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Acctually, the ban is lessened a bit.they now permit 4 rounders its just a bunch of has beens and never was's playing shop. The bann is still total in swedens NeXT door neighbour norway, people seem positive about legalizing pro boxing again. Though theres still alot of predjudice against boxing . But we Are getting there, slowly.....slowly

Panzerfaust wrote:Acctually, the ban is lessened a bit.they now permit 4 rounders its just a bunch of has beens and never was's playing shop. The bann is still total in swedens NeXT door neighbour norway, people seem positive about legalizing pro boxing again. Though theres still alot of predjudice against boxing . But we Are getting there, slowly.....slowly

I had heard that. 4-rounders came in again about two or three years ago, didn't they?

raylawpc wrote:

Panzerfaust wrote:Acctually, the ban is lessened a bit.they now permit 4 rounders its just a bunch of has beens and never was's playing shop. The bann is still total in swedens NeXT door neighbour norway, people seem positive about legalizing pro boxing again. Though theres still alot of predjudice against boxing . But we Are getting there, slowly.....slowly

I had heard that. 4-rounders came in again about two or three years ago, didn't they?

Thats right Tom ,They had two or three shows the first year and a half. Lost lots of money After that its been pretty quiet as far as i know. Thats a far way to drop since liston . Patterson and ingo fought there only a few years before the bann

Panzerfaust wrote:

raylawpc wrote:

Panzerfaust wrote:Acctually, the ban is lessened a bit.they now permit 4 rounders its just a bunch of has beens and never was's playing shop. The bann is still total in swedens NeXT door neighbour norway, people seem positive about legalizing pro boxing again. Though theres still alot of predjudice against boxing . But we Are getting there, slowly.....slowly

I had heard that. 4-rounders came in again about two or three years ago, didn't they?

Thats right Tom ,They had two or three shows the first year and a half. Lost lots of money

Well, maybe Princess Vickie's new hubby can get boxing restored to its full glory. I think I read that he's some kind of sports junkie . . . and it will give him something to do other than perpetuating the Bernadotte royal family line.

I consider this great news
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Chargin back with Golden Boy

Golden Boy Promotions has announced that Hall of Fame promoter and matchmaker Don Chargin will renew his affiliation with Golden Boy Promotions as a special consultant and advisor effective immediately. “I am thrilled to have Don back at Golden Boy,” said Golden Boy Promotions CEO, Richard Schaefer. “His advice and guidance has been and will continue to be very valuable to us. His Hall of Fame credentials and track record speak for themselves. Golden Boy has recently expanded its network and venue deals and as a result has started to sign some of the most promising young fighters and Don will be involved on a daily basis in the guidance and development of these young fighters’ careers. His knowledge and expertise in this industry will assist in building the younger generation of fighters of today into the future champions of tomorrow.”
Don Chargin commented, “I have the utmost respect for Oscar and Richard and their team and how they have strategically built Golden Boy into one of the leading boxing promotional companies in the world. I will have a regular presence at their office and events and look forward to working with Richard and assisting him with Golden Boy’s continued growth and expansion. Golden Boy is a company of champions and it is my pleasure to work with their team to recruit and build the champions of tomorrow.”

Pac-Mayweather Nov. 13th?
Looks like this might happen. Just six days before the WBHOF banquet the following friday in Las Vegas.
The fight would be at the MGM Grand. Pac has agreed to drug testing. Mayweather hasn't responded?
I have a feeling this will happen on this date.

Rick, call me before you hit the road, dude

Good afternoon everyone, Frank how have you been, have been a little busy this past week, still I have enjoyed reading all the good info everybody has contributed, thinking about some names I haven't mentioned on here before one was Felipe Canela, seen him fight a couple of times here in Vegas back in the early 1980s was pretty popular with the fans I remember just never made it to the big time, anyone know much about him.

