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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 11 Aug 2010, 12:40
by kikibalt
Great picture, Bennie...Thanks for posting it.... :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 11 Aug 2010, 12:55
by Rick Farris
bennie wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:
THEHAMMER321 wrote: Rick I have always been intrigued by the 1970s Heavyweights except believe it or not Ali, and in my opinion Kenny should have gotten the decision in all 3 of there fights, Jerry Quarry on the other hand seemed to lose fights he should win Chavalo and Ellis and win fights he should lose Mac Foster, Lyle and Shavers he was just missing some intangible that fighters like Marciano had in abundance, skill wise Jerry was better well rounded than Marciano but Marciano used his sheer willpower to overcome the more talented fighters, As for the russian invasion Heavys can you say boring. :TU:
Jerry Quarry . . .

Paul, one thing we know about Jerry Quarry is that he was a head case. He was very moody, self centered, prejudiced and insecure at times. He had tremendous ability, and a mean quality necessary for a fighter. When Jerry was right, mentally and physically, he was like a well oiled machine. He was calm and calculated, he'd casually lead an opponent into a disaster. When Jerry had an opponent hurt, few survived. Sadly, we never knew which Jerry was going to show up. I first witnessed Jerry's nature in the first fight with Scrap Iron Johnson. Jerry was still undefeated, but he'd started to look like a dog in close fights with Tony Doyle and Tony Alongi. It was all about attitude with Jerry. Suddenly, as the critics began to pick away at Jerry Quarry, he does something that nobody did before or after, and that is literally flatten Scrap Iron in just two rounds. Jerry was backed into a corner and unleashed a combo that sent Johnson across the ring where he collapsed to the canvas. Ten and out! You pointed out two of Jerry's most disappointing bouts, Chuvalo & Ellis. Had he defeated Ellis, he'd have become the WBA World Heavyweight Champion at age 23. Jimmy Ellis didn't beat Jerry in Oakland that afternoon, Jerry beat himself.
Would you say that Jerry was a counterpuncher at his best?

I believe Jerry was a natural counter-puncher, but he had to be at his best, timing wise, to make it work for him. There were times when he needed to mix it up, and would rely on counter punching. This is how he'd lose to a Jimmy Ellis, etc. Great counter puncher, but he had to be ready to make it work for him.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 11 Aug 2010, 14:28
by Rick Farris
bennie wrote:Image

A few of the ol' boys in Cardiff recently. Humberto Gonzalez is squatting in front; Alan Rudkin is in the cap; the guy in the suit who looks like Carbajal is in fact a local wannabe.

Bennie, I remember Rudkin very well from the 60's.
At the time, shortly after the Beatles hit it big, I'd read stories in boxing magazines, telling of Rudkin growing up in Liverpool.
With family in England, I was interested in Rudkin but only saw him fight once.
That was when he challenged the great Ruben Olivares for the bantam title here in L.A.
I recall watching him train for the title fight, his "LONSDALE" training shorts.
Of course, I knew that Rudkin, like most of the era, was in deep with Olivares.
I remember the Rudkin years well, and Scotland's Wee Walter McGowan was raising a bit of hell at flyweight, around the same time.
Chiquita Gonzalez put on same great wars at the Forum here in L.A.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 11 Aug 2010, 15:26
by Rick Farris
(Copied directly from Dave Anderson's, "In The Corner")

Trainer Bill Slayton remembers Ken Norton . . .

"When Kenny started training with me he didn't like the Main Street Gym because there was mainly Mexican fighters who didn't know who Ken Norton was. We had to go over to the Hoover Street Gym, which had mostly black fighters. At first, no matter what I said, he doubted it. But I had patience and learned how to reverse things on him. Make it feel it was his idea."

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 11 Aug 2010, 15:37
by kikibalt
Image

(L_TO_R) me, Nate Dominguez, Mike Adame, John Martinez and Tony Baltazar
Circa 1975

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 11 Aug 2010, 15:55
by Rick Farris
(Copied from Dave Anderson's, "In The Corner")


Trainer Bill Slayton on Ken Norton & Eddie "Boss Man" Jones . . .

