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Posted: **30 Apr 2020, 16:14**

Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑30 Apr 2020, 16:04 Catweazle was the king of the cobbles around our way. Lived just down the road in Hexthorpe. 6 feet 4 inches of your worst nightmares in a street fight. His real name was Gary Cooper, but we used to call him sir.

What was the score with the wrestlers back then? Were they trained in Greco roman or catch wrestling? Or just big hard men?

Posted: **30 Apr 2020, 18:02**

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑30 Apr 2020, 16:14
Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑30 Apr 2020, 16:04 Catweazle was the king of the cobbles around our way. Lived just down the road in Hexthorpe. 6 feet 4 inches of your worst nightmares in a street fight. His real name was Gary Cooper, but we used to call him sir.
What was the score with the wrestlers back then? Were they trained in Greco roman or catch wrestling? Or just big hard men?

I have no idea.

Posted: **01 May 2020, 06:26**

Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑30 Apr 2020, 18:02
Wee Tommy wrote: ↑30 Apr 2020, 16:14

What was the score with the wrestlers back then? Were they trained in Greco roman or catch wrestling? Or just big hard men?
I have no idea.

Talking of Wrestlers, anyone remember Giant Haystacks? He was a big mother f____r. If he sat you, your know about it

Posted: **01 May 2020, 06:30**

Muttley wrote: ↑01 May 2020, 06:26
Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑30 Apr 2020, 18:02

I have no idea.
Talking of Wrestlers, anyone remember Giant Haystacks? He was a big mother f____r. If he sat you, your know about it

I do,loved him,I watched him wrestle live once against Pat Roach and he spent the whole match pinning Roach to the ropes trying to suck his eye out,great entertainment in those day back in the early 80's

Posted: **01 May 2020, 06:39**

Jimmy Savile was also a wrestler - had around 100 bouts

British wrestling was very popular back in the seventies and eighties on ITV after Saint and Greavsie at Midday - there were loads of big, tough Yorkshire dudes knocking the shit out of each other - my favourite(s) when I was a kid was a deaf wrestler from Sheffield called Mick Kirby (I think that was his name...) Fit Finlay from Manchester and his squaw wife

and of course, Big Daddy who used to knock people down with his huge gut - easy easy easy!

If the American stuff was around when I was a kid - I would have lapped that up big time - I remember watching it once around 1987 on ITV and I thought 'wow, amazing!'.

Posted: **01 May 2020, 06:50**

Carlos wrote: ↑01 May 2020, 06:39 Jimmy Savile was also a wrestler - had around 100 bouts

British wrestling was very popular back in the seventies and eighties on ITV after Saint and Greavsie at Midday - there were loads of big, tough Yorkshire dudes knocking the poo out of each other - my favourite(s) when I was a kid was a deaf wrestler from Sheffield called Mick Kirby (I think that was his name...) Fit Finlay from Manchester and his squaw wife and of course, Big Daddy who used to knock people down with his huge gut - easy easy easy!

If the American stuff was around when I was a kid - I would have lapped that up big time - I remember watching it once around 1987 on ITV and I thought 'wow, amazing!'.

Fit Finlay is from Belfast, he actually worked in WWE for about 10 years.

Posted: **01 May 2020, 06:53**

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑01 May 2020, 06:50
Carlos wrote: ↑01 May 2020, 06:39 Jimmy Savile was also a wrestler - had around 100 bouts

British wrestling was very popular back in the seventies and eighties on ITV after Saint and Greavsie at Midday - there were loads of big, tough Yorkshire dudes knocking the poo out of each other - my favourite(s) when I was a kid was a deaf wrestler from Sheffield called Mick Kirby (I think that was his name...) Fit Finlay from Manchester and his squaw wife and of course, Big Daddy who used to knock people down with his huge gut - easy easy easy!

If the American stuff was around when I was a kid - I would have lapped that up big time - I remember watching it once around 1987 on ITV and I thought 'wow, amazing!'.
Fit Finlay is from Belfast, he actually worked in WWE for about 10 years.

He was billed out of Manchester though.

Posted: **01 May 2020, 07:17**

mercman wrote: ↑01 May 2020, 06:56 There's a great book about British wrestling at that time, a real warts and all number. It's simply called 'The Wrestling'.

It's all in there, Big Daddy, Kendo Nagasaki. Giant Haystacks, and all sorts of other wrestlers who you've probably never heard of or can't remember. There's a section on Les Kellett, I think it is, that's really vivid and frankly a bit revolting.