THEHAMMER321 wrote:Good afternoon everyone, Frank how have you been, have been a little busy this past week, still I have enjoyed reading all the good info everybody has contributed, thinking about some names I haven't mentioned on here before one was Felipe Canela, seen him fight a couple of times here in Vegas back in the early 1980s was pretty popular with the fans I remember just never made it to the big time, anyone know much about him.

Hammer, the wife let you out?....

All I know about Felipe Canela is that he was Tony's last amateur opponent, they fought at the Olympic with Tony winning by decision.

Another guy who I think had a chance of getting a shot at a title was Gonzalo Montellano, I would say he probably didn't have good connections and ended up fighting a lot of meaningless fights, in boxing being marketable a lot of times outweighs talent.

THEHAMMER321 wrote:Another guy who I think had a chance of getting a shot at a title was Gonzalo Montellano, I would say he probably didn't have good connections and ended up fighting a lot of meaningless fights, in boxing being marketable a lot of times outweighs talent.

He wasn't that good, Hammer, could never get him in the ring with Frankie, that my man, would had been a great fight for Frankie...

Boxing back in Detroit
By Bob Ryder


Friday, July 23 marks the return of boxing action to suburban Detroit’s Royal Oak Music Theatre with Detroit’s “Big Three” of Alexis Hloros, Darryl Cunningham, and Vernon Paris headlining the show. In the eight round main event, “Hurricane” Hloros faces what appears to be his toughest test of late in the person of Ray Darden. Darden always comes to fight and middleweight Hloros will have to be at his best to keep his 12 bout win streak intact.
In a ten round super middleweight contest, Darryl “The People’s Choice” Cunningham faces the experienced Rubin Williams. Although having lost eight fights in a row, Williams has faced the much better opposition including Jeff Lacy for the world title. Williams has stated that he is coming to win this one and it is his experience that he hopes to utilize in stopping Cunningham’s rise. Cunningham has moved his record to (19-2, 9 KOs) having won his last twelve in a row.

In what shapes up to be the possible fight of the night, Vernon “VIP” Paris crosses gloves with Courtney Burton. The age old “veteran versus young gun” match up gives this eight round junior welterweight match up its potential intrigue. Burton, inactive for over three years after losing four straight fights by KO, returned to take a decision over Angel Hernandez in February of this year. Undefeated Paris (21-0, 13 KOs) is coming off his first national TV exposure in winning a split decision over Juan Santiago on Showtime in May. It was not one of young Paris’ best outings and Burton, who holds KO’s over such fighters as Gabriel Ruelas and Angel Manfredy, will be looking to capitalize should Vernon exhibit any repeat mistakes.

Fan favorites Rich Power, Willie Fortune, Jesse Carradine, Walter Burns, and Domonique Dolton all appear in separate under card bouts in what looks to be an entertaining night of professional boxing.

Tickets are available at the Royal Oak Music Theatre Box Office, by phone at 248-399-2980 ext 3, or at www.royaloakmusictheatre.com

Rick Farris wrote:Boxing back in Detroit
By Bob Ryder


Friday, July 23 marks the return of boxing action to suburban Detroit’s Royal Oak Music Theatre with Detroit’s “Big Three” of Alexis Hloros, Darryl Cunningham, and Vernon Paris headlining the show. In the eight round main event, “Hurricane” Hloros faces what appears to be his toughest test of late in the person of Ray Darden. Darden always comes to fight and middleweight Hloros will have to be at his best to keep his 12 bout win streak intact.
In a ten round super middleweight contest, Darryl “The People’s Choice” Cunningham faces the experienced Rubin Williams. Although having lost eight fights in a row, Williams has faced the much better opposition including Jeff Lacy for the world title. Williams has stated that he is coming to win this one and it is his experience that he hopes to utilize in stopping Cunningham’s rise. Cunningham has moved his record to (19-2, 9 KOs) having won his last twelve in a row.

