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Re: Betting thread
Posted: 21 Apr 2014, 05:49
by Bard of Boxrec
Wonder if there is any value in the Lebedev/Jones fight to be had. I'm back and forth, but I feel like Jones could prevail by stoppage again in another brutal fight. Best outright price for Lebedev is 4/7 and 9/5 for Jones but there are no stoppage odds yet.
Jones is an immovable object and Lebedev was being forced to use up way more energy in that fight than his opponent. Obviously the horrific swelling didn't help Lebedev's causes, but I think Jones can do the job again. If Jones stoppage is around 5/2 or better I might throw it into an accumulator.
Re: Betting thread
Posted: 22 Apr 2014, 08:01
by freddydoesdallas
Riddick Blowe wrote:Wonder if there is any value in the Lebedev/Jones fight to be had. I'm back and forth, but I feel like Jones could prevail by stoppage again in another brutal fight. Best outright price for Lebedev is 4/7 and 9/5 for Jones but there are no stoppage odds yet.
Jones is an immovable object and Lebedev was being forced to use up way more energy in that fight than his opponent. Obviously the horrific swelling didn't help Lebedev's causes, but I think Jones can do the job again. If Jones stoppage is around 5/2 or better I might throw it into an accumulator.
Jones is 9/5 to win? I've not kept up with Lebedev since their last fight but has he fought since? He took one hell of a pasting in that fight and that was the type of beating people can struggle to come back from. The only way i see him winning this one is if the ref jumps in early and controversially otherwise Jones wins all day.
Re: Betting thread
Posted: 22 Apr 2014, 08:25
by The Insider
As above Jones @ 9/5 is a very good bet.
Re: Betting thread
Posted: 22 Apr 2014, 09:08
by domjon
yep I like Jones too
Re: Betting thread
Posted: 22 Apr 2014, 09:31
by Bard of Boxrec
Yet more accumulators:
Jones
Collazo
Floyd PTS
15/1
Jones
Collazo
Floyd PTS
Geale
24/1
Jones
Collazo
Floyd PTS
Geale
Fonfara
218/1
Fonfara isn't great, but he's a solid puncher and if he can drag Adonis into the later rounds he might land something on the suspect chin.
Re: Betting thread
Posted: 25 Apr 2014, 04:12
by Bard of Boxrec
Riddick Blowe wrote:Wonder if there is any value in the Lebedev/Jones fight to be had. I'm back and forth, but I feel like Jones could prevail by stoppage again in another brutal fight. Best outright price for Lebedev is 4/7 and 9/5 for Jones but there are no stoppage odds yet.
Jones is an immovable object and Lebedev was being forced to use up way more energy in that fight than his opponent. Obviously the horrific swelling didn't help Lebedev's causes, but I think Jones can do the job again. If Jones stoppage is around 5/2 or better I might throw it into an accumulator.
Turns out you can get 7/2 on Jones stoppage...could be the bet .7/1 for Jones decision but is he really getting the nod in Russia?
Re: Betting thread
Posted: 25 Apr 2014, 12:21
by WelshJack
Wlad v Leapai under 10 rounds
Matthysse v Molina under 9 rounds
Lebedev
Thurman
Charlo
Browne
Figueroa
£55 returns £189
Re: Betting thread
Posted: 25 Apr 2014, 16:59
by mikiesb
Where's reggaereggaes tips ?? ! He's the man
Re: Betting thread
Posted: 26 Apr 2014, 06:15
by bennie
Unbeaten Aussie Lucas Browne takes on Canada's Eric Martel Bahoeli for the vacant Commonwealth heavyweight title in Sheffield tonight.
Browne is linked to promoter Ricky Hatton which explains the rather head-scratching location for two big, burly, tattooed fellows from across the globe, although "Big Daddy" Browne does most of his fighting at home where he secured a points win over the faded James Toney a year ago and a subsequent world ranking. He earned this particular crack with a five-round stoppage of Sheffield's previously unbeaten Richard Towers in Hull in November to take his impressive tally to 19 fights (17 early).