Kendo Nagasaki - his mask always nearly came off but - aaaaaaaaaaargh - he would get out of it, apparently he was a used car salesman from Crewe so we would have all known he wasn't Japanese!

Weren't the Queen and the Queen Mother massive fans?

Posted: **01 May 2020, 08:23**

What exactly was the problem with Mick McManus' ears? Swimming baths incident? Childhood trauma?

My mate's bird used to work at the M62/A1 services. We used to go up and meet her before her shift ended. One day British Bulldog was in there, bulking up on carbs. His tray was literally piled high with about 3 cooked breakfasts worth. All the servers were cooing over him. He was wide but not very tall, which surprised me cos a lot of the American wrestlers were quite tall.

Posted: **01 May 2020, 10:31**

I was trying to think of the name of the wrestler who used to start crying in the ring so I had a look online; Jimmy "Cry Baby" Breaks. He was charged with murdering his ex-wife in his flat on the island of Gran Canaria last year. He allegedly beat her to death. She was 47 years old and he was 80! And people still say wrestlers are fakes who can't really fight. She left her husband and two kids to run off with Breaks to the Canaries over 20 years ago. I wonder if he wept in the dock?

Posted: **01 May 2020, 10:58**

mercman wrote: ↑01 May 2020, 06:56 There's a great book about British wrestling at that time, a real warts and all number. It's simply called 'The Wrestling'.

It's all in there, Big Daddy, Kendo Nagasaki. Giant Haystacks, and all sorts of other wrestlers who you've probably never heard of or can't remember. There's a section on Les Kellett, I think it is, that's really vivid and frankly a bit revolting.

Les Kellett was a comic genius in the ring. Iv'e still got a few old Belle Vue programmes as the 'ol fella used
to take us on a sat nigh when we were nipperst. Leon Harris was in the drunken grandad Kellett mode whilst Bobby
Barnes had the old dears (75% of the audience) swooning.

What's the bit about Kellett mercman?

Posted: **01 May 2020, 11:43**

Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑01 May 2020, 10:31 I was trying to think of the name of the wrestler who used to start crying in the ring so I had a look online; Jimmy "Cry Baby" Breaks. He was charged with murdering his ex-wife in his flat on the island of Gran Canaria last year. He allegedly beat her to death. She was 47 years old and he was 80! And people still say wrestlers are fakes who can't really fight. She left her husband and two kids to run off with Breaks to the Canaries over 20 years ago. I wonder if he wept in the dock?

Not my first thoughts when you told that story, I must say.

Posted: **01 May 2020, 11:59**

My Name Is Earl wrote: ↑01 May 2020, 10:58
mercman wrote: ↑01 May 2020, 06:56 There's a great book about British wrestling at that time, a real warts and all number. It's simply called 'The Wrestling'.

It's all in there, Big Daddy, Kendo Nagasaki. Giant Haystacks, and all sorts of other wrestlers who you've probably never heard of or can't remember. There's a section on Les Kellett, I think it is, that's really vivid and frankly a bit revolting.
Les Kellett was a comic genius in the ring. Iv'e still got a few old Belle Vue programmes as the 'ol fella used
to take us on a sat nigh when we were nipperst. Leon Harris was in the drunken grandad Kellett mode whilst Bobby
Barnes had the old dears (75% of the audience) swooning.

What's the bit about Kellett mercman?

I remember reading years back after Giant Haystacks died, his widow did a piece, prob the News of the World, saying that he died skint, earned a pittance for wrestling and was treated badly whereas Big Daddy was coining it in

Posted: **01 May 2020, 12:12**

Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑01 May 2020, 10:31 I was trying to think of the name of the wrestler who used to start crying in the ring so I had a look online; Jimmy "Cry Baby" Breaks. He was charged with murdering his ex-wife in his flat on the island of Gran Canaria last year. He allegedly beat her to death. She was 47 years old and he was 80! And people still say wrestlers are fakes who can't really fight. She left her husband and two kids to run off with Breaks to the Canaries over 20 years ago. I wonder if he wept in the dock?

I heard Jim Breaks owned a pub in West Yorkshire and some liked to challenge him but he always used his "Jim Breaks Special" on them and broke their wrists. The old wrestlers were not to be trifled with.

