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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 13 Jul 2010, 22:28
by Randyman
kikibalt wrote:Its a 399 page book, he sell them for $15.00 + postage, I have his email if you would like to buy one.
Yes Frank, please send me his email and thanks!
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 13 Jul 2010, 22:35
by Randyman
There is an interesting article on my cousin Louie Burke on IBRO's website. You can check it out at my website at
http://boxing-ring.blogspot.com
or you can go to IBRO's page here:
http://www.ibroresearch.com/?p=3586
I would have posted it here but it's a bit long.
Randy
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 13 Jul 2010, 22:47
by kikibalt
Randyman wrote:kikibalt wrote:Its a 399 page book, he sell them for $15.00 + postage, I have his email if you would like to buy one.
Yes Frank, please send me his email and thanks!
Randy, I forward you a email he send me to a couple of your emails address's, let me know if you get it...
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 14 Jul 2010, 02:39
by CNorkusJr
I speak through email to Ted from time to time. Here is what he sent me if anybody is interested:
"Planet Boxing" is a journey to many different global locations to track the lineage of the sport and to show that, despite cultural and social differences between each country, boxing remains a common denominator throughout the world.
The book is now available for shipping. The list price is $15 plus shipping ($2.77 in the U.S.).
Here is a link to AMAZON (my publisher) if you wish to order from them.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss? ... &x=15&y=18
If you're interested in ordering this book, please send payment to:
Ted Sares
P.O. Box 2777
North Conway, NH 03860
All the best,
Ted The Bull
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 14 Jul 2010, 02:56
by CNorkusJr
Randy I just read your article on the Molina-Lundy fight on the IBRO page.
I didnt know that occurred.
Short and to the point. Well written. It is one of a few problems I see with many match-ups nowadays. The mudslinging is getting out of hand. There was always room for wisecracks to build up the fights- but some things just come out bad. Ali's taunt of Joe Frazier as a "Gorilla in Manila" I thought was a step on the other side of a fine line. A few things are set-up that way to sell more tickets to a bout where "wow, these two guys really hate each other"; but some things you can tell are not in the script.
Good for Molina. Some things are best said with your punches doing the talking.
Props to Mr. Rick Farris for stating this case better on the IBRO page. I defer to Mr. Farris.
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 14 Jul 2010, 09:52
by bennie
It wouldn't surprise me if daddy Molina wound up Lundy. Molina Snr was always up for a bit of banter.
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 14 Jul 2010, 10:42
by raylawpc
Well, I hope Rick and Monica made it out to Detroit okay, and are learning to adjust to Midwestern heat and humidity.
BTW, Rick, when you read this, they had Jennifer Love Hewitt on the Tonight Show last night. I can see why you like her so much. It was a great interview, and she seemed to be a very well grounded person. Funny and unpretentous.
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 14 Jul 2010, 10:57
by bennie
raylawpc wrote:Well, I hope Rick and Monica made it out to Detroit okay, and are learning to adjust to Midwestern heat and humidity.
BTW, Rick, when you read this, they had Jennifer Love Hewitt on the Tonight Show last night. I can see why you like her so much. It was a great interview, and she seemed to be a very well grounded person. Funny and unpretentous.
That, and the fact she's got a great pair of lungs.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 14 Jul 2010, 11:38
by kikibalt
Seen Bobby Chacon yesterday at the Golden State Boxers Association weekly meeting, he sends his regards to one and all, especially to Tom Ray.
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 14 Jul 2010, 11:40
by raylawpc
bennie wrote:raylawpc wrote:Well, I hope Rick and Monica made it out to Detroit okay, and are learning to adjust to Midwestern heat and humidity.
BTW, Rick, when you read this, they had Jennifer Love Hewitt on the Tonight Show last night. I can see why you like her so much. It was a great interview, and she seemed to be a very well grounded person. Funny and unpretentous.
That, and the fact she's got a great pair of lungs.

Those are certainly two good reasons to be a Jennifer Love Hewitt fan!

(But it's nice that she actually has a personality to go with them.)
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 14 Jul 2010, 11:41
by raylawpc
kikibalt wrote:Seen Bobby Chacon yesterday at the Golden State Boxers Association weekly meeting, he sends his regards to one and all, especially to Tom Ray.
Really? I'm flattered.
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 14 Jul 2010, 11:48
by kikibalt
raylawpc wrote:kikibalt wrote:Seen Bobby Chacon yesterday at the Golden State Boxers Association weekly meeting, he sends his regards to one and all, especially to Tom Ray.
Really? I'm flattered.
Really!!!!
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 14 Jul 2010, 12:05
by kikibalt
That was a damn fly flying around in my bedroom, got my Red Ryder BB Rifle and shot it down with one shot....

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 14 Jul 2010, 13:55
by raylawpc
kikibalt wrote:raylawpc wrote:kikibalt wrote:Seen Bobby Chacon yesterday at the Golden State Boxers Association weekly meeting, he sends his regards to one and all, especially to Tom Ray.
Really? I'm flattered.
Really!!!!
Cool . . . Did he give you the finger as he was saying it?

