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I never knew the actual reason Ken left Eddie, and actually, I still don't. Was it how he was taking too big a percentage or what? What was father Tommy's role in all this? I'll tell you one thing, to produce a Winstone, Buchanan and Jones over that period in time was no small feat. Thomas had the knack. He wasn't one of these "I have a towel over my shoulder, so I'm a trainer" types.

Scartissue[/quote]

Thomas was taking a third of Buchanan's purses, and when their contract expired and Buchanan demanded he take a quarter, Thomas walked.[/quote]

Bearing in mind that Eddie Thomas was both manager and trainer, is that percentage out of the ordinary??? Ken should have been as frugal with his money after his career. What was the cause of his marriage collapse and his kids estranged from him? Met him and his father Tommy once. Tried to ply me for drinks with stories. I wanted to hear them all but didn't feel like being taken. Great stories they had though. Good luck with todays game, Bennie. England and the US should make it through to the next round.

Scartissue

Rick Farris wrote:Lakers -

Congrats to the LA Lakers on their win last night and their 11th NBA title.

kikibalt wrote:Tom, on what day are you coming out to the coast?

Friday. I get into LAX at 11:15 a.m. It's a short trip this time. My flight out Sunday morning from LAX is 7:05 a.m.

raylawpc wrote:

kikibalt wrote:Tom, on what day are you coming out to the coast?

Friday. I get into LAX at 11:15 a.m. It's a short trip this time. My flight out Sunday morning from LAX is 7:05 a.m.

Tom, where are you staying Friday nite?

Congrats to The Lakers and their fans here.
I 'm glad for Ron Artest.
Nice to see him with a ring. Ive talked to him a couple times and found him to be one of the nicer guys in the NBA.

Ron Artest a St Johns Univ. ,Queens NY boy

kikibalt wrote:

raylawpc wrote:

kikibalt wrote:Tom, on what day are you coming out to the coast?

Friday. I get into LAX at 11:15 a.m. It's a short trip this time. My flight out Sunday morning from LAX is 7:05 a.m.

Tom, where are you staying Friday nite?

I don't know yet. I've been so busy the last two weeks, I haven't had a chance to book a room anyplace. I stayed at a Hotel in Westwood once that I liked. Probably there.

raylawpc wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

raylawpc wrote: Friday. I get into LAX at 11:15 a.m. It's a short trip this time. My flight out Sunday morning from LAX is 7:05 a.m.

Tom, where are you staying Friday nite?

I don't know yet. I've been so busy the last two weeks, I haven't had a chance to book a room anyplace. I stayed at a Hotel in Westwood once that I liked. Probably there.

There's a hotel next door to the Sportsmen's Lodge.

kikibalt wrote:

raylawpc wrote:

kikibalt wrote: Tom, where are you staying Friday nite?

I don't know yet. I've been so busy the last two weeks, I haven't had a chance to book a room anyplace. I stayed at a Hotel in Westwood once that I liked. Probably there.

There's a hotel next door to the Sportsmen's Lodge.

Thanks for the reminder!! I just booked a room there.

raylawpc wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

raylawpc wrote: I don't know yet. I've been so busy the last two weeks, I haven't had a chance to book a room anyplace. I stayed at a Hotel in Westwood once that I liked. Probably there.

There's a hotel next door to the Sportsmen's Lodge.

Thanks for the reminder!! I just booked a room there.

Art Hafey will be staying there too, he will also arrive on Friday, maybe you two can get together, Ruben Castillo will be with Art...

kikibalt wrote:

raylawpc wrote:

kikibalt wrote: There's a hotel next door to the Sportsmen's Lodge.

Thanks for the reminder!! I just booked a room there.

Art Hafey will be staying there too, he will also arrive on Friday, maybe you two can get together, Ruben Castillo will be with Art...

Castillo fought a guy I used to train with in Oklahoma named James Martinez. Carlos Zarate made his LA debut against James in 1974 at the Forum and stopped him in six or seven rounds. I worked James' corner three or four times, once on the card when "Memphis" Al Jones kayoed Boone Kirkman in Dallas, Texas.

raylawpc wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

raylawpc wrote: Thanks for the reminder!! I just booked a room there.

Art Hafey will be staying there too, he will also arrive on Friday, maybe you two can get together, Ruben Castillo will be with Art...

Castillo fought a guy I used to train with in Oklahoma named James Martinez. Carlos Zarate made his LA debut against James in 1974 at the Forum and stopped him in six or seven rounds. I worked James' corner three or four times, once on the card when "Memphis" Al Jones kayoed Boone Kirkman in Dallas, Texas.

Ruben, will be picking Hafey up from LAX, don't know if he is staying at the hotel. Ruben is an okay guy, a little loud for my taste, but nice a guy nonetheless

Do you know when Hafey's getting in? Maybe I can save Ruben a trip to the airport. . .

raylawpc wrote:Do you know when Hafey's getting in? Maybe I can save Ruben a trip to the airport. . .

