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Panzerfaust wrote:The last 8 days have been wonderfull. I honestly love Hollywood, the people ,the menudo and the weather.
Also ive had a great time on Wildcard, spent a few hours there everyday watching Mr.Roach working with fighters. He honestly impressed me more than i would have thought. And i have learned a great deal ill bring home and teach my fighters.
Im hoping i can make a trip over just past new year:p

Remy

Ram, it would be nice if you could come out for our hall of fame in June 0f 2011.

kikibalt wrote:

Panzerfaust wrote:The last 8 days have been wonderfull. I honestly love Hollywood, the people ,the menudo and the weather.
Also ive had a great time on Wildcard, spent a few hours there everyday watching Mr.Roach working with fighters. He honestly impressed me more than i would have thought. And i have learned a great deal ill bring home and teach my fighters.
Im hoping i can make a trip over just past new year:p

Remy

Ram, it would be nice if you could come out for our hall of fame in June 0f 2011.

Ill try my best to get out here then think i might take a tripp before it aswell

The first time I saw Jerry Quarry was here on Long Island. It was the spring of 1974. Jerry was here making one of his few New York appearances. I remember the Heavyweight title was now a fiasco with the various groups holding its own rankings (WbA,Wbc, etc etc).
Jerry trained under a white tent set up in the parking lot of the Harry Hemsley owned Island Inn here in Westbury,Long Island. Part of the 2-story Hotel had the restaurant John Peel Room,a famed steakhouse on Long Island. I am not positive if Jerry stayed at the hotel, but most likely. Gil Clancy was his trainer and held "open to the public" training sessions in the afternoon.I think they were daily, but could have been like a Mon-Wed-Fri. deal also.
My father, who knew Gil for a long time, took me over to view a session. I was 17 yrs old.
They were collecting a few dollars at the tent entrance but Clancy waved us in.
Jerry was shadow boxing in the ring. I remember about 30-40 people were on hand to see the session this day. After he finished he exited the ring and worked on the speed bag. Each time he ended a piece of his workout (shadow,speed bag,heavybag,sparring) he would get applause from all and the usual "Way to go Jerry" stuff.
I believe he was training for his Joe Aexander fight here at the Nassau Coliseum-about 2 miles away.
I also believe he stayed right in place to train for the Joe Frazier fight at the Garden a month later. I dont remember which fight he was tuning up for, probably the Alexander one as my father wasted no time in seeing Gil when he came out to the Island.
During a brief break, Gil called my father and I over to meet Jerry. He was taking a 5-10 minute break before he began sparring with 2 other fighters in earnest. He was very nice. We wished him well on his fight and he said some nice things about my dad. A pleasant exchange.
I also recall he had some slurry speech but he had a long hard-hitting career behind him already.
The musical group Fifth Dimension was there also to see him. They took some promo shots with him,then resumed some sparring.
I remember Gil worked him pretty hard. Jerry didnt flag anything and for a good hour or so put a hard one in. It was a very enjoyable moment for all. I dont remember who his spars were.

Many years later as I watched as he tried to stage his comeback. I remember saying to myself that how sad it is he was probably broke and needed the fights, but his head and body was paying a severe price. His last fight in 1992 was a sham and someone should have been arrested for that one. Greg Page lost his life in the same manner. An outrage that Boxing has to address.

I only saw one of Quarry's fights live & that was when he came to London to fight Big jack Bodell a good friend of mine Vic Moore a London heavyweight had been up to Derbyshire sparring with Jack & thought he had a real chance his camp felt that Jerry was a slow starter & Jack would KO him early( how wrong were they) Jerry buckled his legs within the first 30 sec then laid him out like a cheap carpet. My mate could not believe how quick Jack folded

Rick Farris wrote:The Fascination of Main Street . . .


