BoxBuzz wrote:Three greatest miracles of my lifetime.
1. Birth of my daughter Olivia
2. Men walk on the moon
3. Men rescued from Hell
That rescue team in Chile was god sent. And what a great day for 33 men who just returned to the living. If this thing can happen, then any troubles we might think we struggle with, can indeed be overcome. JUST DON"T GIVE UP THE FIGHT!!
IMHO.
kikibalt wrote:Chilean Miner Emerges to Tangled Love Life
Hugh Collins from AOL
(Oct. 13) -- When Yonni Barrios emerged from 69 days underground to cries of "El Doctor," there was none of the fist-pumping celebration that marked the other miners' escape.
This may have something to do with his tangled love life, which made headlines around the world while he was stuck underground attending to the medical needs of his fellow miners.
A trained paramedic, Barrios previously looked after his diabetic mother. While trapped underground, he administered medicine to his fellow miners and vaccinated them against the flu. The other miners called him "Dr. House," after Hugh Laurie's character in the Fox medical drama, which is popular in Chile.
There was also a drama going on in his personal life, which his wife of 28 years discovered along with the rest of the world.
Marta Salinas first sensed something was up when she discovered another woman was also keeping an anxious vigil outside the mine for Barrios.
The discovery prompted a war of words between the two rivals. The mistress, Susana Valenzuela, said she had met Barrios on a training course five years earlier, and that he was planning to leave his wife for her.
Salinas said Valenzuela had "no legitimacy" and refused to address her by name. Initially she stuck with her husband, in spite of his infidelity.
"[Barrios] is my husband. He loves me and I am his devoted wife," Salinas said, according to the New York Post.
That all changed when her husband's rescue became imminent. Barrios reportedly asked both his wife and his mistress to be there to greet him when he emerged from underground.
After that, Salinas was done.
"He asked me to come, but it turns out he also invited the other woman and I have decency," Salinas said before the rescue, according to ABC News. "This is very clear: It's her or me.
"I'm happy because he was saved. It's a miracle from God. But I won't attend the rescue."
As Barrios was hoisted back to the surface, the world watched to see what kind of welcome he would receive. The mistress, Valenzuela, greeted him with a warm embrace.
At least five wives have found themselves dealing with mistresses at the rescue site, The Daily Telegraph said. This isn't just a cause for embarrassment: Some women are fighting over the compensation on offer to the miners.
One miner is said to have had four women fighting over him.
Filed under: World, Weird News
THEHAMMER321 wrote:Bennie good story on Leroy jones, I remember a lot of people compared him to Buster Mathis, because both were overweight and both had good boxing skills.bennie wrote:Leroy Jones missed out on the mysterious quality known as a little bit of luck on a cold night 30 years ago. Leroy took a thumb in the eye from Larry Holmes in the eighth round of their Las Vegas encounter in March 1980 and, while he bravely stayed on his feet, he had to be rescued as the spiteful Holmes teed off on him in a corner. That was it; Leroy’s challenge for the world heavyweight title was over, along with the very rest of his boxing career. Jones, at the age of 29, had suffered a detached retina.
Nobody seems to know what the big Denver man did in his post-boxing years. Leroy certainly kept his nose clean, probably raised a family, probably held down a job. You want to think he was happy; you want to think he did good things. He was "big, strong, tough", said Holmes in 2003. "He was bigger than me. He was 245 pounds, 6ft 5ins or 6ft 6ins, but I was quicker and punched harder." In fact, Jones was surprisingly fluid for such a big man, with surprising speed and ability, but Holmes is one of the greatest heavyweights of all time and he pounded on Jones as he would pound on Muhammad Ali just a few months later. (Forget those who say Holmes held back against Ali, he didn’t.)
You know, Leroy only ever lost to Holmes in 26 fights, which only exarcebates the way his career came to such a sudden end. His best win was a 12-round decision over Mike Weaver in 1978 in Las Vegas, a year before Weaver took Holmes to the well in a fantastic battle at Madison Square Garden. Jones also scored decent wins over Jody Ballard, Larry Frazier and Harry Terrell.
