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Eubank v Groves could well be my next live fight. was going to buy Aj V pulev but held off as Jr and Groves will be more action packed. ive seen Sr fight 2 or 3 times and to be honest its electrical atmosphere so im hoping that this could be something special.

rossij8 wrote:

SAPFO wrote:

rossij8 wrote:
Wembley Stadium has a hoop?

It’s the largest covered stadium in the world, or Europe. One of those

I don't think it completely covers the whole pitch like Cardiff does

Wembley does not have a roof. It rains you’ll get wet.

Good fight , great body shot by Groves , it done the buisness, Cox needs to go down IF HE CAN , , the major players at supermiddle will all be to big for him .. ... Eubank - Groves ,, Eubank has picked the correct opponents all along , no one who can really test him . he certainly has'nt been hit often and regular by someone heavy handed like Groves , he is wide open to the same shots that just stopped Cox , , ... But then again Groves for me is slipping , he done well but A bigger guy , with faster hands would of caused him some serious problems tonight .. But he done the job a tough guy in front and he got him out of there , thats his job and he done it well .

So who wins Eubank or Groves ,, I'm gonna make a call , it don't happen , They will go back do there homework , relize at this stage George still has enough in the tank to do the buisness , and develop an injury , then go back to calling out GGG

If Groves is right he demolishes Eubank. Eubanks got a good engine, is fit as hell and throws a good volume of punches but his footwork is average, punch power average and he's got the brain of a peanut. Groves is a spiteful puncher and has a great jab - Eubank is made for someone with a crisp jab with good technique and power.

stujones wrote:Really good scrap, really good finish. I want to see more of Cox at world level.

Same. Do you think Cox could get down to 160?

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Boxerbeetle wrote:

rossij8 wrote:The Eubanks look a bit concerned - visually unhappy

I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the fight doesn’t go ahead. Eubank Jr is being extremely carefully managed, I don’t reckon they’ll fancy Groves at all.

Why would he sign up for this and then back out when the money gets huge?

He already backed out of a huge money opportunity when he refused to sign for Golovkin at the last minute. No reason he won’t do the same again.

Jackson328 wrote:

stujones wrote:Really good scrap, really good finish. I want to see more of Cox at world level.

Same. Do you think Cox could get down to 160?

15 of his 21 fights have been below 160

Boxerbeetle wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Boxerbeetle wrote:
I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the fight doesn’t go ahead. Eubank Jr is being extremely carefully managed, I don’t reckon they’ll fancy Groves at all.

Why would he sign up for this and then back out when the money gets huge?

He already backed out of a huge money opportunity when he refused to sign for Golovkin at the last minute. No reason he won’t do the same again.

That wasn't this kind of money.

Boxerbeetle wrote:

wesshaw1985 wrote:If anybody with a stream could DM me it would be much appreciated.
Its for a friend

I’m surprised you didn’t change the thread title to request it

I PM'd him a video of Farages latest LBC show

davie wrote:

Boxerbeetle wrote:

wesshaw1985 wrote:If anybody with a stream could DM me it would be much appreciated.
Its for a friend

I’m surprised you didn’t change the thread title to request it

I PM'd him a video of Farages latest LBC show

Boxerbeetle wrote:

rossij8 wrote:The Eubanks look a bit concerned - visually unhappy

I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the fight doesn’t go ahead. Eubank Jr is being extremely carefully managed, I don’t reckon they’ll fancy Groves at all.

The only time that Eubank looked bothered in his fight last week was when Yildirim found his body a couple of times. Not big shots, but enough to make Eubank take stock of how open his body was, noting to himself that he'd better not let anything more hurtful find its way home. He was also initiating clinches by dipping his head and closing the gap with a ram-like charge. If he telegraphs that against a puncher he's wide open to hooks and bodyshots; the latter if they hold their feet, or the former if they're fast enough to take a quick step backwards.

I imagine the Eubanks were delighted with Groves' performance right up until the finish. And I think they'd have remained delighted had Groves found a headshot to finish it instead. Eubank's chin might not be as good as his dad's, but there's plenty of evidence now to say that it's strong.

