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Re: Copperbox bill RBR
Posted: 15 Feb 2014, 18:57
by lefty
gilgamesh wrote:funtime wrote:columbo wrote:I think Wlad would absolutely flatten Fury
Wlad would be petrified of the big idiot.
I love the man. So silly he could eff his whole career up, but it makes the man worth watching every single time.
I think Wlad would KO Tyson in 9 rounds. He would be mostly defensive while Tyson was aggressive in the early rounds, winning his fair share of them, but when he notices Tyson starting to tire, he'd start nailing him with powershots and take him out.
You think Tyson would stand up for 9 rounds to wlads power?! lol
Re: Copperbox bill RBR
Posted: 15 Feb 2014, 18:58
by kev788
Did anyone hear where mark burgess announced Tyson fury from, all I could hear was Palm Beach.....? Not really important but that'll piss me off all night otherwise lol
Re: Copperbox bill RBR
Posted: 15 Feb 2014, 18:58
by keithmoonhangover
I love Fury, but I wish he'd stop calling out Wlad, when he's turned the fight down at least twice already.
Re: Copperbox bill RBR
Posted: 15 Feb 2014, 18:59
by expe
columbo wrote:funtime wrote:columbo wrote:I think Wlad would absolutely flatten Fury
Wlad would be petrified of the big idiot.
I love the man. So silly he could eff his whole career up, but it makes the man worth watching every single time.
He might be but as soon as Wlad lands the right hand Fury will be flat on his back.
Lesser men than Tyson Fury have stayed on their feet after taking the right hand and if he turned it into a tear up Wlad would be struggling, all he does on the inside is hold, I'm not sure he'd be able to do that to Tyson.
Re: Copperbox bill RBR
Posted: 15 Feb 2014, 19:00
by JimStone
Palm Beach, Cannes. It's where he's been training.
Re: Copperbox bill RBR
Posted: 15 Feb 2014, 19:00
by stevieb_8006
peter fury is a breath of fresh air.
Re: Copperbox bill RBR
Posted: 15 Feb 2014, 19:01
by tommo100
wlad vs Tyson would be a horror show,wlad keeps him at range,tyson gasses after 8 rounds and wlad ko`s him with the right hand
Re: Copperbox bill RBR
Posted: 15 Feb 2014, 19:02
by lefty
expe wrote:columbo wrote:funtime wrote:
Wlad would be petrified of the big idiot.
I love the man. So silly he could eff his whole career up, but it makes the man worth watching every single time.
He might be but as soon as Wlad lands the right hand Fury will be flat on his back.
Lesser men than Tyson Fury have stayed on their feet after taking the right hand and if he turned it into a tear up Wlad would be struggling, all he does on the inside is hold, I'm not sure he'd be able to do that to Tyson.
Tyson has been buzzed by Abell, Put down heavily by a 210 Cunningham, Put down by Pajic who isnt a puncher and hurt by Firtha aswell. He'll go down heavily against Wlad.
Re: Copperbox bill RBR
Posted: 15 Feb 2014, 19:02
by lefty
expe wrote:columbo wrote:funtime wrote:
Wlad would be petrified of the big idiot.
I love the man. So silly he could eff his whole career up, but it makes the man worth watching every single time.
He might be but as soon as Wlad lands the right hand Fury will be flat on his back.
Lesser men than Tyson Fury have stayed on their feet after taking the right hand and if he turned it into a tear up Wlad would be struggling, all he does on the inside is hold, I'm not sure he'd be able to do that to Tyson.
Tyson has been buzzed by Abell, Put down heavily by a 210 Cunningham, Put down by Pajic who isnt a puncher and hurt by Firtha aswell. He'll go down heavily against Wlad.
Re: Copperbox bill RBR
Posted: 15 Feb 2014, 19:02
by JC
columbo wrote:expe wrote:columbo wrote:I think Wlad would absolutely flatten Fury
Wlad would be scared shitless, Fury's bigger than him and can punch, he's cautious against smaller men who have no chance of beating him, he can't fight on the inside and if he wants to have a wrestle, I doubt Tyson would be bothered. Plus he normally leans on opponents to sap their strength, he can't do that to a man taller than him.
