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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Jun 2010, 15:53
by Randyman
THEHAMMER321 wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Just came back from having menudo con pata for breakfast.... :TU: :bow:
you are gonna put Wheaties slogan out of business ''The breakfast of champions'' :lol:
It's funny but for years, possibly 25 or more, there have been Tee shirts with that exact logo, "Menudo, breakfast of Champions".

Truer words were never said
Randy :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Jun 2010, 15:54
by Panzerfaust
Randyman wrote:
Panzerfaust wrote:Hey Randy, hows the strike going?
A Federal mediator was brought in Thursday. The company and the union bargaining committee met and hammered out a new proposal. From what I can tell it's the same old poop as the original offer. We will vote again on Wednesday. The buzz going around is that we were sold out. We'll see.

I have been documenting the strike since it started. You can go here to see the photos.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/randyman05 ... 053387544/

You can look at them individually or click on the slideshow tab on the upper right hand side of the page.

Thanks for asking.
Randy

strikes is a very theme these days for me.
As we speak 47 000 workers in public sector over here are on strike, about time as they have been getting the gooey end of the stick for way to long now.
To you and your co-strikers : Image

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Jun 2010, 15:56
by Randyman
kikibalt wrote:Boeing, striking C-17 factory workers back in talks

Image

Sharon Jones joins striking co-workers as Boeing employees who assemble C-17 cargo planes in Long Beach walk off their jobs. (Irfan Khan / Los Angeles Times / May 11, 2010)

Los Angeles Times

June 4, 2010

Boeing Co. and C-17 factory workers in Long Beach were back at the negotiating table Thursday, hoping to break an impasse in a strike that has shut down Southern California's last remaining major airplane factory for nearly a month.

It marked the first time that the two sides had met since 1,700 assembly-line workers walked off their jobs May 11. They objected to a labor contract that they said entailed too many concessions.

The strike came as Boeing was facing the prospect of closing the plant in 2012 because of slowing orders for the C-17, a four-engine military cargo plane. Although the plane has been a workhorse for the U.S. military in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Air Force has said it now has enough C-17s to fulfill its airlift mission. Boeing has been able to win several small contracts with foreign buyers to help extend the life of the factory until 2012.

The Thursday meeting was arranged and moderated by federal mediator Linda Gonzalez. The United Auto Workers Local 148 has said the labor contract has too many concessions, including a lower company contribution for pensions and higher co-payments for medical plans.

U.S. officials said the labor dispute needed federal mediation because of the strike's effect on the economy. The strike has affected nearly 700 suppliers employing 30,000 people in 44 states. In Long Beach, the Boeing plant is the largest private employer. In addition to the striking assembly workers, the C-17 program employs an additional 3,000 people in various support and administrative positions.

"A strike is lose-lose for everybody," said Stan Klemchuk, Local 148 president, during a break in the talks Thursday. "This mediator is a godsend. Hopefully, this will lessen the hostilities, so we can put this thing to rest."

Union members received their last check May 20 and their healthcare coverage stopped May 31. Union workers receive $200 a week in strike pay and get partial health coverage through the union's international strike fund.

"We're hopeful that the union will reconsider the company's offer," said Cindy Anderson, a Boeing spokeswoman. "Anything that brings about a resolution is welcomed."

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Thanks for posting that Frank! I'm in it for the duration. I just hope were not getting screwed (I'm using the polite word). :shame:

Randy

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Jun 2010, 15:56
by Randyman
Panzerfaust wrote:
Randyman wrote:
Panzerfaust wrote:Hey Randy, hows the strike going?
A Federal mediator was brought in Thursday. The company and the union bargaining committee met and hammered out a new proposal. From what I can tell it's the same old poop as the original offer. We will vote again on Wednesday. The buzz going around is that we were sold out. We'll see.

I have been documenting the strike since it started. You can go here to see the photos.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/randyman05 ... 053387544/

You can look at them individually or click on the slideshow tab on the upper right hand side of the page.

Thanks for asking.
Randy

strikes is a very theme these days for me.
As we speak 47 000 workers in public sector over here are on strike, about time as they have been getting the gooey end of the stick for way to long now.
To you and your co-strikers : Image
:TU: :TU: :TU: :TU: :lol:

I added the photo to my strike scene photos. Thanks!!

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Jun 2010, 15:59
by Rick Farris
Randyman wrote:
Panzerfaust wrote:Hey Randy, hows the strike going?
A Federal mediator was brought in Thursday. The company and the union bargaining committee met and hammered out a new proposal. From what I can tell it's the same old poop as the original offer. We will vote again on Wednesday. The buzz going around is that we were sold out. We'll see.

I have been documenting the strike since it started. You can go here to see the photos.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/randyman05 ... 053387544/

You can look at them individually or click on the slideshow tab on the upper right hand side of the page.

