Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk | PPV - 18 May 2024

[The Gratest]

[mickey1975]

Beyond Parody is Big John, he'll never be happy until he's worked his way back in as Tyson's lead trainer

He kicked off with Ben after the Wallin fight didn’t he?

That's right

To be fair, it was an inspired move. If I remember rightly it was Big Shane who was very vocal about how unhappy he was during the Wallin camp. Shane seemed to be his dad’s eyes and ears for the US camps. Then, Tyson and Andy Lee came up with Sugar. Freddie Roach had already said he could have easily beaten Wilder with their right tactics I.e coming forward.

[HomicideHenry]

I'm probably in a minority but I would love to see the Fury family come together again with Peter as being Tyson's trainer. At least one time before Tyson retires anyway. Then again Peter is quite a taskmaster and doesn't really tolerate any kind of nonsense.

I've always been of the opinion that Tyson chose Ben Davidson, who really had no reputation at the time, To basically prove to Peter that he really could fight or could achieve things, because after Tyson retired the 1st time Peter had made the comment that he didn't want to deal with anyone who really didn't want it.

Personally I'm of the opinion Sugar Hill was necessary for the Wilder fights, because that Kronk style was needed to have a definitive victory over Wilder. But I don't think the Kronk style is necessary or needed for the likes of Usyk, Joyce, Ruiz, Joshua, etc because those type of guys require more movement.

[mickey1975]

I'm probably in a minority but I would love to see the Fury family come together again with Peter as being Tyson's trainer. At least one time before Tyson retires anyway. Then again Peter is quite a taskmaster and doesn't really tolerate any kind of nonsense.

I've always been of the opinion that Tyson chose Ben Davidson, who really had no reputation at the time, To basically prove to Peter that he really could fight or could achieve things, because after Tyson retired the 1st time Peter had made the comment that he didn't want to deal with anyone who really didn't want it.

Personally I'm of the opinion Sugar Hill was necessary for the Wilder fights, because that Kronk style was needed to have a definitive victory over Wilder. But I don't think the Kronk style is necessary or needed for the likes of Usyk, Joyce, Ruiz, Joshua, etc because those type of guys require more movement.

Henry, Peter coming back into the fold is one of your most outrageous statements....

[Controversial]

Bob Arum has stated that Oleksandr Usyk was set to make in the region of $20million for the Tyson Fury fight if it happened on April 29th at Wembley Stadium, whereas the deal he'd previously agreed with the Saudis would have seen him make $60million. [@SteveKim323]

[Nightmare Roy]

Bob Arum has stated that Oleksandr Usyk was set to make in the region of $20million for the Tyson Fury fight if it happened on April 29th at Wembley Stadium, whereas the deal he'd previously agreed with the Saudis would have seen him make $60million. [@SteveKim323]

...and he still tried his best to make it happen, if he was gonna get 60m how much was Tyson gonna make? He REALLY REALLY doesn't fancy the Usyk fight does he.

[Spud]

Bob Arum has stated that Oleksandr Usyk was set to make in the region of $20million for the Tyson Fury fight if it happened on April 29th at Wembley Stadium, whereas the deal he'd previously agreed with the Saudis would have seen him make $60million. [@SteveKim323]

...and he still tried his best to make it happen, if he was gonna get 60m how much was Tyson gonna make? He REALLY REALLY doesn't fancy the Usyk fight does he.

How close do you have Tyson retiring for good?

[HomicideHenry]

I'm probably in a minority but I would love to see the Fury family come together again with Peter as being Tyson's trainer. At least one time before Tyson retires anyway. Then again Peter is quite a taskmaster and doesn't really tolerate any kind of nonsense.

I've always been of the opinion that Tyson chose Ben Davidson, who really had no reputation at the time, To basically prove to Peter that he really could fight or could achieve things, because after Tyson retired the 1st time Peter had made the comment that he didn't want to deal with anyone who really didn't want it.

Personally I'm of the opinion Sugar Hill was necessary for the Wilder fights, because that Kronk style was needed to have a definitive victory over Wilder. But I don't think the Kronk style is necessary or needed for the likes of Usyk, Joyce, Ruiz, Joshua, etc because those type of guys require more movement.

Henry, Peter coming back into the fold is one of your most outrageous statements....

I said I would like to see it happen I didn't say it would happen.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Bob Arum has stated that Oleksandr Usyk was set to make in the region of $20million for the Tyson Fury fight if it happened on April 29th at Wembley Stadium, whereas the deal he'd previously agreed with the Saudis would have seen him make $60million. [@SteveKim323]

...and he still tried his best to make it happen, if he was gonna get 60m how much was Tyson gonna make? He REALLY REALLY doesn't fancy the Usyk fight does he.

How close do you have Tyson retiring for good?

Let's be honest, nobody bloody knows, not even Fury himself, he could retire tomorrow in a fit of peeve, or decide that he's going to become a country and western singer, or a baptist preacher - who bloody knows.

My guess is he fights just once this year, April's not happening, probably end of the Summer, against someone who is happy to take the short end, he will harp on about fighting Joyce, Usyk, Joshua (if he looks good in his currrent fight) - but the truth is he won't take on any of them unless they are prepared to accept the very thin end of the wedge.

