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Prime Leonard v Prime Crawford would have been some fight.

Gotta go with Sugar Ray though

There are fewer more complete fighters than Terence Crawford

forcefraser wrote: ↑30 Jul 2023, 16:09 Prime Leonard v Prime Crawford would have been some fight.

Gotta go with Sugar Ray though

Crawford is in the same class for sure. Of course, it's hard to compare modern fighters with the legends, who has been respected for ages, but this fight would have been at least competetive.

What can you say ,, a lot picked Crawford to win , prsonaly i could'nt pick a winner for me it was toss a coin, but i don't think many expected that total beatdown , he just hurt him with every single punch that jab was a work of art , , I also agree with another poster , Spnces corner should off threw the towel in ,, Spence was trying to work the body with little in his punches he was physicly drained , just fighting the later rnds on , heart , muscle memory and emotion , he needed saving , it could of turned very nasty for him and boxing

No point going into the championship rnds when your well and truly beat both physicly and mentaly , very brave trainer

J-C wrote: ↑30 Jul 2023, 09:04

Controversial wrote: ↑30 Jul 2023, 08:07 Spence sounds like he's slurring in the post fight interview

I actually thought that in the build up. But I watched an interview with him from when he first turned pro and, to be fair, he's always had one of those accents that could be mistaken for slurred speech.

I did listen to other interviews to get a comparison but I still thought he sounded slower and slurred. Granted he'd just been in a fight so that might've played a part but I've also seen tweets from an ex-pro and others saying Spence didn't sound right in the build up. Who knows?

I know no one wants to hear it in the midst of the rightful acclaim for an all-time great performance, but imo Spence looked a shot fighter in there, to be brutally honest.

I mean an elite level P4P fighter like Spence was, wouldn’t normally get his legs turned to jelly by that 2nd round punch - on the button yes but hardly a fight changing bomb. The signs were there in the last fight when he looked at sea briefly, which we’d never seen before, but just assumed/hoped it was a weird fluke.

f@cking hell ruthy, please no one quote that post

Can’t wait til he wins his next fight by a split and everyone calls him a hypejob

MightyWarrior wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 06:35 I know no one wants to hear it in the midst of the rightful acclaim for an all-time great performance, but imo Spence looked a shot fighter in there, to be brutally honest.

I mean an elite level P4P fighter like Spence was, wouldn’t normally get his legs turned to jelly by that 2nd round punch - on the button yes but hardly a fight changing bomb. The signs were there in the last fight when he looked at sea briefly, which we’d never seen before, but just assumed/hoped it was a weird fluke.

Do have to wonder how much the car crash took out of him.

Delta Jay wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 06:37 Can’t wait til he wins his next fight by a split and everyone calls him a hypejob

boxing fans eh..

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 06:37 f@cking hell ruthy, please no one quote that post

MightyWarrior wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 06:35 I know no one wants to hear it in the midst of the rightful acclaim for an all-time great performance, but imo Spence looked a shot fighter in there, to be brutally honest.

I mean an elite level P4P fighter like Spence was, wouldn’t normally get his legs turned to jelly by that 2nd round punch - on the button yes but hardly a fight changing bomb. The signs were there in the last fight when he looked at sea briefly, which we’d never seen before, but just assumed/hoped it was a weird fluke.

Saw Roy Jones talking about it, he said ain't nobody getting thrown from a car at over a hundred miles an hour and being the same physically ever again, was talking about how his face came apart so early in the fight and that it could be down to him having plastic surgery. I hope he doesn't go through with the rematch and if his team care about him they will talk him out of it. An extra 7lbs isn't going to help at all, Bud has already said he's tight at the weight himself.

MightyWarrior wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 06:35 I know no one wants to hear it in the midst of the rightful acclaim for an all-time great performance, but imo Spence looked a shot fighter in there, to be brutally honest.

