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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 28 Nov 2010, 14:53
by Rick Farris
CNorkusJr wrote:Thanks guys, I like passing on those little tidbits from the past, Your posts or mentions of a certain name will trigger a memory that I can relate to my fathers career and its gives me great cause to go search through a un-organized set of boxes filled with his boxing lore. (magazines,videos,scrapbooks, programs etc etc).
To be honest with you, as I look through the items, some new piece of information would be discovered that I never knew or heard of before. This is of course very thrilling to me since I thought I had it all down in my cranium before.

Only recently did I start to attend the Ring 8 meetings that have existed since the 1950's. It is there I met some of the greatest boxers from a bygone era. Many of the guys were 6,8,10 Round fighters who once filled the old club boxing scene here in the NYC area. Sunnyside Garden Arena, Ridgewood Grove Arena, Eastern Parkway Arena, old Gleason's Gym,Stillman's Gym, St. Nicks Arena, and of course the Madison Sq Garden (of 1950's fame on 50 St in NYC). Their recollections of the times past
are as valuable to me as a Tiffany Diamond.

It is of sincere nature that I pass along some of these items as time goes, not just to keep my dads memory alive, but also to share in a true love of a sport that we hold dear to us. Sometimes it can trigger a fond memory of a place that you been too( like Rick's LA Athletic Club above) or a person who was a great fighter of the past. By posting it here-we all learn something new to enjoy.
:TU: We value your contributions, Charley. You are taking us into a great era, and also to a place that literally controlled boxing for many years. We can read stories in magazines and books, but your stories are those that you cannot find in the library. It's the inside history of boxing that really lets us understand what happened. As a West Coast guy, I couldn't have a better guide thru N.Y. boxing in a historic era. Your father was a major player in heavyweight boxing during that Golden era, you were born into boxing. You learned from those who lived it.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 28 Nov 2010, 15:04
by THEHAMMER321
Frank, never heard about Ronni chasen getting killed until you posted it, I went online looking for info on the killing, seems the cops don't have a clue how it occurred other than she was shot in the chest, I had never heard of her before now, but I was wondering if Rick new her. :witzend:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 28 Nov 2010, 16:25
by Rick Farris
kikibalt wrote:Death has cast a long shadow over Hollywood

Publicist Ronni Chasen's slaying in Beverly Hills is the latest in a string of deaths that date to at least 1922, when director William Desmond Taylor was found fatally shot in his bachelor pad near 4th and Alvarado streets.
A mysterious Hollywood death

By Steve Harvey

November 28, 2010

Several days after Hollywood publicist Ronni Chasen was found shot to death in her Mercedes-Benz, a friend voiced the hope to KNBC-TV news that the case wouldn't turn into "another Black Dahlia."

The friend was referring to the 1947 slaying of aspiring actress Elizabeth Short, which has never been solved.

Of course, mysterious deaths with links to Hollywood date to at least 1922, when debonair director William Desmond Taylor was found slain in his fashionable bachelor pad near the corner of 4th and Alvarado streets.

Taylor's valet cried out the news that morning and an actress neighbor quickly notified the director's acquaintances, including those in the habit of writing love letters.

By the time officers arrived, author Sidney Kirkpatrick wrote in The Times, there "appeared to be a party at Taylor's bungalow: Paramount actors, actresses and executives rummaging through bedroom drawers and closets, a butler washing dishes and an unnamed extra walking out the front door with a case of bootleg gin.

"Everyone in the bungalow seemed to be looking for something, except the host, who was neatly laid out on the living room floor with a bullet hole in the middle of his back."

"Persons of interest" abounded: an actress with a crush on Taylor; an actress' mother with a crush on Taylor; an actress' drug dealer; a thieving valet (who may have secretly been Taylor's brother); a wife whom Taylor had deserted in the East; and a soldier from his wartime regiment whom Taylor had court-martialed for theft.

Police were pretty sure the butler didn't do it, but they were certain of little else. No one was ever arrested.

Mystery has also surrounded cases in which the authorities concluded no homicide took place.

In "Deadly Illusions," for instance, authors Samuel Marx and Joyce Vanderveen argue that director Paul Bern did not shoot himself in 1932, as the coroner had ruled. They contend that an ex-lover did in Bern, the husband of bombshell actress Jean Harlow.