I reckon he has 3 more fights, then probably retire - before an ill advised comeback afte more parping on about his mental health and how he needs boxing, blah blah blah, - where he gets battered to shite, or looks to terrible he jacks it in again.

[Nightmare Roy]

Bob Arum has stated that Oleksandr Usyk was set to make in the region of $20million for the Tyson Fury fight if it happened on April 29th at Wembley Stadium, whereas the deal he'd previously agreed with the Saudis would have seen him make $60million. [@SteveKim323]

...and he still tried his best to make it happen, if he was gonna get 60m how much was Tyson gonna make? He REALLY REALLY doesn't fancy the Usyk fight does he.

How close do you have Tyson retiring for good?

I actually think he'll probably have a couple of fights with AJ this year and then knock it on the head or a big money novelty fight.

[samwbr]

...and he still tried his best to make it happen, if he was gonna get 60m how much was Tyson gonna make? He REALLY REALLY doesn't fancy the Usyk fight does he.

How close do you have Tyson retiring for good?

I actually think he'll probably have a couple of fights with AJ this year and then knock it on the head or a big money novelty fight.

Can see 1 not 2.

[Nightmare Roy]

How close do you have Tyson retiring for good?

I actually think he'll probably have a couple of fights with AJ this year and then knock it on the head or a big money novelty fight.

Can see 1 not 2.

Yeah maybe depends I guess, if it's an epic close fight and the rematch could generate fortunes who knows? Hearn talking it up no end today, think they should concentrate on tomorrow more than anything JF has turned up in great shape

[samwbr]

I actually think he'll probably have a couple of fights with AJ this year and then knock it on the head or a big money novelty fight.

Can see 1 not 2.

Yeah maybe depends I guess, if it's an epic close fight and the rematch could generate fortunes who knows? Hearn talking it up no end today, think they should concentrate on tomorrow more than anything JF has turned up in great shape

Absolutely, don't look past the fella in front of you.

[dan28uk]

Can see 1 not 2.

Yeah maybe depends I guess, if it's an epic close fight and the rematch could generate fortunes who knows? Hearn talking it up no end today, think they should concentrate on tomorrow more than anything JF has turned up in great shape

Absolutely, don't look past the fella in front of you.

yeah jf in much better condition than against whyte and thought he won against whyte but think that was more whytes performance than franklin

[Nightmare Roy]

Could be Ruiz mk 2 this, shouldn't be but JF is half decent and definitely up for it.

[BigDoofus]

Bob Arum has stated that Oleksandr Usyk was set to make in the region of $20million for the Tyson Fury fight if it happened on April 29th at Wembley Stadium, whereas the deal he'd previously agreed with the Saudis would have seen him make $60million. [@SteveKim323]

Both FW and Gareth Davies suggested that Usyk walked away hoping to get the Saudi cash in November/December.

[si7dog7]

Bob Arum has stated that Oleksandr Usyk was set to make in the region of $20million for the Tyson Fury fight if it happened on April 29th at Wembley Stadium, whereas the deal he'd previously agreed with the Saudis would have seen him make $60million. [@SteveKim323]

Both FW and Gareth Davies suggested that Usyk walked away hoping to get the Saudi cash in November/December.

GAD and FW?
Must be true then

TBH FW has sounded pretty frustrated himself with his own camp on all this. Repeatedly he ha said “the Usyk camp/team are easy to deal with. (Countless times)
GAD is a really bad journalist. You only have to hear him on TalkSport getting his facts wrong. All the time. A Brian May boxing wannabe. A joke.

Back to what happened.
Usyk said “enough”. Because of all the Fury fugazi and shifting goalposts. The Fury bluff was called and he looks a fool because of it.
Usyk didn’t walk away. He said “enough” and went home. Probably bored of the nonsense.

What part of all this don’t you understand?
Maybe the padded cell needs better Wi-Fi?

[The Gratest]

After calling for SugarHill to be sacked, Big John is now lashing out at Fwank W. The fallout from Fury bottling it is quite delicious.

"Get rid of them all. They all want to be his best mate but as soon as things get a bit sticky and he gets a few bad comments, people want to distance themselves from him.’

Fury Snr also laid blame at the feet of Fury’s promoter allegedly, left uneasy with his interactions with Usyk’s promoter Alexander Krassyuk and believes the champion is now being unfairly held responsible for one of the biggest fights in history falling through.

‘I’m confused, the country is confused, the world is confused. But the only ones not confused are the handlers. The promoters. They always seem to put a spanner in the works. But we are where we are. If it is meant to be, it will happen,’ Fury said."

[The Asleep Lamps]

I thought an argument over what the split would be in the rematch was what finally killed it. There also seemed an issue over whether Fury had enough to get ready for it. But that is OK there are other fights to make. The opportunity to make it will come around again, or maybe it won't but Usyk should make more money next time.