Thanks for asking.
Randy

Randy . . . I don't get involved with my union's issues aside from support when needed.
We the members of the International Alliance ot Theatrical Stage Employees have also been sold out by past leadership, so I understand your situation. Good luck, I hope this ends soon and you're back to work.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Jun 2010, 16:06
by Randyman
Rick Farris wrote:
Randyman wrote:
Panzerfaust wrote:Hey Randy, hows the strike going?
A Federal mediator was brought in Thursday. The company and the union bargaining committee met and hammered out a new proposal. From what I can tell it's the same old poop as the original offer. We will vote again on Wednesday. The buzz going around is that we were sold out. We'll see.

I have been documenting the strike since it started. You can go here to see the photos.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/randyman05 ... 053387544/

You can look at them individually or click on the slideshow tab on the upper right hand side of the page.

Thanks for asking.
Randy

Randy . . . I don't get involved with my union's issues aside from support when needed.
We the members of the International Alliance ot Theatrical Stage Employees have also been sold out by past leadership, so I understand your situation. Good luck, I hope this ends soon and you're back to work.
I'm the same way Rick, I don't get too involved either, with the day to day issues but once the fight starts............

Randy

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Jun 2010, 17:32
by kikibalt
Boeing, C-17 workers reach tentative labor pact

A vote on the proposed contract is scheduled for Wednesday. If approved by the 1,700 assembly workers, production at the military aircraft factory in Long Beach could resume as early as the next day.

By W.J. Hennigan, Los Angeles Times

June 5, 2010

Boeing Co. and C-17 assembly workers in Long Beach have reached a tentative labor agreement that could bring to an end a strike that has shut down Southern California's last remaining major airplane factory for nearly a month.

The Chicago-based aerospace company and the United Auto Workers Local 148, representing 1,700 workers at the military aircraft factory, struck the deal late Friday after two days of talks arranged by a federal mediator.

The union's rank-and-file are scheduled to vote on the proposed deal Wednesday. If approved, production could resume as early as the next day, said Local 148 president Stan Klemchuk.

"Boeing put together a good deal here," Klemchuk said. "One thing about negotiations: You don't get everything you want. But we're happy with what was offered."

The assembly line workers walked off their jobs May 11, after rejecting a labor contract they said imposed too many concessions, including a lower company contribution for pensions and higher employee medical copayments.

Under the new proposed five-year contract, workers would not get a raise this year, but would get a $4,000 lump sum payout. They would get a 3% raise each year over the remaining life of the contract. In addition, Boeing would increase its pension contribution by $2 to $81 a month for every year of service.

Also, employees would pay 13% of their medical costs in an HMO plan, down from 15% under the previous contract offer.

"We think both sides had to give a little to reach this tentative agreement," said Cindy Anderson, a Boeing spokeswoman.

The strike came as Boeing was facing the prospect of closing the plant in 2012 because of slowing orders for the massive, four-engine military cargo plane.

Although the plane has been a workhorse for the U.S. military in Iraq and Afghanistan, orders have been slowing. With no additional orders, the sprawling factory, adjacent to Long Beach Airport, could close in 2012.

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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Jun 2010, 19:27
by Rick Farris
I have a feeling that Cotto is going to lose tonight? By decison?

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Jun 2010, 19:42
by kikibalt
Rick Farris wrote:I have a feeling that Cotto is going to lose tonight? By decison?
I think so too, by decison, Foreman can't break an egg, I seen him fight and I hadn't seen a feather fisted fighter like Foreman in many years...

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Jun 2010, 20:02
by THEHAMMER321
Rick Farris wrote:
Chuck1052 wrote:I went to the same school as Jamaal Wilkes, Cabrillo Junior High School in Ventura, California. Wilkes would go on to star on the UCLA basketball team featuring Bill Walton, the San Francisco Warriors featuring Rick Barry, and the Los Angeles Lakers featuring Magic Johnson and Kareem Abul-Jabbar. John Wooden praised Wilkes as both a basketball player and a student at UCLA.

I hope that Wooden's family, friends and family accept my condolences.

- Chuck Johnston
Chuck, Jamal Wilkes was great.
Saw Jamal in a movie when I was kid, he might have still been in college, he played a promising up and coming basketball star who get's shot by a cop, his name in the movie was ''cornbread'' :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Jun 2010, 20:08
by kikibalt
THEHAMMER321 wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:
Chuck1052 wrote:I went to the same school as Jamaal Wilkes, Cabrillo Junior High School in Ventura, California. Wilkes would go on to star on the UCLA basketball team featuring Bill Walton, the San Francisco Warriors featuring Rick Barry, and the Los Angeles Lakers featuring Magic Johnson and Kareem Abul-Jabbar. John Wooden praised Wilkes as both a basketball player and a student at UCLA.

I hope that Wooden's family, friends and family accept my condolences.

