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Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Derek Chisora - 4 April 2026

Posted: 05 Apr 2026, 11:55
by JamesPhilips
golden_labrador wrote: 05 Apr 2026, 11:48
JamesPhilips wrote: 05 Apr 2026, 11:41
golden_labrador wrote: 05 Apr 2026, 11:38

it's in the worst newspaper, so it's in its right place
It is awful, but this is genuinely one of the most laughable, jaw dropping articles I’ve ever read…. And by a guy who has worked in boxing for 50 years or whatever.
maybe he's lost his marbles and one of his carers is churning out AI articles and putting his name on it
TBF that makes sense… I mean it’s the most reasonable explanation I’ve heard :lol: seriously….

Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Derek Chisora - 4 April 2026

Posted: 05 Apr 2026, 12:30
by dookus
golden_labrador wrote: 05 Apr 2026, 11:48
JamesPhilips wrote: 05 Apr 2026, 11:41
golden_labrador wrote: 05 Apr 2026, 11:38

it's in the worst newspaper, so it's in its right place
It is awful, but this is genuinely one of the most laughable, jaw dropping articles I’ve ever read…. And by a guy who has worked in boxing for 50 years or whatever.
maybe he's lost his marbles and one of his carers is churning out AI articles and putting his name on it
:lol:

Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Derek Chisora - 4 April 2026

Posted: 05 Apr 2026, 12:35
by Glass Joe
I think chisora will be back for a pay day against moses like dillian whyte

Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Derek Chisora - 4 April 2026

Posted: 05 Apr 2026, 14:49
by KiwiRider
Glass Joe wrote: 05 Apr 2026, 12:35 I think chisora will be back for a pay day against moses like dillian whyte
That was the worst shape I've seen him in as far as I can recall.
If he wants another fight, I doubt his motivation.

Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Derek Chisora - 4 April 2026

Posted: 06 Apr 2026, 14:23
by Ruthless-RKO
Referee Mark Bates will not face any disciplinary action for his performance officiating the Derek Chisora vs Deontay Wilder fight, The Ring has learned.

The British Boxing Board of Control were satisfied with Bates’ performance, their general secretary Robert Smith, has confirmed to The Ring.


Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Derek Chisora - 4 April 2026

Posted: 06 Apr 2026, 15:34
by golden_labrador
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 06 Apr 2026, 14:23 Referee Mark Bates will not face any disciplinary action for his performance officiating the Derek Chisora vs Deontay Wilder fight, The Ring has learned.

The British Boxing Board of Control were satisfied with Bates’ performance, their general secretary Robert Smith, has confirmed to The Ring.

he went above and beyond the call of duty to protect the home fighter as much as he could, so he's safe. he most likely stopped a clear KO from happening by splitting them up for no clear reason at one point :yay:

Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Derek Chisora - 4 April 2026

Posted: 07 Apr 2026, 03:28
by Ruthless-RKO
‘I didn’t agree’: Derek Chisora reacts to Deontay Wilder loss

Chisora on his reaction to sharing the ring with Wilder
“Good 12 rounds. He can hit. [The power is good]. He loads it up, though. So he’s got a tell sign: before he chucks, he loads it up. But when he gets you, he can hit.

“I didn’t agree [with the scorecards]. The ropes were very loose. I went on the ropes, he fell in me, pushed me, [ref] said break and it broke, I went through the ropes, they start counting. The second time they took a point [from Wilder] and they still counted me out but I don’t understand why. Listen, it is what it is.”

On if he thinks he should’ve won the fight
“Yeah. The last round, I won the last round. I don’t know how you guys scored it…He likes to hold a lot. I thought he was very good inside but he was not good inside, he likes to hold a lot…I love Deontay but I know I broke two things: his hand and his rib ‘cause right now he can’t talk and stand.”

“Wilder’s got power for the first three rounds and after he fades away but he’s always got that power. I don’t want to take that away from him, he’s got power.”

On the biggest less he’s learned in his career
“That it don’t matter if they’re sitting next to you on your left or right, they’re still scumbags.”



Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Derek Chisora - 4 April 2026

Posted: 07 Apr 2026, 03:31
by Ruthless-RKO
‘I held back a couple of times’: Deontay Wilder admits feeling sympathy in Derek Chisora fight

Wilder on facing Chisora in a farewell fight
“Look, the man done fought everybody. As a fighter you can only wish to fight as many credible fighter as he has done so why not be able to retire at this point in time? Even in the ring I was thinking about his retirement. It was times where my team say ‘alright, it’s time to push forward and put a little bit more pressure’ but I held back a couple of times because when I cut his eye open I started thinking about him being with his children. When I saw veins coming out of his temple I started thinking about ‘this is a dangerous sport.’