"Some fighters are very cocky outwardly, but in the back of their mind they feel insecure. Kenny was the kind of guy who needed praise more than anything else. He used to get his butt kicked sparring. The only guy he beat up sparring was Eddie Jones, once a top rated light-heavy. Eddie sparred with Ali, he sparred with all of them, but Kenny always looked good against him. So the last guy I always put in there to spar with Kenny was Eddie Jones. That way Kenny would always come out of his workout feeling good."

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 11 Aug 2010, 16:58
by Rick Farris
More on Ken Norton & Eddie Jones, from the late Bill Slayton . . .

Don Fraser would promote Ali vs. Norton-2, at the Forum in Los Angeles. According to Bill Slayton, Norton's trainer:
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"After beating Ali in San Diego, Norton was floating on cloud nine but he had Eddie Jones working with him as a sparring partner. Eddie had just become a Black Muslim, and Eddie was supposedly telling Ali everything that was going on. Ken heard rumors that Eddie was passing things on. That Ken was not training, with lots of women, etc. With all the rumors, Ken didn't believe them until after the fight. Kenny once told me that when they announced Ali the winner of a twelve-round split decision, Eddie jumped higher than anybody. The next thing you know, Eddie was working in Ali's camp. Kenny eventually hired Eddie back as a sparring partner becasue Ken liked Eddie. But when Kenny boxed with him, he would be beating the hell out of Jones and saying, "You told Ali all those things about me!"


(Quote from Dave Anderson's "In The Corner")

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 11 Aug 2010, 17:04
by Rick Farris
Bennie . . .

Could you give us a report on Alan Rudkin?
What has he done since boxing?

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 11 Aug 2010, 17:58
by Rick Farris
The Quarry-Chuvalo spectacle . . .

This is one fight that iron-chinned and strong willed George Chuvalo was about to lose by KO.
But his opponent was Jerry Quarry, so the Luck of the Irish somehow played into the favor of the Canadian.
Jerry was boxing smart, on what I believed a clear cut win, and likely execution of a legend from the 60's.

But Jerry slipped, which accompanied a punch, and the slip ruled a knockdown.
Now there is a time for a fighter to take a knee and give himself a moment to recuperate, but not after a slip.
You gotta get to your feet to show you were not hurt, sometimes it'll prevent losing a point.
What did Jerry do? He decided to take a little breather, which makes a guy look hurt as he sucks in air and rests.
He'd just rise by the count of 8, and rest another few seconds as the ref wipes the gloves, looks in his eyes, etc.
Why did Jerry need a rest? He had control, and had to take it back by dominating a guy he'd been beating, he needed to jump up from the canvas and back up Chuvalo. What he did was not hear the ref's count. Before Jerry rose from his knee, the ref had counted, "TEN. You're out!"
I'm sorry, but I have to agree with Mel Epstein on this one, "Dumb bastid!"
What I remember clearer than the match, was Johnny Flores stories about what went on that night at the Garden.

Johnny would never again work the corner of Jerry Quarry. Flores would retain his half of 1/3 interest in all future Quarry bouts thru June of 1972. This angered Jerry to be accountable to his contract with Johnny Flores for two more years.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 11 Aug 2010, 18:21
by Rick Farris
His best days behind him, Jerry Quarry schools Earnie Shavers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEpVPBH12Ik

We've all seen it. But it's one I continue to enjoy on occasion.
I remember the night it took place, I watched it with a friend on Closed-Circuit TV at the Anaheim Convention Center.
I recall Jerry's father, Jack, escorting some old broad with flame red hair. I spotted Pa Quarry taking bows just inside the front gate, after his son had blasted out Shavers in one round. I knew at the time Jerry and his father were not on speaking terms.
Jack spotted me and we shook hands, I congratulated him on his son's win.
He introduced his lady friend to us, they were both drunk. Her red hair seemed to have shed all over his polyester leisure suit.
But Jack had good reason to be proud of his son. Jerry was a heavy under dog, despite the Lyle and Foster wins.
This is one of the versions I choose to remember of Jerry's career, and of course, the KO of Scrap Iron Johnson.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 11 Aug 2010, 19:01
by Rick Farris
Long Beach Auditorium
December 4, 1971

Ray White W Terry Lee SD 12 12
Danny Kimberling D Bobby Stripling PTS 6 6
Rick Farris W Edel Borunda PTS 4 4
Cesar Chuy Chavez W Carmelo Enriquez KO 3 4
David Love W Manuel Caballero KO 3
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The Windmill . . .