In another case, the body of beautiful actress Thelma Todd was discovered in December 1935 in her Lincoln Phaeton convertible in a garage near her cafe in Pacific Palisades.

The coroner ruled she died of carbon monoxide poisoning after turning on the ignition and striking her head on the steering wheel.

But others theorized she may have been killed by a film director or an abusive ex-husband or even minions of Lucky Luciano, whom she had angered by refusing to allow casino gambling on the property.

Todd's death followed a series of show-business scandals, and "the studio bosses were worried that many of the Americans who paid to see movies wouldn't tolerate yet another," wrote authors Marvin Wolf and Katherine Mader in "Fallen Angels."

"An official finding of death by her own hand, accidental, or otherwise, put an end to speculation about murder.... A neat and tidy solution."

Then there was the case of George Reeves, TV's " Superman," who died in 1959 not by jumping out a window — as one urban myth has it — but by gunshot.

It was ruled a suicide and connected to Reeves' inability to land serious roles after his "Superman" days.

But in "Hollywood Kryptonite," authors Sam Kashner and Nancy Schoenberger assert that he may have been killed on orders of a studio executive whose wife was having an affair with Reeves.

No one, of course, thought the 1978 bludgeoning death of Bob Crane — the star of TV's "Hogan's Heroes" — in a Scottsdale, Ariz., apartment was anything but murder.

In 1994, John Henry Carpenter, a friend of Crane's and a longtime suspect, was tried for the slaying but acquitted.

Prosecutors alleged that Carpenter, who was with Crane the night before the killing, had had a falling out with the actor.

Their case hinged in part on a photograph of a speck found on the door of Carpenter's rental car, which prosecutors said was fatty matter from Crane's skull.

Unfortunately, the speck was lost before the trial started. "What was the speck?" asked the jury foreman later.

Officially, the case remains unsolved.

The Times' Larry Harnisch attributes fascination with the Black Dahlia case to the fact that the killing was a "gruesome, unsolved murder of an attractive victim with a haunting nickname."

She picked up the nickname because of her black outfits and black hair and because a movie of that era was titled "The Blue Dahlia."

Short's mutilated body was found Jan. 15, 1947, in a vacant lot on Norton Avenue in the Leimert Park area.

More than 50 delusional characters confessed. No one was ever arrested.

Over the years, the villain has variously been identified as a pipe salesman, a doctor, a cop, a mobster, a cafe owner and an actor.

Meanwhile, it is too soon to predict the outcome of the investigation into the Nov. 16 slaying of Ronni Chasen. But, as the above cases illustrate (all too brutally), not every Hollywood story has a happy ending. And some have no ending at all.

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The sound stages of major Hollywood Studios are loaded with ghosts. You can feel them as you walk the lot.
I'm currently working on stage-15, 30 & 28 at Sony Studios. Sony was once the MGM lot. On stage 15, they filmed the Wizard of Oz, on stg 30, MGM filmed water musicals with diving champ turned movie star, Stg. 28 is the tallest sound stage in town, about ten stories from floor to ceiling. I knew a grip who fell to his death from a cat walk near the ceiling, 92'. The "Little Rascals" ran thru this lot as kids, and a child star Elizabeth Taylor starred in National Velvet in the 40's. Too many ghosts to count in Hollywood. And Gable, Lombard, Harlow, Tracy & Hepburn were all MGM contract players at MGM, back in the days of Thalberg & Louis B. Mayer. And who could forget Shirley Temple? I did some big films on the lot, but Poltergeist I & II were the strangest. The cast was jinxed just as the Rebel Without A Cause cast was jinxed.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 28 Nov 2010, 16:30
by Rick Farris
bennie wrote:Image


A career-best win for Carl Froch, who proved too big, strong and clever for Abraham, a blown-up middleweight.
Carl Froch :bow: He did very well, I was wrong about him.
Glad to see the Brit come out on top. I wouldn't mind seeing him hand American Andre Ward a first loss. Who knows?

