam Gorman, Johnny Frankham of London, Joack Fletcher also of London, Les Stevens of Reading, Bob & Jackie Lowe of Scotland, Bob Gaskin of Yorkshire, Eric Boswell of Lancashire, person Smith of Yorkshire, Dan Rooney & John Rooney of Ireland, Ernie McGinley and Joe Joyce also of Ireland, Bob & Jamesy MacPhee of Scotland, Joey Boy Botton of London, Phillip Reilly of Selby, Charlie Cooper of New Forest and Henry Arab.

From 1992 til the 2000s the top men were as follows: Big John Fury, Henry Francis of Nottinghamshire, Terry Ward of Darlington, Lewis Welch also of Darlington, Ivan Botton of Nottinghamshire, Bernie Ward of Ireland, James Quinn McDonagh of Ireland, Dick Smith of Barnsley, Charlie Moore of Darlington, Jimmy Ayres, John Nevin of Ireland, Joe Boy Gaskin of Yorkshire, and Eli Frankham of London.

2010-PRESENT (The top names in the world are as follows) Bobby Gunn, Danny Batchelder, Mark Potter, James Quinn McDonagh, Dada5000 [associate of Kimbo Slice], Kimbo Slice, Tank Abbott, Jerry Gorman..... [will add more to the list as time goes on]

As stated before, however, since 1990 at the Curragh of Kildare there has been no single king of the travellers or bare knuckle champion of the Isles since Dan Rooney. To date James Quinn McDonagh is the most well known bare knuckler in the Isles, largely in part due to the success of the bare knuckle documentary KNUCKLE, and in the minds of some to be the best man in all of Europe.

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^^^Colin Strauch of South Africa, was the greatest victory that Uriah 'Big Just' Burton ever had in his long career. Strauch used boxing gloves, Burton used bag gloves. The match took place in 1958, and Burton kayoed Strauch. Burton also tried to arrange a match with Kitione Lave, but the authorities intervened. Burton was arguably the greatest 'all-in' (no rules) travelling man of all time. Burton also kayoed another man on the same night he beaten Strauch via knee to the face.