Ray "Windmill" White could really fight. He was awkward, a nightmare who would likely embarass an opponent.
He definitly made a few mad. Ray had a following, fans who enjoyed his antics. Count me as one of them.
Ray White was a good man. Trained amateurs in Ventura County. A carpenter, and subject of a LIFE Magazine article.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 11 Aug 2010, 19:10
by kikibalt
Rick Farris wrote:Long Beach Auditorium
December 4, 1971

Ray White W Terry Lee SD 12 12
Danny Kimberling D Bobby Stripling PTS 6 6
Rick Farris W Edel Borunda PTS 4 4
Cesar Chuy Chavez W Carmelo Enriquez KO 3 4
David Love W Manuel Caballero KO 3
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The Windmill . . .

Ray "Windmill" White could really fight. He was awkward, a nightmare who would likely embarass an opponent.
He definitly made a few mad. Ray had a following, fans who enjoyed his antics. Count me as one of them.
Ray White was a good man. Trained amateurs in Ventura County. A carpenter, and subject of a LIFE Magazine article.
CBHOF? maybe....

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 11 Aug 2010, 19:40
by Rick Farris
The Fascination of Main Street . . .


My destination on Main Street was located right in the heart of skid row.
I grew up in Burbank, a fairly middle-class neighborhood in the San Fernando Valley.
There was no skid row in Burbank. There was little desperation that I was aware of.
Burbank was a working man's town, home to many film industry personnel.
As a kid, I had a wild streak and when I turned thirteen, was already known by the Juvenile Authority.
I wasn't into drugs, or anything too deep, but I had too much energy.
Boxing burned up that energy. The best thing I ever did in my life, in many ways.
Boxing also introduced me to the other side of life. It took me to a place that mesmerized me, Skid Row Downtown L.A.
Aside from the old winos who would be curled up on the sidewalk, often tucked away behind a box, it was the buildings.
These buildings were ancient burlesque houses, ones that were popular decades earlier in the century.
They were pawn shops, knife shops, a downstairs basement pool hall about a block south of the gym.
There were little deals going on, out of sight, yet in plain sight. There were freaks, trans-sexuals, what a cast of players.
Very intriquing to me. I'd walk the street alone, or with my brother or cousin.
The gym was located upstairs in what was once a theatre located above a larger, ground floor burlesque house.
The theatre below was closed, and they knocked out the front wall on Main Street and back wall by the parking lot.
They paved the floor and the theatre was now a tunnel that led thru the building to the parking lot behind.
This was done years before, and you could still see the lighting fixtures attached to the ceiling above what was once the stage.
Below the gym, on the south side of the tunnel was a pawn shop and the ultimate dive bar, on the north side a barber college and luggage shop.

I'd have my gym bag slung over my shoulder, checking things out. Walk to the bus stop on Spring Street and go home.
I gotta education on Main Street.


-Rick Farris

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 11 Aug 2010, 19:56
by Rick Farris
kikibalt wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:Long Beach Auditorium
December 4, 1971

Ray White W Terry Lee SD 12 12
Danny Kimberling D Bobby Stripling PTS 6 6
Rick Farris W Edel Borunda PTS 4 4
Cesar Chuy Chavez W Carmelo Enriquez KO 3 4
David Love W Manuel Caballero KO 3
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The Windmill . . .

Ray "Windmill" White could really fight. He was awkward, a nightmare who would likely embarass an opponent.
He definitly made a few mad. Ray had a following, fans who enjoyed his antics. Count me as one of them.
Ray White was a good man. Trained amateurs in Ventura County. A carpenter, and subject of a LIFE Magazine article.
CBHOF? maybe....

