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kikibalt wrote:Was going to invite Connie out to dinner last nite, but I didn't, afraid she was going to say yes...

THEHAMMER321 wrote:

kikibalt wrote:I remember back circa 1948 the feds throw a raid at the Simons Brickyard where my dad was working at, the men were lined up, some illegal immigrants, others not, to get in a bus, my dad gets in the bus, takes a seat as a fed comes around asking for papers, he ask my dad for his papers in Spanish.
“Papel's?”
“What papers? Dad ask in almost perfect English
“What’re you doing in the bus?”
“Well, you said get in the bus, and that you would give us a sandwich”
‘Get off!”
“Okay, but where’s my sandwich?”
“Off!’

as a Chicano growing up in the 1940's, did you feel unfairly treated by police, teachers etc.

By the police? yes, in the late '40's and into the '50's, I was aways getting pull over for no reason at all, by the teachers, again yes, we, the chicano kids, would not allowed to go to elementary school with the white kids, I didn't go to school with the white kids till I got to Jr. high, in high school I was ask by the VP if I didn't rather go to work than school, in other words, to drop out of school....

THEHAMMER321 wrote:

kikibalt wrote:Was going to invite Connie out to dinner last nite, but I didn't, afraid she was going to say yes...

I told Connie these this morning and she said.
"I can't believe how cheap you are with me"
"Cheap with you babe?, I treat you right, I buy you hair spray, I buy an ice cream and split it with you, I treat you right babe...

kikibalt wrote:

THEHAMMER321 wrote:

kikibalt wrote:Was going to invite Connie out to dinner last nite, but I didn't, afraid she was going to say yes...

I told Connie these this morning and she said.
"I can't believe how cheap you are with me"
"Cheap with you babe?, I treat you right, I buy you hair spray, I buy an ice cream and split it with you, I treat you right babe...

my dad always used this expression when referring to someone cheapness ''he is closer than paint is to the wall with his money'' I always loved that saying.

Going to watch Trooper Hook on the western channel, starring Joel McCrae and Barbara Stanwyck starting in a minute

THEHAMMER321 wrote:Going to watch Trooper Hook on the western channel, starring Joel McCrae and Barbara Stanwyck starting in a minute

kikibalt wrote:

THEHAMMER321 wrote:

kikibalt wrote:Was going to invite Connie out to dinner last nite, but I didn't, afraid she was going to say yes...

I told Connie these this morning and she said.
"I can't believe how cheap you are with me"
"Cheap with you babe?, I treat you right, I buy you hair spray, I buy an ice cream and split it with you, I treat you right babe...

Connie must keep in mind that you are a "kept man", and that merits some respect.

Lakers-Celtics, game-2 . . .

This is going to be a rough, physical game. You know, like boxing used to be.

NBA Half-Time . . .

Lakers -
Celtics -

All due credit to the Boston Celtics. They won tonight's game while taking it to the Los Angeles Lakers and playing team basketball. Over the last fifty or so years, it seems that the Celtics find a way to win against the Lakers in the playoffs.

- Chuck Johnston

Celtics

Regarding John Wooden, he apparently was always willing to help a young coach. On his office wall, my son's basketball coach had a framed letter from Wooden.

Coach Rodgers had heard that Wooden was always willing to give advise to a coach having problems. I don't remember what the issue was, but Coach Rodgers was having some kind of problem with his team, so he decided to write a letter to Coach Wooden, wondering if the famous coach would really respond. A week letter, Coach Rodgers received a handwritten two page letter from Coach Wooden in which Wooden offered his analysis of the problem, and gave some excellent advice about how to resolve it. I think it says alot about the character of the man that he would take the time to write a two-page letter to a "nobody" high school basketball coach that he had never met in his life, but needed his help with a problem.

RIP Coach Wooden.