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 14 Jul 2010, 13:57
by raylawpc
kikibalt wrote:That was a damn fly flying around in my bedroom, got my Red Ryder BB Rifle and shot it down with one shot....

Yeah, you won't be

when Connie gets homes from work and sees a B-B hole in her wall. Then you'll be

:(

:(
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 14 Jul 2010, 14:06
by kikibalt
raylawpc wrote:kikibalt wrote:That was a damn fly flying around in my bedroom, got my Red Ryder BB Rifle and shot it down with one shot....

Yeah, you won't be

when Connie gets homes from work and sees a B-B hole in her wall. Then you'll be

:(

:(
Yeah,Tom, I'm just full of sh*t this morning....

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 14 Jul 2010, 14:08
by kikibalt
raylawpc wrote:kikibalt wrote:raylawpc wrote:
Really? I'm flattered.
Really!!!!
Cool . . . Did he give you the finger as he was saying it?

No, he didn't give "US" the finger, he and Rosie really like you.
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 14 Jul 2010, 14:45
by raylawpc
kikibalt wrote:raylawpc wrote:kikibalt wrote:
Really!!!!
Cool . . . Did he give you the finger as he was saying it?

No, he didn't give "US" the finger, he and Rosie really like you.
Well, in all seriousness, that's very nice. I am very happy to have Bobby and Rosie as friends.
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 15 Jul 2010, 09:24
by kikibalt
Arum's big plans start with Mayweather-Pacquiao deadline
If there weren't enough obstacles to making boxing's dream fight, Manny Pacquiao vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr. Nov. 13 in Las Vegas, promoter Bob Arum has added another: a Friday night deadline for Mayweather to express interest in making the fight.
There are already questions about whether Mayweather will accept Pacquiao's slight concession to allow a blood sample to be taken from him 14 days before the fight -- he previously had said he'd give blood no closer than 24 days before the bout -- and there's rumblings the unbeaten "Pretty Boy" would rather not fight again until next year.
Mayweather's uncle-trainer, Roger Mayweather, has a pending Aug. 2 trial date in Las Vegas which could result in him being forced behind bars and indefinitely unavailable for the first fight of the century.
And Pacquiao's interest in participating is also a question mark, given Arum's current talks to stage an alternate Nov. 13 fight for the Filipino superstar against Tijuana's Antonio Margarito for the vacant WBC super-welterweight title in either Monterrey, Mexico, or Abu Dhabi -- which earlier this year hosted an Ultimate Fighting Championship card.
The foreign venues are required, of course, because Margarito doesn't have a license to fight in the U.S. after nearly taking plaster-loaded gloves into a January 2009 fight against Shane Mosley.
"A lot of money," Arum said of both site offers.
Now, Arum has thrown the Friday deadline into the Mayweather-Pacquiao fray, claiming, "We've got to get moving," as if announcing the fight later next month wouldn't still result in a live-gate sellout and massive pay-per-view buys for the anticipated showdown between the man considered the world's best pound-for-pound fighter (Pacquiao) and the unbeaten Mayweather.
Team Mayweather is keeping quiet. The man the fighter has designated to promote him, Richard Schaefer, is declining comment, and Arum said he's currently not even talking to Schaefer.
Be prepared for a second round of disappointment in these talks, after they earlier crashed in January over the drug-testing disagreement.
It won't stop Arum from making a profit, however, as he announced Wednesday to The Times and others that he's constructing plans for a Dec. 4 card at Cowboys Stadium in Dallas to be headlined by a middleweight bout between former champion Kelly Pavlik and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr., who impressed last month while defeating John Duddy.
"Chavez will go to the Phillippines to train with [Pacquiao trainer] Freddie [Roach], and then come back here to conclude his preparations," Arum said.
The Dallas card could also include the winner of the Sept. 18 Juan Manuel Lopez-Rafael Marquez fight in a featherweight battle, Arum said.
Of course, if Mayweather surprisingly triggers interest in Pacquiao, Arum said he will try to shift Margarito against Miguel Cotto in a rematch of their 2008 classic, or Cotto could face welterweight champion Andre Berto.
Big plans. And first, a big deadline.
-- Lance Pugmire
latimes.com
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 15 Jul 2010, 10:12
by Chuck1052
At first, I thought that Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. would be overmatched in a bout with Kelly Pavlik, but then it dawned on me that Freddie Roach has been very good when it comes to evaluating opponents of his fighters in recent years.
- Chuck Johnston
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 15 Jul 2010, 11:01
by bennie
Rendall Munroe's pending WBC title shot in Japan revives memories of the night Wayne McCullough made his way to Nagoya 15 years ago and punched out a split decision over Yasuei Yakushiji for the WBC bantamweight title. It was a brilliant performance from the Belfast man, who showed all his renowned workrate and stamina, but the split verdict, when Wayne looked to have won clearly, shows you how difficult it is to get a result in Japan. Even Ken Buchanan, the best away fighter Britain has ever seen, failed to win there in an attempt to regain the world lightweight title from Guts Ishimatu in 1975. Buchanan, who still weighs in at lightweight, will tell you a thumb in the eye in sparring ruined his chances but Kenny is good at building up a myth. He was simply on the other side of the mountain and, after a dazzling start, faded in the later rounds and conceded a unanimous 15-round decision. Liverpool's gallant Alan Rudkin also stuck it out for 15 rounds with the legendary buzzsaw that is Fighting Harada in a crack at the world bantamweight title in Tokyo in 1965.