Frank, I was going to ask you if he had been inducted, or check my own list.
Yeah, he reached top ten ranking during the years of Bob Foster.
He upset some solid fighters. And a true charactor of the era. He is unforgetable, too.
Yeah, he should be inducted. Last I knew he was in Ventura or Santa Paula.
Also, Ray fought a lot for Don Fraser, at the Santa Monica Civic, Long Beach and Woodland Hills. I know that because I also fought those nights.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 11 Aug 2010, 20:05
by Rick Farris
Ray "Windmill" White, turned 72 this month.
His pro career spanned 16 years, 1958-74.
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Ray White

birth date 1938-08-05
light heavyweight
height 6′ 4″ / 193cm
alias Windmill
residence Oak View, California, United States
won 41 (KO 11) + lost 14 (KO 2) + drawn 5 = 60
rounds boxed 495 KO% 18.33


1974-06-11 173 Randy Miller 169
Coliseum, Houston, Texas, United States W TKO 9 10
1974-04-29 174 Eddie Bailey 179 10-8-4
Spectrum, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States W PTS 10 10
1974-03-15 172½ Jesse Burnett 176 7-0-1
Coliseum, San Diego, California, United States L KO 8
1974-02-18 Eddie Bailey 10-8-3
Spectrum, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States D PTS 8 8
1974-01-22 Faustino Perez 0-6-0
Coliseum, El Paso, Texas, United States W TKO 7 10
1973-12-10 Charles Atlas 3-3-0
Monroe, Louisiana, United States W PTS 10 10
1973-11-10 Bobby Rascon 41-24-1
Community Center, Tucson, Arizona, United States W PTS 10 10
2 judges scored draw one for White?

1973-08-17 178 Hildo Silva 174 22-5-3
Coliseum, San Diego, California, United States D PTS 8 8
1973-07-03 179¼ Koroseta Kid 193 10-3-0
Civic Auditorium, Honolulu, Hawaii, United States W PTS 10 10
1973-06-01 Bobby Rascon 40-23-1
Community Center, Tucson, Arizona, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Joe Vozdik ~

1973-03-10 177½ Chuck Hamilton 180 16-14-0
Santa Rosa, California, United States W TKO 8 10
1973-02-20 Lino Rendon 19-18-2
Civic Auditorium, Bakersfield, California, United States W PTS 10 10
Date uncertain

1973-01-29 173½ Mike Quarry 175 36-1-1
Convention Center, Anaheim, California, United States L UD 12 12
~ referee: Chuck Hassett | judge: Chuck Hassett | judge: Eddie Fierro | judge: John Thomas ~
~ USA California State light heavyweight title ~

1972-12-18 176 Charley Austin 173 39-42-7
Riverside Ballroom, Phoenix, Arizona, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Bud Yellen ~

1972-12-12 178 Bob Hazelton 198 3-7-0
San Diego, California, United States W TKO 8 10
1972-11-20 175 Orlando de la Fuentes 173 17-6-1
Valley Music Theatre, Woodland Hills, California, United States W UD 12 12
1972-11-06 Frank Niblett 16-42-11
Riverside Ballroom, Phoenix, Arizona, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Jim Coe ~

1972-10-02 175 Rafael Gutierrez 175 43-7-4
Valley Music Theatre, Woodland Hills, California, United States D PTS 12 12
~ referee: Dick Young 6-6 | 5-5 | 8-3 ~
~ USA California State light heavyweight title ~

1972-04-26 Johnny Griffin 19-7-0
Cleveland, Ohio, United States L PTS 10 10
1972-04-08 Hill Chambers 7-16-1
Community Center, Tucson, Arizona, United States W UD 10 10
1972-02-26 174 Terry Lee 175 12-11-3
Auditorium, Long Beach, California, United States W SD 12 12
~ referee: Rudy Jordan 6-5 | judge: Bob Dossey 6-5 | judge: Chuck Hassett 4-5 ~
~ USA California State light heavyweight title ~

1971-12-04 175 Terry Lee 11-10-3
Auditorium, Long Beach, California, United States W SD 12 12
~ referee: John Thomas 6-5 | judge: Larry Rozadilla 6-5 | judge: Pat Murphy 3-8 ~
~ USA California State light heavyweight title ~
Lee was knocked down in the 6th round.

1971-11-19 Hill Chambers 4-14-1
Auditorium, Long Beach, California, United States W PTS 10 10
1971-09-24 174½ Amado Vasquez 169 13-8-2
Convention Center, Anaheim, California, United States W TKO 10 12
~ USA California State light heavyweight title ~
Vasquez was stopped on a cut left eye.

