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Re: Round-by-Round: Katie Taylor vs. Amanda Serrano | DAZN - April 30, 2022

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joshj909 wrote: 01 May 2022, 07:39 Compubox had Serrano landing 2/150 jabs (1.3%) with Taylor landing 1/62 (1.6%) :o

www.BS.com/amp/katie-taylor-vs-amanda-s ... ts--165910
I did notice that Serrano seemed to only throw her jab when she was way outta range, as if it were more out of habit than actually trying to do anything. A lot of her jabs were like 2-3 feet away from Taylor & weren't meant to do anything.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Katie Taylor vs. Amanda Serrano | DAZN - April 30, 2022

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RScarf1 wrote: 01 May 2022, 13:56
GreenLightning wrote: 01 May 2022, 12:39
RScarf1 wrote: 01 May 2022, 11:11 Claressa Shields said she thought Taylor won. In my opinion, the two judges who scored the fight for Taylor and anyone else who thinks Taylor deserved to win is biased. Serrano arguably should be undefeated. She also got robbed in Sweden against Frida Wallberg. Serrano is the real pound for pound number one.
Why would Shields be bias for Taylor ??
She is biased because she wants to be considered the pound for pound best female boxer. Since Taylor will never leave the lightweight division, Shields is never going to fight Taylor. Therefore, Shields can say that Taylor deserved the win against Serrano. However, Serrano has fought and been a world champion in multiple weight classes. Serrano is more likely to move up in weight to fight Shields than Taylor. Shields would have to come down in weight and maybe they could fight at welterweight (147), but it's not outside the realm of possibility. Serrano has fought at super lightweight (140) once.

I don't think Shields wants to fight Serrano in order to maintain her undefeated record and to continue claiming that she is the greatest female boxer of all time which she does claim. Not only of this current time, but for all time. Shields has even said that she is the best boxer of all time except for Muhammad Ali. Forget about Sugar Ray Robinson or Roberto Duran. Shields is the best boxer ever out of all the male and female boxers in boxing history except for Ali. I think Shields will lose to Savannah Marshall, but for now, Shields does not want to have any boxer be considered No. 1 that she could possibly fight in the future.
Serrano is a lightweight from lower weightclasses. No way she moves up three weightclasses to 154 to fight Shields.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Katie Taylor vs. Amanda Serrano | DAZN - April 30, 2022

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Katie bad decisions taylor, boxing sister of jermain
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Re: Round-by-Round: Katie Taylor vs. Amanda Serrano | DAZN - April 30, 2022

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IKSRTFO wrote: 01 May 2022, 18:50Serrano is a lightweight from lower weightclasses. No way she moves up three weightclasses to 154 to fight Shields.
I agree. Serrano won a world title at super lightweight (140), so she probably will only go up to welterweight (147) to fight Shields if it happens. Shields would of course have to drop down in weight. I think it's unlikely to happen, but it is possible. Shields is not going to fight Taylor because Taylor will likely remain at lightweight.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Katie Taylor vs. Amanda Serrano | DAZN - April 30, 2022

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thomasjkelley wrote: 01 May 2022, 18:27
RScarf1 wrote: 01 May 2022, 11:11 Claressa Shields said she thought Taylor won. In my opinion, the two judges who scored the fight for Taylor and anyone else who thinks Taylor deserved to win is biased. Serrano arguably should be undefeated. She also got robbed in Sweden against Frida Wallberg. Serrano is the real pound for pound number one.
So basically "Anyone who disagrees with me is biased! No one is allowed to have a sincere opinion unless I like it."
I'm sorry. I should rephrase that. Anyone who scored it for Taylor is either biased or does not know how to score a fight.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Katie Taylor vs. Amanda Serrano | DAZN - April 30, 2022

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thomasjkelley wrote: 01 May 2022, 18:31Yeah that's an objective measurement! "Someone I don't know saw other people who they don't know, look surprised" Sounds legit. This despite the fact that we can hear the fans at the stadium are cheering about 50/50 at the beginning of the fight & at the end they are basically all cheering for Taylor. You are one sour fellow. You don't think Taylor or Canelo deserve #1? Sounds like you don't like the Irish. Lol.
I have nothing against the Irish. I met John Duddy and filmed him in training. I drink Irish tea. I just hate to see the biased or incompetent judging in boxing, especially at the highest level. DAZN main event fights are the highest level of boxing. They are the best matchups possible. I don't care if a boxer is blue like a Smurf. I don't care about nationality or race. I'm not a fan of a boxer just because he or she is from America. I saw a video on YouTube and the guy was saying that race had something to do with the Taylor vs. Serrano judges decision. I don't think the decision was based on race. I think it was based on who makes the most money for the powers that be such as promoters and sanctioning bodies.