Nobody seems to know how he lived or even how he died earlier this year at the age of 60. We do know that he boxed between 1973 and 1980 and went all the way to a shot at the world heavyweight title. We also know he joined the masses thinking over and over, 'if only'.
http://boxing.fanhouse.com/2010/10/07/f ... ?icid=mainCNorkusJr wrote:Sad story on Wilfredo Benitez posted on Fanhouse a few days ago :
http://boxing.fanhouse.com/2010/10/07/f ... %7C177427
Can anyone tell me why my URL's are coming out on the post as "click on's".
Chuck1052 wrote:In regards to the rescued miners, I can't believe the discipline and courage that it took to survive two or so weeks before it was discovered that they were alive.
- Chuck Johnston
That's a great thing that you're doing Rick. So many fighters have been forgotten over the years. They deserve to be remembered and they deserve to have some input. Good luck with that project.Rick Farris wrote:Bringing Classic American West Coast Boxing to Life . . .
We talk about it, we write it, we share our photos, programs and memories.
Thru this thread, many a West Coast fighter has been resurrected, their image fresh in our minds.
This thread can bring a dead warrior to life, because it can stimulate one's recall, paint a picture.
What I'm going to do, with a little help from my partners and friends, is put as many of our heros in front of a camera.
We are going to ask them every conceivable question, even the ones they may not be comfortable answering.
We'll give them a chance to leave their answers to important questions regarding their careers, leave their answers to history.
We want them to have a forum to tell their side of the story, right or wrong, honest or dishonest, it's THEIR side of things.
Mostly, what we really want to do, is just have the chance to sit down and talk boxing with those who did it best.
We really just want to indulge our passions, and use this little project as a good excuse to do so.
But we are not being selfish with our goals, we're going to share it with the world.
We will make up the rules as we go along, and we'll do it as we please.
You are all as much a part of this as you choose to be, or not to be. I'll ask you guys, what do we want to know about this one?
You are the real experts, nobody knows boxing better. After we finish each interview, we will know even more.
As we wind down our third year of posting on this thread, Looking us right in the face via a camera lens.
They'll tell us what we want to know, as they would like for us to know it.
-Rick Farris
There is obviously no quit in these guys.Rick Farris wrote:Chuck1052 wrote:In regards to the rescued miners, I can't believe the discipline and courage that it took to survive two or so weeks before it was discovered that they were alive.
- Chuck Johnston
Yeah, talk about tough men.
Man, that's sad. I've heard before that he was having problems. I wasn't aware that it was that bad. His sister is an Angel!CNorkusJr wrote:Sad story on Wilfredo Benitez posted on Fanhouse a few days ago :
http://boxing.fanhouse.com/2010/10/07/f ... %7C177427
Can anyone tell me why my URL's are not coming out on the post as "click on's".
Rick Farris wrote:"Not a mark on him . . ."kikibalt wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF2A4ZJLn-4Rick Farris wrote:
What a war! Typical Mando Muniz, and typical of what we were used to nearly every thursday night.
I remember this one real well. Remember the coins, Frank? Good fights resulted in the ring showered with coins, sometimes bills.
Rick, listen to what Randy Gordon says about money flying into the ring after Frankie fight with Juan Escobar
This fight was so good. I always love the announcers perfect timing.
With less than a minute left in the final round, they point to Escobar's unmarked face.
Baltazar had tagged him solid thruout the last five rounds. "Not a mark on him, he's got such great skin and a strong chin . . ."
A few seconds later, BOOM!!! Frankie cracks a right hook off Escobar's jaw and the fighter hits the deck.
Blood now flowing from a cut that Frankie will send him home with.
Perfect skin? Strong chin? . . . My ass!
We were spoiled Rick. It was a great time for boxing in L.A. wasn't it?Rick Farris wrote:
What a war! Typical Mando Muniz, and typical of what we were used to nearly every thursday night.
I remember this one real well. Remember the coins, Frank? Good fights resulted in the ring showered with coins, sometimes bills.
Ramon Tiscareno will be inducted into the CBHOF next year....kikibalt wrote: Ramon Tiscareno
Tiscareno was one of the fighters living in the Maravilla Projects in the early '50's.