“I felt a little sympathy for him, I even was talking to him. I was like ‘Derek, come on bro. We need to stop this, man.’ He didn’t say nothing, then I started saying it again ‘come on, Derek’ and then he said ‘you hit like a b—tch.’”

On telling Chisora he loved him during the fight just before attempting to unload a haymaker
“I did tell him I love him, because I truly do. When I say things to people, I truly mean it. And I think this just brought us even closer. Derek is a wonderful man outside of boxing…It’s just a beautiful moment. I’m happy to be able to share that ring with him.”

On feeling vindicated after this performance
“Like I said before, many people doubted me, many people counted me out. Many people threw dirt on my name, but you can’t throw dirt on someone who’s chosen. I’m chosen. And each and every time I step into the ring, every time I train I’m getting better and better and better together. I’m truly healed and I’m truly back.”

On the terrible officiating
“It’s crazy. If the ref was fair you’re looking at a third round stoppage. So many things went on. I got hit in the back of the head at least 10 to 12 different times. And then when I finally want to retaliate and hit back you point fingers at me.

“You know how many fighters got hit in the head and don’t wake up tomorrow? That’s why I might not even go to sleep tonight because of the awareness of getting hit in the back of the head and you not waking up tomorrow, or something happening or something forming. I feel good externally but internally something may be developing inside of me that I can’t see right now because a referee decided to allow something to happen that shouldn’t have happened.

“And then it was supposed to be a disqualification because his team ran up in the ring. I mean damn, I’m fighting Derek and the referee. It’s crazy.”

On whether this experience would deter him from fighting Anthony Joshua in the UK
“No, it wouldn’t. I mean, one bad apple doesn’t spoil the show for me. I love coming over here where some of the best fans in the world is…When you get certain referees, you know, it’s a scary thing.

“I just hope and pray that the boxing commission, the people do something about these things. That referee should be able to ref again. That’s just my honest opinion.”

Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Derek Chisora - 4 April 2026

Posted: 07 Apr 2026, 04:01
by Ruthless-RKO
British Board chooses not to punish Chisora-Wilder referee Mark Bates

e no disciplinary action for his performance during Saturday’s heavyweight brawl between Deontay Wilder and Derek Chisora, The Ring has learned.

Bates took charge of the MF Pro main event at London’s O2 Arena but was heavily criticized for some of his actions during the 12 rounds.

Wilder claimed he was hit in the back of the head by Chisora “10-12 times” and insisted that Bates, a highly experienced official from Surrey, England, should be struck off.

“I just hope and pray the boxing commissions, the people, do something about these things,” Wilder said during his post-fight press conference. “That referee shouldn’t be allowed to ref again.”

The fight took place under the auspices of the British Boxing Board of Control and now its general secretary, Robert Smith, has told the Ring they were satisfied with Bates’ performance.

A board meeting is scheduled for Wednesday when all performances will be reviewed as normal, but Smith insists that they will take no action against Bates, who they believe handled a difficult fight competently.

Aside from Chisora’s alleged rabbit punches, one of the main moments of contention took place in the first round when the pair was unable to be separated while they lay on the ropes punching each other.

At that point, a member of Chisora’s corner team, Alexis Demetriades, entered the ring which, by the letter of the law, should have resulted in an immediate disqualification.

However, Smith was satisfied that Bates used his discretion to allow the fight to continue after reminding Demetriades of his conduct. He also said a second similar breach would have definitely resulted in disqualification for the home favorite.
Wilder’s manager Shelly Finkel outlined that moment as one of five major errors made by Bates during the fight, which eventually ended in a split decision for the Bronze Bomber.

Finkel said: “One, if your corner enters the ring, it’s an automatic disqualification. Number two, if you’re knocked out of the ring you have 20 seconds to get in but you’re not allowed to be helped by your corner. Number three, if you get hit and you’re falling but you grab the rope, it’s an automatic eight-count. Number four, if you get hit after the bell, it’s the ref’s discretion to take a point off. Number five, when Derek stepped back and touched his eye, that’s not allowed. You either stop the fight or you don’t interfere. These are the rules of the game. I’m glad my guy won because I thought he was going to get robbed.”

Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Derek Chisora - 4 April 2026

Posted: 07 Apr 2026, 04:08
by gilgamesh
I wonder if they would've felt he handled it competently if he would've deducted a point from Chisora for no reason whatsoever.

Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Derek Chisora - 4 April 2026

Posted: 07 Apr 2026, 08:27
by Flump
it was a very difficult fight to handle, but it certainly wasn't the ref's best night. He was never going to DQ Chisora for the cornerman entering the ring in those circumstances, but there were some decisions that were strange. And I see A-side Phil Edwards still gets work as a judge.

Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Derek Chisora - 4 April 2026

Posted: 08 Apr 2026, 06:16
by Ruthless-RKO

Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Derek Chisora - 4 April 2026

Posted: 08 Apr 2026, 06:17
by Ruthless-RKO
Entirely against the rules. In that situation you either stop it or dont. There's no, hey, hold, on do you want to quit? Stop that nonsense.


Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Derek Chisora - 4 April 2026

Posted: 08 Apr 2026, 08:19
by joshj909
gilgamesh wrote: 07 Apr 2026, 04:08 I wonder if they would've felt he handled it competently if he would've deducted a point from Chisora for no reason whatsoever.
Was it for continuously pushing Chisora out of the ring? I was watching without sound so I didn't hear the explanation but it was 3 times where Chisora ended up between/over the ropes I think. Watching without the sound meant I had no idea when and why counts were given though which was unhelpful for a fight reffed like this.

Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Derek Chisora - 4 April 2026

Posted: 08 Apr 2026, 08:34
by Glass Joe


wilder was trying to create the HBK flair match :OhYes:

Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Derek Chisora - 4 April 2026

Posted: 08 Apr 2026, 10:09
by Ruthless-RKO
Performance of Deontay Wilder-Derek Chisora referee Mark Bates to be reviewed

The performances of Deontay Wilder and Derek Chisora were praised and criticized in equal measure following their chaotic and occasionally exciting heavyweight 12-rounder on Saturday night, won eventually by the former via split decision. Yet it was universally perceived to be a bad night for the third man in the ring at London, England’s O2 Arena; the referee Mark Bates.

It had been reported that Bates would face no action from the British Boxing Board of Control but the General Secretary, Robert Smith, on Wednesday told Boxing Scene that wasn’t necessarily true. There will be a review of the fight at Wednesday’s board meeting where the performance of Bates will be discussed.

“We’re certainly going to look carefully at it,” said Smith. “In situations like this there will always be a review. Once it’s reviewed, a decision is then made if further action is required.”

Bates came under fire for several incidents. The first one came early in the bout and set the tone. Wilder and Chisora became entwined on the ropes and neither, despite being instructed to stop grappling by Bates, was willing to let go. The official then tried and failed to separate the heavyweights, who weighed a cumulative 494lbs, before Chisora’s corner man Alexis Demetriades entered the ring. Had Bates applied the rules to the letter, Chisora would have been disqualified.

In certain situations, however, referees are encouraged to use their discretion. Given the magnitude of the contest, how many fans had paid to watch – both at home and in the arena – and what was at stake for both boxers, Bates’ decision to let the fight go on could potentially be justified. And had that been the only incident, it would likely have been forgotten.

But there were more to come. Most notably in the eighth round when Chisora fell through the ropes and appeared to be helped back upright by his corner.

“The initial reaction [when a fighter is falling towards you] is always to put your hands up,” said Smith, who was ringside on Saturday night. “They certainly stopped him from going through the ropes and falling to the ground... We will be looking at it.”

Both were guilty of hitting to the back of the head, too, with Wilder claiming he was tagged illegally “10-12 times”. Only Wilder was punished for any infringements; he lost a point in that eighth session for pushing. There were also complaints from Team Wilder about hitting after the bell, Chisora granting himself a break by complaining about pain in his eye and the British veteran not getting an eight-count after grabbing the rope to stay upright.

“It was a rough-and-ready fight, and it was a very difficult fight to referee,” Smith said. “It will all be reviewed.”

Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Derek Chisora - 4 April 2026

Posted: 08 Apr 2026, 13:15
by gilgamesh
joshj909 wrote: 08 Apr 2026, 08:19
gilgamesh wrote: 07 Apr 2026, 04:08 I wonder if they would've felt he handled it competently if he would've deducted a point from Chisora for no reason whatsoever.
Was it for continuously pushing Chisora out of the ring? I was watching without sound so I didn't hear the explanation but it was 3 times where Chisora ended up between/over the ropes I think. Watching without the sound meant I had no idea when and why counts were given though which was unhelpful for a fight reffed like this.
He claimed it was for a push yes, but Chisora just kept falling down on his own when they would clinch, and Wilder would land some punches. Anytime it looked like he might be wobbled or about to go down, he'd pull Wilder down with him or at least try to.

Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Derek Chisora - 4 April 2026

Posted: 09 Apr 2026, 09:03
by Ruthless-RKO
Deontay Wilder-Derek Chisora referee: No action to be taken against Mark Bates after review

After reviewing the performance of the referee for Saturday’s 12-round non-title heavyweight clash between Deontay Wilder and Derek Chisora, the British Boxing Board of Control will take no further action.

Mark Bates, who has refereed 807 bouts since 2017, came under fire from split-decision winner Wilder, Wilder’s manager Shelly Finkel, and multiple voices on social media, for his apparent failure to retain control of a chaotic contest staged at London’s O2 Arena.

The controversy began at the end of the opening round when the two grappling heavyweights refused to be prized apart. They tumbled into the ropes with Bates in tow before one of Chisora’s trainers, Alexis Demetriades, entered the ring in an effort to assist. Though he left quickly, he was subsequently warned by Robert Smith, the BBBoC general secretary who was ringside, for his actions.

According to Smith, there is no rule within the BBBoC that prohibits trainers from entering the ring, unlike certain commissions and sanctioning bodies in America. “That’s not to say the referee can’t use their discretion and issue a disqualification,” Smith explained to Boxing Scene. “And boxers have been disqualified under similar circumstances, albeit when the trainer interferes with the fight or they enter the ring more than once. But on this occasion, the referee used his discretion, understood it was right at the beginning of the fight and, aside from the trainer being warned, no action was taken. We accept that.”

Another incident, which came in the eighth round, saw Chisora tumble through the ropes and appear to be helped up by a member of his team. Smith, who was sat near the fall, did not immediately conclude that Chisora was assisted in his rise.

“I thought [Chisora] was held but, watching it in real time, I did not believe he was helped up. Certainly, he was instinctively stopped from falling onto the television monitors. I’m not saying I’m wrong or right, but it is important to remember that the referee does not get to see multiple replays from multiple angles. He has a split second to make a decision based on what he can see.”

The other incident that drew significant irk was when Chisora, complaining about pain in his eye, seemed to instigate his own timeout. “The referee explained that it all happened exceptionally quickly, and he briefly intervened because he initially didn’t understand what Chisora was saying to him.”

Though Bates’ performance triggered opinions aplenty on social media, and Smith himself was spoken to by Finkel on the night, no official complaints were filed to the BBBoC.

Should the Board have found Bates’ performance to have been problematic, the official would have been called to explain his actions. If his explanation was not satisfactory, then action would have been taken.

“During my time, numerous officials have been called before the Board to explain,” Smith added. “We have withdrawn licences or downgraded officials. On this occasion, however, the Board did not believe any further action was necessary and were satisfied that he refereed a messy fight in an honest manner.”

Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Derek Chisora - 4 April 2026

Posted: 10 Apr 2026, 04:51
by golden_labrador
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 08 Apr 2026, 10:09 Performance of Deontay Wilder-Derek Chisora referee Mark Bates to be reviewed





..Chisora granting himself a break by complaining about pain in his eye...
:lol:

Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Derek Chisora - 4 April 2026

Posted: 11 Apr 2026, 18:42
by Ruthless-RKO

Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Derek Chisora - 4 April 2026

Posted: 11 Apr 2026, 18:44
by gilgamesh
I actually don't mind a rematch. Next time do it in America with a different referee though.

This is one fight Wilder could win and stay in the mix for a future fight with AJ or Usyk. Anyone else he probably couldn't beat, and even though Chisora is probably damaging himself by continuing to fight on whatever it's his life.

Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Derek Chisora - 4 April 2026

Posted: 15 Apr 2026, 11:54
by Lenny Cravats
Ricky wrote: 04 Apr 2026, 18:52 At least the judges didn't make a fool of themselves.
I didn't see the fight, and I haven't caught up on it.

Boxrec's fan scores have Delboy winning... Is this people taking the piss?

Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Derek Chisora - 4 April 2026

Posted: 15 Apr 2026, 20:47
by tiny_acres
Lenny Cravats wrote: 15 Apr 2026, 11:54
Ricky wrote: 04 Apr 2026, 18:52 At least the judges didn't make a fool of themselves.
I didn't see the fight, and I haven't caught up on it.

Boxrec's fan scores have Delboy winning... Is this people taking the piss?
I had Wilder clearly ahead in this fight. Can't see anyone scoring it for Chisora