kikibalt wrote:Thanks Robby. Great job....
Ditto
Please post any stories that you write.
They will be appreciated here.
kikibalt wrote:Thanks Robby. Great job....
Criticism from anybody at Eastside Boxing is to be worn as a badge of honor.....Boxingnut wrote:to Rick and Frank,
I got a little criticism for the article from some of the members of Eastside so to have two genuine boxing guys say well done means a lot. Thank you.
kikibalt wrote:Criticism from anybody at Eastside Boxing is to be worn as a badge of honor.....Boxingnut wrote:to Rick and Frank,
I got a little criticism for the article from some of the members of Eastside so to have two genuine boxing guys say well done means a lot. Thank you.
kikibalt wrote:It seems like today's fighters all want to be grunters, Cloud, Johnson and Alexander grunted with every punch they threw during their respective fight last night, I don't know if I'm just a grouchy old man; but I find that grunting annoying as hell, so much that I turn the sound of....
Boxers of the east german school (if i remember correctly) not only grunt... they yell!!! Personally i prefer the ''tssst'' soundRick Farris wrote:kikibalt wrote:It seems like today's fighters all want to be grunters, Cloud, Johnson and Alexander grunted with every punch they threw during their respective fight last night, I don't know if I'm just a grouchy old man; but I find that grunting annoying as hell, so much that I turn the sound of....A few years ago, I was visiting a friend and the man had a son. The son showed me his new video game, which featured animated boxers. The boxers on the screen grunted just like the guys last night. Considering the way guys fight these days, they may have learned boxing lessons from computor games. Sound effects and all.
Remy . . . When I was a kid we had an amateur who trained with us at the Johnny Flores Gym. This guy used to grunt, growl and blow snot all over himself when he'd corner a guy. I remember the guy wasn't much of a hitter, but the sounds he'd make were something else. He sounded a lot more intimidating than he was. My only concern when boxing him was avoiding the crap he'd blow out of his nose.Panzerfaust wrote:Boxers of the east german school (if i remember correctly) not only grunt... they yell!!! Personally i prefer the ''tssst'' soundRick Farris wrote:kikibalt wrote:It seems like today's fighters all want to be grunters, Cloud, Johnson and Alexander grunted with every punch they threw during their respective fight last night, I don't know if I'm just a grouchy old man; but I find that grunting annoying as hell, so much that I turn the sound of....A few years ago, I was visiting a friend and the man had a son. The son showed me his new video game, which featured animated boxers. The boxers on the screen grunted just like the guys last night. Considering the way guys fight these days, they may have learned boxing lessons from computor games. Sound effects and all.
Then id take the yelling/roaring everyday of the weekRick Farris wrote:Remy . . . When I was a kid we had an amateur who trained with us at the Johnny Flores Gym. This guy used to grunt, growl and blow snot all over himself when he'd corner a guy. I remember the guy wasn't much of a hitter, but the sounds he'd make were something else. He sounded a lot more intimidating than he was. My only concern when boxing him was avoiding the crap he'd blow out of his nose.Panzerfaust wrote:Boxers of the east german school (if i remember correctly) not only grunt... they yell!!! Personally i prefer the ''tssst'' soundRick Farris wrote:A few years ago, I was visiting a friend and the man had a son. The son showed me his new video game, which featured animated boxers. The boxers on the screen grunted just like the guys last night. Considering the way guys fight these days, they may have learned boxing lessons from computor games. Sound effects and all.
Our own Alan Minter got a public warning in the '72 Olympics for grunting when he punched.Rick Farris wrote:Remy . . . When I was a kid we had an amateur who trained with us at the Johnny Flores Gym. This guy used to grunt, growl and blow snot all over himself when he'd corner a guy. I remember the guy wasn't much of a hitter, but the sounds he'd make were something else. He sounded a lot more intimidating than he was. My only concern when boxing him was avoiding the crap he'd blow out of his nose.Panzerfaust wrote:Boxers of the east german school (if i remember correctly) not only grunt... they yell!!! Personally i prefer the ''tssst'' soundRick Farris wrote:A few years ago, I was visiting a friend and the man had a son. The son showed me his new video game, which featured animated boxers. The boxers on the screen grunted just like the guys last night. Considering the way guys fight these days, they may have learned boxing lessons from computor games. Sound effects and all.