Dub Huntley's career in boxing wasn't by the book, but he had a good man in his corner



Trainer Dub Huntley, right, works with middleweight boxer Manuel Roman at the La Habra Boxing Club. (Gina Ferazzi / Los Angeles Times / May 13, 2009)

Jerry Crowe

Huntley has been in the fight game for 58 years, and at age 70 he still trains boxers at Broadway Boxing Gym in South L.A. But it isn't the same without his close friend, the late Jerry Boyd, author of the book that formed the basis of the Oscar-winning film 'Million Dollar Baby.'
By Jerry Crowe

June 6, 2010

Boxing continues to stir Dub Huntley. He still trains fighters. And when a major championship bout comes on television, he gathers friends and family to watch.

After 58 years in the fight game, Huntley still loves it.

But it's different now.

He misses his cut man.

Huntley and the late Jerry Boyd were more than corner colleagues. They were the best of friends.

"Me and Jerry, we hit it off when we first met," Huntley says. "We did everything together."

Boyd, under the pen name F.X. Toole, turned their adventures into a critically acclaimed book, "Rope Burns: Stories from the Corner." The book in turn formed the basis of Clint Eastwood's Academy Award-winning 2004 film, "Million Dollar Baby," with traces of Huntley's personality embodied in two central characters — played by Eastwood and Oscar winner Morgan Freeman.

Boyd, however, died unexpectedly two years before the film's release, taking a piece of Huntley's heart with him.

"He left too early," Huntley says.

Boyd, who as Toole became a literary sensation at age 70, was honored posthumously Friday in New York as winner of the Boxing Writers Assn. of America's A.J. Liebling Award. It was another reminder to Huntley that his friend is gone.

Huntley, a 70-year-old grandfather, long ago came to grips with Boyd's death. But when his friend, dying of pneumonia, took his last breath in September 2002, the longtime trainer "went into a depression," says Jessie, his wife of nearly 50 years.

"A lot of time right now," Huntley says in regard to training fighters, "I don't want to be doing it no more."

But still he carries on.

Seated in his tiny office/equipment room at the Broadway Boxing Gym in South Los Angeles, he explains. Referencing Boyd, he says, "I wanted us to get a world champion together. I always say, 'He gone, but if I ever get a world champion, he'll feel it.' "

An African American from Cairo, Ga., Huntley forged his improbable friendship with Boyd, a white man from the South Bay, more than 30 years ago, when Boyd turned to the sport in his late 40s intending nothing more than to get in shape.

Encountering Huntley, he asked the trainer how much he'd charge to work with him, and Huntley said he'd do it for free.

"I went home and told my wife, 'This old white guy came in the gym and want me to train him,' " Huntley recalls. "I said I wasn't going to charge him nothing and she said, 'Why?' And I said, 'Because I'm going to run him out of the gym.' "

Huntley by then was a veteran of the fight game, having thrown his first knockout punch while still in grammar school.

"When I was 12," he says, "I was boxing a kid at school. I knock him out. My dad said, 'If you never drink or smoke, you can be a fighter.' And I put that in my mind.

"I never drank and never smoked. Still haven't."

But that didn't make him a great fighter. Born W.L. Huntley, the seventh of 10 kids born into a family of farmers, the middleweight won 17 of 39 pro bouts. He lost 19, with three draws.

"A lot of 'em I lost," Huntley insists, "I didn't lose."

In January 1970, during a bout in Rome, he caught a thumb in his left eye, suffering a detached retina.

"When I came out of the ring, I couldn't see the step," he says. "I had no feeling for it. I said, 'Something's wrong.' But I wouldn't tell nobody. I kept on trying to fight."

Nodding toward his wife, he says, "One day she went to the fight and she say, 'What wrong?' I said, 'Nothing.' "

But they both knew.

Crushed that his dream of winning a world championship was over, Huntley vowed to never set foot in a gym again. Before long, however, he was back, this time as a trainer.

Among the fighters he has worked with are Iran Barkley, Johnny Tapia and Muhammad Ali's daughter, Laila, whose errant punch inadvertently knocked out two of his front teeth.

