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BigDoofus wrote: ↑24 Mar 2023, 05:51

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑24 Mar 2023, 05:42

Frostieballs wrote: ↑24 Mar 2023, 05:12

Krassyuk played that interview with a very straight bat. What he was actually saying was that no-one was particularly to blame as everyone had their own requirements.

The implication was, however, that it was Fury’s requirements that weren’t being met (and you could tell that from F W also)

You have to remember that Krassyuk (who definitely didn’t blame Usyk) has a vested interest in this fight happening so was being ambassadorial.

Please stop saying Usyk quit camp. It’s ludicrous. Fury wasn’t even in camp - according to his own trainer.

Yes, it's pretty clear from Warren's interview, that the breakdown in negotiation was due to Fury's demands, and that the two promoters basically did everything they could.

His point was that Usyk thinks he gets a better deal in Saudi later this year.
It was conclusively clear in Krassyuk’s interview that Fury wasn’t to blame.

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑24 Mar 2023, 05:56

BigDoofus wrote: ↑24 Mar 2023, 05:51

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑24 Mar 2023, 05:42

Yes, it's pretty clear from Warren's interview, that the breakdown in negotiation was due to Fury's demands, and that the two promoters basically did everything they could.

His point was that Usyk thinks he gets a better deal in Saudi later this year.
It was conclusively clear in Krassyuk’s interview that Fury wasn’t to blame.

You really need to get some professional help.

The Gratest wrote: ↑24 Mar 2023, 05:55 "So, from my perspective, this was not the single clause, it was a list of things that we had to compromise, compromise, compromise. It seemed like Tyson Fury, after Usyk accepted for 70/30, Tyson Fury felt that he can put a saddle on his neck and start rding Usyk; no, it won't happen.

"And from Tyson's perspective, I wouldn't blame him, no. It's his decision, he's the champion, he's the personality, it's his attitude how he treats people, how he treats business."

It's OK Doofy, reading comprehension isn't your strong point, repeat trolling is, although you're pretty crap at that as well to be truthful

BigDoofus wrote: ↑24 Mar 2023, 06:05

The Gratest wrote: ↑24 Mar 2023, 05:55 "So, from my perspective, this was not the single clause, it was a list of things that we had to compromise, compromise, compromise. It seemed like Tyson Fury, after Usyk accepted for 70/30, Tyson Fury felt that he can put a saddle on his neck and start rding Usyk; no, it won't happen.

"And from Tyson's perspective, I wouldn't blame him, no. It's his decision, he's the champion, he's the personality, it's his attitude how he treats people, how he treats business."

It's OK Doofy, reading comprehension isn't your strong point, repeat trolling is, although you're pretty crap at that as well to be truthful

So in that interview he doesn’t blame Fury. In his other interview on TalkSPORT With FW “I’m not even blaming him....it is what it is....”
FW was still confident of making the fight unaware that Usyk had got on a 10 hour train from Poland.

BigDoofus wrote: ↑24 Mar 2023, 06:05

The Gratest wrote: ↑24 Mar 2023, 05:55 "So, from my perspective, this was not the single clause, it was a list of things that we had to compromise, compromise, compromise. It seemed like Tyson Fury, after Usyk accepted for 70/30, Tyson Fury felt that he can put a saddle on his neck and start rding Usyk; no, it won't happen.

"And from Tyson's perspective, I wouldn't blame him, no. It's his decision, he's the champion, he's the personality, it's his attitude how he treats people, how he treats business."

It's OK Doofy, reading comprehension isn't your strong point, repeat trolling is, although you're pretty crap at that as well to be truthful

So in that interview he doesn’t blame Fury. In his other interview on TalkSPORT With FW “I’m not even blaming him....it is what it is....”
FW was still confident of making the fight unaware that Usyk had got on a 10 hour train from Poland.

The Gratest wrote: ↑24 Mar 2023, 06:15

BigDoofus wrote: ↑24 Mar 2023, 06:05

The Gratest wrote: ↑24 Mar 2023, 05:55 "So, from my perspective, this was not the single clause, it was a list of things that we had to compromise, compromise, compromise. It seemed like Tyson Fury, after Usyk accepted for 70/30, Tyson Fury felt that he can put a saddle on his neck and start rding Usyk; no, it won't happen.

"And from Tyson's perspective, I wouldn't blame him, no. It's his decision, he's the champion, he's the personality, it's his attitude how he treats people, how he treats business."

It's OK Doofy, reading comprehension isn't your strong point, repeat trolling is, although you're pretty crap at that as well to be truthful

So in that interview he doesn’t blame Fury. In his other interview on TalkSPORT With FW “I’m not even blaming him....it is what it is....”
FW was still confident of making the fight unaware that Usyk had got on a 10 hour train from Poland.

He does actually blame him there, but in a roundabout way that needs a little bit of brain power to understand.

You mean this one?