Rick, you find the Hawk and he will be inducted....Rick Farris wrote:Throwing Dirt . . .
Some of the greatest boxers in history were also some of the dirtiest.
Pro boxing isn't about trophies and medals, white uniforms or head gear. It's about money.
Money breeds the best and worst in people, especially so in professional boxing.
Dempsey would do whatever necessary to win, same with Roberto Duran, and L.A. headliner, Frankie Crawford was one of the dirtiest prizefighters of featherweight division during the late 60's-early 70's. I knew Frankie, boxed with him a few times as a pro. I also had a more personal friendship with him, I drove him to the gym a few times when he lost his drivers license in 1971. I never disrespected Crawford, and he never did me during our gym sessions.
However, matched with a hot Dwight "The Hawk" Hawkins, rated #2 featherweight by The Ring Magazine, Crawford knew he'd need anything available to stop the deadly punching Hawkins.
As a 16-year-old amateur, I took great pride in fighting out of the same stable as Dwight Hawkins, Ruben Navarro and heavyweight contender, Jerry Quarry. What young boxer of the era wouldn't feel that way? I would attend Dwight's training sessions which were held in the upstairs ball room of the Alexandria Hotel. The ancient hotel was where George Parnassus had his office, and where his headliners would train, where the Greek boxing promoter could use them to publicize his up-coming events at the Forum.
On the weekend before the fight, all the boxers featured on the card, including Hawkins, Crawford, Jose Napoles, Richie Sue, Des Rea and Arturo Lomeli trained in public workouts held at the Alexandria.
Former world champ, Lauro Salas, would collect money at the door, 50 cents for spectators wishing to watch the fighters workout.
Hawkins is sitting on a fold up chair, beside the ring, wrapping his hands. I'm seated on the edge of the ring, across from him.
Hawkins begins to voice concerns over Crawford's blatant illegal tactics. "If he tries anything with me, he'll regret it!", Hawkins promised. The Hawk wasn't a talker, he meant business.
Sure enough, a few days later, the bell rings for round one. Crawford throws a low hook that lands below Hawkins belt. Dwight falls back to the canvas, gets to a knee and I knew what was about to follow. Dwight Hawkins took Crawford apart from that moment on. He beat Frankie with vicious combinations to the body and head. Frankie wasn't in with Mando Ramos this time, he was in with a guy who ripped an opponents body apart.
Crawford went thru the ropes in the eighth round. Was counted out before he could recover.
Dwight Hawkins beat the hell out of Frankie Crawford. Mando Ramos couldn't do it like that, neither could Saldivar, Jofre or Saijyo.
Dwight Hawkins is a true Classic American West Coast Boxer. He KOed the great Jose Beccera when he was just 17. Needs CBHOF induction this year. Frank, I'll find him for you and Don, if you're still interested.
-Rick Farris
Boss Man . . .kikibalt wrote:Eddie "Bossman" Jones has passed away, he die Saturday Aug. 7,2010, of natural causes
Eddie Jones
division light heavyweight
alias Bossman
nationality United States
residence Oakland, California, United States
won 29 (KO 12) + lost 16 (KO 3) + drawn 3 = 48
rounds boxed 407 KO% 25
1976-08-24 193 Fonomanu Young Sekona 205 19-1-0
Honolulu, Hawaii, United States L PTS 10 10
1976-07-10 Jesse Burnett 13-3-1
Sports Arena, San Diego, California, United States L PTS 10 10
1976-02-26 193 Bruce Scott 185 9-31-1
Reno, Nevada, United States W TKO 8 8
Scott down three times in the 8th.
1974-02-08 178½ Rudiger Schmidtke 176¼ 30-5-3
Frankfurt, Hessen, Germany D PTS 10 10
1973-12-06 176 Tom Bogs 173 71-5-1
K.B. Hallen, Copenhagen, Denmark L PTS 10 10
1973-08-28 Tom Bethea 14-13-1
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 10 10
1973-04-19 Chuck Hamilton 16-15-0
Portland, Oregon, United States W KO 4
1973-03-01 176 Andy Kendall 175 41-8-8
Portland, Oregon, United States W PTS 10 10
1972-12-14 Andy Kendall 40-8-7
Portland, Oregon, United States D PTS 10 10
Kendall was knocked down in the 7th round.