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 28 Nov 2010, 17:09
by Panzerfaust
Rick Farris wrote:
bennie wrote:Image


A career-best win for Carl Froch, who proved too big, strong and clever for Abraham, a blown-up middleweight.
Carl Froch :bow: He did very well, I was wrong about him.
Glad to see the Brit come out on top. I wouldn't mind seeing him hand American Andre Ward a first loss. Who knows?
I believe he can, Ward seemed to be troubled a bit by Bika's brawling. So im sure Froch can cause him trouble with his jab and brawling on the inside

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 28 Nov 2010, 17:45
by kikibalt
Been working on my fav computer for the last two days, got a bug some how....

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 28 Nov 2010, 18:55
by Expug
Rick Farris wrote:On the road with the Black Hawks . . .

Turkey, stuffing, pie, a little wine, the Twilight Zone marathon . . . a quiet Thanksgiving for Monica & I this year.
Our pal Brian Higgins is in San Jose with the the Stanley Cup winning Chicago Black Hawks tonight.
Tomorrow he'll be in Anaheim, where the Hawks play the Ducks, and then Saturday at the Staples Center for the Kings.
I forget how many cities the Black Hawks hit on this 12-day tour, but our ExPug is in charge of security, keeps them safe off the ice.

Great seeing you guys Rick,Monica,Jeri,and Randy.
Its great to see all of you doing well and looking great.I always knew that hockey might be something the four of you would enjoy.
Similar mindset to boxing.No prima donnas allowed.
Looking forward to June...

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 28 Nov 2010, 19:09
by Rick Farris
Expug wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:On the road with the Black Hawks . . .

Turkey, stuffing, pie, a little wine, the Twilight Zone marathon . . . a quiet Thanksgiving for Monica & I this year.
Our pal Brian Higgins is in San Jose with the the Stanley Cup winning Chicago Black Hawks tonight.
Tomorrow he'll be in Anaheim, where the Hawks play the Ducks, and then Saturday at the Staples Center for the Kings.
I forget how many cities the Black Hawks hit on this 12-day tour, but our ExPug is in charge of security, keeps them safe off the ice.

Great seeing you guys Rick,Monica,Jeri,and Randy.
Its great to see all of you doing well and looking great.I always knew that hockey might be something the four of you would enjoy.
Similar mindset to boxing.No prima donnas allowed.
Looking forward to June...
The Chicago Black Hawks . . .

It was great seeing the world champ Black Hawks play the Kings at the Staples Center.
A great game, with a great fight. Randy and I really hit our feet when the Black Hawk turned the King into a bloody Queen. :lol:
It was a great night with some great friends. Brian, I want to thank you for the great seats and VIP treatment. I'm just starting to learn about Hockey and you were right about the players, very down to earth and natural. They are fighters in their own right, and when the fists began to fly, Randy and I were tuned in. :OhYes:
As a guest of the Hawks we were glad to see them whip the Kings 2-1, as they did the Ducks the night before, 4-1.
Looking forward to June when we'll all hook-up again at the CBHOF lunch!
One more thing, It was great to be around the world champ Stanley Cup winners. I'll always remember that photo of you hoisting up the Stanley Cup after the Hawks beat Detroit.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 28 Nov 2010, 19:45
by Rick Farris
Happy Birthday Bobby Chacon!

The former champ turned 59 today.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 28 Nov 2010, 19:57
by Rick Farris
Why not Pac-Marquez #3 ???

Certainly J.M. Marquez deserves a shot at Pac. Pac outpointed Marquez in one match, they drew in the other. Although Pac scored more points, Marquez won more rounds. Why should Pac be forced to fight bigger stronger men in order to get fights, when he could comfortably meet Marquez at a fair weight for both? I don't think the Marquez would fare well in a match, but it would be far more compelling to watch Pac and Marquez, than Shane Mosely. I think it would be a better match for Pac than forcing him to fight big men each time out. A Marquez match would likely out draw one with the bigger guys? I don't think it would be a good fight for Marquez in a physical sense, and I believe he will be KOed this time. But he deserves the shot more than anybody else and a chance to go out with a huge purse. And, regardless of my feelings, he has a chance with any boxer who will stand and fight.
-My opinion.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 28 Nov 2010, 20:40
by Randyman
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RicK, Brian and me

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Rick, Monica, Brian and Jeri

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Some Hockey action from last nights game between the Blackhawks and the Kings.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 28 Nov 2010, 20:47
by Randyman
Expug wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:On the road with the Black Hawks . . .