Meanwhile, he never did shake Boyd, who kept turning up every day wanting to learn more about the sweet science.

Eventually, Huntley asked him to be his cut man and they traveled the world together, working corners.

Boyd, a frustrated writer who didn't sell his first story until he was 69, later surprised his friend by telling him he was going to have a book published. For fear of spooking his fighters, Boyd hadn't told anyone in boxing he was a writer.

"He said, 'If I make any money from this book, you and I will never have to worry about nothing else,' " Huntley says. " 'Believe me,' he says, 'you will not have to worry about money.' He said, 'We're going to have our own gym. You have your office in the gym and I'm going to have my office in the gym.' "

But by the time the movie was made, Boyd was gone.

"I didn't make no money off that," Huntley says. "But I believe if he had been here, I would have got some.

"The only thing I got from 'Million Dollar Baby,' they sent a limo to pick me up and take me to the awards."

Not the Academy Awards, but an awards show at USC.

Huntley takes pride, however, in Boyd's "Rope Burns" dedication to "Dub Huntley, my daddy in boxing."

Says Huntley: "I thought it was wonderful. I really feel in my heart that he loved me. And I would have never thought he would feel that way about me."

The feeling, of course, was mutual.

Still, Huntley has one regret.

"Every day I'd come to the gym, he'd be there waiting on me," he says, laughing. "I should have charged him."

[email protected]

raylawpc wrote:Celtics

Going into Boston it's 1-1.

Another point of view:

Going into Boston its 1-1.

Frank, in his book, F.X. Toole wrote about mixing adrenalin chloride with Vaseline to create an effective patch to prevent additional bleeding once you have stopped the cut with a swab and adrenalin chloride solution. I had heard about that technique from a trainer who came to Oklahoma City to work with a fighter. (Unfortunately, I can't remember the fighter or the name of the trainer who told me about it.) I never tried the technique myself because I asked my druggist about it, and he told me that because the Vaseline would bind the adrenalin chemically, the substance wouldn't work as intended. Did you know any cutmen in LA who mixed adrenalin chloride with Vaseline for use in the corner? I never thought much about it after the talk with my druggist, but reading about it in Toole's book made me wonder.

Went this morning to my daughter melissa's graduation ceremony, it was at the Thomas and Mack arena, I was there on my 17th birthday on april 5 1984 when Kareem broke Wilts scoring record, pretty unlikely place considering we don't even have a pro basketball team, but the Utah JAZZ were playing some of there home games there and were playing the Laker's, congratulations to Melissa on graduating.

THEHAMMER321 wrote:Went this morning to my daughter melissa's graduation ceremony, it was at the Thomas and Mack arena, I was there on my 17th birthday on april 5 1984 when Kareem broke Wilts scoring record, pretty unlikely place considering we don't even have a pro basketball team, but the Utah JAZZ were playing some of there home games there and were playing the Laker's, congratulations to Melissa on graduating.

Congrats to Melissa. Was it high school or college?

raylawpc wrote:

THEHAMMER321 wrote:Went this morning to my daughter melissa's graduation ceremony, it was at the Thomas and Mack arena, I was there on my 17th birthday on april 5 1984 when Kareem broke Wilts scoring record, pretty unlikely place considering we don't even have a pro basketball team, but the Utah JAZZ were playing some of there home games there and were playing the Laker's, congratulations to Melissa on graduating.

Congrats to Melissa. Was it high school or college?

High school, srry forgot to specify, thanks Tom.

THEHAMMER321 wrote:

raylawpc wrote:

THEHAMMER321 wrote:Went this morning to my daughter melissa's graduation ceremony, it was at the Thomas and Mack arena, I was there on my 17th birthday on april 5 1984 when Kareem broke Wilts scoring record, pretty unlikely place considering we don't even have a pro basketball team, but the Utah JAZZ were playing some of there home games there and were playing the Laker's, congratulations to Melissa on graduating.

Congrats to Melissa. Was it high school or college?