1972-09-14 Len Hutchins 12-1-1
Kalamazoo, Michigan, United States L PTS 10 10
1972-08-15 Joe Burns 23-6-1
New Orleans, Louisiana, United States L PTS 10 10
1972-06-27 Joe Gholston 9-7-1
Convention Center, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 6 6
1972-05-06 Victor Emilio Galindez 12-6-3
Estadio Luna Park, Buenos Aires, Distrito Federal, Argentina L PTS 10 10
1972-04-15 Avenamar Peralta 62-7-4
Mar del Plata, Buenos Aires, Argentina L PTS 10 10
1972-03-28 181 Karl Zurheide 177 31-12-2
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 10 10
1972-03-08 190 Carl Moore 185 19-26-6
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W KO 5 10
1972-01-13 180 Ruben Figueroa 187 5-5-0
Reno, Nevada, United States W KO 6 10
1971-08-21 Vicente Rondon 32-5-1
Nuevo Circo, Caracas, Venezuela L UD 15 15
~ WBA World light heavyweight title ~
1971-07-07 175½ Chuck Hamilton 171½ 15-10-0
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 10 10
1971-05-20 180 Terry Lee 176 11-9-3
Selland Arena, Fresno, California, United States W TKO 8 10
~ time: 2:35 | referee: Al Martinez ~
1970-10-26 Willis Earls 12-11-2
City Auditorium, Atlanta, Georgia, United States W KO 7
1970-07-11 Avenamar Peralta 54-3-4
Estadio Luna Park, Buenos Aires, Distrito Federal, Argentina W PTS 10 10
1970-06-30 170 Willis Earls 175 11-10-1
Houston, Texas, United States D PTS 10 10
1970-03-25 Johnny Griffin 12-2-0
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 10 10
1970-02-11 Benny Lee Bowser 22-15-3
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 10 10
1969-10-01 174 Jimmy Dupree 173 26-5-2
Armory, Jersey City, New Jersey, United States L TKO 10 10
~ referee: Barney Felix ~
1969-07-16 Eddie Parotte 6-8-2
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 10 10
1969-05-19 172 Roger Rouse 171½ 33-9-4
Convention Hall, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W RTD 8 10
1969-04-16 173 Eddie Parotte 173½ 6-7-2
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W UD 10 10
1969-02-12 175 Andy Kendall 23-4-5
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States L SD 10 10
1968-09-25 173 Chuck Leslie 175 15-16-5
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W SD 12 12
1968-05-15 172 Levan Roundtree 12-5-0
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 10 10
1968-04-10 176 Frank Niblett 171¼ 15-29-11
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 10 10
1967-10-16 173 Henry Hank 163 58-24-4
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 10 10
1967-09-11 Jimmy Dupree 19-3-1
New Orleans, Louisiana, United States W PTS 10 10
1967-08-07 174½ Harold Johnson 176¼ 73-10-0
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States L PTS 10 10
1967-06-12 175 Dick Gosha 171 6-4-0
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W KO 2
~ time: 2:27 ~
1967-05-15 170½ Allen Thomas 170½ 23-5-2
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W TKO 4 10
~ time: 2:20 | referee: Davey Pearl ~
1967-02-13 172½ Allen Thomas 167 22-5-2
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States L UD 10 10
1967-01-03 Jesse Bolen 2-3-0
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W KO 8 10
1966-11-28 172½ Chuck Leslie 175 12-11-2
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 10 10
1966-06-30 173 Billy Stephan 175 20-11-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W TKO 8 12
~ time: 3:00 | referee: Dick Young ~
California State Light Heavyweight Title Eliminator
Stephan was knocked down at the end of the 8th round, and the bout was stopped at the end of the rounds. Los Angeles Times
1966-05-31 186 Poasi Tuiono 189 4-4-0
Auditorium, Oakland, California, United States L TKO 3 4
~ time: 1:12 ~
1966-04-07 173 Chuck Leslie 175 11-9-2