My destination on Main Street was located right in the heart of skid row.
I grew up in Burbank, a fairly middle-class neighborhood in the San Fernando Valley.
There was no skid row in Burbank. There was little desperation that I was aware of.
Burbank was a working man's town, home to many film industry personnel.
As a kid, I had a wild streak and when I turned thirteen, was already known by the Juvenile Authority.
I wasn't into drugs, or anything too deep, but I had too much energy.
Boxing burned up that energy. The best thing I ever did in my life, in many ways.
Boxing also introduced me to the other side of life. It took me to a place that mesmerized me, Skid Row Downtown L.A.
Aside from the old winos who would be curled up on the sidewalk, often tucked away behind a box, it was the buildings.
These buildings were ancient burlesque houses, ones that were popular decades earlier in the century.
They were pawn shops, knife shops, a downstairs basement pool hall about a block south of the gym.
There were little deals going on, out of sight, yet in plain sight. There were freaks, trans-sexuals, what a cast of players.
Very intriquing to me. I'd walk the street alone, or with my brother or cousin.
The gym was located upstairs in what was once a theatre located above a larger, ground floor burlesque house.
The theatre below was closed, and they knocked out the front wall on Main Street and back wall by the parking lot.
They paved the floor and the theatre was now a tunnel that led thru the building to the parking lot behind.
This was done years before, and you could still see the lighting fixtures attached to the ceiling above what was once the stage.
Below the gym, on the south side of the tunnel was a pawn shop and the ultimate dive bar, on the north side a barber college and luggage shop.

I'd have my gym bag slung over my shoulder, checking things out. Walk to the bus stop on Spring Street and go home.
I gotta education on Main Street.


-Rick Farris

Rick, the barber college you mentioned on your great story on Main Street was owned by Bert Lewis in the '40's & '50's. In the '40's and '50's Lewis was a well known L.A. boxing manager, he manage John Thomas in the '40's and at one time also manage Gil Cadilli, he might have at one time worked with Frankie and Juan Luis Campos. The Campos brother's went to Lewis's barber colege and became barbers. Below is a picture of Lewis and Thomas, plus others, Lewis is the white guy....



Bert Lewis, John Thomas, trainer George Tolson and Chas Williams

Thanks for the info on that Barber College.

I remember one weekend my grandfather needed a haircut, and went down and got one at the Barber College while I loosened up in the gym.

telboy66 wrote:I only saw one of Quarry's fights live & that was when he came to London to fight Big jack Bodell a good friend of mine Vic Moore a London heavyweight had been up to Derbyshire sparring with Jack & thought he had a real chance his camp felt that Jerry was a slow starter & Jack would KO him early( how wrong were they) Jerry buckled his legs within the first 30 sec then laid him out like a cheap carpet. My mate could not believe how quick Jack folded

Nothing to be ashamed of, Jerry did the same thing to Earnie Shavers, and others.

Here's the Quarry-Bodell fight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYnDVFZRSAU

bennie wrote:

Looks like "Indian Red" . . .
the inspiration of this thread

Long time Los Angeles boxing trainer/manager and bail bonds man, Henry Blouin has died. Henry and Jerry Moore were partner's in the boxing biz...

kikibalt wrote:Long time Los Angeles boxing trainer/manager and bail bonds man, Henry Blouin has died. Henry and Jerry Moore were partner's in the boxing biz...

Henry Blouin . . .

Frank, I remember Moore & Blouin's stable out of the Hoover Street Gym.
I also have a clear memory of Henry at amateur events when I was a kid.
I know Jerry Moore passed a few years back.

He was part of the L.A. boxing scene that I knew. They had a great stable of fighters over the years.
Rest in Peace.

Breeding Grounds . . .


Teamsters Gym, Stanton A.C., Sacred Heart Boys Club, Moore & Blouin Stable (Hoover St. Gym), Hawiian Gardens Teen Post 109, Johnny Flores Gym, Main St. Gym (Soto Bros.), Eastside Boy's Club, Gordon Shaw's Gym, Seaside Gym . . .