Ramon was a good boxer but without much of a punch.
division welterweight
country Mexico
residence Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico
won 56 (KO 15) + lost 14 (KO 8) + drawn 4 = 74
rounds boxed 536 KO% 20.27
1958-02-01 148 Karl Heinz Guder 149 21-4-1
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L KO 5 10
~ time: 2:59 ~
1957-11-16 147½ Vince Martinez 148½ 57-5-0
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L TKO 6 10
~ time: 0:29 | referee: Frankie Van ~
1957-08-24 144½ Willie Morton 143 9-0-0
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Jimmy Wilson 96-95 | judge: Frankie Van 96-94 | judge: Charley Randolph 97-94 ~
Morton was knocked down for a two-count in the 1st round.
1957-08-05 Steve Tony 5-4-0
San Bernardino, California, United States W KO 1
1957-04-27 146 Alvaro Gutierrez 146 12-4-1
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W TKO 6 10
~ time: 2:53 | referee: John Thomas ~
Gutierrez was halted, due to a cut over one of his eyes.
1956-10-06 David Cervantes 12-11-2
Monterrey, Nuevo León, Mexico W KO 9 10
1956-09-24 Gilberto Holguin 11-3-4
Auditorio Municipal, Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico W UD 10 10
1956-05-12 145½ Art Ramponi 137½ 21-9-1
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W UD 10 10
1956-02-07 148 Art Aragon 146 69-16-5
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L KO 2 10
~ time: 2:38 | referee: Abe Roth ~
Tiscareno floored Aragon for an 8-count in the second round, but Art then put Tiscareno down twice, the second time for the full count.
1955-11-12 146 Henry Davis 139 50-20-5
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W UD 10 10
1955-10-22 147½ Dick Goldstein 147 27-9-2
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W UD 10 10
Goldstein was knocked down in the 9th round.
1955-10-03 Julio Cesar Jimenez 33-22-4
Auditorio Municipal, Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico W UD 10 10
1955-09-15 145½ Carlos Chavez 142½ 66-30-9
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Tommy Hart 57-53 | judge: Jack McDonald 57-53 | judge: Mushy Callahan 59-51 ~
1955-08-18 146½ Woody Winslow 151 19-26-7
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L TKO 3 10
~ time: 2:28 | referee: Lee Grossman ~
Tiscareno was knocked down six times in the 3rd round.
1955-07-09 146 Philip Kim 148 41-12-3
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W UD 10 10
1955-05-24 El Conscripto 27-20-4
Mexicali, Baja California, Mexico W PTS 10 10
1955-04-24 David Cervantes 5-8-2
Mexicali, Baja California, Mexico W KO 8
1955-03-22 147½ Art Soto 152½ 37-19-4
Arena, Ocean Park, California, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Mushy Callahan 56½-53½ | judge: Charley Randolph 56-54 | judge: Jimmy Wallace 57-53 ~
1955-02-21 146 Giuseppe Fusaro 146 38-21-16
Civic Center, Butte, Montana, United States W UD 10 10
1955-02-03 148 Ernie Greer 147 24-19-11
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: George Latka 58-51 | judge: Frankie Van 58-51 | judge: Frank Holborow 56½-52½ ~
1955-01-18 147 Lou Gage 149½ 11-2-0
Arena, Ocean Park, California, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: John Thomas 57-53 | judge: Frankie Van 59½-50½ | judge: Tommy Hart 58-52 ~
1954-12-28 146½ Ernie Greer 150 24-19-10
Arena, Ocean Park, California, United States D PTS 10 10
~ referee: Russ Bradford 55-55 ~
1954-11-23 146½ Frankie Ray 146 3-2-0
Arena, Ocean Park, California, United States W RTD 6 10
Ray was down in the 4th round, his corner stopped the bout after the 6th round.
1954-10-18 145¾ Gerald Dreyer 149½ 38-5-2
St. Nicholas Arena, New York, New York, United States L TKO 1 10
Tiscareno was down three times triggering an automatic stoppage.