- Chuck Johnston
Chuck, Jamal Wilkes was great.
Saw Jamal in a movie when I was kid, he might have still been in college, he played a promising up and coming basketball star who get's shot by a cop, his name in the movie was ''cornbread'' :TU:
"Cornbread and Cabbage"

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Jun 2010, 20:11
by THEHAMMER321
kikibalt wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:I have a feeling that Cotto is going to lose tonight? By decison?
I think so too, by decison, Foreman can't break an egg, I seen him fight and I hadn't seen a feather fisted fighter like Foreman in many years...
I won't be watching, I have never seen Foreman fight but you just sealed the deal cause I can't stand non punchers, call me what you want, but I like a guy who no matter how far behind he is can get you out of there, I love the flawed but powerful puncher, I wouldn't have cared if Pernell Whitaker went 100-0 I still would not have paid money to see him fight. :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Jun 2010, 21:27
by kikibalt

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Jun 2010, 23:32
by THEHAMMER321
kikibalt wrote:Western Movies...Olympics

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUSGKlGCIT4

Stranded In The Jungle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx37MyryrnE
Frank what do you call Chuck berry's dance where he kicks with one leg and bounces on the other, I remember my dad doing that when he was dancing. :witzend:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 06 Jun 2010, 00:15
by kikibalt
THEHAMMER321 wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Western Movies...Olympics

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUSGKlGCIT4

Stranded In The Jungle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx37MyryrnE
Frank what do you call Chuck berry's dance where he kicks with one leg and bounces on the other, I remember my dad doing that when he was dancing. :witzend:
Don't know Paul, never was much of a chuck Berry fan.... :oo

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 06 Jun 2010, 00:46
by CNorkusJr
Chuck Berry's I believe is "duck walking".

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 06 Jun 2010, 08:08
by THEHAMMER321
Up with the chickens again, Frank where are the roosters :lol: , all you unlucky guys who watched that limping match yesterday could have watched a good fight on Youtube, there are many, I watched one of my favorites from the early ESPN days,William ''caveman'' Lee vs John Locicero, all action still one of the best fights I have ever seen.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 06 Jun 2010, 09:01
by kikibalt
THEHAMMER321 wrote:Up with the chickens again, Frank where are the roosters :lol: , all you unlucky guys who watched that limping match yesterday could have watched a good fight on Youtube, there are many, I watched one of my favorites from the early ESPN days,William ''caveman'' Lee vs John Locicero, all action still one of the best fights I have ever seen.
The damn rooster over-slept, Paulino. I'm done watching fights after last night bullshit.... :witzend:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 06 Jun 2010, 10:09
by Panzerfaust
Mark Knopfler: song for Sonny Liston. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dL3zBu7u54

Great tune

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 06 Jun 2010, 10:23
by kikibalt
I remember back circa 1948 the feds throw a raid at the Simons Brickyard where my dad was working at, the men were lined up, some illegal immigrants, others not, to get in a bus, my dad gets in the bus, takes a seat as a fed comes around asking for papers, he ask my dad for his papers in Spanish.
“Papel's?”
“What papers? Dad ask in almost perfect English
“What’re you doing in the bus?”
“Well, you said get in the bus, and that you would give us a sandwich”
‘Get off!”
“Okay, but where’s my sandwich?”
“Off!’

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 06 Jun 2010, 10:39
by bennie
THEHAMMER321 wrote:Up with the chickens again, Frank where are the roosters :lol: , all you unlucky guys who watched that limping match yesterday could have watched a good fight on Youtube, there are many, I watched one of my favorites from the early ESPN days,William ''caveman'' Lee vs John Locicero, all action still one of the best fights I have ever seen.
Your dad was smart, Frankie. Lee, by the way, said the Locicero war took everything out of him and that he had nothing left for Hagler, whom he described as so smooth.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 06 Jun 2010, 11:27
by kikibalt
Buchanan & Goodman

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oxx8WZZD0Q

"The Flying Saucer"

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 06 Jun 2010, 13:54
by THEHAMMER321
Famous sightings, saw one of the most famous pimps in history the other day, no I didn't see Don King :lol:, and no he is not really a pimp,but got famous playing one on T.V, Antonio ''huggy bear'' Fargas playing poker at the Palms hotel, he is in his mid sixties now.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 06 Jun 2010, 14:19
by THEHAMMER321
kikibalt wrote:I remember back circa 1948 the feds throw a raid at the Simons Brickyard where my dad was working at, the men were lined up, some illegal immigrants, others not, to get in a bus, my dad gets in the bus, takes a seat as a fed comes around asking for papers, he ask my dad for his papers in Spanish.
“Papel's?”
“What papers? Dad ask in almost perfect English
“What’re you doing in the bus?”
“Well, you said get in the bus, and that you would give us a sandwich”
‘Get off!”
“Okay, but where’s my sandwich?”
“Off!’
as a Chicano growing up in the 1940's, did you feel unfairly treated by police, teachers etc. :witzend:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 06 Jun 2010, 14:25
by kikibalt
Was going to invite Connie out to dinner last nite, but I didn't, afraid she was going to say yes... :oo