These are a few of the clubs that provided amateur boxing talent, age 4 up, in Los Angeles back in the 60's.
Henry Blouin was always in the mix of the era, regardless of pee-wees or pros, Blouin was a solid teacher and experienced trainer.
He and partner Jerry Moore developed a small child, named Andrew Price, into a world class welterweight contender, Andy "The Hawk" Price.
Just one of many over decades of involvment.

I am visualizing Jerry Moore at the table, along with Henry Blouin, Johnny Flores, Frank Baltzar, Louie Jarequi, Jake Horn, L.C. Morgan, and Tony Cerda.
It's back in the mid-60's. They are matching up Junior boxers.
"But your kid weighs too much."....... "Well your kid has had more fights."
The negotiations start early in boxing. The good guys, like the ones named, they worked it all out.

I recall those match making moments, held just before the show was to begin. You get there a few minutes early.
Of course, Johnny Flores usually made my matches, and Frank was always there with guys like Henry Blouin.
These men all gave a lot of themselves, for the kids, for boxing. I know that they got something from it, as well.

Once again, rest in peace Henry Blouin.


-Rick Farris

Mexican Club Fighter, L.A. Headliner . . .
Jose Valenzuela

I first watched Jose Valenzuela in 1966. He fought one of my local favorites, Frank "Too Sweet" Jennings, and they went to war.
Jennings prevailed, in one of those unheralded matches that in reality might merit, "Fight of the Year" consideration.
I then saw him in with Indian Red Lopez, at the Olympic, as well as Hedge Lewis and "Shotgun" Albarado, whom Valenzuela floored.
A exciting fighter who became one of my first examples regarding the term, "A Bleeder". Valenzuela was a bleeder.
His protruding eye brows were laced with scar tissue. He and Jennings engaged in a blood bath. Lopez and Lewis cut him to ribbons.
Exciting stuff at the Olympic in the late 60's, and Valenzuela can take credit for his part.
At the time, cuts were often sealed with Nu-Skin, a liquid that hardens into a protective layer.
Valenzuela's corner would pack their fighters wounds with medicine, and then try to seal it with Nu-Skin.
The Nu-skin would hold for awhile, but soon chipped off during the match.
The hardened layer would hang down from the cut, appearing as if flesh was hanging, making the fighter look like a bloody monster.
That's how Valenzuela would look, flesh peeling away, blood flowing. This was the real life of a club fighter.
This is a forgotten boxer. However, I bet Frankie Jennings remembered him right up to his last breath.
Valenzuela fought everybody tough.

Here is his record. A Classic American West Coast Club Fighter . . .
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Jose Valenzuela

birth date 1944-01-01
lightweight
Gomez Palacio, Durango, Mexico
won 30 (KO 21) + lost 28 (KO 14) + drawn 2 = 60
rounds boxed 384



1977-01-29 Clarence Howard 6-2-1
Community Center, Tucson, Arizona, United States L PTS 8 8
1972-03-25 130 David Diaz 130½ 14-1-2
Auditorium, Long Beach, California, United States L KO 9 10
1972-03-17 134 Chi Chi Ontiveros 130 4-13-1
Coliseum, San Diego, California, United States W PTS 6 6
1971-05-31 Jose Valdez 3-3-0
Baseball Park, National City, California, United States W PTS 10 10
1970-07-08 Ruben Arocha 33-14-7
Mexico City, Distrito Federal, Mexico L TKO 6 10
1970-05-22 129¼ Rigoberto Chavarin 131 0-4-0
San Diego, California, United States L PTS 10 10
1970-02-28 125 Clemente Sanchez 125 27-7-2
Monterrey, Nuevo León, Mexico L KO 4 10
1969-11-08 Humberto Reyes 2-4-0
Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico W KO 2
1969-08-25 125 Jose Luis Madrid 124 13-4-0
Nuevo Laredo, Tamaulipas, Mexico L TKO 2
1969-05-26 149 Raul Soriano 145 41-13-1
Tijuana, Baja California, Mexico L KO 1 10
1969-02-06 146 Oscar Albarado 145 23-0-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L TKO 6 10
~ referee: Dick Young | judge: Eddie Fierro | judge: Chuck Hassett ~
Albarado was knocked down in the 1st round. Valenzuela was stopped on a cut left eye.

