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thepocketrocket wrote:What time is the weigh in?

1pm I think

Boxerbeetle wrote:

thepocketrocket wrote:What time is the weigh in?

1pm I think

Good man

This sort of stuff seems part and parcel of boxing events now. Gloves are wrong, "I want the home dressing room", bouncy canvas. Fighters seem to be coming up with ready made excuses prior to a fight. What ever happened to "He was the better fighter on the day"??? One of the main issues with a unification fight is on who comes out to the ring second, but that seems to have been sorted very early on.

expe wrote:

MightyWarrior wrote:Carl is probably on edge as he's starving himself to make weight...he looks huge for the weight, but i actually don't think he looks as drained as I was expecting - weigh in today will be interesting ....I'm starting to sway back to Carl winning this, but really hard to know for sure, if he's weight drained, then the McGuigens are making a monumental mistake taking on a hard hitting maniac like Quigg..

He was probably only a lb or so over yesterday anyway. If there's anyone that's struggling I'd say it's Quigg, every time I see him training he's got the sweatsuit on.

Ii it general opinion that Frampton is bigger than Quigg? I'd say it was the other way around, Quigg looks a little bigger to me.

Ricky_ wrote:

expe wrote:

MightyWarrior wrote:Carl is probably on edge as he's starving himself to make weight...he looks huge for the weight, but i actually don't think he looks as drained as I was expecting - weigh in today will be interesting ....I'm starting to sway back to Carl winning this, but really hard to know for sure, if he's weight drained, then the McGuigens are making a monumental mistake taking on a hard hitting maniac like Quigg..

He was probably only a lb or so over yesterday anyway. If there's anyone that's struggling I'd say it's Quigg, every time I see him training he's got the sweatsuit on.

Ii it general opinion that Frampton is bigger than Quigg? I'd say it was the other way around, Quigg looks a little bigger to me.

always seemed that way to me, too

Counter-puncher wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:

expe wrote: He was probably only a lb or so over yesterday anyway. If there's anyone that's struggling I'd say it's Quigg, every time I see him training he's got the sweatsuit on.

Ii it general opinion that Frampton is bigger than Quigg? I'd say it was the other way around, Quigg looks a little bigger to me.

always seemed that way to me, too

X2

G0mez wrote:Barry, Shane, Jake ? and Blain McGuigan on the Frampton entourage payroll. Then I read that McGuigan's daughter is a secretary or something too?

It must be eyewatering the expenses bill for this gig. All those flights/trains/hotels/meals coming out of Cyclone kitty.

Then again Frampton likened himself to the band U2 yesterday in the popularity stakes, so he must have billions to spend.

But Cyclone are joing promoters aren't they? Matchrooms staff have to get paid too. The promoters money is not separate to the fighters purses?

With hindsight, how Fury boxed, you can see why they got upset with the canvas. Peter said it was like a double bed.

dbf wrote:

G0mez wrote:Barry, Shane, Jake ? and Blain McGuigan on the Frampton entourage payroll. Then I read that McGuigan's daughter is a secretary or something too?

It must be eyewatering the expenses bill for this gig. All those flights/trains/hotels/meals coming out of Cyclone kitty.

Then again Frampton likened himself to the band U2 yesterday in the popularity stakes, so he must have billions to spend.

But Cyclone are joing promoters aren't they? Matchrooms staff have to get paid too. The promoters money is not separate to the fighters purses?

Why does 1 guy need all those people ? there are as many cyclone employees as matchroom employees it would seem.

But one stable has 30-40 world, Euro and British level televised fighters... and the other has basically one.

It's like running a jumbo jet with one passenger. All that staff for one guy. Whereas Matchroom has the same amount of staff but an endless list of fighters - so the annual staff bill is evenly distributed across numerous events, rather than just one or two fighter's purses.

Most fighters pay their trainer, their spars and any associated meals/flights and that's it. Some have a separate manager/ agent on top. But I fear Frampton's income is running a whole company - because I dont see any other cyclone fighter tipping in large amounts of money.