Eubank can give Groves problems with his workrate, but whereas Blackwell fought well and just didn't have the size to defend himself against it, Groves is big enough to stop those uppercuts threading through his guard. If Eubank overwhelms Groves, I think it'll be on rounds more than efficacy. Not to say that Eubank can't hurt Groves, but that I think it's more likely he wins because Groves tires somewhat of his own accord, rather than because he's beaten down.

But Groves is the best Eubank's faced by a distance, he's strong enough to negate a lot of Eubank's roughhousing, and he has the experience to cope mentally. Eubank's opponents to date have mostly been clear underdogs for whom Eubank represented the step-up, not the other way around.

I can only see Groves losing if the engine disparity between the two's greater than it seems. An unfit Groves loses all day, but the focused version's more dangerous than Eubank's going to be comfortable with, given his career so far.

As for tonight's fight! Great stuff from both. Pretty exciting, not so much of the dirty, and a credit to boxing.

davie wrote:

Boxerbeetle wrote:

wesshaw1985 wrote:If anybody with a stream could DM me it would be much appreciated.
Its for a friend

I’m surprised you didn’t change the thread title to request it

I PM'd him a video of Farages latest LBC show

#FakeNews

24 fights in and only his 3rd 12 rounder?

Something not right there

Grilling Machine wrote:

Boxerbeetle wrote:

rossij8 wrote:The Eubanks look a bit concerned - visually unhappy

I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the fight doesn’t go ahead. Eubank Jr is being extremely carefully managed, I don’t reckon they’ll fancy Groves at all.

The only time that Eubank looked bothered in his fight last week was when Yildirim found his body a couple of times. Not big shots, but enough to make Eubank take stock of how open his body was, noting to himself that he'd better not let anything more hurtful find its way home. He was also initiating clinches by dipping his head and closing the gap with a ram-like charge. If he telegraphs that against a puncher he's wide open to hooks and bodyshots; the latter if they hold their feet, or the former if they're fast enough to take a quick step backwards.

I imagine the Eubanks were delighted with Groves' performance right up until the finish. And I think they'd have remained delighted had Groves found a headshot to finish it instead. Eubank's chin might not be as good as his dad's, but there's plenty of evidence now to say that it's strong.

Eubank can give Groves problems with his workrate, but whereas Blackwell fought well and just didn't have the size to defend himself against it, Groves is big enough to stop those uppercuts threading through his guard. If Eubank overwhelms Groves, I think it'll be on rounds more than efficacy. Not to say that Eubank can't hurt Groves, but that I think it's more likely he wins because Groves tires somewhat of his own accord, rather than because he's beaten down.

But Groves is the best Eubank's faced by a distance, he's strong enough to negate a lot of Eubank's roughhousing, and he has the experience to cope mentally. Eubank's opponents to date have mostly been clear underdogs for whom Eubank represented the step-up, not the other way around.

I can only see Groves losing if the engine disparity between the two's greater than it seems. An unfit Groves loses all day, but the focused version's more dangerous than Eubank's going to be comfortable with, given his career so far.

As for tonight's fight! Great stuff from both. Pretty exciting, not so much of the dirty, and a credit to boxing.

Superb analysis of the fight!

Link please?

I don't think Eubank can pull out and I don't think he will - he fought BJS when he could have avoided with his reputation on the line without fighting anyone of note

Who genuinely believes deep down they can beat GGG (a very select few) so I'm not that critical of him calling him out and losing his pen

Will be a massive fight v Groves and I slightly edge the named

@grillingmachine.
Spot on

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Boxerbeetle wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: Why would he sign up for this and then back out when the money gets huge?

He already backed out of a huge money opportunity when he refused to sign for Golovkin at the last minute. No reason he won’t do the same again.

That wasn't this kind of money.

Must admit I haven’t really paid attention to the money in this tournament. But does it really pay better than a large share of a Sky PPV against Golovkin?

Fight was uploaded to YouTube as soon as it finished. My god, groves ain't gonna outslick anybody these days. Gonna go to the trenches every fight. I'm all for it! Used to build behind that jab, seems to start with so much nervous energy, twitching and pawing that jab now. Eubank and groves, will be an unmissable fight. If George can put it al together, he's on a great run but every fight he looks like at some point he come unstuck. Hope it's not against Eubank.

Great finish. One of them body punches you could feel just watching!

