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handsofstone wrote: ↑12 Jun 2021, 18:57

oogiebe wrote: ↑12 Jun 2021, 18:45

handsofstone wrote: ↑12 Jun 2021, 03:06
Im done mate, seen the Holyfield and Haye fights, Fernando Vargas up next

You made it! you're a warrior bruh!

i think the Cory Spinks binge was worse

Oye! Didn't realize you went through that as well. Maybe next is John (Mr. Excitement) Ruiz.

Bobby Czyz vs Jim McDonald & Leslie Stewart

Czyz vs McDonald for IBF title / May 1987

Coming in to this, his 2nd world title shot, McDonald boasted a newly-found boxing skills and actually he shows them in the 1st round moving&jabbing better than ever, catching Czyz with one pretty, powerful combo and IMO wins the round by a narrow margin (not that Czyz didn't land his share).

All that disappears by the 2nd session and Czyz goes on to severely hammer "Diamond Jim" for 4½ rounds until Tony Orlando merciffully steps in (and being strongly encouraged to do so by both commissioner Hazzard & ringside doctor Doggett). McDonald was known for a really strong chin and soaks the punishment but is completely uncompetitive from the 2nd round onwards. I liberally gave Czyz 10-8 margin in both 4th & 5th round. Bobby looks good here, fight ain't that much. More of a slaughter.


Czyz vs Stewart. Ex-champions battle over 10 rounds / October 1988

Styles fit nice and produce an attractive close fight. While it takes until the 4th round before there is a dominating round by either fighter (Czyz winning 4th big), I still saw "Chappie"'s aggression and higher activity rate to sweep rounds 1-4. Stewart got a sympathy vote for a slower 5th and finally wins his 1st clear round in the 6th to close the margin to manageable 58-56.

Czyz rallies to win the 7th and is on his way to close the deal in the 8th when Leslie's right hand gets there 1st in an exchange and dumps Bobby on his ass some 8 seconds before the end of the round. Last moment 3-point swing in the round suddenly closes the margin to 76-75 for Czyz. Stewart then goes on to have a BIG 9th round as Czyz looks spent and is Trinidadian is definitely on his way to a victory (on my card) halfway to the 10th.

Tired-looking Czyz puts up a desperate late rally though - possibly/probably even stuns ex-WBA champ once or twice and we end up with a real nail-biter of a decision. Personally, i sat on the fence for the 2-act 10th round (Stewart early, Czyz late) and finish with the score of 95-95. One judge had it 95-94 Stewart, another 96-95 Czyz (both acceptable) and the 3rd one scored it 96-93 Czyz for a split decision. The last score of Joe Pasquale was out of line.

Fernando Vargas vs Yory Boy Campas



Vargas stops Campas after 7 rounds to become World Super Welterweight champion, Campas corner pulling their man on his stool after being comprehensively outboxed all night, Vargas juat too young and fresh for Campas, he jabbed him, landed right crosses and kept moving, Campas kept ploughing forward but never had any real success, his corner warned him before 7th he had one more round but it was Vargas who turned iy up and put a beating on his man in the round where Campas trainer seen enough and retired him

You are finally free Handsofstone.........no longer in the dark, dreary and plodding shadow of Big Nick
Now treat yourself fella.

Just as an aside I think Haye v Valuev in November 2009 is worth a watch.
Haye is whip-smart that night and uses his lack of bulk, reach and height near perfectly.....and uses his speed just right.

Beating Mormeck in Paris was David's signature win for me but the Valuev victory was special and especially as it was in Germany and at a time when a German/East European champ could do sod all and yet nab the points decision.

Loved the way David just properly fancied it at the end - went right at the giant - and got some proper, meaty shots in.
Easy to forget that Haye could really fight and that the Bellew fights and "toegate" against Wlad spoils his rep.

Fernando Vargas vs Raul Marquez



Vargas dominates then stops Marquez in the 11th to retain his World Super Welterweight title, comfortable nights work for Vargas,. never really dropped a round, had no issues with Marquez's southpaw come forward style, he just boxed, moved and walked Marquez onto lead right hands all night, Marquez lost a point in the 6th for uppercutting Vargas in the balls, probably the only round Marquez was winning tbh, Vargas continued to pick up the rounds whilst Marquez's eyes were swollen


Vargas got Marquez out of there in the 11th, hurt Marquez with a 1/2 and opened him up whilst he reeled around the ring, landing at will, must've caught him with 15 unanswered punches, great variety and accuracy before the ref stepped in