Maybe I dont have all the facts, maybe they have business on the side and it's a part-time thing with Carl? who knows.

More i watch the interviews ect .. The more i think if its coming down to sheer determination Quiggs the winner ,,, They have tried to put Quigg of his game all along , its par for the course , and even the trainers getting digs at each other can count ,, its quite simple wind the opposite trainer up , get him to want to win more than anything , and often watch him pass his nerves on to his fighter . . Joe especielly seems to have let them rattled him , but i think he's too profesional to let it matter .

Frampton has made comments Quigg is'nt the sharpest tool in the shed , and he probably is'nt has intllegent has Frampton , but he don't care , he's focused , he's let Framptom have all the concesions he wants ,, but at that final meet , he certainly had a steely determination about him , and my guess is he will not concede anymore , he may be told too from Joe or Eddie , but he himself would not budge .. The problem Eddie has is Frampton is trying a wind up .. But Barry thinks its he's opportunity to let the world know what a good no nonsence manager he is , and he could'nt be trusted not to pull the pin ..

Personaly i think Frampton may off outsmarted himself , and wound Quigg up , I look at then and think if Quigg is losing , he is so one sighted and probably not has smart has some , that he will just dig deep , refuse to believe he's in trouble and battle it out ,, Frampton , dunno if the shoes on the other foot , he's more intelligent and may just think himself out of it ... 50-50 but if it goes to the trenches my moneys on quigg , I just think he'll have that little bit more resolve about him , Frampton needs the mid games , Quigg does'nt .. But we'll see , I'm not picking a winner i don't wat to jinx any of them ha ha

G0mez wrote:

dbf wrote:

G0mez wrote:Barry, Shane, Jake ? and Blain McGuigan on the Frampton entourage payroll. Then I read that McGuigan's daughter is a secretary or something too?

It must be eyewatering the expenses bill for this gig. All those flights/trains/hotels/meals coming out of Cyclone kitty.

Then again Frampton likened himself to the band U2 yesterday in the popularity stakes, so he must have billions to spend.

But Cyclone are joing promoters aren't they? Matchrooms staff have to get paid too. The promoters money is not separate to the fighters purses?

Why does 1 guy need all those people ? there are as many cyclone employees as matchroom employees it would seem.

But one stable has 30-40 world, Euro and British level televised fighters... and the other has basically one.

It's like running a jumbo jet with one passenger. All that staff for one guy. Whereas Matchroom has the same amount of staff but an endless list of fighters - so the annual staff bill is evenly distributed across numerous events, rather than just one or two fighter's purses.

Most fighters pay their trainer, their spars and any associated meals/flights and that's it. Some have a separate manager/ agent on top. But I fear Frampton's income is running a whole FAMILY- because I dont see any other cyclone fighter tipping in large amounts of money.

Maybe I dont have all the facts, maybe they have business on the side and it's a part-time thing with Carl? who knows.

fixed, #gravytrain

The more the weeks gone on the more I've been gutted about not getting a ticket.....


...then I heard the band at the weigh in! Perhaps I will enjoy it more in the pub!

G0mez wrote:

dbf wrote:

G0mez wrote:Barry, Shane, Jake ? and Blain McGuigan on the Frampton entourage payroll. Then I read that McGuigan's daughter is a secretary or something too?

It must be eyewatering the expenses bill for this gig. All those flights/trains/hotels/meals coming out of Cyclone kitty.

Then again Frampton likened himself to the band U2 yesterday in the popularity stakes, so he must have billions to spend.

But Cyclone are joing promoters aren't they? Matchrooms staff have to get paid too. The promoters money is not separate to the fighters purses?

Why does 1 guy need all those people ? there are as many cyclone employees as matchroom employees it would seem.

But one stable has 30-40 world, Euro and British level televised fighters... and the other has basically one.