1968-11-11 147 Ruben Arocha 145 31-11-7
Tijuana, Baja California, Mexico W PTS 10 10
1968-10-02 145 Lalo Sosa 145
Chihuahua, Chihuahua, Mexico W KO 9
1968-06-19 145 Charlie Shipes 147½ 33-3-2
Auditorium, Oakland, California, United States L KO 6 10
~ time: 1:31 ~

1968-05-16 Genaro Gaytan 13-11-2
Durango, Durango, Mexico W PTS 10 10
1968-04-25 144 Hedgemon Lewis 145 19-0-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L TKO 5 10
~ time: 3:00 | referee: Larry Rozadilla ~
The bout was stopped after the 5th round.

1968-02-29 145 Art Cruz 145 9-1-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 4 10
~ time: 0:58 ~

1967-12-14 145½ Art Cruz 146 7-1-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L PTS 10 10
Cruz was knocked down in the 2nd round.

1967-10-12 144 Ernie Lopez 148 28-4-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L TKO 10 10
~ time: 2:35 | referee: Dick Young ~
Valenzuela was knocked down in the 4th and 5th round.

1967-07-20 Constancio Garcia 0-1-1
Durango, Durango, Mexico W KO 8
1967-05-23 Manuel Gonzalez 39-15-6
Houston, Texas, United States L KO 7
1967-03-09 Mauro Martinez
Durango, Durango, Mexico W KO 5
1967-03-02 147 Frank Jennings 148 15-17-4
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L TKO 8 10
~ time: 1:07 | referee: John Thomas 3-4 | judge: George Latka 6-2 | judge: Larry Rozadilla 4-3 ~
Fight stopped due to a badly cut left eye.

1966-12-19 139 Baby Vasquez 138 93-36-2
Tijuana, Baja California, Mexico L PTS 10 10
1966-10-20 141½ Andy Gonzalez 139½ 4-2-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L PTS 10 10
1966-09-22 145 Frank Jennings 148½ 13-15-4
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: George Latka 6-4 | judge: Joey Olmos 6-4 | judge: Dick Young 7-3 ~

1966-02-28 Beto Gerrardo 10-11-0
Tijuana, Baja California, Mexico W PTS 10 10
1965-04-11 124 Genaro Gaytan 124 3-4-1
La Laguna, Baja California Sur, Mexico W KO 8 10
1964-08-29 Cubanito Ruiz
Gomez Palacio, Durango, Mexico W KO 3
1964-08-29 118 Cubanito Ruiz 121
Culiacan, Sinaloa, Mexico W KO 3
1964-07-27 Luis Cordoba
Gomez Palacio, Durango, Mexico W KO 3
1964-03-21 111 Manuel Flores 111 15-1-0
Plaza de Toros, Torreon, Coahuila de Zaragoza, Mexico L PTS 12 12
1964-02-20 Vicente Garcia 22-6-2
Gomez Palacio, Durango, Mexico W PTS 10 10
Boxing News March 13, 1964/1965 Ring Record Book.