Fernando Vargas vs Ronald Winky Wright



Vargas beats Wright by close MD to retain his World Super Welterweight title, razor tight, i never scored but i thought Wright desreved it, he dictated most of the fight, boxing and moving but also walking Vargas down at times, shooting out the southpaw jab and following up with straight lefts to head and body, Vargas struggled to pin him down, he had a little success playing counter puncher but its not his style and he couldn't get off, Wright wouldnt stay still long enough for him to unload, there was no drama in the fight but it was a good watch, Vargas got the nod but i thought he was lucky

handsofstone wrote: ↑17 Jun 2021, 03:53 Fernando Vargas vs Ronald Winky Wright



Vargas beats Wright by close MD to retain his World Super Welterweight title, razor tight, i never scored but i thought Wright desreved it, he dictated most of the fight, boxing and moving but also walking Vargas down at times, shooting out the southpaw jab and following up with straight lefts to head and body, Vargas struggled to pin him down, he had a little success playing counter puncher but its not his style and he couldn't get off, Wright wouldnt stay still long enough for him to unload, there was no drama in the fight but it was a good watch, Vargas got the nod but i thought he was lucky

Watched this myself not too long back mate, I thought Winky won also. Ring generalship was on point.

That was a fun fight to watch. A Ruddock fan could argue that the ref just as easily could have stopped the fight earlier when Morrison was hurt.

Ricardo Mayorga vs Fernando Vargas



Mayorga beats Vargas by MD in a good 12 rounder fought at Super Middleweight, Mayorga came out swinging like a madman swarming all over Vargas and dropped him with a right hand near end of the round, he hurt Vargas again in the 3rd, things slowed a little and Vargas came back into things, he was at his best when working off the jab, Mayorga was always dangerous though especially with that big overhand right

It was a nip/tuck and entertaining to watch, it was all to play for in round 11, looked like the 12th would be the decider but at end of 11th Mayorga put Vargas down again with a right and that sealed Vargas fate, good win for Mayorga

Mike Weaver vs Scott LeDoux



Weaver outpoints LeDoux over 12 in a non title fight, it was a close competitve fight for the most part, both guys similar in style trying to establish the jab, neither giving an inch, Weaver had LeDoux down from a jab in the 6th but somehow ref ruled slip, clear as day, Weaver pulled away in the closing rounds by just jabbing, LeDoux couldnt avoid them, cards were unanimous but too wide IMO

Mike Weaver vs Gerrie Coetzee



Weaver KOs Coetzee in the 13th to retain his World Heavyweight title, good scrap, both men bang up for it, Coetzee took the fight right to Weaver and had plenty success, both men were trading bombs all night, it was a was of attrition and Coetzee faded in the late rounds, his nose was broken and Weaver was starting to pull ahead, still the KO came from nowhere really, in the 13th with Weaver on top and Coetzee fighting on pure heart, Weaver nailed him with a jab then followed it up with a huge right which put Coetzee down for the count

handsofstone wrote: ↑23 Jun 2021, 06:27 Mike Weaver vs Gerrie Coetzee



Weaver KOs Coetzee in the 13th to retain his World Heavyweight title, good scrap, both men bang up for it, Coetzee took the fight right to Weaver and had plenty success, both men were trading bombs all night, it was a was of attrition and Coetzee faded in the late rounds, his nose was broken and Weaver was starting to pull ahead, still the KO came from nowhere really, in the 13th with Weaver on top and Coetzee fighting on pure heart, Weaver nailed him with a jab then followed it up with a huge right which put Coetzee down for the count

one of the better heavyweight fights of the last (nearly 40 years now? bloody hell) few decades

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑23 Jun 2021, 06:58

handsofstone wrote: ↑23 Jun 2021, 06:27 Mike Weaver vs Gerrie Coetzee



Weaver KOs Coetzee in the 13th to retain his World Heavyweight title, good scrap, both men bang up for it, Coetzee took the fight right to Weaver and had plenty success, both men were trading bombs all night, it was a was of attrition and Coetzee faded in the late rounds, his nose was broken and Weaver was starting to pull ahead, still the KO came from nowhere really, in the 13th with Weaver on top and Coetzee fighting on pure heart, Weaver nailed him with a jab then followed it up with a huge right which put Coetzee down for the count

one of the better heavyweight fights of the last (nearly 40 years now? bloody hell) few decades

Aye i enjoyed it, Coetzee is nails

Mike Weaver vs Gerrie Coetzee

These kind of top performances from Gerrie were also why the Lawless-Duff-Barratt partnership were properly on edge when they paid out some big money to bring a possibly 'spent' Coetzee over to London in 1986.

What happens if this big white dude with some heavy shots - and who has faced the best - somehow sticks around and starts firing back at Frank?

The fight was a Bruno blow-out but behind the scenes there was the fear that Coetzee was all wrong for Bruno.