Wach was bigger than Wlad.
Yup.
Lewis/Grant, Wlad/Wach, Lewis/Vitali show that when you match these behemoths with someone of their own size it can often make for a better fight.
Wlad takes advantage of smaller guys because he can, and the refs allow him to. Doesn't mean that's the only thing he can do.
Re: Copperbox bill RBR
Posted: 15 Feb 2014, 19:02
by lefty
If only Johnson could fight aswell as he talks.
Re: Copperbox bill RBR
Posted: 15 Feb 2014, 19:03
by rhino222
Aden wrote:Palm Beach, Cannes. It's where he's been training.
more like baked bean and corned beef cans!
Re: Copperbox bill RBR
Posted: 15 Feb 2014, 19:03
by kev788
Aden wrote:Palm Beach, Cannes. It's where he's been training.
Cheers fella, just couldn't make out the last part.
Re: Copperbox bill RBR
Posted: 15 Feb 2014, 19:04
by JimStone
That people can watch that and arrive at the conclusion Fury would be a threat to Wlad truly baffles me. So many Brits are blinkered and struggle with the concept of levels.
Re: Copperbox bill RBR
Posted: 15 Feb 2014, 19:05
by keithmoonhangover
Gonna be a good fight this one.
Re: Copperbox bill RBR
Posted: 15 Feb 2014, 19:05
by rhino222
but he will get up again. . . And get up angry.
Re: Copperbox bill RBR
Posted: 15 Feb 2014, 19:05
by lefty
Aden wrote:That people can watch that and arrive at the conclusion Fury would be a threat to Wlad truly baffles me. So many Brits are blinkered and struggle with the concept of levels.
Pulev would beat Fury IMO
Re: Copperbox bill RBR
Posted: 15 Feb 2014, 19:06
by lefty
rhino222 wrote:but he will get up again. . . And get up angry.
And then proceed to get flattened again.
Re: Copperbox bill RBR
Posted: 15 Feb 2014, 19:06
by Yes We Can
columbo wrote:Tyson has been buzzed by Abell, Put down heavily by a 210 Cunningham, Put down by Pajic who isnt a puncher and hurt by Firtha aswell. He'll go down heavily against Wlad.
Pulev was put down by Abell, he's considered a threat to wlad.
Fury is Vulnerable no doubt. And i do favour flad over him by soime margine, but his whole ersona, mentallity, charisma let alone style would make Wlad shit a brick the whole way through the fight.
If David Haye can take the shots, so can Tyson. If he goes down he gets back up.
Re: Copperbox bill RBR
Posted: 15 Feb 2014, 19:08
by lefty
funtime wrote:columbo wrote:Tyson has been buzzed by Abell, Put down heavily by a 210 Cunningham, Put down by Pajic who isnt a puncher and hurt by Firtha aswell. He'll go down heavily against Wlad.
Pulev was put down by Abell, he's considered a threat to wlad.
Fury is Vulnerable no doubt. And i do favour flad over him by soime margine, but his whole ersona, mentallity, charisma let alone style would make Wlad poo a brick the whole way through the fight.
If David Haye can take the shots, so can Tyson. If he goes down he gets back up.
If you watch the Pulev fight against Abell, it wasnt a legit knockdown. It was a legs getting tangled issue.
Re: Copperbox bill RBR
Posted: 15 Feb 2014, 19:08
by HomicideHenry
Round One- Looked, least of all to me, as though it were a sparring session in the gym; neither man doing much, but clearly Fury was in control of the tempo of the round, even though in my eyes he gave an impression he wasn't all that much interested in Joey Abell at all.
Round Two- Action picks up a bit, but clearly Fury was in control of the tempo with Abell showing signs of desperation in trying to get passed the reach of Fury
Round Three- Abell, still desperate, tries to make a fight of it but gets floored twice for his efforts; in my eyes, even at Tyson Fury's worst shape, it's clear he's head and shoulders above journeymen
Round Four- Abell, swinging for fences, again gets floored twice for his efforts; referee stops the action so that Abell would suffer no more punishment--- in the end, an entertaining excercise but it's safe to say Fury has tougher nights in the gym with cousin Hughie and Eddie Chambers.
