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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021

Posted: 21 Apr 2021, 19:06
by coghaugen11
I hope he gets hammered. Not to the point of affecting his future life, but hurt bad in terms of broken bones, broken skin and humiliated.

Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021

Posted: 21 Apr 2021, 19:42
by emallini
People seem real invested in people they don't know

Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021

Posted: 21 Apr 2021, 20:48
by mickey1975
coghaugen11 wrote: 21 Apr 2021, 18:52 The reality is I don’t know anyone who knows who Canelo Alvarez or Billy Joe Saunders are.

I don’t know anyone who didn’t love Bruno, Eubank, Prince Naseem and Barry McGuigan.

That’s the real world.

DAZN is greed and MTK is murderous. These are genuinely tragic times.
Isn’t Chris the only convicted killer in that list?

Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021

Posted: 22 Apr 2021, 03:08
by Oiky
emallini wrote: 21 Apr 2021, 19:42 People seem real invested in people they don't know
My lot know bill and his lot very well

Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021

Posted: 22 Apr 2021, 03:14
by Bleak
Nice to see his Dad being so honest about
Some of the things going on that he is not happy about. Adds a nice bit of needle to it.

Billy Joe’s previous promoter will be loving it !!

Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021

Posted: 22 Apr 2021, 03:30
by coghaugen11
mickey1975 wrote: 21 Apr 2021, 20:48
coghaugen11 wrote: 21 Apr 2021, 18:52 The reality is I don’t know anyone who knows who Canelo Alvarez or Billy Joe Saunders are.

I don’t know anyone who didn’t love Bruno, Eubank, Prince Naseem and Barry McGuigan.

That’s the real world.

DAZN is greed and MTK is murderous. These are genuinely tragic times.
Isn’t Chris the only convicted killer in that list?
Banned.

Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021

Posted: 22 Apr 2021, 07:01
by Ruthless-RKO
Canelo-Saunders Press Conference

Canelo Alvarez: “I feel like I am in my prime. I’m going to win, without a doubt.”

Billy Joe Saunders: “It’s a legacy fight because of what is on the line. It’s the pinnacle, the top of the mountain.”


Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021

Posted: 22 Apr 2021, 08:27
by Bard of Boxrec
Canelo to win a 116-112 type decision, so on the actual cards canelo to win a 119-109 decision.

BJS to be in trouble on a few occasions.

Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021

Posted: 22 Apr 2021, 15:01
by jamesmcdonnell
emallini wrote: 21 Apr 2021, 19:42 People seem real invested in people they don't know
Saunders is a total helmet.

Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021

Posted: 22 Apr 2021, 15:02
by emallini
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 22 Apr 2021, 15:01
emallini wrote: 21 Apr 2021, 19:42 People seem real invested in people they don't know
Saunders is a total helmet.
I don't care. Good boxer.

Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021

Posted: 22 Apr 2021, 15:29
by jamesmcdonnell
emallini wrote: 22 Apr 2021, 15:02
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 22 Apr 2021, 15:01
emallini wrote: 21 Apr 2021, 19:42 People seem real invested in people they don't know
Saunders is a total helmet.
I don't care. Good boxer.
Fair enough I spose

Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021

Posted: 22 Apr 2021, 17:18
by brilo33
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 22 Apr 2021, 15:01
emallini wrote: 21 Apr 2021, 19:42 People seem real invested in people they don't know
Saunders is a total helmet.
i agree he aint everyones cuppa tea but he is a fighter though, everyone gives it about this modesty of hard people fighters what ever its a load waffle .every one i ve known in my life who can fight i mean street arnt the nicest of people there your mates so ur sweet with em, but to other people not so ,same with this old bully coward stuff that there wimps, not alaways true at all ,most of the lads who ran the estates did so because they were the hardest and wildest,there aint gonna be many fighters in there peak who are sweet, i dont think i can name any

Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021

Posted: 22 Apr 2021, 17:27
by tonyevs
As we have seen again recently with a Brit fighting in USA; it's about levels.

BJS is a level at least below Canelo.