Turkey, stuffing, pie, a little wine, the Twilight Zone marathon . . . a quiet Thanksgiving for Monica & I this year.
Our pal Brian Higgins is in San Jose with the the Stanley Cup winning Chicago Black Hawks tonight.
Tomorrow he'll be in Anaheim, where the Hawks play the Ducks, and then Saturday at the Staples Center for the Kings.
I forget how many cities the Black Hawks hit on this 12-day tour, but our ExPug is in charge of security, keeps them safe off the ice.

Great seeing you guys Rick,Monica,Jeri,and Randy.
Its great to see all of you doing well and looking great.I always knew that hockey might be something the four of you would enjoy.
Similar mindset to boxing.No prima donnas allowed.
Looking forward to June...
Brian, thanks for a great evening and a great introduction to hockey. Rick and I are a couple of L.A. guys but we were rooting for the Blackhawks last night. It was great watching the Champs at work. I could get into watching hockey. I think the Blackhawks made a fan out of Jeri.

The best part though was meeting up with you after the game. It was good seeing you again!

Thanks again Brian, you're a stand up guy in the truest sense of the word.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 28 Nov 2010, 21:01
by Randyman
Rick Farris wrote:Why not Pac-Marquez #3 ???

Certainly J.M. Marquez deserves a shot at Pac. Pac outpointed Marquez in one match, they drew in the other. Although Pac scored more points, Marquez won more rounds. Why should Pac be forced to fight bigger stronger men in order to get fights, when he could comfortably meet Marquez at a fair weight for both? I don't think the Marquez would fare well in a match, but it would be far more compelling to watch Pac and Marquez, than Shane Mosely. I think it would be a better match for Pac than forcing him to fight big men each time out. A Marquez match would likely out draw one with the bigger guys? I don't think it would be a good fight for Marquez in a physical sense, and I believe he will be KOed this time. But he deserves the shot more than anybody else and a chance to go out with a huge purse. And, regardless of my feelings, he has a chance with any boxer who will stand and fight.
-My opinion.
I don't know either Rick, if Marquez could beat Pacquiao at this stage of both their careers but if there is any fighter that deserves a crack at Pacquiao, regardless of the money, it's Marquez. I do think though, that Marquez will always have the right style to give Pacquiao a tough fight, especially if they do it at at 140lbs.

Despite his loss to Mayweather, Marquez has proven himself to be an all rime great and one of the pound for pound best in boxing today. I don't know how much longer he'll keep fighting but I'll keep rooting for him whoever he fights.

Last nights fight between Marquez and Katsidis was a tough fight but Marquez like our own Danny"Little Red" Lopez, really gets going once he gets knocked down.

Here's hoping for a third fight between Marquez and Pacquiao.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 28 Nov 2010, 21:02
by kikibalt
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Rick, Brian & Randy at Staples Center

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 28 Nov 2010, 21:03
by Randyman
Rick Farris wrote:Happy Birthday Bobby Chacon!

The former champ turned 59 today.
Happy Birthday Bobby!And many more.

A fan
Randy

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 28 Nov 2010, 21:10
by Randyman
Panzerfaust wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:
bennie wrote:Image


A career-best win for Carl Froch, who proved too big, strong and clever for Abraham, a blown-up middleweight.
Carl Froch :bow: He did very well, I was wrong about him.
Glad to see the Brit come out on top. I wouldn't mind seeing him hand American Andre Ward a first loss. Who knows?
I believe he can, Ward seemed to be troubled a bit by Bika's brawling. So im sure Froch can cause him trouble with his jab and brawling on the inside
Ward seems decent enough but a couple of fights ago during the tournament he was being hailed as the next Sugar Ray Leonard. I didn't see anything remotely close to a Sugar Ray Leonard. If Ward can beat Froch or vice versa I'll give them their due respect.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 28 Nov 2010, 22:11
by Randyman
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Jeri, Monica and Rick at Rock"N' Fish Restaurant at L.A. Live in Downtown Los Angeles. Jeri and I really had a great time with you and Monica, Rick. Were looking forward to doing it again!