High school, srry forgot to specify, thanks Tom.

Congrats again!

kikibalt wrote:Dub Huntley's career in boxing wasn't by the book, but he had a good man in his corner



Trainer Dub Huntley, right, works with middleweight boxer Manuel Roman at the La Habra Boxing Club. (Gina Ferazzi / Los Angeles Times / May 13, 2009)

Jerry Crowe

Huntley has been in the fight game for 58 years, and at age 70 he still trains boxers at Broadway Boxing Gym in South L.A. But it isn't the same without his close friend, the late Jerry Boyd, author of the book that formed the basis of the Oscar-winning film 'Million Dollar Baby.'
By Jerry Crowe

June 6, 2010

Boxing continues to stir Dub Huntley. He still trains fighters. And when a major championship bout comes on television, he gathers friends and family to watch.

After 58 years in the fight game, Huntley still loves it.

But it's different now.

He misses his cut man.

Huntley and the late Jerry Boyd were more than corner colleagues. They were the best of friends.

"Me and Jerry, we hit it off when we first met," Huntley says. "We did everything together."

Boyd, under the pen name F.X. Toole, turned their adventures into a critically acclaimed book, "Rope Burns: Stories from the Corner." The book in turn formed the basis of Clint Eastwood's Academy Award-winning 2004 film, "Million Dollar Baby," with traces of Huntley's personality embodied in two central characters — played by Eastwood and Oscar winner Morgan Freeman.

Boyd, however, died unexpectedly two years before the film's release, taking a piece of Huntley's heart with him.

"He left too early," Huntley says.

Boyd, who as Toole became a literary sensation at age 70, was honored posthumously Friday in New York as winner of the Boxing Writers Assn. of America's A.J. Liebling Award. It was another reminder to Huntley that his friend is gone.

Huntley, a 70-year-old grandfather, long ago came to grips with Boyd's death. But when his friend, dying of pneumonia, took his last breath in September 2002, the longtime trainer "went into a depression," says Jessie, his wife of nearly 50 years.

"A lot of time right now," Huntley says in regard to training fighters, "I don't want to be doing it no more."

But still he carries on.

Seated in his tiny office/equipment room at the Broadway Boxing Gym in South Los Angeles, he explains. Referencing Boyd, he says, "I wanted us to get a world champion together. I always say, 'He gone, but if I ever get a world champion, he'll feel it.' "

An African American from Cairo, Ga., Huntley forged his improbable friendship with Boyd, a white man from the South Bay, more than 30 years ago, when Boyd turned to the sport in his late 40s intending nothing more than to get in shape.

Encountering Huntley, he asked the trainer how much he'd charge to work with him, and Huntley said he'd do it for free.

"I went home and told my wife, 'This old white guy came in the gym and want me to train him,' " Huntley recalls. "I said I wasn't going to charge him nothing and she said, 'Why?' And I said, 'Because I'm going to run him out of the gym.' "

Huntley by then was a veteran of the fight game, having thrown his first knockout punch while still in grammar school.

"When I was 12," he says, "I was boxing a kid at school. I knock him out. My dad said, 'If you never drink or smoke, you can be a fighter.' And I put that in my mind.

"I never drank and never smoked. Still haven't."

But that didn't make him a great fighter. Born W.L. Huntley, the seventh of 10 kids born into a family of farmers, the middleweight won 17 of 39 pro bouts. He lost 19, with three draws.

"A lot of 'em I lost," Huntley insists, "I didn't lose."

In January 1970, during a bout in Rome, he caught a thumb in his left eye, suffering a detached retina.

"When I came out of the ring, I couldn't see the step," he says. "I had no feeling for it. I said, 'Something's wrong.' But I wouldn't tell nobody. I kept on trying to fight."

Nodding toward his wife, he says, "One day she went to the fight and she say, 'What wrong?' I said, 'Nothing.' "

But they both knew.

