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Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑12 Aug 2023, 18:59 Wilder KOs AJ

Probably does now. That fight would always have been a case of whoever lands first winning. Trouble for AJ is that he waits so long nowadays, he’s almost certainly not landing first.

golden_balls wrote: ↑12 Aug 2023, 18:56Nordic Nightnurse downgraded to 6'8 now by E Hearn

6'6 from the horse's mouth. He's pretty much bang between AJ and Fury in the photos I've seen. Marketing hype, innit.

Tyson was always 5'11.5 instead of his real 5'10, even though it was mentioned he'd measured the latter during the commentary to one of his early fights.

stevec@france wrote: ↑12 Aug 2023, 19:02

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑12 Aug 2023, 18:59 Wilder KOs AJ

well based on that slow tentative approach yes

You say tentative, I say measured.

Mcgregor is morphing into the post career Robert De Niro version of Lamotta.

He didn't overextend himself because he didn't have to, but the question remains could he. He'll need to roll some dice versus Wilder, so we'll find out.

The Gratest wrote: ↑12 Aug 2023, 19:04 Mcgregor is morphing into the post career Robert De Niro version of Lamotta.

drunk/coked up uncle ruining christmas again

golden_balls wrote: ↑12 Aug 2023, 16:24

Kilburn wrote: ↑12 Aug 2023, 16:22 Is it me or does Hrgovic almost look like he needs his arm twisted to do this boxing malarkey.

he reminds me of Yoka.

McKean doing a Tyson Fury now on klitschko/Hrg

hergvic is over rated based on an amateur career and wont last against any elite fighter

jwfg wrote: ↑12 Aug 2023, 19:03

stevec@france wrote: ↑12 Aug 2023, 19:02

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑12 Aug 2023, 18:59 Wilder KOs AJ

well based on that slow tentative approach yes

You say tentative, I say measured.

He's gun shy, Andy Ruiz ruined him.

it's almost been a year again since wilder last boxed . seems like he's half retired , josh is trying to be a slick boxer. fury is fighting an mma guy.

we need a new generation to step up....

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑12 Aug 2023, 19:10 it's almost been a year again since wilder last boxed . seems like he's half retired , josh is trying to be a slick boxer. fury is fighting an mma guy.

we need a new generation to step up....

ddd stepping up to usyk in a few weeks .

stevec@france wrote: ↑12 Aug 2023, 19:12

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑12 Aug 2023, 19:10 it's almost been a year again since wilder last boxed . seems like he's half retired , josh is trying to be a slick boxer. fury is fighting an mma guy.

we need a new generation to step up....

ddd stepping up to usyk in a few weeks .

That’s the generation that got stopped byJoe Joyce and almost got done by Kevin Lerena. He said we need a new generation.

jameswilson wrote: ↑12 Aug 2023, 19:14

stevec@france wrote: ↑12 Aug 2023, 19:12

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑12 Aug 2023, 19:10 it's almost been a year again since wilder last boxed . seems like he's half retired , josh is trying to be a slick boxer. fury is fighting an mma guy.

we need a new generation to step up....

ddd stepping up to usyk in a few weeks .

That’s the generation that got stopped byJoe Joyce and almost got done by Kevin Lerena. He said we need a new generation.

I know but thats all we are getting right now.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑12 Aug 2023, 19:10 it's almost been a year again since wilder last boxed . seems like he's half retired , josh is trying to be a slick boxer. fury is fighting an mma guy.

we need a new generation to step up....

bosh

at points in that fight, Fisher was doing peekaboo à la Mike. if someone teaches him to build everything off that jab, he could be golota without mental problems

I haven't seen the fight but reading accounts of it, it sounds like AJ is still gun shy and unlikely to trouble Wilder.

In the end he got the highlight reel KO. And that's all that will be remembered and all that was needed to build the Wilder fight.

Redback Rasta wrote: ↑12 Aug 2023, 19:49 I haven't seen the fight but reading accounts of it, it sounds like AJ is still gun shy and unlikely to trouble Wilder.

wilder was troubled by artur szpilka, eric molina, gerald washington, twice by ortiz.......i wouldnt be sure on it. it's like people have had their memories erased of wilder's career. he's also 38 in a few months, had gruelling stoppage losses in 2 of his last 3, and hasnt completed a round in almost 2 years. it's a risky fight for him too.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑12 Aug 2023, 19:57

Redback Rasta wrote: ↑12 Aug 2023, 19:49 I haven't seen the fight but reading accounts of it, it sounds like AJ is still gun shy and unlikely to trouble Wilder.

wilder was troubled by artur szpilka, eric molina, gerald washington, twice by ortiz.......i wouldnt be sure on it. it's like people have had their memories erased of wilder's career. he's also 38 in a few months

Boxing isn't dancing. It isn't about being pretty or technical. Wilder just knocks people out and he'll knock Joshua out..

oh sure, maybe he does, but he's been troubled by several opponents worse and lighter hitting than joshua. it's a risky fight for an inactive 38 year old

Joshua looks like he is still scared of getting hit/getting Andy Ruiz'd, he was flinching a lot against someone that wasn't showing any power and was there to survive.

Wilder's chin against Fury was insane. it doesn't die. AJ's chin is shot. Wilder bangs more than AJ. I can't see how Wilder loses this fight, but we won't know until it happens, I guess.

And there's no way Wilder is nervous going into it.

wilder is nervous going into pretty much every fight, people always focus so much on his knockouts that they forget how stand offish he is until he hurts someone

he's barely been touched since fury ktfo him and is closing in on 40, im not sure his chin will be holding up like it has. i thought fury hurt him easier in fight 3 than fight 2 as well

It could all depend on the size and weight of his ring entrance costume.

Wilder sucks, but he does have pretty legitimate power, which he carries late. He is made more dangerous by the fact that he throws from strange angles given that he never learned to box properly.

Despite spending over 95% of his career avoiding challenges, when he finally thought enough time had passed to safely "step up", he actually ended up showing quite a lot of heart, grit, and tenacity in losing efforts.

His grit alone will be more than enough to propel him past AJ.

The Gratest wrote: ↑12 Aug 2023, 20:11 It could all depend on the size and weight of his ring entrance costume.

good point, also whether his trainer posions him and his opponent has floppy eggweight gloves