1964-01-01 Gustavo Sosa 10-9-2
Gomez Palacio, Durango, Mexico W KO 2 10
1963-10-03 113 Luis Gonzalez 111 8-2-0
Olympica, Gomez Palacio, Durango, Mexico L KO 5 10
1963-09-12 116 Santos Sandoval 113 1-0-0
Arena Olimpica, Gomez Palacio, Durango, Mexico W KO 2 10
1963-08-01 114 Torito Mota 118 36-22-2
Arena Olimpica, Gomez Palacio, Durango, Mexico L PTS 10 10
1963-06-20 Panchito Figueroa
Gomez Palacio, Durango, Mexico W KO 3
1963-04-21 Efren Torres 18-1-0
Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico L KO 1 10
1963-04-04 115 Cornelio Vega 116 9-9-0
Arena Olimpica, Gomez Palacio, Durango, Mexico D PTS 10 10
1963-03-14 113 Babe Lopez 119 14-19-2
Gomez Palacio, Durango, Mexico W KO 6 10
1963-02-07 119 Adalberto Martinez 118 6-3-0
Arena Olimpica, Gomez Palacio, Durango, Mexico W PTS 10 10
1962-11-01 Patricio Petatan 7-4-0
Gomez Palacio, Durango, Mexico L PTS 10 10
1962-10-17 Raul Rodriguez 7-1-0
Mexico City, Distrito Federal, Mexico L PTS 8 8
1962-08-28 113 Chocolate Zambrano 115 4-2-1
Bull Ring, Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico L UD 10 10
1962-07-31 112 Fabian Esquival 114 10-3-0
Bull Ring, Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico D PTS 10 10
1962-04-24 Fabian Esquival 9-1-0
Auditorio Municipal, Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico L SD 10 10
1962-02-01 112 Efren Torres 114 9-0-0
Arena Olimpica, Gomez Palacio, Durango, Mexico L KO 2 10
1962-01-01 110 Patricio Petatan 113 6-3-0
Arena Olimpica, Gomez Palacio, Durango, Mexico L SD 10 10
1961-09-28 113 Leoncito Armendariz 113 3-1-0
Gomez Palacio, Durango, Mexico W KO 4 10
1961-08-03 Manuel 'Chango' Magallanes 4-3-1
Gomez Palacio, Durango, Mexico L PTS 10 10
1961-05-15 110 Luis Gonzalez 109 13-6-1
Torreon, Coahuila de Zaragoza, Mexico W KO 4 12
1961-03-26 Rolando Martinez 0-5-0
Plaza de Toros, Torreon, Coahuila de Zaragoza, Mexico W KO 3
1961-03-09 Manny Lasso 0-1-0
Olympica, Gomez Palacio, Durango, Mexico W KO 1
1961-01-26 115 Manuel 'Chango' Magallanes 110 1-1-1
Olympica, Gomez Palacio, Durango, Mexico L PTS 6 6
1961-01-01 117 Cocliso Acosta 120
Torreon, Coahuila de Zaragoza, Mexico W KO 2
1960-12-01 116 Adan Sifuentes 118
Gomez Palacio, Durango, Mexico W KO 2
1960-10-27 116 Juan Jasso 118 2-2-1
Gomez Palacio, Durango, Mexico W KO 3
1960-08-25 114 Memo Arredo 117
Gomez Palacio, Durango, Mexico W PTS 4 4
1960-07-28 114 Tony Hernandez 115½ 1-6-0
Gomez Palacio, Durango, Mexico W KO 1

L.A. Club Fighters I remember . . .
"Baby Cassius Clay" sensation, Eric Thomas!


When I first began boxing at the Johnny Flores Gym, in 1965, I was aware of a young pro lightweight, who fought prelims on TV from the Olympic.
The young boxer was introduced as, "Baby Cassius", by ring announcer, Jimmy Lennon.
In a later broadcast, matchmaker Mickey Davies would reveal that Baby Cassius' real name was Eric Thomas.
All I knew about Eric Thomas was that he had a lot of skills, and he was a dead ringer for Muhammad Ali.
I also knew that he was handled by Canto Robeledo, and fought out of Canto's "Crown City Boxing Club" in Pasadena.

Like the real Cassius Clay, Eric Thomas fought with his hands down, pulled away from hooking punches, and got away with it in the beginning.
I would discover that Baby Cassius alctually got his start in the same place I did, the Johnny Flores Gym in the San Fernando Valley.

I never asked why he ended up with Canto, but I recall seeing a hand made flyer tacked to a Flores Gym wall proclaiming a young amateur as the next "Baby Cassius Clay sensation"!!! ERIC THOMAS!!!!! It was an example of youthful energy, hope, chasing a dream. Something young Eric Thomas had drawn in an art class? That must have been the early 60's, just before I started.