Randy :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 29 Nov 2010, 01:38
by CNorkusJr
Love that hockey posting ! You guys look great stepping out. No doubt a good time had by all. Hockey up here in the northeast is big time. Though my NY Islanders managed just 1 victory in last 13 games. The Rangers are faring better. Just think Rick, if you stayed in Detroit for the "Detroit 1-2-3" show, you would be in "Hockeytown USA" rooting on those Red Wings. :oo
You would have to give up those Hollywood tans though. :oo
Glad your back in CA working on Spiderman though.

Brian sounds like a squared away guy, glad he is associated with a Champion Team.
And I for one wouldn't want to tussle with him. Looks like he could tag either Klitschko on their chin a pretty good pop.

Rick, watched "The Natural" again for the umpteenth time. I think you mentioned you were in Buffalo for that one years ago. There was some fine "special" lighting effects going on in that movie if your looking for it like I was. A very artistic film.
One of my favorites of all-time.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 29 Nov 2010, 05:24
by bennie
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Leslie Nielsen, who traded in his dramatic persona for inspired bumbling as a hapless doctor in "Airplane!" and the accident-prone detective Frank Drebin in "The Naked Gun" comedies, died on Sunday in Fort Lauderdale, Fla. He was 84.
The Canadian-born actor died from complications from pneumonia at a hospital near his home at 5:34 p.m., surrounded by his wife, Barbaree, and friends, his agent John S. Kelly said in a statement.
"We are saddened by the passing of beloved actor Leslie Nielsen, probably best remembered as Lt. Frank Drebin in 'The Naked Gun' series of pictures, but who enjoyed a more than 60-year career in motion pictures and television," said Kelly.
Nielsen came to Hollywood in the mid-1950s after performing in 150 live television dramas in New York. With a craggily handsome face, blond hair and 6-foot-2 height, he seemed ideal for a movie leading man.
Nielsen first performed as the king of France in the Paramount operetta "The Vagabond King" with Kathryn Grayson.
The film — he called it "The Vagabond Turkey" — flopped, but MGM signed him to a seven-year contract.
His first film for that studio was auspicious — as the space ship commander in the science fiction classic "Forbidden Planet." He found his best dramatic role as the captain of an overturned ocean liner in the 1972 disaster movie, "The Poseidon Adventure."
He became known as a serious actor, although behind the camera he was a prankster. That was an aspect of his personality never exploited, however, until "Airplane!" was released in 1980 and became a huge hit.
As the doctor aboard a plane in which the pilots, and some of the passengers, become violently ill, Nielsen says they must get to a hospital right away.
"A hospital? What is it?" a flight attendant asks, inquiring about the illness.
"It's a big building with patients, but that's not important right now," Nielsen deadpans.
When he asks a passenger if he can fly the plane, the man replies, "Surely you can't be serious."
Nielsen responds: "I am serious, and don't call me Shirley."
Critics argued he was being cast against type, but Nielsen disagreed.
"I've always been cast against type before," he said, adding comedy was what he'd really always wanted to do.
It was what he would do for most of the rest of his career, appearing in such comedies as "Repossessed" (a takeoff on the demonic possession movies like "The Exorcist") and "Mr. Magoo," in which he played the title role of the good-natured bumbler.
Nielsen did play Debbie Reynolds' sweetheart in the popular "Tammy and the Bachelor," a loanout to Universal, and he became well known to baby boomers for his role as the Revolutionary War fighter Francis Marion in the Disney TV adventure series "The Swamp Fox."
Unhappy with his roles at MGM, he asked to be released from his contract. As a freelancer, he appeared in a series of undistinguished movies.
"I played a lot of leaders, autocratic sorts; perhaps it was my Canadian accent," he reasoned.
Meanwhile, he remained active in television in guest roles. He also starred in his own series, "The New Breed," "The Protectors" and "Bracken's World," but all were short-lived.
Then "Airplane!" captivated audiences and changed everything.
Producers-directors-writers Jim Abrahams, David and Jerry Zucker had hired Robert Stack, Peter Graves, Lloyd Bridges and Nielsen to spoof their heroic TV images in a satire of flight-in-jeopardy movies.
After the movie's success, the filmmaking trio cast their newfound comic star as Detective Drebin in a TV series, "Police Squad," which trashed the cliches of "Dragnet" and other cop shows. Despite good reviews, NBC canceled it after only four episodes.
"It didn't belong on TV," Nielsen later commented. "It had the kind of humor you had to pay attention to."
The Zuckers and Abraham converted the series into a feature film, "The Naked Gun," with George Kennedy, O.J. Simpson and Priscilla Presley as Nielsen's co-stars. Its huge success led to sequels "The Naked Gun 2 1/2" and "The Naked Gun 33 1/3."
His later movies included "All I Want for Christmas," "Dracula: Dead and Loving It" and "Spy Hard."
Between films he often turned serious, touring with his one-man show on the life of the great defense lawyer, Clarence Darrow.
Nielsen was born Feb. 11, 1926 in Regina, Saskatchewan.
He grew up 200 miles south of the Arctic Circle at Fort Norman, where his father was an officer of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.
The parents had three sons, and Nielsen once recalled, "There were 15 people in the village, including five of us. If my father arrested somebody in the winter, he'd have to wait until the thaw to turn him in."
The elder Nielsen was a troubled man who beat his wife and sons, and Leslie longed to escape. As soon as he graduated from high school at 17, he joined the Royal Canadian Air Force, even though he was legally deaf (he wore hearing aids most of his life.)
After the war, Nielsen worked as a disc jockey at a Calgary radio station, then studied at a Toronto radio school operated by Lorne Greene, who would go on to star on the hit TV series "Bonanza." A scholarship to the Neighborhood Playhouse brought him to New York, where he immersed himself in live television.
Nielsen also was married to: Monica Boyer, 1950-1955; Sandy Ullman, 1958-74; and Brooks Oliver, 1981-85.
Nielsen and his second wife had two daughters, Thea and Maura.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 29 Nov 2010, 08:57
by Rick Farris
bennie wrote:Image