Crushed that his dream of winning a world championship was over, Huntley vowed to never set foot in a gym again. Before long, however, he was back, this time as a trainer.

Among the fighters he has worked with are Iran Barkley, Johnny Tapia and Muhammad Ali's daughter, Laila, whose errant punch inadvertently knocked out two of his front teeth.

Meanwhile, he never did shake Boyd, who kept turning up every day wanting to learn more about the sweet science.

Eventually, Huntley asked him to be his cut man and they traveled the world together, working corners.

Boyd, a frustrated writer who didn't sell his first story until he was 69, later surprised his friend by telling him he was going to have a book published. For fear of spooking his fighters, Boyd hadn't told anyone in boxing he was a writer.

"He said, 'If I make any money from this book, you and I will never have to worry about nothing else,' " Huntley says. " 'Believe me,' he says, 'you will not have to worry about money.' He said, 'We're going to have our own gym. You have your office in the gym and I'm going to have my office in the gym.' "

But by the time the movie was made, Boyd was gone.

"I didn't make no money off that," Huntley says. "But I believe if he had been here, I would have got some.

"The only thing I got from 'Million Dollar Baby,' they sent a limo to pick me up and take me to the awards."

Not the Academy Awards, but an awards show at USC.

Huntley takes pride, however, in Boyd's "Rope Burns" dedication to "Dub Huntley, my daddy in boxing."

Says Huntley: "I thought it was wonderful. I really feel in my heart that he loved me. And I would have never thought he would feel that way about me."

The feeling, of course, was mutual.

Still, Huntley has one regret.

"Every day I'd come to the gym, he'd be there waiting on me," he says, laughing. "I should have charged him."

[email protected]

Frank, didn't you post a picture on here once, with Huntley and one of your sons ?

THEHAMMER321 wrote:Went this morning to my daughter melissa's graduation ceremony, it was at the Thomas and Mack arena, I was there on my 17th birthday on april 5 1984 when Kareem broke Wilts scoring record, pretty unlikely place considering we don't even have a pro basketball team, but the Utah JAZZ were playing some of there home games there and were playing the Laker's, congratulations to Melissa on graduating.

Paul, congratulations to Melissa.

boxer: Doug Huntley

birth date 1943-01-01
division middleweight
alias Dub Huntley
Los Angeles, California, United States
won 17 (KO 4) + lost 19 (KO 3) + drawn 3 = 3



1970-10-06 Rafael Gutierrez 37-5-2
Sacramento, California, United States L PTS 10 10
1970-09-09 Charley Austin 37-34-7
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 10 10
1970-05-27 162½ Doyle Baird 173 28-3-1
Arena, Cleveland, Ohio, United States L SD 10 10
~ referee: John Christopher ~

1970-01-23 Juan Carlo Duran 52-6-7
Palazzo Dello Sport, Rome, Lazio, Italy L PTS 10 10
1970-01-07 158 Denny Moyer 160 66-20-3
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States L PTS 10 10
1969-11-17 159 Art Hernandez 161 37-12-2
Civic Auditorium, Omaha, Nebraska, United States L PTS 10 10
1969-07-02 Billy Hester 23-5-1
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States D PTS 10 10
1969-05-20 159 Mark Rowe 157½ 21-3-0
Royal Albert Hall, Kensington, London, United Kingdom L PTS 8 8x3
~ referee: Harry Gibbs ~

1969-01-21 160 Luis Manuel Rodriguez 157½ 90-7-0
Auditorium, Miami Beach, Florida, United States L UD 10 10
1968-11-28 160 Johnny Pritchett 162½ 31-0-1
Town Hall, Shoreditch, London, United Kingdom L PTS 10 10x3
~ referee: Bill Williams 48-49¾ ~
Boxing News 6/12/68

1968-11-13 Jimmy Rossette 163 13-3-0
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States L UD 10 10
1968-08-14 Carlos Monzon 50-3-8
Buenos Aires, Distrito Federal, Argentina L KO 4 10
Boxing News August 30, 1968