Fast forward to late 1971, Baby Cassius is a verteran pro. No longer 130 pounds, Eric Thomas is a full welterweight, well, almost a welter.
He is now a sparring partner for a great champ, Jose "Mantequilla" Napoles. It was a job that defines "Blood Money".
Napoles was preparing for his first fight with Hedgeman Lewis. Baby Cassius was on the payroll.
I was a sparring partner for Ruben Olivares, who would face Jesus Pimentel on the same card.

Napoles would workout first, before Olivares. He and Baby Cassius would box several rounds. Mantequilla beat the hell out of him.
I would be in the dressing room, lacing up my shoes as I prepared for Olivares.

Eric would walk in and start moaning. His face was smollen, discolored, he looked like he was forty, although not yet twenty-three.
"All I want to do is earn a little Christmas money, but this guy is killing me."
I was lucky, Olivares was just cruising thru our sparring sessions. I knew I could be feeling the same as Baby Cassius, if Ruben unloaded like Napoles.

That was the last time I saw "Baby Cassius". He came up with guys such as Ruben Navarro, Lenny Lopez, Rene Macias and Tony Alvarado. Here is his record:
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Baby Cassius

lightweight
alias Eric Thomas
residence Los Angeles, California, United States
won 16 (KO 5) + lost 20 (KO 5) + drawn 3 = 39
rounds boxed 307



1974-03-01 Miguel Mayan 23-18-4
Coliseum, San Diego, California, United States L KO 10 10
1974-02-06 Javier Ayala 17-10-1
San Francisco, California, United States W PTS 10 10
1973-12-11 137 Ray Lunny III 136 14-0-1
Civic Auditorium, San Francisco, California, United States L UD 10 10
~ referee: Tony Bosnich 0-11 | judge: Vern Bybee 0-12 | judge: Jack Downey 1-12 ~

1973-05-24 138 Jimmy Robertson 138½ 26-6-2
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L TD 3 10
1973-01-15 139 Miguel Mayan 139 20-9-2
Riverside Ballroom Arena, Phoenix, Arizona, United States W SD 10 10
1972-05-17 Gerardo Ferrat 21-7-1
Guaymas, Sonora, Mexico L KO 6
1971-09-25 Victor Tshabalala 11-6-1
Jabulani, Johannesburg, Gauteng, South Africa L PTS 10 10
1971-05-24 132½ Leo Young 135¼ 25-8-2
Festival Hall, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia W PTS 10 10
~ referee: Terry Reilly ~

1971-05-14 129 Toro George 128 28-9-3
Festival Hall, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia L PTS 10 10
~ referee: Des Crabbe ~

1970-09-21 132½ Jose Angel Herrera 128½ 4-2-0
Civic Auditorium, San Francisco, California, United States L PTS 10 10
1970-08-07 133 Angel Mayoral 134½ 12-2-0
San Diego, California, United States L PTS 10 10
1970-06-20 132 Anthony Morodi 128½ 56-5-1
Orlando Stadium, Soweto, Gauteng, South Africa L PTS 10 10
1970-04-28 128¾ Rogelio Tulunghari 130 13-21-4
Honolulu, Hawaii, United States D PTS 10 10
1970-03-02 124 Ignacio Pina 124 49-19-3
Mexicali, Baja California, Mexico L PTS 10 10
Date Approximate. Source: June 1970 Ring Magazine, page #46.

1969-10-14 Hubert Kang 24-11-1
Honolulu, Hawaii, United States W PTS 10 10
1969-06-26 135 Jimmy Robertson 134 11-1-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L TKO 2 10
~ referee: Dick Young ~
Cassius was stopped on a cut in his mouth after the 2nd round ended.