Leslie Nielsen, who traded in his dramatic persona for inspired bumbling as a hapless doctor in "Airplane!" and the accident-prone detective Frank Drebin in "The Naked Gun" comedies, died on Sunday in Fort Lauderdale, Fla. He was 84.
The Canadian-born actor died from complications from pneumonia at a hospital near his home at 5:34 p.m., surrounded by his wife, Barbaree, and friends, his agent John S. Kelly said in a statement.
"We are saddened by the passing of beloved actor Leslie Nielsen, probably best remembered as Lt. Frank Drebin in 'The Naked Gun' series of pictures, but who enjoyed a more than 60-year career in motion pictures and television," said Kelly.
Nielsen came to Hollywood in the mid-1950s after performing in 150 live television dramas in New York. With a craggily handsome face, blond hair and 6-foot-2 height, he seemed ideal for a movie leading man.
Nielsen first performed as the king of France in the Paramount operetta "The Vagabond King" with Kathryn Grayson.
The film — he called it "The Vagabond Turkey" — flopped, but MGM signed him to a seven-year contract.
His first film for that studio was auspicious — as the space ship commander in the science fiction classic "Forbidden Planet." He found his best dramatic role as the captain of an overturned ocean liner in the 1972 disaster movie, "The Poseidon Adventure."
He became known as a serious actor, although behind the camera he was a prankster. That was an aspect of his personality never exploited, however, until "Airplane!" was released in 1980 and became a huge hit.
As the doctor aboard a plane in which the pilots, and some of the passengers, become violently ill, Nielsen says they must get to a hospital right away.
"A hospital? What is it?" a flight attendant asks, inquiring about the illness.
"It's a big building with patients, but that's not important right now," Nielsen deadpans.
When he asks a passenger if he can fly the plane, the man replies, "Surely you can't be serious."
Nielsen responds: "I am serious, and don't call me Shirley."
Critics argued he was being cast against type, but Nielsen disagreed.
"I've always been cast against type before," he said, adding comedy was what he'd really always wanted to do.
It was what he would do for most of the rest of his career, appearing in such comedies as "Repossessed" (a takeoff on the demonic possession movies like "The Exorcist") and "Mr. Magoo," in which he played the title role of the good-natured bumbler.
Nielsen did play Debbie Reynolds' sweetheart in the popular "Tammy and the Bachelor," a loanout to Universal, and he became well known to baby boomers for his role as the Revolutionary War fighter Francis Marion in the Disney TV adventure series "The Swamp Fox."
Unhappy with his roles at MGM, he asked to be released from his contract. As a freelancer, he appeared in a series of undistinguished movies.
"I played a lot of leaders, autocratic sorts; perhaps it was my Canadian accent," he reasoned.
Meanwhile, he remained active in television in guest roles. He also starred in his own series, "The New Breed," "The Protectors" and "Bracken's World," but all were short-lived.
Then "Airplane!" captivated audiences and changed everything.
Producers-directors-writers Jim Abrahams, David and Jerry Zucker had hired Robert Stack, Peter Graves, Lloyd Bridges and Nielsen to spoof their heroic TV images in a satire of flight-in-jeopardy movies.
After the movie's success, the filmmaking trio cast their newfound comic star as Detective Drebin in a TV series, "Police Squad," which trashed the cliches of "Dragnet" and other cop shows. Despite good reviews, NBC canceled it after only four episodes.
"It didn't belong on TV," Nielsen later commented. "It had the kind of humor you had to pay attention to."
The Zuckers and Abraham converted the series into a feature film, "The Naked Gun," with George Kennedy, O.J. Simpson and Priscilla Presley as Nielsen's co-stars. Its huge success led to sequels "The Naked Gun 2 1/2" and "The Naked Gun 33 1/3."
His later movies included "All I Want for Christmas," "Dracula: Dead and Loving It" and "Spy Hard."
Between films he often turned serious, touring with his one-man show on the life of the great defense lawyer, Clarence Darrow.
Nielsen was born Feb. 11, 1926 in Regina, Saskatchewan.
He grew up 200 miles south of the Arctic Circle at Fort Norman, where his father was an officer of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.
The parents had three sons, and Nielsen once recalled, "There were 15 people in the village, including five of us. If my father arrested somebody in the winter, he'd have to wait until the thaw to turn him in."
The elder Nielsen was a troubled man who beat his wife and sons, and Leslie longed to escape. As soon as he graduated from high school at 17, he joined the Royal Canadian Air Force, even though he was legally deaf (he wore hearing aids most of his life.)
After the war, Nielsen worked as a disc jockey at a Calgary radio station, then studied at a Toronto radio school operated by Lorne Greene, who would go on to star on the hit TV series "Bonanza." A scholarship to the Neighborhood Playhouse brought him to New York, where he immersed himself in live television.
Nielsen also was married to: Monica Boyer, 1950-1955; Sandy Ullman, 1958-74; and Brooks Oliver, 1981-85.
Nielsen and his second wife had two daughters, Thea and Maura.