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L UD 10 10
1965-07-15 Robie Harris 0-3-1
Sacramento, California, United States W TKO 4
1965-06-26 187 Ray Junior Ellis
Auditorium, Oakland, California, United States L KO 1 4
~ time: 2:17 ~
1965-06-01 Robie Harris 0-2-1
Memorial Auditorium, Sacramento, California, United States W PTS 4 4
1965-02-18 186 Joe Byron 176 11-13-2
Auditorium, Richmond, California, United States L PTS 4 4
Who didn't this guy fight? Eddie went in with some real animals and tamed a few.kikibalt wrote:Eddie "Bossman" Jones has passed away, he die Saturday Aug. 7,2010, of natural causes
Eddie Jones
division light heavyweight
alias Bossman
nationality United States
residence Oakland, California, United States
won 29 (KO 12) + lost 16 (KO 3) + drawn 3 = 48
rounds boxed 407 KO% 25
1976-08-24 193 Fonomanu Young Sekona 205 19-1-0
Honolulu, Hawaii, United States L PTS 10 10
1976-07-10 Jesse Burnett 13-3-1
Sports Arena, San Diego, California, United States L PTS 10 10
1976-02-26 193 Bruce Scott 185 9-31-1
Reno, Nevada, United States W TKO 8 8
Scott down three times in the 8th.
1974-02-08 178½ Rudiger Schmidtke 176¼ 30-5-3
Frankfurt, Hessen, Germany D PTS 10 10
1973-12-06 176 Tom Bogs 173 71-5-1
K.B. Hallen, Copenhagen, Denmark L PTS 10 10
1973-08-28 Tom Bethea 14-13-1
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 10 10
1973-04-19 Chuck Hamilton 16-15-0
Portland, Oregon, United States W KO 4
1973-03-01 176 Andy Kendall 175 41-8-8
Portland, Oregon, United States W PTS 10 10
1972-12-14 Andy Kendall 40-8-7
Portland, Oregon, United States D PTS 10 10
Kendall was knocked down in the 7th round.
1972-09-14 Len Hutchins 12-1-1
Kalamazoo, Michigan, United States L PTS 10 10
1972-08-15 Joe Burns 23-6-1
New Orleans, Louisiana, United States L PTS 10 10
1972-06-27 Joe Gholston 9-7-1
Convention Center, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 6 6
1972-05-06 Victor Emilio Galindez 12-6-3
Estadio Luna Park, Buenos Aires, Distrito Federal, Argentina L PTS 10 10
1972-04-15 Avenamar Peralta 62-7-4
Mar del Plata, Buenos Aires, Argentina L PTS 10 10
1972-03-28 181 Karl Zurheide 177 31-12-2
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 10 10
1972-03-08 190 Carl Moore 185 19-26-6
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W KO 5 10
1972-01-13 180 Ruben Figueroa 187 5-5-0
Reno, Nevada, United States W KO 6 10
1971-08-21 Vicente Rondon 32-5-1
Nuevo Circo, Caracas, Venezuela L UD 15 15
~ WBA World light heavyweight title ~
1971-07-07 175½ Chuck Hamilton 171½ 15-10-0
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 10 10
1971-05-20 180 Terry Lee 176 11-9-3
Selland Arena, Fresno, California, United States W TKO 8 10
~ time: 2:35 | referee: Al Martinez ~
1970-10-26 Willis Earls 12-11-2
City Auditorium, Atlanta, Georgia, United States W KO 7
1970-07-11 Avenamar Peralta 54-3-4
Estadio Luna Park, Buenos Aires, Distrito Federal, Argentina W PTS 10 10
1970-06-30 170 Willis Earls 175 11-10-1
Houston, Texas, United States D PTS 10 10
1970-03-25 Johnny Griffin 12-2-0
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 10 10
1970-02-11 Benny Lee Bowser 22-15-3
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 10 10
1969-10-01 174 Jimmy Dupree 173 26-5-2
Armory, Jersey City, New Jersey, United States L TKO 10 10
~ referee: Barney Felix ~
1969-07-16 Eddie Parotte 6-8-2
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 10 10
1969-05-19 172 Roger Rouse 171½ 33-9-4
Convention Hall, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W RTD 8 10
1969-04-16 173 Eddie Parotte 173½ 6-7-2
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W UD 10 10
1969-02-12 175 Andy Kendall 23-4-5
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States L SD 10 10