It's like running a jumbo jet with one passenger. All that staff for one guy. Whereas Matchroom has the same amount of staff but an endless list of fighters - so the annual staff bill is evenly distributed across numerous events, rather than just one or two fighter's purses.

Most fighters pay their trainer, their spars and any associated meals/flights and that's it. Some have a separate manager/ agent on top. But I fear Frampton's income is running a whole company - because I dont see any other cyclone fighter tipping in large amounts of money.

Maybe I dont have all the facts, maybe they have business on the side and it's a part-time thing with Carl? who knows.

Frampton may have a slice of the action at the gym where Shane McGuigan coaches very wealthy corporate people.

Barry McGuigan looked like Neil Kinnock with the fist pumping at the weigh in.

The closer it gets to the fight, the more I want Quigg to do a number on him.

The McGuigan's are wolves in sheeps clothing. Barry had/has business interests in Kent, involved with some real scum.

Weigh in - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ_WJ8iGhwI

lillywhite14 wrote:The closer it gets to the fight, the more I want Quigg to do a number on him.

The McGuigan's are wolves in sheeps clothing. Barry had/has business interests in Kent, involved with some real scum.

Tell us a bit more, please.

Counter-puncher wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:

expe wrote: He was probably only a lb or so over yesterday anyway. If there's anyone that's struggling I'd say it's Quigg, every time I see him training he's got the sweatsuit on.

Ii it general opinion that Frampton is bigger than Quigg? I'd say it was the other way around, Quigg looks a little bigger to me.

always seemed that way to me, too

Observation that might be nothing...

Frampton's head/skull is a lot bigger than Quigg's. That's got to make a difference to weight. Quigg's body looks bigger on fight nights and he seems to do the weight easier. After his last fight Carl talked about moving up...

palooka wrote:

lillywhite14 wrote:The closer it gets to the fight, the more I want Quigg to do a number on him.

The McGuigan's are wolves in sheeps clothing. Barry had/has business interests in Kent, involved with some real scum.

Tell us a bit more, please.

He signed a contract with Eddie?

Ricky_ wrote:

palooka wrote:

lillywhite14 wrote:The closer it gets to the fight, the more I want Quigg to do a number on him.

The McGuigan's are wolves in sheeps clothing. Barry had/has business interests in Kent, involved with some real scum.

Tell us a bit more, please.

He signed a contract with Eddie?

Ricky_ wrote:

palooka wrote:

lillywhite14 wrote:The closer it gets to the fight, the more I want Quigg to do a number on him.

The McGuigan's are wolves in sheeps clothing. Barry had/has business interests in Kent, involved with some real scum.

Tell us a bit more, please.

He signed a contract with Eddie?

very good

G0mez wrote:"Making Weight"


Has anyone noticed what a huge deal Frampton and McGuigan (Shane, Barry and now this Blane fellow) keep making about making the IBF check-weight ?

Saying Carl has made the IBF check weight 7 times now on the morning of the fight, and "let's see how Quigg handles it" etc etc.

By saying that, they are maybe failing to realise that they are admitting that it's hell for Carl to do it. Also look how well Carl performed the last time he made this IBF morning check-weight? he looked subpar and you wonder of it's taking a bigger piece out of him every time he does it.

Whereas Quigg looks completely puzzled by their statement. Scott has always struck me as almost OCD in his approach to diet, training and rest - and that making weight is of zero concern to him.

Quigg normally starts slow but gathers more and more momentum. I feel like perhaps the opposite will be true of Carl and have reservations how well he will be in the later rounds.

I forecast that maybe win or lose, he could well move up after this fight. It could be part of the reason it's finally happening at last. That making super-bantam is becoming a real slog for the Belfast fighter.

tailor made excuse when he gets stopped!!

Quigg at the weigh in today and press conference yesterday.

McGuigan loves the limelight doesn't he. Looked a right pleb at the weigh in IMO.

Both are experienced and top professionals, if Frampton is especially tight at the weight it'll be a very hard fight for him if it goes past 4 rounds.