In what shapes up to be the possible fight of the night, Vernon “VIP” Paris crosses gloves with Courtney Burton. The age old “veteran versus young gun” match up gives this eight round junior welterweight match up its potential intrigue. Burton, inactive for over three years after losing four straight fights by KO, returned to take a decision over Angel Hernandez in February of this year. Undefeated Paris (21-0, 13 KOs) is coming off his first national TV exposure in winning a split decision over Juan Santiago on Showtime in May. It was not one of young Paris’ best outings and Burton, who holds KO’s over such fighters as Gabriel Ruelas and Angel Manfredy, will be looking to capitalize should Vernon exhibit any repeat mistakes.

Fan favorites Rich Power, Willie Fortune, Jesse Carradine, Walter Burns, and Domonique Dolton all appear in separate under card bouts in what looks to be an entertaining night of professional boxing.

Tickets are available at the Royal Oak Music Theatre Box Office, by phone at 248-399-2980 ext 3, or at http://www.royaloakmusictheatre.com

Boxing in the Motor City . . .

I'll be in Detroit on this night. If I'm free that evening, I might catch this card.
However, we'll likely be out in the streets filming some kind of drama, they want to show a gritty Detroit, at night, and we usually film all night on Fridays.
We finish early saturday morning. On location we film six days, Sundays we're off.
We'll have thirteen episodes filmed by Christmas. If ABC likes the first few, they will order us to continue production on an additional nine episodes.
Twenty-two episodes is a full season for network television. That would push the production to April.

Maybe we won't work on this Friday night?
If we don't, I know a few guys on the crew who'd be down for boxing.
We no longer have much boxing in L.A. I'd like to see what they have in Detroit today.

I can't help but remember a Detroit guy we got to see in L.A. and that was Hedgeman Lewis.
But that was many years ago. It's been nearly four decades since Hedge nearly upset Jose Napoles for the welter title.
And he had three great fights with Indian Red Lopez in the late 60's. Hedge fought every great welter of the era.
About the same time, Detroit had one helluva national amateur champion in Ronnie Harris.

Just as the Teamsters Gym in L.A. and the Main St. Gym, are both long gone, so are Detroit's legendary clubs, such as the Brewster gym where Joe Louis, Holman Williams, Sugar Ray Robinson and Eddie Futch learned their lessons. Even the popular Kronk Gym, the place where Emanuel Steward developed champions such as Tommy Hearns, is gone. Kronk closed it's doors a couple years ago.

Henry Hank is dead, and Detroit's best usually found their way out of the Motor City after making their fortunes.
I'm anxious to see if there is anything resembling boxing, as we know it, in the Motor City. If there is, I'll find it.


-Rick Farris

Rick Farris wrote:More on Moyer . . .

I spoke with boxing historian, David Martinez, today.
David is in touch with Denny Moyer's daughter.
More stories on Denny should be coming. -Rick Farris
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Hi David. I just spoke with Tommy Moyer, This is Denny Moyer's youngest daughter Cindy. I know we met at the Hall of fame induction. I am so releived to see you doing something for my dad. I would like to help out in any way that I can. I have talked to some who are very upset there was no infoabout dads passing...Please do not hesitate to ask me for anything.

Cindy Moyer.

"I can say with all honesty that the seventeen years of boxing were the best seventeen years of my life."

Denny Moyer to Pete Ehrmann

bennie wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:More on Moyer . . .

I spoke with boxing historian, David Martinez, today.
David is in touch with Denny Moyer's daughter.
More stories on Denny should be coming. -Rick Farris
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Hi David. I just spoke with Tommy Moyer, This is Denny Moyer's youngest daughter Cindy. I know we met at the Hall of fame induction. I am so releived to see you doing something for my dad. I would like to help out in any way that I can. I have talked to some who are very upset there was no infoabout dads passing...Please do not hesitate to ask me for anything.

Cindy Moyer.

"I can say with all honesty that the seventeen years of boxing were the best seventeen years of my life."

Denny Moyer to Pete Ehrmann

I imagine a boxer like Denny Moyer would be very popular today.
However, with that in mind, so would most who came up in his era.
I just can't get excited about boxing today. Has boxing changed that much or have I?