What a great actor & wonderful man Leslie Nielson was. I had the very good luck of working with him on one of Michael Landon's Highway To Heaven productions. I'll share more about the experience later, and a nice photo he gave me.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 29 Nov 2010, 09:04
by Rick Farris
CNorkusJr wrote:Love that hockey posting ! You guys look great stepping out. No doubt a good time had by all. Hockey up here in the northeast is big time. Though my NY Islanders managed just 1 victory in last 13 games. The Rangers are faring better. Just think Rick, if you stayed in Detroit for the "Detroit 1-2-3" show, you would be in "Hockeytown USA" rooting on those Red Wings. :oo
You would have to give up those Hollywood tans though. :oo
Glad your back in CA working on Spiderman though.

Brian sounds like a squared away guy, glad he is associated with a Champion Team.
And I for one wouldn't want to tussle with him. Looks like he could tag either Klitschko on their chin a pretty good pop.

Rick, watched "The Natural" again for the umpteenth time. I think you mentioned you were in Buffalo for that one years ago. There was some fine "special" lighting effects going on in that movie if your looking for it like I was. A very artistic film.
One of my favorites of all-time.
Charlie, you're right about Brian. He was an unbeaten heavyweight as a pro and today an accomplished Judo/MMA practitioner. The Hawks are in good hands. As for Detroit, Brian and I planned to hook up there when he wasin town, but I was lucky to escape before the cold winter. :OhYes:
The Natural is beautiful, one of cinematogrpher Caleb Deschanels best. We were in Buffalo for six weeks in 1983.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 29 Nov 2010, 09:37
by kikibalt
Pacquiao has just one Mayweather Jr. alternative: Marquez
November 28, 2010

Manny Pacquiao's decision making has been impeccable.

Running for congress in the Philippines has given him saint-like stature.

Blowing off the disrespect he received from Floyd Mayweather Jr. in an ill-conceived video bashing the Filipino superstar kept him above the fray.