Canelo will appear to start slow, much as he did against Callum Smith. But he will be working to a similar plan which will see him gradually breaking down then beating up BJS ..
BJS will try and survive once he feels Canelo revving it up .. best the BJS fans can hope for is the occasional brief flurry off BJS.

I still surprised some here mentioning the mythical boxing skills of BJS .. how many times have we seen them?

Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021

Posted: 22 Apr 2021, 17:33
by brilo33
tonyevs wrote: 22 Apr 2021, 17:27 As we have seen again recently with a Brit fighting in USA; it's about levels.

BJS is a level at least below Canelo.

Canelo will appear to start slow, much as he did against Callum Smith. But he will be working to a similar plan which will see him gradually breaking down then beating up BJS ..
BJS will try and survive once he feels Canelo revving it up .. best the BJS fans can hope for is the occasional brief flurry off BJS.

I still surprised some here mentioning the mythical boxing skills of BJS .. how many times have we seen them?
the thing is tone lets face it bill is gonna need a ko to win that fight i dont think even if he won every rd wide he would get the decision

Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021

Posted: 22 Apr 2021, 17:41
by brilo33
tonyevs wrote: 22 Apr 2021, 17:27 As we have seen again recently with a Brit fighting in USA; it's about levels.

BJS is a level at least below Canelo.

Canelo will appear to start slow, much as he did against Callum Smith. But he will be working to a similar plan which will see him gradually breaking down then beating up BJS ..
BJS will try and survive once he feels Canelo revving it up .. best the BJS fans can hope for is the occasional brief flurry off BJS.

I still surprised some here mentioning the mythical boxing skills of BJS .. how many times have we seen them?
bill is a good boxer going in to this fight he is the better boxer if this was an olympic fight i would fancy bill, but it pro boxing greater fighters like saul are very hard to beat .also saul has improved as a boxer cuts the ring off well knows how pressure a fighter now, but ggg.Jacobs,lara,trout,mayweather werent magical well maybe pretty boy ,

Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021

Posted: 22 Apr 2021, 17:52
by coghaugen11
Trout gave him a very close fight. Could’ve gone either way.

Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021

Posted: 22 Apr 2021, 17:57
by jamesmcdonnell
brilo33 wrote: 22 Apr 2021, 17:41
tonyevs wrote: 22 Apr 2021, 17:27 As we have seen again recently with a Brit fighting in USA; it's about levels.

BJS is a level at least below Canelo.

Canelo will appear to start slow, much as he did against Callum Smith. But he will be working to a similar plan which will see him gradually breaking down then beating up BJS ..
BJS will try and survive once he feels Canelo revving it up .. best the BJS fans can hope for is the occasional brief flurry off BJS.

I still surprised some here mentioning the mythical boxing skills of BJS .. how many times have we seen them?
bill is a good boxer going in to this fight he is the better boxer if this was an olympic fight i would fancy bill, but it pro boxing greater fighters like saul are very hard to beat .also saul has improved as a boxer cuts the ring off well knows how pressure a fighter now, but ggg.Jacobs,lara,trout,mayweather werent magical well maybe pretty boy ,
I don't agree he is the better boxer. Better pure defensive fighter perhaps, but canelo can fight offensively whilst avoiding getting caught significantly.

Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021

Posted: 22 Apr 2021, 17:59
by brilo33
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 22 Apr 2021, 17:57
brilo33 wrote: 22 Apr 2021, 17:41
tonyevs wrote: 22 Apr 2021, 17:27 As we have seen again recently with a Brit fighting in USA; it's about levels.

BJS is a level at least below Canelo.

Canelo will appear to start slow, much as he did against Callum Smith. But he will be working to a similar plan which will see him gradually breaking down then beating up BJS ..
BJS will try and survive once he feels Canelo revving it up .. best the BJS fans can hope for is the occasional brief flurry off BJS.

