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SeanBrennan wrote: ↑26 Nov 2023, 13:22 popped Monzon on ignore so I don't have to read his bitterness towards women and anyone else different. His mum'll be calling him for dinner soon so we'll get a break.

hes posting anti gypsy sentiment on the john fury thread so i will join you. not my cup of tea.

Cameron got old manned, she was too hesitant because Taylor left the head there and then wrapped her up, so Cameron gave her too much space.
She didn't have a plan B

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑26 Nov 2023, 13:21

Monzon83 wrote: ↑26 Nov 2023, 12:53 Isn’t there a woman’s section for this crap?

Can we keep this in there.

If you don't like reading it, scroll on boy.

In fairness to Monzon he’s only saying what a lot of people are thinking.

Without the attendant hype and hysterical overreaction of commentators and pundits, all of whom are desperate to keep their seat on the DAZN gravy train, nobody on here would deem that fight worthy of a comment.

It was a scrappy, frustrating fight between two fighters who didn’t have the skill or the physical attributes to avoid cancelling each other out.

Had that been a 6 round prelim fight on the undercard of a men’s card we’d have said “yeah couple of really game fighters but probably best not to give up your day jobs lads” . The ref’s lack of intervention to stop the constant butting and holding would’ve been the most noteworthy aspect of the fight

I don’t know because I’m not as versed in the intricacies of boxing as many on here but I genuinely ask the question, was that even area level standard ?

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑27 Nov 2023, 08:44

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑26 Nov 2023, 13:21

Monzon83 wrote: ↑26 Nov 2023, 12:53 Isn’t there a woman’s section for this crap?

Can we keep this in there.

If you don't like reading it, scroll on boy.

In fairness to Monzon he’s only saying what a lot of people are thinking.

It's not what I'm thinking. If you don't like it, don't post in this thread. I

I'll move this to women's now for further debates

jwfg wrote: ↑27 Nov 2023, 09:23

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑27 Nov 2023, 08:44

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑26 Nov 2023, 13:21

If you don't like reading it, scroll on boy.

In fairness to Monzon he’s only saying what a lot of people are thinking.

It's not what I'm thinking. If you don't like it, don't post in this thread. I

Amen, I bet the trilogy fight is going to be massive!

Coco wrote: ↑27 Nov 2023, 07:06 Cameron got old manned, she was too hesitant because Taylor left the head there and then wrapped her up, so Cameron gave her too much space.
She didn't have a plan B

I love that old manned phrase, it's a proper thing isn't it, so many fights won through that.

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑27 Nov 2023, 16:14

Coco wrote: ↑27 Nov 2023, 07:06 Cameron got old manned, she was too hesitant because Taylor left the head there and then wrapped her up, so Cameron gave her too much space.
She didn't have a plan B

I love that old manned phrase, it's a proper thing isn't it, so many fights won through that.

Jamie Moore knows his onions, it was clearly a planned tactic

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑27 Nov 2023, 08:44I don’t know because I’m not as versed in the intricacies of boxing as many on here but I genuinely ask the question, was that even area level standard ?

Fairly typical of it IME. I've seen better and worse in halls. Cameron had the nous to look for uppercuts when Taylor wanted to hold, and likewise Taylor grabbed her advantage when Cameron backed off to create space, filling those spaces with flurries into the next clinch. But this is spot on:

It was a scrappy, frustrating fight between two fighters who didn’t have the skill or the physical attributes to avoid cancelling each other out.

It was screaming for 3-minute rounds, perhaps even more so than Shields-Marshall.

I don't know if Taylor can't go the distance without gassing any more, or whether she'd actually be fresher late without so much holding. It seemed she realised it nullified Cameron and was happy to commit sizeable energy to it.

Wonder if Loma's camp might train Cameron for the third? Help her turn some more angles in sparring.

Grilling Machine wrote: ↑27 Nov 2023, 18:45

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑27 Nov 2023, 08:44I don’t know because I’m not as versed in the intricacies of boxing as many on here but I genuinely ask the question, was that even area level standard ?

Fairly typical of it IME. I've seen better and worse in halls. Cameron had the nous to look for uppercuts when Taylor wanted to hold, and likewise Taylor grabbed her advantage when Cameron backed off to create space, filling those spaces with flurries into the next clinch. But this is spot on:

It was a scrappy, frustrating fight between two fighters who didn’t have the skill or the physical attributes to avoid cancelling each other out.

It was screaming for 3-minute rounds, perhaps even more so than Shields-Marshall.

I don't know if Taylor can't go the distance without gassing any more, or whether she'd actually be fresher late without so much holding. It seemed she realised it nullified Cameron and was happy to commit sizeable energy to it.

Wonder if Loma's camp might train Cameron for the third? Help her turn some more angles in sparring.

Thanks Grilling, it’s good to get an honest and informed perspective of the fight without the implication that I’m a misogynist for even asking about it

Coco wrote: ↑27 Nov 2023, 18:09

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑27 Nov 2023, 16:14

Coco wrote: ↑27 Nov 2023, 07:06 Cameron got old manned, she was too hesitant because Taylor left the head there and then wrapped her up, so Cameron gave her too much space.
She didn't have a plan B

I love that old manned phrase, it's a proper thing isn't it, so many fights won through that.

Jamie Moore knows his onions, it was clearly a planned tactic

really looks after his fighters too, so good to see. Thriving gym he has.