ABC drama 'Detroit 1-8-7' to be filmed in Michigan


ABC’s new fall drama “Detroit 1-8-7” is not just using the city’s name. The entire series is going to be filmed here, producers say.

Today, the show’s creators and its writing team were wrapping up a visit and clarified that the character-driven crime series, based around the lives of a Detroit homicide unit, will be fully produced here, the first-ever network series to be shot completely in Detroit.

Shot during the winter, the show's pilot was filmed in Atlanta. There were previous news reports stating that the entire series would be filmed there or Los Angeles, but Atlanta was never a consideration, producers said.

“We want people to fall in love with this show and its characters and come back and visit Detroit every week,” executive producer and creator Jason Richman says, adding that there have been some misrepresentative reports since ABC announced it greenlit the show in January. “It doesn’t serve us as storytellers to slam a place,” he says.

Executive producer and show runner David Zabel (“ER”) says a studio and stage sets for “Detroit 1-8-7” are currently being constructed in Highland Park before filming commences in mid-July. A symbiotic relationship between the show and the community is a must Zabel says, adding that ABC allocated a budget that will inject more than $25 million into the local economy through production costs for its first 12 episodes. The network plans to hire 190 full-time employees here, not including countless extras.

“Hopefully this goes and goes for a bunch of year and years, Zabel adds. “This is a crime show but we will explore various nooks and crannies in the communities and within that context there’s a lot of opportunity to see what’s positive in the city and see what’s heroic about the people fighting for what’s best for the city of Detroit.”

The series is scheduled to debut at 10 p.m. Sept. 21.

RIP Denny Moyer

http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/index. ... moyer.html

kikibalt wrote:

THEHAMMER321 wrote:Another guy who I think had a chance of getting a shot at a title was Gonzalo Montellano, I would say he probably didn't have good connections and ended up fighting a lot of meaningless fights, in boxing being marketable a lot of times outweighs talent.

He wasn't that good, Hammer, could never get him in the ring with Frankie, that my man, would had been a great fight for Frankie...

I thought Frankie was mostly a junior lightweight, I know if he didn't want to fight Frankie than he certainly didn't want Tony either, because what I remember about Gonzalo was that he was to easy to hit and that would have been a disaster versus the power of ''The tiger''.

Menudo day today.

THEHAMMER321 wrote:Menudo day today.

Just got back....

THEHAMMER321 wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

THEHAMMER321 wrote:Another guy who I think had a chance of getting a shot at a title was Gonzalo Montellano, I would say he probably didn't have good connections and ended up fighting a lot of meaningless fights, in boxing being marketable a lot of times outweighs talent.

He wasn't that good, Hammer, could never get him in the ring with Frankie, that my man, would had been a great fight for Frankie...

I thought Frankie was mostly a junior lightweight, I know if he didn't want to fight Frankie than he certainly didn't want Tony either, because what I remember about Gonzalo was that he was to easy to hit and that would have been a disaster versus the power of ''The tiger''.

Frankie fought most of his early fights at 32-33, Frankie would have fought Montellano at 35 had they taken the fight, at that weight I think Frankie would have stopped Montellano in the late rounds, Tony? he would stopped him at any weight, in the mid-rounds.

Had a scare yesterday, heard a rumor that Bobby Chacon had died, Don Fraser did some checking around and found that Bobby is still standing, so much for rumors....

Rick Farris wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:Boxing back in Detroit
By Bob Ryder


Friday, July 23 marks the return of boxing action to suburban Detroit’s Royal Oak Music Theatre with Detroit’s “Big Three” of Alexis Hloros, Darryl Cunningham, and Vernon Paris headlining the show. In the eight round main event, “Hurricane” Hloros faces what appears to be his toughest test of late in the person of Ray Darden. Darden always comes to fight and middleweight Hloros will have to be at his best to keep his 12 bout win streak intact.
In a ten round super middleweight contest, Darryl “The People’s Choice” Cunningham faces the experienced Rubin Williams. Although having lost eight fights in a row, Williams has faced the much better opposition including Jeff Lacy for the world title. Williams has stated that he is coming to win this one and it is his experience that he hopes to utilize in stopping Cunningham’s rise. Cunningham has moved his record to (19-2, 9 KOs) having won his last twelve in a row.