1968-09-25 173 Chuck Leslie 175 15-16-5
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W SD 12 12
1968-05-15 172 Levan Roundtree 12-5-0
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 10 10
1968-04-10 176 Frank Niblett 171¼ 15-29-11
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 10 10
1967-10-16 173 Henry Hank 163 58-24-4
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 10 10
1967-09-11 Jimmy Dupree 19-3-1
New Orleans, Louisiana, United States W PTS 10 10
1967-08-07 174½ Harold Johnson 176¼ 73-10-0
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States L PTS 10 10
1967-06-12 175 Dick Gosha 171 6-4-0
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W KO 2
~ time: 2:27 ~
1967-05-15 170½ Allen Thomas 170½ 23-5-2
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W TKO 4 10
~ time: 2:20 | referee: Davey Pearl ~
1967-02-13 172½ Allen Thomas 167 22-5-2
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States L UD 10 10
1967-01-03 Jesse Bolen 2-3-0
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W KO 8 10
1966-11-28 172½ Chuck Leslie 175 12-11-2
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 10 10
1966-06-30 173 Billy Stephan 175 20-11-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W TKO 8 12
~ time: 3:00 | referee: Dick Young ~
California State Light Heavyweight Title Eliminator
Stephan was knocked down at the end of the 8th round, and the bout was stopped at the end of the rounds. Los Angeles Times
1966-05-31 186 Poasi Tuiono 189 4-4-0
Auditorium, Oakland, California, United States L TKO 3 4
~ time: 1:12 ~
1966-04-07 173 Chuck Leslie 175 11-9-2
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L UD 10 10
1965-07-15 Robie Harris 0-3-1
Sacramento, California, United States W TKO 4
1965-06-26 187 Ray Junior Ellis
Auditorium, Oakland, California, United States L KO 1 4
~ time: 2:17 ~
1965-06-01 Robie Harris 0-2-1
Memorial Auditorium, Sacramento, California, United States W PTS 4 4
1965-02-18 186 Joe Byron 176 11-13-2
Auditorium, Richmond, California, United States L PTS 4 4
bennie wrote:A name familiar to all fight fans of a mature disposition, Eddie "Bossman" Jones, passed away on Saturday of natural causes.
Jones, a rugged, aggressive light-heavyweight from California, took on the best in his division for over a decade, and I mean the best. It is hard to depict how deep the light-heavyweight ranks were before other weights decimated the lines in recent years, but a quick glance at Eddie’s record does the job. Jones turned pro in 1965, had his nose spread in early fights against Harold Johnson, Jimmy Dupree and Henry Hank, tightened up his defence and worked his way to a shot at the WBA title held by Venezeula’s Vicente Rondon, whom he took the full 15 rounds in Caracas in 1971, before establishing himself as one of the toughest, cutest men around against the likes of Victor Galindez, Jesse Burnett, Len Hutchins, Tom Bethea, Andy Kendall, Rudiger Schmidtke and Tom Bogs, the latter two in Europe. Eddie was forced on the road because he couldn’t get a fight in California. Ex-pro Rick Farris describes him as "too good for his own good - it's as if Eddie had no home."
As his career relented in the mid-1970s, his obvious assets were preyed upon by the leading heavyweights of the day, all basking in a golden era, as Jerry Quarry, Ken Norton and George Foreman used him extensively in the gym. Eddie is perhaps best known as one of Muhammad Ali’s sparmates for the "Rumble in the Jungle" in Zaire in 1974, along with a young Larry Holmes and the much-avoided Roy Williams. When they say Ali enjoyed the greatest sparring imaginable for Foreman, they were not kidding. Jones played his part in an unforgettable win for Ali, and an unforgettable night for boxing.