1954-07-19 144½ Mario Trigo 139¼ 62-42-11
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Dynamite Jackson 58½-51½ | judge: Joe Stone 58-52 | judge: Reggie Gilmore 58-52 ~
1954-06-28 145 Giampaolo Melis 146 29-6-2
Civic Center, Butte, Montana, United States W UD 10 10
Melis was knocked down in the 10th round
1954-04-27 147½ Lou Gage 148 10-1-0
Memorial Auditorium, Sacramento, California, United States W PTS 10 10
1954-03-29 147 Emerson Butcher 145 26-17-11
Civic Center, Butte, Montana, United States W UD 10 10
"Neither battler was visibly marked during the 10-rounder, in which no knockdowns were recorded. Tiscareno piled up points with his sharper punching...." (United Press)
1954-02-22 Bill Sudduth 41-12-5
Civic Center, Butte, Montana, United States W SD 10 10
1953-12-14 143¼ Chu Chu Jiminez 142 26-19-7
Arena, South Gate, California, United States W TKO 6 10
~ time: 0:55 | referee: Lee Grossman ~
Bout was stopped because of a badly cut eye.
1953-11-03 141½ Joe Fisher 141 26-8-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 2 10
~ time: 0:45 | referee: Joe Stone ~
1953-10-20 Freddie Herman 138 42-34-8
Sacramento, California, United States W PTS 10 10
1953-09-15 141 Mario Trigo 138 60-37-9
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L MD 10 10
~ referee: Charley Randolph 54-56½ | judge: Mushy Callahan 54½-55½ | judge: Lee Grossman 55-55 ~
1953-08-11 139½ Santiago Esteban 138½ 20-2-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W TKO 7 10
~ time: 2:24 | referee: Joe Stone ~
Esteban was knocked down for a nine-count in the 6th round. He was knocked down once more in the 7th round.
1953-06-23 138½ Santiago Esteban 140 20-1-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W MD 10 10
~ referee: Reggie Gilmore 56½-53½ | judge: Jimmy Wallace 55-55 | judge: Jimmy Wilson 56-54 ~
1953-05-19 141 Freddie Herman 141½ 39-31-5
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W MD 10 10
~ referee: Mushy Callahan 57-53 | judge: Lee Grossman 55-55 | judge: Reggie Gilmore 57-53 ~
Tiscareno was knocked down in the 1st round, for a one-count.
1953-03-14 142 Archie Whitewater 146 46-17-5
Municipal Auditorium, Eureka, California, United States W PTS 10 10
1952-12-06 Joey Gurrola 15-3-6
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W TKO 10 10
~ time: 0:55 | referee: Mushy Callahan 46-43 ~
Gurrola was knocked down twice in the 9th round.
1952-11-19 Jose Galacia 4-0-0
Auditorio Municipal, Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico W PTS 8 8
1952-10-06 136 Eddie Chavez 138 40-6-3
American Legion, Butte, Montana, United States L KO 5 10
~ time: 1:10 ~
1952-09-05 Jorge Macias 9-8-2
Mexicali, Baja California, Mexico W KO 9
1952-08-23 135½ Carmen Venuto 135½ 5-2-1
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W PTS 6 6
Tiscareno was knocked down in the 4th round, Venuto in the 5th.