As for Munroe, he travels to Tokyo in October in a bid for the WBC super-bantamweight title held by Toshiaki Nishioka, a man every bit as good as Yakushiji or Ishimatu, if not Harada, the greatest Japanese fighter of all time. In 16 years as a pro, Nishioka has conceded to just three men, two of whom beat him as a teenager in the 1990s and the other, Veeraphol Sahaprom of Thailand, who twice outscored him and twice drew with him in gruelling world title encounters at bantamweight, the last time in March 2004. Southpaw Nishioka, a quick, lean, charismatic banger, moved up to super-bantamweight and has won 13 on the spin, nine of them early. He climbed off the floor in the first round to spreadeagle Mexico's Jhonny Gonzalez in the third of a thrilling affair last year in Monterrey, proving his mettle away from home, and looked particularly sharp last time out in April when he broke up a previously unbeaten Filipino in five rounds in Tokyo in the fourth defence of his WBC belt. The rugged-looking Nishioka favours the big left smash and hasn't been the distance since he won the world title in 2008, although he also knows how to box. On the plus side for Munroe, the champion is seriously knocking on for the division at 33 and known as a bleeder.
Munroe, no spring chicken himself at 30, gets plenty of copy as a humble bin-man from Leicester and he deserves it for the methodical way he set about securing his mandatory shot, twice outscoring Spanish puncher Kiko Martinez in European title battles and outlasting Mexico's Victor Terrazas in nine rounds with body shots in a world title eliminator in April. Southpaw Munroe, big for the weight and always in superb shape, pressures his opponents and has a solid chin but he is not particularly quick, nor is he much of a banger, and you wonder if his strength and work ethic are enough to wrest him a world title away from home, although McCullough proved that they were. His only defeat came in a stab at the British featherweight title in Glasgow 2006. Munroe fought flat-out against Manchester's slick Andy Morris, who took the 12-round verdict but has never been the same, and then dropped down a weight and wrested the major European belt from that man Martinez, who had never lost before, amateur and pro, and had won the title by smashing Dublin's Bernard Dunne inside a round. Dublin is as far as Munroe has travelled as a pro, halting Italy's reluctant Fabrizio Trotta there in 2008, so Tokyo is going to seem a world away. "If you think London has got a lot of people, wait till you see this place", bemoaned Buchanan of Tokyo in his autobiography, The Tartan Legend. "I felt like I was on another planet, never mind in a foreign country."
Munroe will pick up a big payday in the lucrative Japanese boxing market and has an outside chance if the ageing Nishioka grows even older on the night, but the accurate left hands of the home man and underrated boxing skills make him a prodigious favourite, although in many respects our man is already a winner. Munroe guns for a proper world title against a proper champion in a proper backyard. This smacks of boxing as it used to be.
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 15 Jul 2010, 19:25
by kikibalt
Watching the 'The Hunchback of Notre Dame' on TCM and I remember a night in the mid-'50's when Connie and I were sitting at the Hollywood Legion Stadium watching some fights and Charles Laughton who plays the hunchback was sitting right behind us, him and I started betting a dollar on the fights, he got one corner and I got the other one and we rooted for what ever fighter was send to our corners.
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 15 Jul 2010, 19:27
by Expug
Frank, that reminds me of The Chicago Golden Gloves here.
Most of the time the fans there dont know who the fighters are.
They pick a corner color blue or red and play it all night.
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 15 Jul 2010, 19:33
by kikibalt
Expug wrote:Frank, that reminds me of The Chicago Golden Gloves here.
Most of the time the fans there dont know who the fighters are.
They pick a corner color blue or red and play it all night.
That's the way we used to do it back in the day at the Olympic too, Black vs White, you didn't know who your fighter was going to be until the first fighter enter the ring and Jimmy Lennon Sr would flip the disc and if that fighter got your color, well that was your boy...fun days!
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 16 Jul 2010, 10:59
by bennie
I used to love the amateur game before headguards and computer-scoring came along. Today, I don't even watch the Olympic stuff. Our own Audley Harrison proved that you can win a gold medal without being able to fight. Harrison just mastered the computer system with a few straight punches per round and then a lot of movement to avoid being pegged back. The fighters are told the score at the end of every round and know if they have won or lost at the final bell. It takes away any spontaneity. It is a ghastly state of affairs.