Posted: **01 May 2020, 12:19**

clopixolacuphase wrote: ↑01 May 2020, 11:43
Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑01 May 2020, 10:31 I was trying to think of the name of the wrestler who used to start crying in the ring so I had a look online; Jimmy "Cry Baby" Breaks. He was charged with murdering his ex-wife in his flat on the island of Gran Canaria last year. He allegedly beat her to death. She was 47 years old and he was 80! And people still say wrestlers are fakes who can't really fight. She left her husband and two kids to run off with Breaks to the Canaries over 20 years ago. I wonder if he wept in the dock?
Not my first thoughts when you told that story, I must say.

It's a joke. Like on Top Gear.

Posted: **01 May 2020, 12:31**

dr_devious wrote: ↑01 May 2020, 12:12
Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑01 May 2020, 10:31 I was trying to think of the name of the wrestler who used to start crying in the ring so I had a look online; Jimmy "Cry Baby" Breaks. He was charged with murdering his ex-wife in his flat on the island of Gran Canaria last year. He allegedly beat her to death. She was 47 years old and he was 80! And people still say wrestlers are fakes who can't really fight. She left her husband and two kids to run off with Breaks to the Canaries over 20 years ago. I wonder if he wept in the dock?
I heard Jim Breaks owned a pub in West Yorkshire and some liked to challenge him but he always used his "Jim Breaks Special" on them and broke their wrists. The old wrestlers were not to be trifled with.

I heard he was Big Daddy's bitch and had to give him free beer. That belly was built on Cry Baby's booze. I wonder if mickey1975 ever met Jimmy? It might have been Mickey's wife he ran off with.

Posted: **01 May 2020, 12:45**

bigjack wrote: ↑01 May 2020, 06:30
Muttley wrote: ↑01 May 2020, 06:26

Talking of Wrestlers, anyone remember Giant Haystacks? He was a big mother f____r. If he sat you, your know about it
I do,loved him,I watched him wrestle live once against Pat Roach and he spent the whole match pinning Roach to the ropes trying to suck his eye out,great entertainment in those day back in the early 80's

Even I was a kid when he Haystacks was about, how old were you when you saw that match up?

Posted: **01 May 2020, 13:10**

Muttley wrote: ↑01 May 2020, 12:45
bigjack wrote: ↑01 May 2020, 06:30

I do,loved him,I watched him wrestle live once against Pat Roach and he spent the whole match pinning Roach to the ropes trying to suck his eye out,great entertainment in those day back in the early 80's
Even I was a kid when he Haystacks was about, how old were you when you saw that match up?

15 i'd say

Posted: **01 May 2020, 13:19**

bigjack wrote: ↑01 May 2020, 13:10
Muttley wrote: ↑01 May 2020, 12:45

Even I was a kid when he Haystacks was about, how old were you when you saw that match up?
15 i'd say

Makes us about the same age, reading this i'm feeling a old now

Posted: **01 May 2020, 14:09**

Muttley wrote: ↑01 May 2020, 13:19
bigjack wrote: ↑01 May 2020, 13:10

15 i'd say
Makes us about the same age, reading this i'm feeling a old now

we are old,we have seen fighters come and go,then their sons too

Posted: **01 May 2020, 14:18**

bigjack wrote: ↑01 May 2020, 14:09
Muttley wrote: ↑01 May 2020, 13:19

Makes us about the same age, reading this i'm feeling a old now
we are old,we have seen fighters come and go,then their sons too

Very true. I remember a few of John Fury's fights back in the late 80's and early 90's. He fought couple of decent names. Not massive puncher a good honest pro

Posted: **01 May 2020, 14:21**

Pat bomber roach was the man

Posted: **01 May 2020, 14:26**

I used to love wrestling on a Saturday afternoon round at my grans - Kendo Nagasaki used to proper shit me up!

Posted: **01 May 2020, 14:32**

bripez wrote: ↑01 May 2020, 14:26 I used to love wrestling on a Saturday afternoon round at my grans - Kendo Nagasaki used to proper poo me up!

yeh me too,there was also,

Catweazle
Big Daddy
Mark 'Rollerball' Rocco
Mick McManus
Tony StClare
Les Kellett
Bomber Pat Roach
Johnny Kwango,
Bobby Barnes

there were dozens more too,all great viewing on a Saturday afternoon

Posted: **02 May 2020, 03:43**

Rollerball Rocco and Clive Ironfist Myers were my favourites. Ironfist was said to be an arm wrestling world champion too

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