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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 11 Sep 2010, 21:17
by Randyman
Rick Farris wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Police: Floyd Mayweather Jr. being sought in domestic violence incident
September 9, 2010

Unbeaten boxer Floyd Mayweather Jr. is being sought for questioning in Las Vegas after a domestic violence report was given by his former girlfriend early Thursday morning.

The woman, Josie Harris, who Las Vegas Metropolitan Police say has children with Mayweather, summoned multiple police cars at 5:03 a.m. to a southwest Las Vegas home and reported the boxer attacked her. Domestic violence investigators were at the scene, police spokesman Bill Cassell told The Times. The spokesman said Harris was treated at a hospital for "minor injuries" and released.

"At this point, Mr. Mayweather is a suspect in a domestic battery violence case, and we would very much like to speak with him," Cassell said.

Mayweather's spokeswoman had no information about the alleged incident, and attempts to reach his adviser were not immediately successful.

Cassell said details such as what prompted the alleged incident and Harris' specific injuries were "part of the investigation." Asked if Mayweather would be arrested, Cassell said only that, for now, the boxer is a "person of interest."

Mayweather, who last fought May 1 and won a lopsided decision over Shane Mosley in Las Vegas, apologized this week after unleashing a racially charged, expletive-filled video attack on his possible future opponent, Manny Pacquiao. Mayweather's uncle and trainer, Roger Mayweather, faces a coming criminal trial for allegedly beating a female boxer.

-- Lance Pugmire

Somebody needs to shoot the bastid. :OhYes:
Like I said a while back - All the money in the world can't buy Floyd Mayweather Jr. class, no way, no how!

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 12 Sep 2010, 00:40
by Rick Farris
Randyman wrote:My cousin Louie Burke will be in town next week. One of his fighters, Antonio Escalante, from El Paso will be fighting on the undercard of of the Shane Mosley vs Sergio Mora fight at the Staples Center. Escalante will be facing Daniel Ponce De Leon in a WBO Title Elimination bout.

Antonio Escalante's Record:
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

Daniel Ponce De Leon's Record:
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

Randy . . . That's one of the better matches on the card. Hope your cousin Louie's kid wins big.
I also want another look at Alvarez, a pretty good prospect.
We have Golden Boy's latest star, Victor Ortiz, who quits when the going gets rough.
Mosely & Mora should give Shane an easy end-of-career payday. I think he desrves that, although past greats never got it.
In the past, former greats usually had to take a life altering ass-whipping on their way out to make a few bucks.
I like that Shane has an easy out, if he'll take it, and then leave for good?

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 12 Sep 2010, 02:52
by bennie
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Hatton is making the wrong headlines.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 12 Sep 2010, 08:57
by Panzerfaust

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 12 Sep 2010, 09:14
by kikibalt
bennie wrote:Image


Hatton is making the wrong headlines.

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/96 ... shame.html

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 12 Sep 2010, 09:19
by kikibalt
Two classic boxers, you don't see anymore boxers like that now days....

I remember seeing that fight on TV as it happened....

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 12 Sep 2010, 12:59
by Rick Farris
bennie wrote:Image


Hatton is making the wrong headlines.

Now that he's pretty much finished his boxing career, Ricky might want to have fun for a little while.
The sad thing about Cocaine is that it will not leave the scene until ALL the money is gone, and then some.
In a dozen years or so, we'll be seeing Ricky Hatton benefits being held, to help him survive daily life.
The term, "history repeats itself", is never more true than in professional boxing

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 12 Sep 2010, 13:38
by Rick Farris
Vivce Delgado . . .

Frank, Vince and I have become friends in recent years and he is a great source of info on the Johnny Forbes stable.
Vince and I will often discuss Forbes' stable, the Campos brothers, Cadilli, Northrup, Carlos Chavez, etc.
I know that Vince fought Davey Moore and other top boxers of the era.
You have pointed out that Johnny Forbes' fighters, for the most part, had classic boxing styles.
Did Vince Delgado have that classic boxing style of the other Forbes boxers?

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 12 Sep 2010, 14:11
by kikibalt
Rick Farris wrote:Vivce Delgado . . .

Frank, Vince and I have become friends in recent years and he is a great source of info on the Johnny Forbes stable.
Vince and I will often discuss Forbes' stable, the Campos brothers, Cadilli, Northrup, Carlos Chavez, etc.
I know that Vince fought Davey Moore and other top boxers of the era.
You have pointed out that Johnny Forbes' fighters, for the most part, had classic boxing styles.
Did Vince Delgado have that classic boxing style of the other Forbes boxers?
Vince was not as classic as Cadilli, he was imo more of a boxer/puncher type of fighter.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 12 Sep 2010, 17:23
by Chuck1052
Congratulations, Tom!