1971-07-03 175 Jimmy Dupree 175 31-6-2
Civic Auditorium, Santa Monica, California, United States L UD 12 12
~ referee: John Thomas 5-6 | judge: Larry Rozadilla 5-7 | judge: Chuck Hassett 5-7 ~
~ NABF light heavyweight title ~
White was knocked down in the 4th round.

1971-06-19 Lonnie Bennett 175 3-1-0
Ventura, California, United States L SD 10 10
1971-06-05 177 Steve Grant 192 13-9-1
Civic Auditorium, Santa Monica, California, United States W PTS 10 10
1971-05-22 173½ Roger Rouse 172 36-14-5
Civic Auditorium, Santa Monica, California, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Lee Grossman 10-0 | judge: Rudy Jordan 7-3 | judge: Chuck Hassett 8-1 ~

1971-04-17 173¼ Chuck Hamilton 171 15-9-0
Valley Music Theatre, Woodland Hills, California, United States W UD 12 12
~ referee: Lee Grossman 8-2 | judge: Eddie Fierro 8-1 | judge: Abe Cohen 10-0 ~
~ USA California State light heavyweight title ~

1971-03-20 175 Chuck Hamilton 171 15-8-0
Valley Music Theatre, Woodland Hills, California, United States W TKO 2 12
~ time: 0:28 | referee: George Latka ~
~ USA California State light heavyweight title ~
Hamilton was stopped on a cut left eye.

1971-02-20 177½ Terry Lee 176 11-8-3
Valley Music Theatre, Woodland Hills, California, United States W UD 10 10
1971-01-09 178½ Robie Harris 237¾ 3-6-1
Valley Music Theatre, Woodland Hills, California, United States W PTS 10 10
1970-11-21 185½ Steve Grant 190 13-8-0
Valley Music Theatre, Woodland Hills, California, United States D PTS 8 8
1970-08-10 182 Steve Carter 202 13-2-0
Auditorium, Oakland, California, United States L UD 10 10
1970-06-29 179 Hank Casey 179½ 32-9-6
Oakland, California, United States L PTS 9 9
1970-05-01 178 A J Staples 176 10-4-0
Saint Louis, Missouri, United States W PTS 10 10
1970-03-30 174 Willis Earls 177 8-10-1
Austin, Texas, United States L PTS 10 10
1969-10-27 Frank Niblett 15-35-11
Valley Music Theatre, Woodland Hills, California, United States W UD 10 10
1969-08-26 180½ Rocky Martin 182 7-10-0
Valley Music Theatre, Woodland Hills, California, United States W TKO 8 10
1969-07-01 177 Steve Grant 189 12-7-0
Valley Music Theatre, Woodland Hills, California, United States W SD 10 10
~ referee: Larry Rozadilla 4-5 | judge: George Latka 6-2 | judge: Bob Dossey 6-2 ~

1968-12-04 Lino Rendon 19-16-2
Fairground Auditorium, Ventura, California, United States W PTS 10 10
1968-08-27 181 Sonny Moore 199 20-27-2
Municipal Auditorium, San Antonio, Texas, United States W UD 10 10
1968-07-17 187 Gary Bates 195½ 10-4-2
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 6 6
1968-07-06 196 Dick Gosha 191 7-7-0
County Fairgrounds, Ventura, California, United States W PTS 10 10
1968-04-11 Willis Earls 3-5-1
Sports Palace, Beaumont, Texas, United States W KO 2
1967-11-28 George Johnson 12-17-4
San Diego, California, United States L PTS 10 10
1967-10-09 191 Sam Wyatt 189 4-5-2
Municipal Auditorium, Long Beach, California, United States L PTS 6 6
1967-07-27 201 Mark White 184 2-3-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 2 6
1967-05-04 198 Roy Wallace 203 2-0-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States D PTS 6 6
1967-04-06 194 Mark White 199 2-1-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W UD 6 6
1967-03-23 188 Mark White 197 1-1-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L PTS 4 4
1967-02-16 188 Gene Turner 178 2-3-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 4 4
1967-02-02 188 Frank Davis 209 1-5-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 4 4
1966-11-03 186 Buddy Levine 202 2-3-0
Seattle Center Coliseum, Seattle, Washington, United States W TKO 4
1966-05-09 Lavern Hardison
Hacienda Hotel, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W KO 4
1966-03-28 175 Scott Wisooker 175 1-1-0
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 5 5
1966-01-15 Archie Ray 18-4-2
Phoenix, Arizona, United States L KO 3
1962-03-30 169 Aaron Peralta 165 1-5-0
Sports Arena, Los Angeles, California, United States L PTS 4 4
White was knocked down in the 3rd round.