1952-08-08 David Cervantes
Mexicali, Baja California, Mexico W PTS 10 10
1952-06-14 Babe Ruelas 2-4-0
Mexico City, Distrito Federal, Mexico L KO 4
1952-05-17 Chico Escamilla 6-3-1
Mexico City, Distrito Federal, Mexico W KO 3
1952-04-15 141 Oscar Price 135 10-14-4
Armory, Albuquerque, New Mexico, United States L SD 10 10
~ referee: Jim Cleary | judge: Johnny Letto | judge: Johnny Schubert ~
1951-09-26 Baby Face Mathis 30-17-8
Bull Ring, Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico W PTS 10 10
1951-08-21 Bobby Rodriguez
Bull Ring, Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico W KO 2 10
~ time: 2:22 ~
1951-07-18 Hank Davis 22-9-7
Phoenix, Arizona, United States W PTS 6 6
1951-07-03 Ray Perez 6-0-4
Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico W PTS 6 6
1951-06-15 Ray Perez 6-0-3
El Paso, Texas, United States D PTS 6 6
1951-04-20 Jose Roque 0-1-0
Acapulco, Guerrero, Mexico W KO 3
1951-04-18 Pancho Velasco 1-5-0
Mexico City, Distrito Federal, Mexico W KO 3
1951-03-31 Baby Vasquez 7-4-0
Mexico City, Distrito Federal, Mexico L PTS 10 10
1951-01-24 136¼ Ray Perez 138 4-0-2
Coliseum, El Paso, Texas, United States L PTS 10 10
1950-12-06 Rudy Valdez 0-2-0
Auditorio Municipal, Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico W TKO 3 6
~ referee: Bobby Fernandez ~
1950-11-08 Jorge Cid 0-3-0
Auditorio Municipal, Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico W PTS 6 6
1950-10-18 Tony Olivas 6-5-2
Auditorio Municipal, Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico W PTS 6 6
1950-10-03 Jorge Cid 0-2-0
Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico W PTS 6 6
1950-09-20 Juan Leanos 7-5-0
Torreon, Coahuila de Zaragoza, Mexico L PTS 10 10
1950-09-13 Francisco Babe Escoria 0-1-0
Torreon, Coahuila de Zaragoza, Mexico W PTS 10 10
1950-09-08 Ray Perez 4-0-0
Bull Ring, Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico D PTS 6 6
1950-08-28 Johnny Hart 6-2-2
Phoenix, Arizona, United States W PTS 6 6
1950-08-16 133 Ray Perez 135½ 3-0-0
El Paso County Coliseum, El Paso, Texas, United States L SD 6 6
1950-08-09 126 Marcus Vasquez 127 12-14-5
Softball Park, Phoenix, Arizona, United States D PTS 6 6
1950-07-28 Jorge Cid 0-1-0
Bull Ring, Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico W SD 6 6
1950-05-07 Alex Fimbres
Superior, Arizona, United States W PTS 6 6
1950-03-07 Enrique Estrada 2-3-2
Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico W PTS 6 6
1950-02-08 Marcus Vasquez 7-10-2
Phoenix, Arizona, United States W PTS 6 6
1950-02-08 Jose Arguelles 0-2-0
Auditorio Municipal, Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico W PTS 6 6
1950-01-03 Enrique Estrada 2-1-1
Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico W PTS 6 6
1949-12-20 Gerardo Muniz 7-4-1
Auditorio Municipal, Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico W UD 6 6
1949-12-12 133 Bobby Satchell 130 3-3-2
San Agustin Arena, Tucson, Arizona, United States W PTS 4 4
1949-07-11 Packy McFarland 3-0-1
Sports Center, Tucson, Arizona, United States L KO 2 6
~ time: 2:25 | referee: Sonny Valdez ~
I will try to upload the articles here soongarcia seems to be making a nice little niche for himself as a trainer.Chuck1052 wrote:In today's edition of the Ventura County Star, there is an article about Antonio Margarito, who is being trained by Robert Garcia in Oxnard for an upcoming bout with Manny Pacquiao.
- Chuck Johnston
CNorkusJr wrote:I must tell you that the California Boxing HOF must be commended for their efforts in recognizing their Boxers from the past for their gallant efforts not only in the ring but outside the ring for shaping others for the future of boxing as well.
Not all Boxers can be champions or top contenders and for each that were, there were dozens upon dozens of others who gave their heart and soul to the sport. Some fighters were just 4, 6 or 8 round fighters who trained hard just hoping to get the call to be on the undercard of a great line-up. Many of these fighters had been call heroes by family and followers, all hoping that they make it big, but none-the less were revered by their supporters.
Not only boxers, but the trainers, cornermen,officials who tirelessly gave of themselves for the trade. Some not getting paid (I can think of a few cutmen who didnt take money from young pros just starting out).
Each keeping the sport of boxing what it is.
Kudos to the CBHOF in their efforts in recognizing these men and women.
kikibalt wrote:
Henry Harris, Al Weill and Roy "Cut-N-Shoot" Harris
Presser for Harris fight with Floyd Patterson
1958