- Chuck Johnston

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 12 Sep 2010, 19:37
by Rick Farris
I just watched last night's HBO card.
Gamboa is very athletic and talented. He is also sloppy and his "hands down" style will likely get him hurt in due course.
Hands-down, head-up = a short career.
One less boxer to waste my time following.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 12 Sep 2010, 19:40
by CNorkusJr
Congratulations Tom and Grandma. Best wishes also to new Mom & Dad.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 12 Sep 2010, 19:50
by CNorkusJr
Rick Farris wrote:The KO Magazine . . .

When I was a kid Johnny Flores had several stacks of ancient KO and REFEREE magazines in his garage.
One evening I arrived at his gym and he had just finished cleaning out his garage.
As my grandfather & Johnny talked, I saw a box that Johnny had put aside for the trash, it was filled with these magazines.
I saw many names of fighters I knew of like Art Aragon, Jimmy Carter, Mario Trigo, Fabela Chavez, Cisco Andrade, etc.
However, I learned of other boxers that had faded away, names I was unfamiliar with such as Charley Sawyer, Young Jack Johnson and others.

A few years later, I'm 19-years-old and with Suey Welch in George Parnassus' office.
Like Flores a few years earlier, George had a box full of old KO magazine publications that were headed for the dumpster.
I asked Parnassus what he planned to do with the Mags and he said they were headed for the trash.
I asked Parnassus if I could have them and he said, "Yes, I think there are some more in the back. Take them."
Suey was laughing and told George that I would likely read every issue.

I would slowly read each magazine, cover-to-cover, over the next few weeks.
You have to understand, it was 1971, and I was reading publications that were roughly 10-to-20 years old.
They were from the time I was born thru my childhood prior to boxing.
After reading a few of the publications, I felt a part of the era, as if it were taking place at the moment.
Some of these guys, the fighters from that era, were still around, like Gil Cadilli.
Gil was long retired, but he was a trainer at the Main Street Gym. Suddenly I looked at Cadilli differently.
Gil Cadilli was no longer just a guy with a towel over his shoulder, he was a man who defeated the great Willie Pep.

Participating in this Forum is the closest thing I've experienced to the interesting info that KO Mag once provided.
I'm happy when Frank takes the time to share his collection with us.
IT's all about what we come here for, Classic American West Coast Boxing.
Nice recollection Rick. I can definitly relate along with many others here I'm sure. The best part of many of these old periodicals is the word stylings of many of the writers of its time and the little known facts that they come up with which bring out the soul of the great sport of boxing. I don't know if all of you agree with me, but I feel that the majority of the sports writers of today are rather colorless in their stylings. Pretty much straight facts with little or no sidebars to who their covering and their lives, unless of course their listing the subjects rap sheet.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 12 Sep 2010, 21:06
by Rick Farris
CNorkusJr wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:The KO Magazine . . .

When I was a kid Johnny Flores had several stacks of ancient KO and REFEREE magazines in his garage.
One evening I arrived at his gym and he had just finished cleaning out his garage.
As my grandfather & Johnny talked, I saw a box that Johnny had put aside for the trash, it was filled with these magazines.
I saw many names of fighters I knew of like Art Aragon, Jimmy Carter, Mario Trigo, Fabela Chavez, Cisco Andrade, etc.
However, I learned of other boxers that had faded away, names I was unfamiliar with such as Charley Sawyer, Young Jack Johnson and others.

A few years later, I'm 19-years-old and with Suey Welch in George Parnassus' office.
Like Flores a few years earlier, George had a box full of old KO magazine publications that were headed for the dumpster.
I asked Parnassus what he planned to do with the Mags and he said they were headed for the trash.
I asked Parnassus if I could have them and he said, "Yes, I think there are some more in the back. Take them."
Suey was laughing and told George that I would likely read every issue.

I would slowly read each magazine, cover-to-cover, over the next few weeks.
You have to understand, it was 1971, and I was reading publications that were roughly 10-to-20 years old.
They were from the time I was born thru my childhood prior to boxing.
After reading a few of the publications, I felt a part of the era, as if it were taking place at the moment.
Some of these guys, the fighters from that era, were still around, like Gil Cadilli.
Gil was long retired, but he was a trainer at the Main Street Gym. Suddenly I looked at Cadilli differently.
Gil Cadilli was no longer just a guy with a towel over his shoulder, he was a man who defeated the great Willie Pep.

Participating in this Forum is the closest thing I've experienced to the interesting info that KO Mag once provided.
I'm happy when Frank takes the time to share his collection with us.
IT's all about what we come here for, Classic American West Coast Boxing.
Nice recollection Rick. I can definitly relate along with many others here I'm sure. The best part of many of these old periodicals is the word stylings of many of the writers of its time and the little known facts that they come up with which bring out the soul of the great sport of boxing. I don't know if all of you agree with me, but I feel that the majority of the sports writers of today are rather colorless in their stylings. Pretty much straight facts with little or no sidebars to who their covering and their lives, unless of course their listing the subjects rap sheet.