[si7dog7]

I thought an argument over what the split would be in the rematch was what finally killed it. There also seemed an issue over whether Fury had enough to get ready for it. But that is OK there are other fights to make. The opportunity to make it will come around again, or maybe it won't but Usyk should make more money next time.

I think there does come a time
When you accepted demand after demand
You do have to say. Hey “I’ve got 3 belts - do one”

This fight should have been made.

I hope Usyk gets his chance at Undisputed. Fury- I used to care. Now don’t give a rats

[Controversial]

Bob Arum has stated that Oleksandr Usyk was set to make in the region of $20million for the Tyson Fury fight if it happened on April 29th at Wembley Stadium, whereas the deal he'd previously agreed with the Saudis would have seen him make $60million. [@SteveKim323]

Both FW and Gareth Davies suggested that Usyk walked away hoping to get the Saudi cash in November/December.

TBH FW has sounded pretty frustrated himself with his own camp on all this. Repeatedly he ha said “the Usyk camp/team are easy to deal with. (Countless times)

Eddie Hearn has also said he’s dealt with the Usyk team five times and they are very easy to do business with. The Furys are known for moving the goalposts and talking nonsense so my money is on them wanting it all their own way until Usyks team gave up hitting their heads against a brick wall.

[si7dog7]

Both FW and Gareth Davies suggested that Usyk walked away hoping to get the Saudi cash in November/December.

TBH FW has sounded pretty frustrated himself with his own camp on all this. Repeatedly he ha said “the Usyk camp/team are easy to deal with. (Countless times)

Eddie Hearn has also said he’s dealt with the Usyk team five times and they are very easy to do business with. The Furys are known for moving the goalposts and talking nonsense so my money is on them wanting it all their own way until Usyks team gave up hitting their heads against a brick wall.

Totally agree
Unless there is real evidence to the contrary.
Not Instagram/Twitter “you dosser” evidence

Because the guy isn’t in training (as per Steward), it’s all a nonsense.

Fake it to get Saudi Money (Fury does) and
Then……. Who cares about a win? Does Fury really?

Usyk does.

[Nightmare Roy]

After calling for SugarHill to be sacked, Big John is now lashing out at Fwank W. The fallout from Fury bottling it is quite delicious.

"Get rid of them all. They all want to be his best mate but as soon as things get a bit sticky and he gets a few bad comments, people want to distance themselves from him.’

Fury Snr also laid blame at the feet of Fury’s promoter allegedly, left uneasy with his interactions with Usyk’s promoter Alexander Krassyuk and believes the champion is now being unfairly held responsible for one of the biggest fights in history falling through.

‘I’m confused, the country is confused, the world is confused. But the only ones not confused are the handlers. The promoters. They always seem to put a spanner in the works. But we are where we are. If it is meant to be, it will happen,’ Fury said."

Feel a bit for Tyson, he can't get away from him to the states now they are both banned.

[dan28uk]

Bob Arum has stated that Oleksandr Usyk was set to make in the region of $20million for the Tyson Fury fight if it happened on April 29th at Wembley Stadium, whereas the deal he'd previously agreed with the Saudis would have seen him make $60million. [@SteveKim323]

Both FW and Gareth Davies suggested that Usyk walked away hoping to get the Saudi cash in November/December.

GAD and FW?
Must be true then

TBH FW has sounded pretty frustrated himself with his own camp on all this. Repeatedly he ha said “the Usyk camp/team are easy to deal with. (Countless times)
GAD is a really bad journalist. You only have to hear him on TalkSport getting his facts wrong. All the time. A Brian May boxing wannabe. A joke.

Back to what happened.
Usyk said “enough”. Because of all the Fury fugazi and shifting goalposts. The Fury bluff was called and he looks a fool because of it.
Usyk didn’t walk away. He said “enough” and went home. Probably bored of the nonsense.

What part of all this don’t you understand?
Maybe the padded cell needs better Wi-Fi?

dont waste your time mate the guys a f*cking idiot

[BigDoofus]

Bob Arum has stated that Oleksandr Usyk was set to make in the region of $20million for the Tyson Fury fight if it happened on April 29th at Wembley Stadium, whereas the deal he'd previously agreed with the Saudis would have seen him make $60million. [@SteveKim323]

Both FW and Gareth Davies suggested that Usyk walked away hoping to get the Saudi cash in November/December.

GAD and FW?
Must be true then

TBH FW has sounded pretty frustrated himself with his own camp on all this. Repeatedly he ha said “the Usyk camp/team are easy to deal with. (Countless times)
GAD is a really bad journalist. You only have to hear him on TalkSport getting his facts wrong. All the time. A Brian May boxing wannabe. A joke.

Back to what happened.
Usyk said “enough”. Because of all the Fury fugazi and shifting goalposts. The Fury bluff was called and he looks a fool because of it.
Usyk didn’t walk away. He said “enough” and went home. Probably bored of the nonsense.

What part of all this don’t you understand?
Maybe the padded cell needs better Wi-Fi?

FW and Krassyuk were doing the negotiations. Both have repeatedly said that Fury wasn’t to blame. GAD has spoken to the people negotiating.
I’m unaware of anyone calling themselves si7dog7 having anything to do with the negotiations.