In what shapes up to be the possible fight of the night, Vernon “VIP” Paris crosses gloves with Courtney Burton. The age old “veteran versus young gun” match up gives this eight round junior welterweight match up its potential intrigue. Burton, inactive for over three years after losing four straight fights by KO, returned to take a decision over Angel Hernandez in February of this year. Undefeated Paris (21-0, 13 KOs) is coming off his first national TV exposure in winning a split decision over Juan Santiago on Showtime in May. It was not one of young Paris’ best outings and Burton, who holds KO’s over such fighters as Gabriel Ruelas and Angel Manfredy, will be looking to capitalize should Vernon exhibit any repeat mistakes.

Fan favorites Rich Power, Willie Fortune, Jesse Carradine, Walter Burns, and Domonique Dolton all appear in separate under card bouts in what looks to be an entertaining night of professional boxing.

Tickets are available at the Royal Oak Music Theatre Box Office, by phone at 248-399-2980 ext 3, or at http://www.royaloakmusictheatre.com

Boxing in the Motor City . . .

I'll be in Detroit on this night. If I'm free that evening, I might catch this card.
However, we'll likely be out in the streets filming some kind of drama, they want to show a gritty Detroit, at night, and we usually film all night on Fridays.
We finish early saturday morning. On location we film six days, Sundays we're off.
We'll have thirteen episodes filmed by Christmas. If ABC likes the first few, they will order us to continue production on an additional nine episodes.
Twenty-two episodes is a full season for network television. That would push the production to April.

Maybe we won't work on this Friday night?
If we don't, I know a few guys on the crew who'd be down for boxing.
We no longer have much boxing in L.A. I'd like to see what they have in Detroit today.

I can't help but remember a Detroit guy we got to see in L.A. and that was Hedgeman Lewis.
But that was many years ago. It's been nearly four decades since Hedge nearly upset Jose Napoles for the welter title.
And he had three great fights with Indian Red Lopez in the late 60's. Hedge fought every great welter of the era.
About the same time, Detroit had one helluva national amateur champion in Ronnie Harris.

Just as the Teamsters Gym in L.A. and the Main St. Gym, are both long gone, so are Detroit's legendary clubs, such as the Brewster gym where Joe Louis, Holman Williams, Sugar Ray Robinson and Eddie Futch learned their lessons. Even the popular Kronk Gym, the place where Emanuel Steward developed champions such as Tommy Hearns, is gone. Kronk closed it's doors a couple years ago.

Henry Hank is dead, and Detroit's best usually found their way out of the Motor City after making their fortunes.
I'm anxious to see if there is anything resembling boxing, as we know it, in the Motor City. If there is, I'll find it


-Rick Farris

Rick,
Its sad that Detroit Boxing is on the ropes.That city had as good a boxing history as anywhere in the country.And,for a long time.
I had the pleasure of fighting on a couple cards with Kronk fighters.Jackie Beard, Keith Vinning, and Tommy Hearns' brother Billy.
When the Kronk Team showed up at the weigh ins with Manny Steward, they were like royalty.
They were a tight squared away group.I still remember the Kronk jacket with The Marine Corps colors.I was impressed.
It was the early eighties,a very different time.I miss those days man.