'Gentlemen, hope you are all OK. I am not going into details as well start to blame or point the finger at anyone, but would like to officially announce that team Usyk is out of further negotiations regarding April 29. You guys can put your pencils down and we will speak in the near future.'

https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1370 ... talksport/

If so, again your reading comprehension is terrible.
If not that one, can you link and highlight the one you mean please?

BigDoofus wrote: ↑24 Mar 2023, 05:38 Making concessions is easy when you don’t intend to honour them.
You’ve had a rant without answering the question. How did Usyk’s winter in the sunshine help the war effort?

BigDoofus wrote: ↑24 Mar 2023, 06:20

The Gratest wrote: ↑24 Mar 2023, 06:15

BigDoofus wrote: ↑24 Mar 2023, 06:05
So in that interview he doesn’t blame Fury. In his other interview on TalkSPORT With FW “I’m not even blaming him....it is what it is....”
FW was still confident of making the fight unaware that Usyk had got on a 10 hour train from Poland.

He does actually blame him there, but in a roundabout way that needs a little bit of brain power to understand.

You mean this one?

'Gentlemen, hope you are all OK. I am not going into details as well start to blame or point the finger at anyone, but would like to officially announce that team Usyk is out of further negotiations regarding April 29. You guys can put your pencils down and we will speak in the near future.'

https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1370 ... talksport/

If so, again your reading comprehension is terrible.
If not that one, can you link and highlight the one you mean please?

Krassyuk said that Fury isn’t to blame. You’re trying to twist his words.
Hopefully in time we will find out why Usyk did a runner.

BigDoofus wrote: ↑24 Mar 2023, 06:20

The Gratest wrote: ↑24 Mar 2023, 06:15

BigDoofus wrote: ↑24 Mar 2023, 06:05
So in that interview he doesn’t blame Fury. In his other interview on TalkSPORT With FW “I’m not even blaming him....it is what it is....”
FW was still confident of making the fight unaware that Usyk had got on a 10 hour train from Poland.

He does actually blame him there, but in a roundabout way that needs a little bit of brain power to understand.

You mean this one?

'Gentlemen, hope you are all OK. I am not going into details as well start to blame or point the finger at anyone, but would like to officially announce that team Usyk is out of further negotiations regarding April 29. You guys can put your pencils down and we will speak in the near future.'

https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1370 ... talksport/

If so, again your reading comprehension is terrible.
If not that one, can you link and highlight the one you mean please?

Krassyuk said that Fury isn’t to blame. You’re trying to twist his words.
Hopefully in time we will find out why Usyk did a runner.

dan28uk wrote: ↑24 Mar 2023, 07:41 its plain and simple allegedly and fury are fight usyk has pulled out of the fight after ridiculous demands from fury 70/30 and 50/50 in rematch that "wasnt" negotiated usyks team arent hard to deal with fury seems to be unless youre his mate like in december i don't believe much that comes out of warrens mouth about ticket sales from december or ppv numbers its funny how i haven't heard too much of john fury spouting off

mickey1975 wrote: ↑24 Mar 2023, 07:56

dan28uk wrote: ↑24 Mar 2023, 07:41 its plain and simple allegedly and fury are fight usyk has pulled out of the fight after ridiculous demands from fury 70/30 and 50/50 in rematch that "wasnt" negotiated usyks team arent hard to deal with fury seems to be unless youre his mate like in december i don't believe much that comes out of warrens mouth about ticket sales from december or ppv numbers its funny how i haven't heard too much of john fury spouting off

John has been quiet since Tyson tweeted him, his dad and the prince had done a deal. Well, apart from mouthing off about the bet.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑24 Mar 2023, 08:12 I think he’s lost the plot. It seems like he’s had everyone over. Fwank is far from thick and was convinced. Maybe Jimmy James Harrington was lying to my pal, Jimmy does seem a bit random to be part of the inner circle, which he undoubtedly is. I really don’t know. I don’t think he’s scared of Usyk but he’s well aware he will have to be 100% ready to beat him.

ashall2 wrote: ↑24 Mar 2023, 07:11 Doofus by name, Doofus by nature.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑24 Mar 2023, 08:12 I think he’s lost the plot. It seems like he’s had everyone over. Fwank is far from thick and was convinced. Maybe Jimmy James Harrington was lying to my pal, Jimmy does seem a bit random to be part of the inner circle, which he undoubtedly is. I really don’t know. I don’t think he’s scared of Usyk but he’s well aware he will have to be 100% ready to beat him.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑24 Mar 2023, 08:12 I think he’s lost the plot. It seems like he’s had everyone over. Fwank is far from thick and was convinced. Maybe Jimmy James Harrington was lying to my pal, Jimmy does seem a bit random to be part of the inner circle, which he undoubtedly is. I really don’t know. I don’t think he’s scared of Usyk but he’s well aware he will have to be 100% ready to beat him.