Bahoeli is a less impressive 10-3 (7) but brings a winning run of three and looks quite heavy handed, earning a nickname of "The Hammer", if not as heavy handed as Browne, nor as tough; Bahoeli has been stopped in two of his three defeats.
Nevertheless, it should be exciting while it lasts as both men get stuck in but you can see Browne taking charge and the title on a middle-round stoppage.
Also on the bill, Kazakhstan's big-hitting Zhanat Zhakiyanov challenges Karim Guerfi for the European bantamweight title.
Zhakiyanov has won his last eight fights by stoppage and poses a real threat to Guerfi, a 27-year-old Frenchman who pulled off a shock when lifting the EBU belt with a majority decision over Belgium's dangerous Stephane Jamoye in Begium last year.
It proves that Guerfi is nobody's patsy when it comes to handling a puncher but Zhakiyanov, like Browne, is linked to promoter Hatton and that makes him the 'house fighter' and gives him the edge, although he may have to go all the way to lift the belt.
Re: Betting thread
Posted: 26 Apr 2014, 06:42
by Bard of Boxrec
Wlad to win on points tonight. 7/1. You heard it here first.
Klit looked a disaster against Povetkin. His usual depressing cocktail of low jab output, virtually no right hands and a steady programme of snuggles, cuddles and panicking.
As bad as Leapai is, he seemed sturdy against Boytsov (I'm going to ignore the Johnson stoppage loss for now to suit my argument :) ) and had decent physical strength. I'm envisaging a possible scenario where Leapai can avoid flush shots and sleepwalk through to his decision loss.
One thing I noticed in the Povetkin fight through my haze of impending hypothermia as my heart rate got critically slow, was Alexzandr was capable of bustling his way inside for the hug, with Wlad's jab failing to keep his opponent on the outside. Leapai likes to work inside and he can get there. I think he can spend most of the fight tied up and being hugged on the inside, and during those instances he won't be getting hit with jabs. If he isn't weakened too much by Wlad leaning on him he can see out the fight.
How do you solve a problem like Wlad'mir? Aside from praying he retires, bet on PTS decision!
Re: Betting thread
Posted: 26 Apr 2014, 13:01
by ShadrachSimmo
I'm for sticking on 1st round ko 4 fold plus trebles for the main events plus Matthysse bout tonight just for a little interest.
Re: Betting thread
Posted: 26 Apr 2014, 14:35
by Boxing Prospect
Small bets on Leapai and Bahoeli. Might be pissing money away but...Bahoeli is a real banana skin.
Re: Betting thread
Posted: 26 Apr 2014, 14:40
by Boxing Prospect
Bermudez is 9/4 to beat Bopp, you'll struggle to find a better bet all weekend!
Re: Betting thread
Posted: 26 Apr 2014, 15:28
by Bard of Boxrec
Boxing Prospect wrote:Bermudez is 9/4 to beat Bopp, you'll struggle to find a better bet all weekend!
Don't follow the women...what's your thinking on this?
Re: Betting thread
Posted: 26 Apr 2014, 15:34
by MightyWarrior
Riddick Blowe wrote:Wlad to win on points tonight. 7/1. You heard it here first.
Klit looked a disaster against Povetkin. His usual depressing cocktail of low jab output, virtually no right hands and a steady programme of snuggles, cuddles and panicking.
As bad as Leapai is, he seemed sturdy against Boytsov (I'm going to ignore the Johnson stoppage loss for now to suit my argument :) ) and had decent physical strength. I'm envisaging a possible scenario where Leapai can avoid flush shots and sleepwalk through to his decision loss.
One thing I noticed in the Povetkin fight through my haze of impending hypothermia as my heart rate got critically slow, was Alexzandr was capable of bustling his way inside for the hug, with Wlad's jab failing to keep his opponent on the outside. Leapai likes to work inside and he can get there. I think he can spend most of the fight tied up and being hugged on the inside, and during those instances he won't be getting hit with jabs. If he isn't weakened too much by Wlad leaning on him he can see out the fight.