1959-07-10 Dewayne Garris 6-3-1
Monroe, Louisiana, United States W PTS 4 4
1958-12-12 Bill DeSoto
Monroe, Louisiana, United States L PTS 4 4

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 11 Aug 2010, 20:40
by Rick Farris
:box: Rene Macias was another L.A. club fighter who provided a lot of action, and a lot of blood.
He didn't posess a winning record, but he was a winner with fans, as he waged exciting wars with a number of world class boxers.
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Rene Macias

lightweight
Los Angeles, California
won 7 (KO 1) + lost 27 (KO 9) + drawn 1 = 35
rounds boxed 225





1969-10-23 136 Al Ford 135 20-0-0
Portland, Oregon, United States L PTS 10 10
1969-05-20 133½ Enrique Jana 136 34-10-8
Civic Auditorium, San Jose, California, United States L TKO 4 10
1969-03-17 126 Frankie Crawford 127 25-7-4
Circle Star Theatre, San Carlos, California, United States L SD 10 10
~ referee: Frankie Carter ~

1968-12-19 130 Rodolfo Gonzalez 131½ 61-4-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L TKO 9 10
~ time: 1:45 | referee: John Thomas ~
Macias was stopped on cuts.

1968-11-07 127 Bobby Rodriguez 130 19-0-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L UD 10 10
1968-09-30 130 Richard Sue 130 26-5-2
Portland, Oregon, United States L UD 10 10
1968-08-15 130 Jose Moreno 127 23-5-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W MD 10 10
~ referee: Larry Rozadilla 5-4 | judge: Lee Grossman 5-3 | judge: John Thomas 4-4 ~

1968-07-17 130 Pete Gonzalez 129 24-14-3
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States L PTS 10 10
1968-06-05 Pete Gonzalez 22-14-2
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States L PTS 10 10
1968-05-29 130 Tony Alvarado 130 17-5-1
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W SD 10 10
1968-02-27 130½ Bobby Valdez 129¾ 20-4-2
Community Concourse, San Diego, California, United States L TKO 1 10
1968-02-07 132 Pete Gonzalez 132 17-11-2
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 10 10
1968-01-16 131¾ Bobby Valdez 129 19-4-2
Community Concourse, San Diego, California, United States L TD 5 10
1967-12-14 133½ Gabriel Hernandez 131½ 10-12-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W SD 10 10
1967-11-09 133 Felipe Torres 132 5-2-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L PTS 4 4
1967-10-05 128 Baby Cassius 129 8-3-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States D PTS 10 10
~ referee: John Thomas 5-5 | judge: George Latka 5-5 | judge: Larry Rozadilla 5-4 ~

1967-09-07 125 Vic Jimenez 124½ 3-0-3
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 6 6
1967-08-24 126 Memo Guerrero 126½ 1-2-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L PTS 6 6
1967-08-03 133 Eliseo Estrada 131 2-4-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L SD 6 6
1967-07-13 127 Roy DeFilippas 125 2-0-0
Convention Center, Anaheim, California, United States L PTS 6 6
1967-07-03 128 Rodrigo Contreras 127½ 8-7-0
Fremont Hotel, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States L PTS 8 8
1967-06-22 128 Roy DeFilippas 127 1-0-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L PTS 6 6
1967-06-05 Tony Alvarado 12-2-1
Fremont Hotel, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States L PTS 8 8
1967-06-01 Roy DeFilippas
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L PTS 6 6
1967-03-23 126 Al Bolton 126 0-1-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L KO 1 6
1966-11-07 Jose Garcia 3-2-0
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W PTS 5 5
1966-10-24 Fidel Cruz 7-19-1
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W KO 2
1966-10-03 Rodrigo Contreras 5-3-0
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States L PTS 6 6
1966-09-19 Lloyd Ungbricht 1-0-0
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States L UD 5 5
1966-05-09 Leonardo Lopez 2-0-0
Hacienda Hotel, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States L KO 4
1966-04-23 133 Len Kesey 140 10-2-0
Portland, Oregon, United States L KO 4 6
1966-04-04 130 Tony Alvarado 129 1-0-0
Hacienda Hotel, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States L PTS 5 5
1966-03-07 Eddie Santos 3-4-0
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States L KO 5
1965-06-16 124½ Manny Linson 126½ 17-17-3
Hacienda Hotel, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States L KO 1 6
~ time: 1:20 ~