I still surprised some here mentioning the mythical boxing skills of BJS .. how many times have we seen them?
bill is a good boxer going in to this fight he is the better boxer if this was an olympic fight i would fancy bill, but it pro boxing greater fighters like saul are very hard to beat .also saul has improved as a boxer cuts the ring off well knows how pressure a fighter now, but ggg.Jacobs,lara,trout,mayweather werent magical well maybe pretty boy ,
I don't agree he is the better boxer. Better pure defensive fighter perhaps, but canelo can fight offensively whilst avoiding getting caught significantly.
got caught a lot in the triple g fight

Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021

Posted: 22 Apr 2021, 18:01
by brilo33
i think its hard to have ago at saul in the jacbos fight after fighting those wars with triple g , but he werent overly anything in that fight

Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021

Posted: 22 Apr 2021, 18:03
by brilo33
i think bills number one big problem is his engine he gasses after 6 or 7

Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021

Posted: 22 Apr 2021, 18:06
by Frostieballs
coghaugen11 wrote: 22 Apr 2021, 03:30
mickey1975 wrote: 21 Apr 2021, 20:48
coghaugen11 wrote: 21 Apr 2021, 18:52 The reality is I don’t know anyone who knows who Canelo Alvarez or Billy Joe Saunders are.

I don’t know anyone who didn’t love Bruno, Eubank, Prince Naseem and Barry McGuigan.

That’s the real world.

DAZN is greed and MTK is murderous. These are genuinely tragic times.
Isn’t Chris the only convicted killer in that list?
Banned.
I would like to ask:

- How many times have you told people they have been banned?

- How many people have you actually had banned?

Are you a mod?

Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021

Posted: 22 Apr 2021, 18:09
by brilo33
Frostieballs wrote: 22 Apr 2021, 18:06
coghaugen11 wrote: 22 Apr 2021, 03:30
mickey1975 wrote: 21 Apr 2021, 20:48
Isn’t Chris the only convicted killer in that list?
Banned.
I would like to ask:

- How many times have you told people they have been banned?

- How many people have you actually had banned?

Are you a mod?
he loves a harrington and a bit of ben sherman so possibly

Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021

Posted: 22 Apr 2021, 18:44
by jamesmcdonnell
brilo33 wrote: 22 Apr 2021, 17:59
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 22 Apr 2021, 17:57
brilo33 wrote: 22 Apr 2021, 17:41

bill is a good boxer going in to this fight he is the better boxer if this was an olympic fight i would fancy bill, but it pro boxing greater fighters like saul are very hard to beat .also saul has improved as a boxer cuts the ring off well knows how pressure a fighter now, but ggg.Jacobs,lara,trout,mayweather werent magical well maybe pretty boy ,
I don't agree he is the better boxer. Better pure defensive fighter perhaps, but canelo can fight offensively whilst avoiding getting caught significantly.
got caught a lot in the triple g fight
He got caught a lot less than most.

Golovkin is much more aggressive than Saunders.

Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021

Posted: 22 Apr 2021, 18:55
by brilo33
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 22 Apr 2021, 18:44
brilo33 wrote: 22 Apr 2021, 17:59
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 22 Apr 2021, 17:57

I don't agree he is the better boxer. Better pure defensive fighter perhaps, but canelo can fight offensively whilst avoiding getting caught significantly.
got caught a lot in the triple g fight
He got caught a lot less than most.

Golovkin is much more aggressive than Saunders.
i get what your saying but billy is a counter puncher as well like when he dropped lee, but i think saul doesnt really care about being hit , he is very much take a shot to throw as many back which are usually a lot more powerful and body zapping . i am a massive fan of saul problay most favourite boxer of all time in my 30s but i wont lie iam a big bjs fan too
i want billy to win ,i cant see how beats saul

Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021

Posted: 23 Apr 2021, 02:15
by tonyevs
Of course Canelo has had some close fights, although it's worth putting them into perspective against the guys BJS has had close fights against .. again, it's completely different levels.

People often say BJS will need a KO to win. But that's missing the point. Facts are his boxing skills are not good enough, and he just doesn't hit hard enough.

I'd favour Callum Smith over BJS; better in every dept IMO. And Smith had more than BJS to make things difficult for Canelo - but got a systematic beat down.