1969-05-19 Gerardo Ferrat 10-0-1
Mexicali, Baja California, Mexico L PTS 10 10
1969-04-24 132 Bobby Rodriguez 137 20-2-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Larry Rozadilla 6-3 | judge: Rudy Jordan 4-3 | judge: Lee Grossman 4-3 ~

1969-02-09 133 Ignacio Pina 128 47-19-3
Mexicali, Baja California, Mexico L PTS 10 10
1968-12-15 124 Gerardo Ferrat 125 6-0-0
Mexicali, Baja California, Mexico D PTS 10 10
Exact date unknown. Reported in April 1969 Ring Magazine

1968-11-24 Ignacio Pina 46-18-3
Mexicali, Baja California, Mexico W PTS 10 10
1968-10-10 128 Fernando Sotelo 129 23-8-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L TKO 9 10
~ time: 1:43 | referee: Dick Young ~

1968-09-26 129 Luis Ramirez 132 24-11-3
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L UD 10 10
~ referee: Larry Rozadilla 3-5 | judge: John Thomas 4-5 | judge: Joey Olmos 3-6 ~

1968-08-23 Memo Morales 6-2-0
San Bernardino, California, United States W KO 7 10
1968-07-26 Felix Jasso 2-2-0
Arena, San Bernardino, California, United States W KO 9 10
1968-04-25 Hidemori Tsujimoto 27-11-3
Tokyo, Japan L KO 7 10
~ time: 1:33 ~

1967-10-23 129 Len Kesey 132 15-4-0
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States L PTS 10 10
1967-10-05 129 Rene Macias 128 3-16-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States D PTS 10 10
~ referee: John Thomas 5-5 | judge: George Latka 5-5 | judge: Larry Rozadilla 4-5 ~

1967-09-18 Dave Simonini
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W KO 3
1967-08-03 130½ Rodrigo Contreras 131 9-7-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W TKO 1 10
~ time: 2:45 ~

1967-07-27 129½ Jose Garcia 128 1-6-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 6 6
1967-05-25 129¾ Tony Alvarado 129¼ 11-2-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L PTS 8 8
1967-04-27 130½ Rodrigo Contreras 126 8-6-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 6 6
1967-03-16 129 Tony Porter 127½ 1-5-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 5 6
1967-03-02 130 Ruben Navarro 131½ 3-0-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L PTS 6 6
1966-12-01 129 Tony Alvarado 129 6-2-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L PTS 6 6
1966-11-24 Memo Guerrero
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 4 4
1966-10-26 129 Jeff Phillip Magnan 132½ 5-1-0
Auditorium, Oakland, California, United States W SD 5 5
~ referee: Rudy Ortega ~

1966-10-13 132½ Jimmy Curiel 131
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 4 4

Rick Farris wrote:(Copied directly from Dave Anderson's, "In The Corner")

Trainer Bill Slayton remembers Ken Norton . . .

"When Kenny started training with me he didn't like the Main Street Gym because there was mainly Mexican fighters who didn't know who Ken Norton was. We had to go over to the Hoover Street Gym, which had mostly black fighters. At first, no matter what I said, he doubted it. But I had patience and learned how to reverse things on him. Make it feel it was his idea."

With all respect to Bill Slayton, the truth is, Jerry Quarry trained at the Main Street Gym.
That was what steered Ken Norton to the gym at 78th & Hoover.

1969 "Fight of the Year" . . .
Quarry vs. Frazier I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuQ0ruJOehw&NR=1

kikibalt wrote:

Panzerfaust wrote:The last 8 days have been wonderfull. I honestly love Hollywood, the people ,the menudo and the weather.
Also ive had a great time on Wildcard, spent a few hours there everyday watching Mr.Roach working with fighters. He honestly impressed me more than i would have thought. And i have learned a great deal ill bring home and teach my fighters.
Im hoping i can make a trip over just past new year:p

Remy

Ram, it would be nice if you could come out for our hall of fame in June 0f 2011.

Another Mexican Headliner in L.A..

Rudy Corona

Alias: (Trinidad Lopez Amado)
Born: 1938-06-10
Died: 2007-05-31 (Age:68)
Nationality: Mexican
Hometown: Ciudad Obregon, Sonora, Mexico
passed away may 31st 2007

Fought the best! I'll discuss Corona in due course.

bennie wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:Bennie . . .