Not sure Tom, but I think I heard that its late in the afternoon....

Well, if you hear something different, and if Ruben wants to save himself a trip out to LAX, I'd be glad to pick up Art or anyone else who is flying in about the time that I arrive.

raylawpc wrote:Well, if you hear something different, and if Ruben wants to save himself a trip out to LAX, I'd be glad to pick up Art or anyone else who is flying in about the time that I arrive.

Will do....

OLD CLASSIC PHOTO..WORLD BANTAMWIEGHT CHAMP JOSE BACCERA AND A 17 YEAR OLD TRINO SAVALA 1958

kikibalt wrote:

raylawpc wrote:

kikibalt wrote: Tom, where are you staying Friday nite?

I don't know yet. I've been so busy the last two weeks, I haven't had a chance to book a room anyplace. I stayed at a Hotel in Westwood once that I liked. Probably there.

There's a hotel next door to the Sportsmen's Lodge.

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The hotel is the Sportsman's Lodge. The hotel & event center are owned by two different people. The Lodge is a nice place to stay.

scartissue wrote:I never knew the actual reason Ken left Eddie, and actually, I still don't. Was it how he was taking too big a percentage or what? What was father Tommy's role in all this? I'll tell you one thing, to produce a Winstone, Buchanan and Jones over that period in time was no small feat. Thomas had the knack. He wasn't one of these "I have a towel over my shoulder, so I'm a trainer" types.

Scartissue

Thomas was taking a third of Buchanan's purses, and when their contract expired and Buchanan demanded he take a quarter, Thomas walked.[/quote]

Bearing in mind that Eddie Thomas was both manager and trainer, is that percentage out of the ordinary??? Ken should have been as frugal with his money after his career. What was the cause of his marriage collapse and his kids estranged from him? Met him and his father Tommy once. Tried to ply me for drinks with stories. I wanted to hear them all but didn't feel like being taken. Great stories they had though. Good luck with todays game, Bennie. England and the US should make it through to the next round.

Scartissue[/quote]

It wasn't really out of the ordinary, according to Buchanan in his autobiography. He said that most American managers took a third, and he was fighting largely in America. He wanted Thomas to take 25 per cent as most British managers do. England were hideous yesterday, Dan, really lousy. However, the USA showed great spirit in a great game and were robbed of a win.

raylawpc wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

raylawpc wrote: Thanks for the reminder!! I just booked a room there.

Art Hafey will be staying there too, he will also arrive on Friday, maybe you two can get together, Ruben Castillo will be with Art...

Castillo fought a guy I used to train with in Oklahoma named James Martinez. Carlos Zarate made his LA debut against James in 1974 at the Forum and stopped him in six or seven rounds. I worked James' corner three or four times, once on the card when "Memphis" Al Jones kayoed Boone Kirkman in Dallas, Texas.

Martinez was a great pro who fought everyone. I'm pretty sure he fought over here, too.

kikibalt wrote:For the Hammer.....

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Frank I am lost, is this because I am a taco bell fan.

raylawpc wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

raylawpc wrote: Thanks for the reminder!! I just booked a room there.

Art Hafey will be staying there too, he will also arrive on Friday, maybe you two can get together, Ruben Castillo will be with Art...

Castillo fought a guy I used to train with in Oklahoma named James Martinez. Carlos Zarate made his LA debut against James in 1974 at the Forum and stopped him in six or seven rounds. I worked James' corner three or four times, once on the card when "Memphis" Al Jones kayoed Boone Kirkman in Dallas, Texas.

I remember James Martinez, he ended up being a steppingstone for a lot of the good lightweights of the early 1980s, I just looked him up in boxrec, didnt realize he was still fighting in the late 1990s, needless to say he should have quit 15 years earlier.

Great photo of Baccera. Tough fighter in his day.



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It will be great to see Art Hafey at the California Boxing Hall of Fame banquet next Saturday.

As a fan of the Los Angeles Lakers since the middle 1960s, I was very happy to see them win the championship this year, especially when their opponent was the Boston Celtics in the finals. Hope that the Lakers and Celtics meet in the finals again in 2011.

The U.S. did show quite a bit of heart coming back and getting a 2-2 tie against Slovenia yesterday. But I do worry about the fact that the U.S. has given up three "soft" goals during their first two games of the World Cup.

It is true that England has looked absolutely terrible in their first two games of the World Cup. I wonder about how the English team was put together because it appears that the players don't seem to compliment each other well. Of course, I believe that Steven Gerrard and Frank Lampard should not been on the starting eleven at the same time because their playing styles don't mesh well.

- Chuck Johnston

Whats up did everyone go fishing today ?