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Though this fight doesn't tell me much, it was nice to see Tyson back into the ring again. Considering what he's been through in passed few months: Two cancellations with Haye, his home being burnt down, his son being sick, his wife having to have emergency surgery, opponent change at the last minute (figuratively speaking), it's nice to see him come out on top. True--- had he fought someone a little better, in shape he is in, he would of had some serious issues to contend with--- but even Eddie Chambers will attest, Fury is better than people think.
I can't help but review the fight over in my mind, that Fury didn't really have to upload that many punches in this fight to end it. Two-three punches at a time and Abell kissed canvas. Is it just me, or does it seem Fury's punching power is developing even more? Or is it that Abell just doesn't have a good chin? Maybe it is both--- but was nice to see Tyson get hit clean a time or two, and not show much sign of being hurt either. When 6'5" 250 pound men land flush, and you can remain cool and collective, I think it shows that Tyson is coming into his own a bit--- he's taken a tougher road than people want to give him credit for.
Re: Copperbox bill RBR
Posted: 15 Feb 2014, 19:09
by n1ebf
columbo wrote:Fury is getting knocked out when he really steps up.
steps up where?? the heavyweight wilderness? The consensus seems to be that Wlad is the only good "champion material" out there. Cunningham was a competent, seasoned, world level operator, just too small. Hence Tyson beat him. Fury will be World Champ one day, imo.
Re: Copperbox bill RBR
Posted: 15 Feb 2014, 19:09
by jameswilson
Aden wrote:That people can watch that and arrive at the conclusion Fury would be a threat to Wlad truly baffles me. So many Brits are blinkered and struggle with the concept of levels.
It's about 3 people on the whole British board that think that so don't lumber all of us with those guys. I'd imagine more than 3 Americans who post in the current scene will believe Wlad can lose to some obscure Yank.
Re: Copperbox bill RBR
Posted: 15 Feb 2014, 19:10
by lefty
HomicideHenry wrote:Round One- Looked, least of all to me, as though it were a sparring session in the gym; neither man doing much, but clearly Fury was in control of the tempo of the round, even though in my eyes he gave an impression he wasn't all that much interested in Joey Abell at all.
Round Two- Action picks up a bit, but clearly Fury was in control of the tempo with Abell showing signs of desperation in trying to get passed the reach of Fury
Round Three- Abell, still desperate, tries to make a fight of it but gets floored twice for his efforts; in my eyes, even at Tyson Fury's worst shape, it's clear he's head and shoulders above journeymen
Round Four- Abell, swinging for fences, again gets floored twice for his efforts; referee stops the action so that Abell would suffer no more punishment--- in the end, an entertaining excercise but it's safe to say Fury has tougher nights in the gym with cousin Hughie and Eddie Chambers.
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Though this fight doesn't tell me much, it was nice to see Tyson back into the ring again. Considering what he's been through in passed few months: Two cancellations with Haye, his home being burnt down, his son being sick, his wife having to have emergency surgery, opponent change at the last minute (figuratively speaking), it's nice to see him come out on top. True--- had he fought someone a little better, in shape he is in, he would of had some serious issues to contend with--- but even Eddie Chambers will attest, Fury is better than people think.
I can't help but review the fight over in my mind, that Fury didn't really have to upload that many punches in this fight to end it. Two-three punches at a time and Abell kissed canvas. Is it just me, or does it seem Fury's punching power is developing even more? Or is it that Abell just doesn't have a good chin? Maybe it is both--- but was nice to see Tyson get hit clean a time or two, and not show much sign of being hurt either. When 6'5" 250 pound men land flush, and you can remain cool and collective, I think it shows that Tyson is coming into his own a bit--- he's taken a tougher road than people want to give him credit for.
Abell was knocked out in a round by Arreola. He was also knocked out by Pulev in about the same time as Fury just did, and Pulev isnt a puncher.
Re: Copperbox bill RBR
Posted: 15 Feb 2014, 19:10
by mrbishi
Have ta say chambers is doing a good job on the mic.