I mean an elite level P4P fighter like Spence was, wouldn’t normally get his legs turned to jelly by that 2nd round punch - on the button yes but hardly a fight changing bomb. The signs were there in the last fight when he looked at sea briefly, which we’d never seen before, but just assumed/hoped it was a weird fluke.

i was going to post yesterday i give a good chance of Tim Tszyu beating Crawford and spence was shot, but i thought i would get rinsed in the comments.

Great display by Crawford , Spence hasn't seemed the same since the crash, his eyes seemed like he's been smoking something...

You wait ages/too long for fights and they seem to end up with just one fighter dominating, Mayweather with Pacman, Brook with Khan etc. now Crawford with Spence. Just one last Ooh Betty! for old times sake

Glass Joe wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 09:25

MightyWarrior wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 06:35 I know no one wants to hear it in the midst of the rightful acclaim for an all-time great performance, but imo Spence looked a shot fighter in there, to be brutally honest.

I mean an elite level P4P fighter like Spence was, wouldn’t normally get his legs turned to jelly by that 2nd round punch - on the button yes but hardly a fight changing bomb. The signs were there in the last fight when he looked at sea briefly, which we’d never seen before, but just assumed/hoped it was a weird fluke.

i was going to post yesterday i give a good chance of Tim Tszyu beating Crawford and spence was shot, but i thought i would get rinsed in the comments.

You'd deserve to get rinsed too! No one at 154 will beat Crawford

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 07:32

MightyWarrior wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 06:35 I know no one wants to hear it in the midst of the rightful acclaim for an all-time great performance, but imo Spence looked a shot fighter in there, to be brutally honest.

I mean an elite level P4P fighter like Spence was, wouldn’t normally get his legs turned to jelly by that 2nd round punch - on the button yes but hardly a fight changing bomb. The signs were there in the last fight when he looked at sea briefly, which we’d never seen before, but just assumed/hoped it was a weird fluke.

Saw Roy Jones talking about it, he said ain't nobody getting thrown from a car at over a hundred miles an hour and being the same physically ever again, was talking about how his face came apart so early in the fight and that it could be down to him having plastic surgery. I hope he doesn't go through with the rematch and if his team care about him they will talk him out of it. An extra 7lbs isn't going to help at all, Bud has already said he's tight at the weight himself.

The only thing that could be worse than a high speed crash is a point blank bullet to the head, Bud is one of the few to come through that one

Cask wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 13:17

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 07:32

MightyWarrior wrote: ↑31 Jul 2023, 06:35 I know no one wants to hear it in the midst of the rightful acclaim for an all-time great performance, but imo Spence looked a shot fighter in there, to be brutally honest.

I mean an elite level P4P fighter like Spence was, wouldn’t normally get his legs turned to jelly by that 2nd round punch - on the button yes but hardly a fight changing bomb. The signs were there in the last fight when he looked at sea briefly, which we’d never seen before, but just assumed/hoped it was a weird fluke.

Saw Roy Jones talking about it, he said ain't nobody getting thrown from a car at over a hundred miles an hour and being the same physically ever again, was talking about how his face came apart so early in the fight and that it could be down to him having plastic surgery. I hope he doesn't go through with the rematch and if his team care about him they will talk him out of it. An extra 7lbs isn't going to help at all, Bud has already said he's tight at the weight himself.

The only thing that could be worse than a high speed crash is a point blank bullet to the head, Bud is one of the few to come through that one

He was a lucky boy that's for sure.

MightyWarrior wrote: ↑30 Jul 2023, 11:50 Buds the best fighter in the world.

Reminded me of that other super fight, when Sanchez smashed Gomez early, and turned a fight for the ages into a miss match ~ with the other man showing tremendous, otherworldly bravery.
as did Errol Spence. I actually think he probably lost his undefeated record to that near death car crash. You don’t come back from that 100%, maybe the weight as well. But Bud would’ve beaten him anyway.
His corner “the teacher” Derrick James can go f**ck himself, Arrogant fool, should’ve saved his badly beaten fighter long before that.