Charlie, I agree completely. Writers today are dull, just facts & figures.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 12 Sep 2010, 23:22
by raylawpc
Thanks for all the congratulations, guys. Its funny to receive so many congratulations for having done absolutely nothing!! :lol: :lol: My son and daughter-in-law did all the work, and I just got to sit back and watch everything come about!

My :bow: granddaughter :bow: is absolutely beautiful, and in perfect health. I feel very blessed to have her as part of my life.

Thanks again for all your kind words.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 12 Sep 2010, 23:54
by Rick Farris
raylawpc wrote:Thanks for all the congratulations, guys. Its funny to receive so many congratulations for having done absolutely nothing!! :lol: :lol: My son and daughter-in-law did all the work, and I just got to sit back and watch everything come about!

My :bow: granddaughter :bow: is absolutely beautiful, and in perfect health. I feel very blessed to have her as part of my life.

Thanks again for all your kind words.
Enjoy every moment, Tom. This is what counts in life.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 13 Sep 2010, 03:30
by bennie
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A rare shot of the Dick Tiger v Terry Downes war at little Shoreditch Town Hall in 1957. The two future world middleweight champions shared a purse of 195 nicker.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 13 Sep 2010, 03:58
by bennie
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Pin Norton on the ropes, and you had him.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 13 Sep 2010, 12:58
by kikibalt
Had a busy weekend with Tony and his girlfriend Donna visiting. Donna lives in North Carolina, she went to visit Tony in Arizona and then both drove to visit us, they returned to Arizona this morning.

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Tony & Donna

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And of course the home made menudo that Connie had to make for them.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 13 Sep 2010, 15:11
by kikibalt
Going to show "The Ring" tomorrow at the GSBA meeting in Hollywood.
Showtime, 11:30 AM

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 13 Sep 2010, 15:30
by Rick Farris
kikibalt wrote:Had a busy weekend with Tony and his girlfriend Donna visiting. Donna lives in North Carolina, she went to visit Tony in Arizona and then both drove to visit us, they returned to Arizona this morning.

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Tony & Donna

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And of course the home made menudo that Connie had to make for them.
:TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 13 Sep 2010, 19:18
by Rick Farris
kikibalt wrote:Going to show "The Ring" tomorrow at the GSBA meeting in Hollywood.
Showtime, 11:30 AM

They should enjoy this movie, Frank.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 13 Sep 2010, 19:28
by kikibalt
Rick Farris wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Going to show "The Ring" tomorrow at the GSBA meeting in Hollywood.
Showtime, 11:30 AM

They should enjoy this movie, Frank.
I hope they do. I am sure some of the old timers have seen it, we'll see. Can you make it Rick?

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 13 Sep 2010, 19:59
by Rick Farris
kikibalt wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Going to show "The Ring" tomorrow at the GSBA meeting in Hollywood.
Showtime, 11:30 AM

They should enjoy this movie, Frank.
I hope they do. I am sure some of the old timers have seen it, we'll see. Can you make it Rick?
Frank, I'm working at Paramount Studio tomorrow, which is just a few blocks from the lunch, but I won't be able to stop by.
I talked with Don Fraser and as soon as I have a tuesday free I'd like to show the interviews that Dan & I did awhile back.
I'll do so when I can everybody a little notice. I know some of those interviewed might want to be there.
I think the The Ring is a classic, as it shows the L.A. skyline as it was when the only skyscraper was the City Hall.
The cameos and the buildings really give this the feeling of L.A. boxing at the time.
Of course, how would I know about that? I was born the year the movie came out, 1952.
However, I saw it in the sixties, and enjoyed those little shots of Art Aragon, Keeny Teran, etc.
I remember the first time I watched I recognized the Teamsters Gym, where I had just had my first fight.
And Jimmy Lennon Sr. still had dark hair in those days.
And Rita Moreno was just a teenager back then.

Frank, I think you & I are the movies biggest fans.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 13 Sep 2010, 20:01
by raylawpc
Rick Farris wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:
They should enjoy this movie, Frank.
I hope they do. I am sure some of the old timers have seen it, we'll see. Can you make it Rick?
Frank, I'm working at Paramount Studio tomorrow, which is just a few blocks from the lunch, but I won't be able to stop by.
I talked with Don Fraser and as soon as I have a tuesday free I'd like to show the interviews that Dan & I did awhile back.
I'll do so when I can everybody a little notice. I know some of those interviewed might want to be there.
I think the The Ring is a classic, as it shows the L.A. skyline as it was when the only skyscraper was the City Hall.
The cameos and the buildings really give this the feeling of L.A. boxing at the time.
Of course, how would I know about that? I was born the year the movie came out, 1952.
However, I saw it in the sixties, and enjoyed those little shots of Art Aragon, Keeny Teran, etc.
I remember the first time I watched I recognized the Teamsters Gym, where I had just had my first fight.
And Jimmy Lennon Sr. still had dark hair in those days.
And Rita Moreno was just a teenager back then.

Frank, I think you & I are the movies biggest fans.
I wish I was going to be out there. I've never seen "The Ring."