How do you solve a problem like Wlad'mir? Aside from praying he retires, bet on PTS decision!
Surely the big lump Wlad's booming right hand will be knocking 6 bells out of half his size Leapai by rounds 8 or 9, who'll definitely need to do some leaping tonight.
He'll need an iron chin to last 12, unless Wlad has slipped massively. ( though not been able to watch his recent boreathons too closely )
Re: Betting thread
Posted: 26 Apr 2014, 15:37
by Boxing Prospect
Riddick Blowe wrote:Boxing Prospect wrote:Bermudez is 9/4 to beat Bopp, you'll struggle to find a better bet all weekend!
Don't follow the women...what's your thinking on this?
The two fought when Bermudez was a novice, Bermudez gave Tuti an absolute headache. Since then Bermudez has grown, developed and become a better fighter, Tuti's not bad but she's much smaller.
Interestingly this fight is at 112-Bopp is going up a weight and Bermudez is going down a weight
Re: Betting thread
Posted: 26 Apr 2014, 15:40
by Bard of Boxrec
MightyWarrior wrote:
Surely the big lump Wlad's booming right hand will be knocking 6 bells out of half his size Leapai by rounds 8 or 9, who'll definitely need to do some leaping tonight.
He'll need an iron chin to last 12, unless Wlad has slipped massively. ( though not been able to watch his recent boreathons too closely )
You're right of course. What happened was for some reason I didn't remember Povetkin getting hurt much vs Wlad. To my horror I watched it again today and witnessed Povetkin get splattered across the ring in one round and barely survive.
I must have been so moribund/outraged at Wlad's holding at the time I totally erased all memory of Sasha getting pummelled, or chose not to acknowledge it, or something. I do hate Wlad with a burning passion, so there's that.
However that was an inactive, lesser version of Povetkin in there. Is that guy so much better than Leapai? Who knows. Probably. Anyway, it's just a small play in a couple of accumulators.
Re: Betting thread
Posted: 26 Apr 2014, 15:54
by MightyWarrior
Riddick Blowe wrote:
You're right of course. What happened was for some reason I didn't remember Povetkin getting hurt much vs Wlad. To my horror I watched it again today and witnessed Povetkin get splattered across the ring in one round and barely survive.
Ha that's pretty funny

To be honest I'd forgotten that fast start by Wlad too, the next 11 tedious rounds must have wiped the memory. He's boring as hell, but still hits hard enough to trouble most & turn fighters like David Haye into Mahatma Gandhi at the first bell.
The man from down under is a warrior by all accounts, think he was out on his feet against Walker (?) before landing a hail mary. First bell 10pm I guess
Re: Betting thread
Posted: 26 Apr 2014, 15:58
by Bard of Boxrec
MightyWarrior wrote:Riddick Blowe wrote:
You're right of course. What happened was for some reason I didn't remember Povetkin getting hurt much vs Wlad. To my horror I watched it again today and witnessed Povetkin get splattered across the ring in one round and barely survive.
Ha that's pretty funny

To be honest I'd forgotten that fast start by Wlad too, the next 11 tedious rounds must have wiped the memory. He's boring as hell, but still hits hard enough to trouble most & turn fighters like David Haye into Mahatma Gandhi at the first bell.
The man from down under is a warrior by all accounts, think he was out on his feet against Walker (?) before landing a hail mary. First bell 10pm I guess
Yeah I didn't mean in the first round I meant in one particular round, think it was the 7th or 9th.
Re: Betting thread
Posted: 28 Apr 2014, 09:23
by Bard of Boxrec
The bookies have employed me as their PR consultant to publicise another GALA EVENING OF FREE MONEY they are keen to advertise this Saturday.
As usual I am honoured to rise to the challenge and inform you that if you would like to partake in the collection of funds, I ARKS you, nay IMPLORE you to bet on Luis Collazo this weekend at a best price of 11/4 and shortening fast!