Boxerbeetle wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Boxerbeetle wrote:
He already backed out of a huge money opportunity when he refused to sign for Golovkin at the last minute. No reason he won’t do the same again.

That wasn't this kind of money.

Must admit I haven’t really paid attention to the money in this tournament. But does it really pay better than a large share of a Sky PPV against Golovkin?

Who would be getting a large share of a SKY PPV against Golovkin?

Golovkin's gonna be tied up with the Canelo rematch in America at the moment. He wouldn't pass on that to fight anybody at 168.

sammy95 wrote:

Grilling Machine wrote:

Boxerbeetle wrote: I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the fight doesn’t go ahead. Eubank Jr is being extremely carefully managed, I don’t reckon they’ll fancy Groves at all.

The only time that Eubank looked bothered in his fight last week was when Yildirim found his body a couple of times. Not big shots, but enough to make Eubank take stock of how open his body was, noting to himself that he'd better not let anything more hurtful find its way home. He was also initiating clinches by dipping his head and closing the gap with a ram-like charge. If he telegraphs that against a puncher he's wide open to hooks and bodyshots; the latter if they hold their feet, or the former if they're fast enough to take a quick step backwards.

I imagine the Eubanks were delighted with Groves' performance right up until the finish. And I think they'd have remained delighted had Groves found a headshot to finish it instead. Eubank's chin might not be as good as his dad's, but there's plenty of evidence now to say that it's strong.

Eubank can give Groves problems with his workrate, but whereas Blackwell fought well and just didn't have the size to defend himself against it, Groves is big enough to stop those uppercuts threading through his guard. If Eubank overwhelms Groves, I think it'll be on rounds more than efficacy. Not to say that Eubank can't hurt Groves, but that I think it's more likely he wins because Groves tires somewhat of his own accord, rather than because he's beaten down.

But Groves is the best Eubank's faced by a distance, he's strong enough to negate a lot of Eubank's roughhousing, and he has the experience to cope mentally. Eubank's opponents to date have mostly been clear underdogs for whom Eubank represented the step-up, not the other way around.

I can only see Groves losing if the engine disparity between the two's greater than it seems. An unfit Groves loses all day, but the focused version's more dangerous than Eubank's going to be comfortable with, given his career so far.

As for tonight's fight! Great stuff from both. Pretty exciting, not so much of the dirty, and a credit to boxing.

Superb analysis of the fight!

X2

mimmy123 wrote:

Jackson328 wrote:

stujones wrote:Really good scrap, really good finish. I want to see more of Cox at world level.

Same. Do you think Cox could get down to 160?

15 of his 21 fights have been below 160

Aye but he's no spring chicken in boxing and once you make weight comfy its that much harder to boil down to a lower weight and make the sacrifices. I think Cox will convince himself that after tonight he is a bona fide SM but I don't think he is, at 160 he could be a real handful

Groves never looked like he was not in control of the fight. Cox was rushing in and roughing Groves up, but he always ended up being on the wrong end the exchanges.

I got the feeling Groves was feeling confident enough to stand in there and rough it out with Cox. His jab was pretty much non existent.

Jackson328 wrote:

mimmy123 wrote:

Jackson328 wrote:
Same. Do you think Cox could get down to 160?

15 of his 21 fights have been below 160

Aye but he's no spring chicken in boxing and once you make weight comfy its that much harder to boil down to a lower weight and make the sacrifices. I think Cox will convince himself that after tonight he is a bona fide SM but I don't think he is, at 160 he could be a real handful

I wouldn't be surprised to see him return to 160. A fight between he and Saunders could possibly be made. Not sure though.

If he is to stay at 168 there's plenty of British names for him to face off against.

gilgamesh wrote:

Boxerbeetle wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: That wasn't this kind of money.

Must admit I haven’t really paid attention to the money in this tournament. But does it really pay better than a large share of a Sky PPV against Golovkin?

Who would be getting a large share of a SKY PPV against Golovkin?

Golovkin's gonna be tied up with the Canelo rematch in America at the moment. He wouldn't pass on that to fight anybody at 168.

I’m talking about when Brook fought GGG. Eubank Jr was supposed to fight instead of Brook but suddenly and mysteriously refused to sign at the last minute. From what I understand, Brook did extremely well financially out of it all.