When the UFC has a bad judges decision, UFC president Dana White is quick to criticize it. In boxing, the decisions are rarely criticized publicly. Judges in boxing rarely get punished for a bad decision. The UFC has contracts with all of their fighters. The UFC has their own world title belts. Their only concern is having action-packed fights that people want to see regardless of who wins. The sanctioning bodies provide the judges for world title fights in boxing, but there are no UFC judges. The judges for the UFC are provided by the state in which the event is in. For example, if a UFC event is in Florida, then the Florida State Boxing Commission would provide the judges because it also regulates other combat sports. A sanctioning body in boxing could prefer a champion to win depending on how much money he or she would bring in which affects the sanctioning fee because they get a percentage. Perhaps they would want a changing of the guard and have the challenger win because of a larger fan base.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Katie Taylor vs. Amanda Serrano | DAZN - April 30, 2022

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RScarf1 wrote: 01 May 2022, 19:16
thomasjkelley wrote: 01 May 2022, 18:27
RScarf1 wrote: 01 May 2022, 11:11 Claressa Shields said she thought Taylor won. In my opinion, the two judges who scored the fight for Taylor and anyone else who thinks Taylor deserved to win is biased. Serrano arguably should be undefeated. She also got robbed in Sweden against Frida Wallberg. Serrano is the real pound for pound number one.
So basically "Anyone who disagrees with me is biased! No one is allowed to have a sincere opinion unless I like it."
I'm sorry. I should rephrase that. Anyone who scored it for Taylor is either biased or does not know how to score a fight.
exactly. no 2 ways about it.

serrano came forward the whole fvckin fight while landing the cleaner and harder punches.

i have nothing against taylor. zip. she just didn't win that fight.

if one objectively judges that fight one just can't possible come to those 2 scorecards in her favour.

blatantly obvious corruption. period
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I can’t help but be frustrated by this outcome and it calls for an immediate rematch. Taylor was walked down and out power punched in most rounds. Serrano exercised effective aggression and clean punching. Taylor looked amateurish - in fact, it doesn’t appear to me that Taylor has improved as a fighter since her pro debut.
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Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 01 May 2022, 18:57 Katie bad decisions taylor, boxing sister of jermain
Lol made me laugh. I assume you had Serrano winning?
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lazboy wrote: 01 May 2022, 22:54 I can’t help but be frustrated by this outcome and it calls for an immediate rematch. Taylor was walked down and out power punched in most rounds. Serrano exercised effective aggression and clean punching. Taylor looked amateurish - in fact, it doesn’t appear to me that Taylor has improved as a fighter since her pro debut.
She’s been on the slide for a few fights.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 02 May 2022, 04:01
lazboy wrote: 01 May 2022, 22:54 I can’t help but be frustrated by this outcome and it calls for an immediate rematch. Taylor was walked down and out power punched in most rounds. Serrano exercised effective aggression and clean punching. Taylor looked amateurish - in fact, it doesn’t appear to me that Taylor has improved as a fighter since her pro debut.
She’s been on the slide for a few fights.
She reminds me of Amir Khan.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Katie Taylor vs. Amanda Serrano | DAZN - April 30, 2022

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RScarf1 wrote: 01 May 2022, 18:14 I read a comment on YouTube of someone who was at Madison Square Garden and saw the Irish people in the audience in shock that Taylor won. Taylor and Canelo Alvarez are both fake pound for pound number ones. Boxing is not going to let their cash cows lose, even to the No. 2 pound for pound boxers Serrano and Golovkin. If I was Serrano, I would not agree to a rematch unless Taylor agreed to 12 x 3 minute rounds, especially when the fight is going to be in Ireland.

Boxing has always been that way, and as long as one fighter can make everyone concerned a ton of more money than the other, it's likely to remain this way.

The real stink appears when it's blatantly obvious to most of those watching.

However, I don't think that was the case here. It was a real close fight, an epic if truth be told.

It might even be the best women's fight ever.