1965-04-12 Raul Montoya 9-0-0
Guaymas, Sonora, Mexico L KO 2

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 11 Aug 2010, 21:25
by Rick Farris
I remember Ray White as an intelligent man with a good heart, and a very dry sense of humor.
And what a tough, durable fighter. I wish I had some footage of Windmill, what a showman!

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 11 Aug 2010, 21:41
by Rick Farris
Quarry vs. Lyle . . . the last round.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dMaf97D ... re=related

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 11 Aug 2010, 22:03
by Rick Farris
Heavyweight counter-punching perfection . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SoIWuKS ... re=related
Jerry Quarry finishes off Mac Foster.

Shavers, Lyle, Foster . . . all big heavies for the era. All over 6'3", carry more than 210 pounds, Lyle was 219.
Watch how Jerry finishes them off. You don't see that today in a heavyweight of any color or nationality.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 11 Aug 2010, 22:24
by Rick Farris
At age 22, Jerry Quarry fought in an eight man elimination tourney to determine a successor to Muhammad Ali's WBA Heavyweight title.
Joe Frazier did not participate, claiming the N.Y. version of the title after defeating Buster Mathis.
Quarry defeated Floyd Patterson in the quarter-final, and then was matched with favorite Thad Spencer in a semi-final.
The winner to face Jimmy Ellis for the WBA title.
Jerry was the betting under dog, as he was in later years when matched against Mac Foster, Ron Lyle and Earnie Shavers.
Johnny Flores was very confident, Jerry was not his normal lazy self, actually woke to an alarm clock for early morning runs with stablemates.
And it was common knowledge that Spencer was discounting Jerry Quarry. He was living big up in Oakland, life was a party.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hJzKQ9g ... re=related

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 11 Aug 2010, 22:32
by Chuck1052
As someone who has lived in Ventura County for the last forty-six years, I read in the local newspaper that Ray "Windmill" White lived in Oak View, a small unincorporated town located on Highway 33 between Ventura and Ojai. I think that many writers from outside of Ventura County listed Ventura as White's hometown, which isn't unusual. There is many a time when the nearest substantial city is listed as a fighter's hometown even if he lives in another community.

- Chuck Johnston

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 11 Aug 2010, 22:53
by Rick Farris
A Quarry signature . . .

In all of Jerry's fights with bigger heavyweights, watch him dig his left hook to the liver.
That's an L.A. thing, the Mexican influence.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 11 Aug 2010, 23:04
by Panzerfaust
The last 8 days have been wonderfull. I honestly love Hollywood, the people ,the menudo and the weather.
Also ive had a great time on Wildcard, spent a few hours there everyday watching Mr.Roach working with fighters. He honestly impressed me more than i would have thought. And i have learned a great deal ill bring home and teach my fighters.
Im hoping i can make a trip over just past new year:p

Remy

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 12 Aug 2010, 03:20
by bennie
Rick Farris wrote:Bennie . . .

Could you give us a report on Alan Rudkin?
What has he done since boxing?
I don't know to be honest, Rick. I know he squandered his money and lives a blue-collar life in Liverpool.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 12 Aug 2010, 08:09
by kikibalt
Young Duarte fighters will vie for trophies at tourney

Amateur boxers from clubs throughout Southern California will take part in the city parks and recreation department's annual Duarte Youth Boxing Tournament starting at noon Saturday in the gym at Duarte High School, 1565 E. Central Ave.

Weigh-ins start at 9 a.m., with match-making to follow. Doors will open to the public at noon, with the first bouts scheduled to begin at 1 p.m.

Contenders ranging in age from 8 to 18 will be matched by age, weight and experience. The winner of each bout will receive a trophy.

General admission is $5. Children 11 and under get in for $3. Admission is free for ages 3 and under.

For more information, call 626-303-0863 or 626-967-0291.