I am not alone in trumpeting this tip, and of course I have just posted about how Wlad would beat Leapai on points, so you may wish to bet on Amir! But when Collazo wins, don't say I didn't arks you to take advantage!

Re: Betting thread
Posted: 28 Apr 2014, 10:02
by The Insider
Riddick Blowe wrote:The bookies have employed me as their PR consultant to publicise another GALA EVENING OF FREE MONEY they are keen to advertise this Saturday.
As usual I am honoured to rise to the challenge and inform you that if you woulhim ike to partake in the collection of funds, I ARKS you, nay IMPLORE you to bet on Luis Collazo this weekend at a best price of 11/4 and shortening fast!
I am not alone in trumpeting this tip, and of course Ive just posted about how Wlad would beat Leapai on points, so you may wish to bet on Amir! But when Collazo wins, don't say I didn't arks you to take advantage!

Still undecided on this. Its a close fight, closer than the bookmakers have priced it. Collazo is a big lad. He's fought plenty at light middle and even had half a dozen at middle, so he will be huge on the night I'd say. Will Khan be able to keep him off and not get wore down and drawn into a fight, and of course not let anything near his chin. Its a very dangerous fight for Khan who will have speed and movement on his side and a pretty stationary plodding target to pot shot but he will need to keep that up for a full 12.rounds. Jury's still out for me. Will have another look the weekend.
Re: Betting thread
Posted: 28 Apr 2014, 10:11
by Bard of Boxrec
The Insider wrote:Riddick Blowe wrote:The bookies have employed me as their PR consultant to publicise another GALA EVENING OF FREE MONEY they are keen to advertise this Saturday.
As usual I am honoured to rise to the challenge and inform you that if you woulhim ike to partake in the collection of funds, I ARKS you, nay IMPLORE you to bet on Luis Collazo this weekend at a best price of 11/4 and shortening fast!
I am not alone in trumpeting this tip, and of course Ive just posted about how Wlad would beat Leapai on points, so you may wish to bet on Amir! But when Collazo wins, don't say I didn't arks you to take advantage!

Still undecided on this. Its a close fight, closer than the bookmakers have priced it. Collazo is a big lad. He's fought plenty at light middle and even had half a dozen at middle, so he will be huge on the night I'd say. Will Khan be able to keep him off and not get wore down and drawn into a fight, and of course not let anything near his chin. Its a very dangerous fight for Khan who will have speed and movement on his side and a pretty stationary plodding target to pot shot but he will need to keep that up for a full 12.rounds. Jury's still out for me. Will have another look the weekend.
I think it's a bit unfair on Collazo to call him a stationary target. He's got some subtle moves in there and is well capable of slipping and riding Amir's fast shots. He's also got some speed himself and a solid, if not big punch. He's a good all-round fighter and will be applying educated pressure and wearing down Khan gradually till he starts catching him clean and then will stop him in 8-9 rounds!
Also it's not like it's in Amir's power to not get dragged into a war. Collazo will force him into one by walking through everything Khan throws and give Amir no choice but to engage.
CHOO CHOO! GET ON THE COLLAZO EXPRESS INSIDER! WAR LUIS! 11/4! DO THE RIGHT THING!
Re: Betting thread
Posted: 29 Apr 2014, 05:10
by Bard of Boxrec
DO THE RIGHT THING! WAR COLLAZO!
THEY'RE CALLING IT
'THE WAR AT 11/4!'
Re: Betting thread
Posted: 29 Apr 2014, 06:05
by The Insider
Cuellar looks a decent bet @ 10/11. It's a good match-up between him and the tough Ramos but I think Jesus has the edge here and expected him to be a tad shorter in the market.
Re: Betting thread
Posted: 29 Apr 2014, 10:35
by Bard of Boxrec
COLLAZO STOPPAGE AT 9/2, HOT PRICE, CAUSING A FEVER, LIKE FLU!
COLLAZO ROUNDS 7-12 IS 11/1, GET ON IT SON, I'll HAVE A TON!