Mike Weaver vs James Tillis



Weaver UDs Tillis over 15 to retain his World Heavyweight title, absolute snoozer, Weaver plodding forward ineffective and Tillis on his bike all night popping out the jab, every round pretty much the same, Weaver got the props from judges and commentators for being on the front foot and Tillis took flak for running all night , poor tactics but as far as punches landed there wasnt much in it, neither man was the effective, Weaver at least pressed but Tillis at least has success with the jab, no complaints from me but no way Weaver dominated, he was less sh1t maybe

Michael Dokes vs Mike Weaver 1+2


Dokes stops Weaver in a round to become World Heavyweight champ, one of the worst stoppages you'll see anywhere, both came out slugging and Weaver was landing some big left hooks but Dokes nailed him with a hook of his own then another sent Weaver down, he got up and Dokes had him backed up on the ropes, he was landing some and missing some, Weaver was still hurt but had his wits about him but for whatever reason the ref jumped in to stop it, horrendous stoppage



Rematch ends in a draw after 15 rounds, Dokes retains his title, looked another harsh one for Weaver, looked to me as if he done enough to win it, was busier in most of the rounds,,walked Dokes down with the jab, kept him on backfoot for long spells, Dokes looked to land the harder combinations but drifted out of the fight and relied on occasional counters, Weaver rocked him in the 9th with a right hand, Dokes landed his best shot about 10 seconds from the finish, a big right, still it ended a draw and Dokes looked fortunate

Pinklon Thomas vs Mike Weaver



Thomas KOs Weaver in the 8th to retain his World Heavyweight title, good scrap, Thomas had Weaver down in the 1st, a two handed flurry forced Weaver down, after that it was both men taking turns to land thudding jabs and letting go hard combinations, at times Weaver was on top then Thomas would take back control


Thomas was taking over in the 7th though busting Weaver up with the jab then in the 8th it was all over, Thomas detonated a right hand on the chin of Weaver and sent him down for the full count

This was one of Thomas' best fights. When he put it all together, he was tough to beat.

Mike Weaver vs Carl Williams



Weaver stops Williams in the 2nd round of a non title Heavyweight fight, typcial slow start from Weaver, Williams was in total control on the front foot jabbing, controlling ring centre and he hurt Weaver in the 2nd, backed him on the ropes and was going for the kill when Weaver uncorked a left hook from hell and dropped Williams heavy, he got up unsteady and holding for dear life when he was forced down a second time, again he got up but his legs were gone and after another messy knockdown it was stopped

I think Coetzee may also have been fighting with a cracked rib against Weaver at some point in the fight.

James "Bonecrusher" Smith vs Mike Weaver 1+2



Smith stops Weaver in the 1st round of a non title fight, he rocked Weaver's legs badly with a right hand and had him pinned on ropes for nearly a minute teeing off lefts and rights before Weaver went down, he got up but his legs were gone, he seemed to compose himself in the corner before the count reached 10 but ref didnt like what he saw and waved it off



Smith outpoints Weaver over 12 in thr rematch, non title fight looked like it could be another 1 round blowout for Smith after a right hand knocked Weaver down, he got up and recovered but lost wide on the cards, he fought mostly on the backfoot tying to use the jab and had a couple of half hearted spurts, Smith walked him down mostly and used clubbing wide hooks or overhand rights, no jabs or crosses, just unloaded both hands whenever up close, looked like he shook Weaver a couple times but couldn't knock him down again and had to settle for a UD

David Haye vs Jean Marc Mormeck

A great fight. Mormeck was coming forward composed, bobbing and weaving with his hands up. Haye was faster and he was outscoring Mormeck on the backfoot. Haye's best shots seemed to go to the bady, as Mormeck's head was protected well. In the 4th Mormeck rocked Haye with a left hook, Haye nearly went down, the ropes saved him, but Mormeck continued the onslaught and, despite he wasn't landing clean, he finally sent Haye down. Yet Haye regained the control immediately. In the 7th Haye hurt Mormeck with a right hook to the temple. Haye followed with a series of swings to the head, Mormeck was down and counted out.

Wayne Braithwaite vs Yoan Pablo Hernandez

A fun fight. The Germany-based Cuban Hernandez faced the US-based Guyanese in Germany. The southpaw Hernandez was dominating early on. Braithwaite was down in the 1st, hurt in the 2nd, but he was fighting back. Hernandez was overconfident, which worked against him severely. At the very end of the 2nd Hernandez was tagged, but he appeared to be stupid enough not to respect Braithwaite's power after that. In the 3rd Hernandez continued the pressure aggressively, there was an exchange of right hooks, where both landed and Braithwaite's one was heavier. Hernandez went down hard, he was hurt badly and couldn't get up, but the corrupt referee helped the hometown fighter to get up! Hernandez was down twice more, so that even the corrupt referee was forced to stop the fight.

Mairis Briedis vs Krzysztof Glowacki

A super-entertaining fight. Glowacki acted like a pu$$y, Briedis was a badass. Glowacki actually hit Briedis to a back of the head and after the ref's interference not once, so the elbow of Briedis can be understood. Glowacki rolled and cried like a goddamn soccer player after that. Briedis got mad and punished Glowacki. The bell affair was total fun.