Could you give us a report on Alan Rudkin?
What has he done since boxing?

I don't know to be honest, Rick. I know he squandered his money and lives a blue-collar life in Liverpool.

Rick and Bennie

I have heard from people who allegdedly know him that he has fallen on hard times and wasn't in the best of health. However his son Alan jr added me as a friend on facebook and I asked him how his dad was and he said fine and that he really enjoyed the WBC Night of Champions in Cardiff recently.

I guess Eastside will print anyone's article!! Two in a week!!!

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=24738&more=1

bennie wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:Bennie . . .

Could you give us a report on Alan Rudkin?
What has he done since boxing?

I don't know to be honest, Rick. I know he squandered his money and lives a blue-collar life in Liverpool.

From England in the 60's . . .

In the mid-60's, I was dependent upon publications such as The Ring magazine and Boxing Illustrated for any news of British boxing.
I'd follow fighters like bantam Alan Rudkin, featherweight Howard Winstone (Wales), Walter McGowan, Scotland's flyweight world champ, and of course the heavyweights, two of whom challenged Ali for the title before the law stripped him of his belts.
I also would read features about various promoters, such as Mickey Duff, and Reg Guttridge was a favorite writer of mine.

I recall reading of Great Britains latest boxing venue, "supper clubs".
Boxing would be held in upscale supper clubs, and suddenly become black tie events.
I remember one club, the Anglo-American Sporting Club.

A few years later, the trend came to the States, where you could see boxing & dining combined at clubs in Las Vegas, such as the Silver Slipper Casino.
The Slipper put on weekly matches on Wed. nights for years. At times the cards were televised locally.
Personally, with the exception of a quick hot dog and beer, I'm not into mixing boxing with dining. I'll eat before or after, but not during.
Black tie? Why put lipstick on an animal?

Today you are likely to find both type venues in L.A., but things have pretty much gone back to the "arena" situation.

Thanks, Rob!

'Suspicious' blaze hurts 6 Detroit firefighters
Firefighters injured in Detroit collapse .


DETROIT — A burning two-story building in Detroit partially collapsed during a suspicious blaze Friday, injuring six firefighters, including one who suffered a spinal injury, authorities said.

City fire Commissioner James Mack said the half-dozen firefighters were taken to the hospital, and all were expected to live.

The commissioner called the fire "suspicious" and said officials were investigating whether it was intentionally set.

"The job is dangerous. We don't need situations in this city where people are starting fires," Mack said. "People think this is a joke or think it's funny. But we don't need it, because people can get hurt. People can get killed."

Fire personnel arrived at the scene at 5 a.m. and extinguished the blaze, but it rekindled more than two hours later after they had left, Mack said.

Firefighters returned and entered the building, and bricks and other debris fell on them, the commissioner said.

S. Chen / AP
Map locates site of a commercial building fire and collapse that injured emergency responders.Detroit Mayor Dave Bing said he was "saddened and disappointed," to hear it may have been arson.

It is "our responsibility as a community to help put an end to the dangerous and irresponsible behaviors that puts all of at risk," the mayor said in a statement.

By midmorning, clouds of dark smoke that earlier shrouded the scene had weakened into a lighter white fog as crews poured water on top of the building, which housed a phone business, beauty salon and liquor store.

"It's real dramatic," said Walter Young, 62, a passer-by.

"This is really quite shocking. It's a punch to the gut," said Joshua Elling, director of a neighborhood business association.

The building is about five miles from downtown Detroit and just west of the suburb of Grosse Pointe Park.

"It does break our hearts, but our hearts are already broken," an unnamed firefighter told ClickOnDetroit.com. "We're just going to try to be tough and support our families. We have some serious injuries going on here. It's a life-changing day for us."

Boxingnut wrote:I guess Eastside will print anyone's article!! Two in a week!!!

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=24738&more=1

Great article, again. They'll publish what ever you write, it's good boxing.

Time for a break! D