1968-04-29 Nessim Max Cohen 14-2-2
Palais des Sports, Paris, Paris, France L PTS 10 10
Boxing News May 10, 1968

1968-03-25 Jo Gonzales 33-3-2
Palais des Sports, Paris, Paris, France W PTS 10 10
Boxing News April 5, 1968

1968-03-11 Nessim Max Cohen 13-2-2
Paris, Paris, France L DQ 3 10
1968-03-07 Tom Bogs 38-0-0
K.B. Hallen, Copenhagen, Denmark L PTS 10 10
Boxing News March 15, 1968

1968-01-31 158 Denny Moyer 156 46-19-2
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States L UD 10 10
1967-11-13 Jacques Marty 18-3-0
Palais des Sports, Paris, Paris, France W PTS 10 10
Boxing News November 24, 1967

1967-10-16 Souleymane Diallo 39-2-2
Palais des Sports, Paris, Paris, France W PTS 10 10
Boxing News October 27, 1967

1967-08-22 Ruben Davila 2-2-0
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W KO 6
1967-08-14 Tony Montano 46-25-3
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 10 10
1967-06-26 158 Art Hernandez 159 32-6-2
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W UD 10 10
~ judge: Mike Petrovich 46-45 | judge: Ralph Mosa 46-45 | judge: Harold Buck 48-45 ~

1967-04-26 George Cooper 5-1-0
Auditorium, Oakland, California, United States D PTS 10 10
~ referee: Rudy Ortega 4-4 ~

1967-03-30 Carl Moore 16-15-5
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 10 10
1967-03-20 160 Tevel Holman 163 15-2-2
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W TKO 1 10
1967-01-30 159 Ferd Hernandez 163¾ 27-7-4
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States L PTS 10 10
1966-10-06 Willard Wynn 9-8-1
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 10 10
1966-09-15 Willard Wynn 8-8-1
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States L KO 1
1966-08-25 Gene Bryant 30-13-6
Fremont Hotel, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 10 10
1966-07-11 158 Nate Collins 157 9-9-0
Civic Auditorium, San Francisco, California, United States W SD 10 10
Collins was knocked down in the 4th round.

1966-04-21 157 Charley Austin 161 23-19-3
Fremont Hotel, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States L KO 7 10
1966-04-01 159 George Cooper 164½ 1-0-0
Auditorium, Oakland, California, United States L UD 6 6
1966-01-25 159 Pauli Mahoni 161 10-5-0
International Center Arena, Honolulu, Hawaii, United States L PTS 6 6
1966-01-06 159 Carl Moore 159 10-10-5
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 6 6
1965-10-14 158½ Wade Smith 159 4-1-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States D PTS 6 6
1965-07-01 161 Jimmy Rossette 162 1-0-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 2 5
1965-06-24 158 Jimmy Evans 154 2-0-1
Centennial Coliseum, Reno, Nevada, United States W PTS 8 8
~ referee: Don Phelan ~
Huntley was a last day substitute.

1965-06-01 161½ Tommy Gross 161 1-1-0
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W KO 1
1965-05-20 158½ Ken Watkins 159
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 5 5

Dub Huntley . . .

Dub was a far better boxer than his record indicates.
Like so often happens to talented West Coast guys, no work at home, so they are forced to fight top contenders in their hometowns.

I remember that Huntley made his pro debut on TV from the Olympic, in a stand-by bout, in one of the very earliest KTLA Ch-5 broadcasts.
He was a good one!

Rick Farris wrote:

THEHAMMER321 wrote:Went this morning to my daughter melissa's graduation ceremony, it was at the Thomas and Mack arena, I was there on my 17th birthday on april 5 1984 when Kareem broke Wilts scoring record, pretty unlikely place considering we don't even have a pro basketball team, but the Utah JAZZ were playing some of there home games there and were playing the Laker's, congratulations to Melissa on graduating.

Paul, congratulations to Melissa.

Thanks Rick.