Expug wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:Boxing back in Detroit
By Bob Ryder


Friday, July 23 marks the return of boxing action to suburban Detroit’s Royal Oak Music Theatre with Detroit’s “Big Three” of Alexis Hloros, Darryl Cunningham, and Vernon Paris headlining the show. In the eight round main event, “Hurricane” Hloros faces what appears to be his toughest test of late in the person of Ray Darden. Darden always comes to fight and middleweight Hloros will have to be at his best to keep his 12 bout win streak intact.
In a ten round super middleweight contest, Darryl “The People’s Choice” Cunningham faces the experienced Rubin Williams. Although having lost eight fights in a row, Williams has faced the much better opposition including Jeff Lacy for the world title. Williams has stated that he is coming to win this one and it is his experience that he hopes to utilize in stopping Cunningham’s rise. Cunningham has moved his record to (19-2, 9 KOs) having won his last twelve in a row.

In what shapes up to be the possible fight of the night, Vernon “VIP” Paris crosses gloves with Courtney Burton. The age old “veteran versus young gun” match up gives this eight round junior welterweight match up its potential intrigue. Burton, inactive for over three years after losing four straight fights by KO, returned to take a decision over Angel Hernandez in February of this year. Undefeated Paris (21-0, 13 KOs) is coming off his first national TV exposure in winning a split decision over Juan Santiago on Showtime in May. It was not one of young Paris’ best outings and Burton, who holds KO’s over such fighters as Gabriel Ruelas and Angel Manfredy, will be looking to capitalize should Vernon exhibit any repeat mistakes.

Fan favorites Rich Power, Willie Fortune, Jesse Carradine, Walter Burns, and Domonique Dolton all appear in separate under card bouts in what looks to be an entertaining night of professional boxing.

Tickets are available at the Royal Oak Music Theatre Box Office, by phone at 248-399-2980 ext 3, or at http://www.royaloakmusictheatre.com

Boxing in the Motor City . . .

I'll be in Detroit on this night. If I'm free that evening, I might catch this card.
However, we'll likely be out in the streets filming some kind of drama, they want to show a gritty Detroit, at night, and we usually film all night on Fridays.
We finish early saturday morning. On location we film six days, Sundays we're off.
We'll have thirteen episodes filmed by Christmas. If ABC likes the first few, they will order us to continue production on an additional nine episodes.
Twenty-two episodes is a full season for network television. That would push the production to April.

Maybe we won't work on this Friday night?
If we don't, I know a few guys on the crew who'd be down for boxing.
We no longer have much boxing in L.A. I'd like to see what they have in Detroit today.

I can't help but remember a Detroit guy we got to see in L.A. and that was Hedgeman Lewis.
But that was many years ago. It's been nearly four decades since Hedge nearly upset Jose Napoles for the welter title.
And he had three great fights with Indian Red Lopez in the late 60's. Hedge fought every great welter of the era.
About the same time, Detroit had one helluva national amateur champion in Ronnie Harris.

Just as the Teamsters Gym in L.A. and the Main St. Gym, are both long gone, so are Detroit's legendary clubs, such as the Brewster gym where Joe Louis, Holman Williams, Sugar Ray Robinson and Eddie Futch learned their lessons. Even the popular Kronk Gym, the place where Emanuel Steward developed champions such as Tommy Hearns, is gone. Kronk closed it's doors a couple years ago.

Henry Hank is dead, and Detroit's best usually found their way out of the Motor City after making their fortunes.
I'm anxious to see if there is anything resembling boxing, as we know it, in the Motor City. If there is, I'll find it


-Rick Farris

Rick,
Its sad that Detroit Boxing is on the ropes.That city had as good a boxing history as anywhere in the country.And,for a long time.
I had the pleasure of fighting on a couple cards with Kronk fighters.Jackie Beard, Keith Vinning, and Tommy Hearns' brother Billy.
When the Kronk Team showed up at the weigh ins with Manny Steward, they were like royalty.
They were a tight squared away group.I still remember the Kronk jacket with The Marine Corps colors.I was impressed.
It was the early eighties,a very different time.I miss those days man.

Those are great memories, Brian. A lot of top fighters came from Kronk.
I know what you mean about missing those days, things were different.

Rick, you sound pretty excited about going to Detroit so I know it's a good thing. I hope you get a chance to find some trace of the old Detroit boxing scene. Keep us posted.

Randy