Great cornerwork work from Bo Mac. Absolutely cool head, just like the great Terence Bud Crawford..

And John Rawlings, don’t talk over the ring entrances, bonehead.

Sanchez-Gomez came to mind when I was watching,. Lot of similarities.

Crawford-Spence Event Generated More Than $21,000,000 In Ticket Sales At T-Mobile Arena

The Terence Crawford-Errol Spence superfight produced an undisputed welterweight champion and a massive live gate. (photo by Ryan Hafey)

More than $21,000,000 in ticket sales were generated from the July 29 Showtime Pay-Per-View event from T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas, according to a report from the always reliable Sports Business Journal. The show drew an announced crowd of 19,900, which saw Crawford (40-0, 31KOs) become the first male boxer in the four-belt era to claim undisputed championship status in two weight divisions following his ninth-round stoppage of Spence.

The figure is by far the highest gate produced by either boxer, and the second largest box-office haul among all boxing events in 2023. Only the Gervonta Davis-Ryan Garcia superfight did bigger business on the year. Their April 22 event—also at T-Mobile Arena—produced an estimated $22.8 million in ticket sales and more than $100,000,000 in revenue from a reported 1.2 million PPV units sold.

PPV estimates for Spence-Crawford were not yet available, with the range still too wide for Boxing Scene to accurately report as this goes to publication.

Nevertheless, the immediate financial success is a game changer especially for Crawford (40-0, 31KOs), whose lone knock on his stellar career was his ability to produce a big event. The unbeaten switch-hitter from Omaha, Nebraska has always produced favorable TV ratings and sold-out crowds in his hometown but never enjoyed a breakthrough PPV event until he landed the legacy defining fight versus Spence that he craved for more than five years.

Spence (28-1, 22KOs) developed as a huge draw at home in the greater Dallas region. The 33-year-old southpaw surpassed $5,000,000 in ticket sales in his tenth-round knockout of Yordenis Ugas to win the WBA welterweight title and defend his WBC and IBF belts last April 16 at AT&T Stadium, home to the NFL’s Dallas Cowboys.

The same venue hosted Spence’s twelve-round points win over former two-division titlist Danny Garcia. Their December 2020 title fight came during the pandemic and social distancing but still generated $2,615,075 from 14,508 tickets sold.

Crawford was never a part of a PPV event that previously surpassed 200,000 buys or which produced the type of financial windfall that will come from by far the biggest win of his career. The one-sided nature of his win saw Crawford stake his claim as the sport’s best pound-for-pound fighter in the world and fully unify all four major titles along with the lineal championship in the welterweight division.

Spence headlined his fifth consecutive PPV event, albeit as he suffered his first defeat. The 2012 U.S. entered as the unified WBC/WBA/IBF welterweight titlist, but was battered and dropped three times before referee Harvey Dock waved off the contest in the ninth round.

The ticket haul saw event presenter Premier Boxing Champions and Showtime claim its second gate north of $20,000,000 in 2023, as the entities also took the lead in the Davis-Garcia show.

There is a shot at a third PPV event landing on the list, with the September 30 Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez-Jermell Charlo undisputed super middleweight championship to also take place at T-Mobile Arena. Guadalajara’s Alvarez (59-2-2, 39KOs) was part of three of the six highest-grossing events to ever take place in Las Vegas.

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I see that Spence has been banned by the Nevada Athletic Commission for 60 days, most possibly on medical advice. I don't think this is usual. One thing that hasn't been mentioned much is why they felt the need to have a doctor in his corner as early as round 4.

revporl wrote: ↑09 Aug 2023, 05:42 I see that Spence has been banned by the Nevada Athletic Commission for 60 days, most possibly on medical advice. I don't think this is usual. One thing that hasn't been mentioned much is why they felt the need to have a doctor in his corner as early as round 4.

it's normal for the commission to suspend boxers after a fight.

Sometimes from KO losses even.