It might even end up as a Hollywood in the near future. It was that good.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Katie Taylor vs. Amanda Serrano | DAZN - April 30, 2022

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 02 May 2022, 04:01
lazboy wrote: 01 May 2022, 22:54 I can’t help but be frustrated by this outcome and it calls for an immediate rematch. Taylor was walked down and out power punched in most rounds. Serrano exercised effective aggression and clean punching. Taylor looked amateurish - in fact, it doesn’t appear to me that Taylor has improved as a fighter since her pro debut.
She’s been on the slide for a few fights.
Taylor had a very close unanimous decision win against Natasha Jonas who is No. 1 in her new division at super welterweight, but she is not top 10 pound for pound. Taylor had two close fights against Delfine Persoon and Taylor arguably should have lost the first fight. I think Taylor should have lost to Serrano. Taylor has only 21 pro fights, but she had 188 amateur fights which is a lot so that may have contributed to the wear and tear. She was injury free against Serrano, but she has had injuries before. She is 35 years old. Her hand speed has been what she relies on and that usually declines with age. I think Taylor has only one or two years left being a top 10 pound for pound female boxer. She could box until she is 40, but it will be harder to perform at a high level. On the other hand, Serrano had only 2 amateur fights and 45 pro fights. Serrano is 33 years old. Serrano arguably should be undefeated as she got robbed against Frida Wallberg when fighting in Sweden and now against Taylor.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Katie Taylor vs. Amanda Serrano | DAZN - April 30, 2022

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Winning the fight is simply a case of who wins the most rnds wins the fight .. Taylor won the early rnds no doubt , Serrano won middle rnds and actually won them more convincingly ,,, but credit where due later rnds Taylor done well , fair enough some were close but they were Taylors rnds ,,, either way great fight , done wonders for womens boxing.

Although i would like to see the women do 3 min rnds if they want equality give it them
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Re: Round-by-Round: Katie Taylor vs. Amanda Serrano | DAZN - April 30, 2022

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RScarf1 wrote: 01 May 2022, 17:48
NateJR wrote: 01 May 2022, 16:41I see it pretty split on how it was called by people. I don't know where you're getting alot of people when it's damn near split on who people thought won. Proves the point that it was a razor close fight. The outcome wasn't even controversial, much less a robbery. Get outta here with that robbery horse shyt.
There were not a lot of close rounds. Serrano was landing the harder and cleaner shots. I scored it eight out of ten rounds for Serrano. At worst, it was seven out of ten rounds for Serrano. The fifth round was arguably a 10-8 round for Serrano, but I scored it 10-9. Serrano had the better ring generalship, effective aggression, and defense. She also landed more overall punches and power punches than Taylor.
This video expresses how thousands of people feel about the fight:
Here we go again. Edited YouTube videos to prove absolutely nothing. I watched the entire fight and some edited YouTube video from some crazed individual will not change my educated view of what I saw. That was a close fight that could have gone either way.
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Best Female fight I can recall - ever !
she deserves to be top dog
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They keep saying this sets the bar for women.

But these two are arguably the BEST women boxers in the world.

Would have Ben worse if it was crap.

This doesn’t mean we’re gonna keep getting instant classics.
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What a tweet.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 02 May 2022, 12:01

What a tweet.
Did you mean twat?
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TempleSlave wrote: 02 May 2022, 16:41
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 02 May 2022, 12:01

What a tweet.
Did you mean twat?
Yeh. That.
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Hearn saying this was a smash for DAZN subs and viewers. He’d say anything though wouldn’t he.

#GameChanged (for womens boxing)

When Hearn said he was changing and taking over boxing, he meant womens of course. :yay:
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Re: Round-by-Round: Katie Taylor vs. Amanda Serrano | DAZN - April 30, 2022

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I watched the fight live and thought it was a fantastic bout.

Despite the late rally by the woman from Ireland, I felt that Serrano was denied a well-deserved victory.

I wouldn’t describe the outcome as being a blatant “robbery” though.

In my mind, Katie Taylor has been beaten by Delfine Persoon twice and Amanda Serrano once.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 03 May 2022, 04:37 I watched the fight live and thought it was a fantastic bout.

Despite the late rally by the woman from Ireland, I felt that Serrano was denied a well-deserved victory.

I wouldn’t describe the outcome as being a blatant “robbery” though.

In my mind, Katie Taylor has been beaten by Delfine Persoon twice and Amanda Serrano once.
You can clearly see the butthurt folk that lost money betting on Serrano. Taylor fought so well moving backwards so people see her moving back but fail to count the multitude of punches she landed all night from that position. Folks just don’t know how to score a fight. Yourself, included.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 02 May 2022, 12:01

What a tweet.
:lol: :lol: :lol:


because what says 'we take female equality seriously!' quite like taking a sporting event to Saudi Arabia?
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