Conquering Antonio Margarito on Nov. 13 after the Tijuana fighter and his camp apparently mocked Pacquiao's Parkinson's-stricken trainer, Freddie Roach, provided an example of staying quiet and carrying a powerful punch.

Something happened Saturday night, however, to paint Pacquiao into an uncomfortable corner.

Juan Manuel Márquez impressively defended his lightweight boxing title in Las Vegas by scoring a ninth-round technical knockout over challenger Michael Katsidis.

What we know is that Pacquiao is scheduled to huddle with promoter Bob Arum and trainer Roach on Dec. 17 in the Philippines to discuss the next opponent.

Late Saturday night, Richard Schaefer, the promoter who has directed all of Mayweather's fights since 2007, indicated Mayweather won't be ready to commit to fighting at least until after a January court hearing.

The unbeaten boxer is facing a felony charge in an incident in which he allegedly hit his ex-girlfriend in front of their children.

"Mayweather is dealing with a legal situation, and it'd be extremely disrespectful to go ahead with the planning of a fight and act as if what's going on in court is irrelevant," Schaefer said.

So that leaves planning a fight with Marquez, who overcame getting knocked down in the third round Saturday and connected on 327 punches to Katsidis' 194 even though the challenger is seven years younger.

For good measure, Marquez showed up at the post-fight news conference in a T-shirt reading, "Marquez beat Pacquiao twice," and pushing for a trilogy, a third fight to cap their 2004 draw and 2008 split decision won by Pacquiao.

"When Juan lost that [2008] fight, we immediately asked for a rematch, and Bob Arum said it needed time to mature," Marquez promoter Schaefer said. "Well, it's matured."

There's bickering about the weight. Marquez would prefer it to be 140, but Pacquiao's camp wants a Marquez fight at 147, although Pacquiao has said his best fighting weight is 140. Pacquiao weighed just 144.6 pounds against Margarito in the 150-pound fight, but this is gamesmanship, and in a rare development, Pacquiao appears to be on the wrong side of what's right.

In his quest for Pacquiao-Marquez III, Marquez claimed victory in the 2009 fight of the year over Juan Diaz, and his exciting victory over Katsidis is a strong candidate for this year's fight of the year.

Denying Marquez after the two close fights would put Pacquiao in a prickly spot. Now, settling for someone like Andre Berto or Shane Mosley or Miguel Cotto would invite criticism.

Schaefer's company is locked in a lawsuit with Pacquiao's promoter, but that's gamesmanship, too, and a company official said should Pacquiao and Marquez strike a fight deal, the question would be, "What lawsuit?"

Schaefer said he'd be calling Todd duBoef in Pacquiao's promotional company Monday morning in an attempt to thaw an icy relationship in the interest of "giving the fans the fight they want to see."

Marquez "did everything possible [Saturday] to show he's the most talented guy and show why he'd give Pacquiao so much trouble in a third fight."

Pacquiao can decide not to take the Marquez challenge again.

But why mess with success?

-- Lance Pugmire
latimes.com

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 29 Nov 2010, 09:45
by bennie
Rick Farris wrote:
bennie wrote:Image


Leslie Nielsen, who traded in his dramatic persona for inspired bumbling as a hapless doctor in "Airplane!" and the accident-prone detective Frank Drebin in "The Naked Gun" comedies, died on Sunday in Fort Lauderdale, Fla. He was 84.
The Canadian-born actor died from complications from pneumonia at a hospital near his home at 5:34 p.m., surrounded by his wife, Barbaree, and friends, his agent John S. Kelly said in a statement.
"We are saddened by the passing of beloved actor Leslie Nielsen, probably best remembered as Lt. Frank Drebin in 'The Naked Gun' series of pictures, but who enjoyed a more than 60-year career in motion pictures and television," said Kelly.
Nielsen came to Hollywood in the mid-1950s after performing in 150 live television dramas in New York. With a craggily handsome face, blond hair and 6-foot-2 height, he seemed ideal for a movie leading man.
Nielsen first performed as the king of France in the Paramount operetta "The Vagabond King" with Kathryn Grayson.
The film — he called it "The Vagabond Turkey" — flopped, but MGM signed him to a seven-year contract.
His first film for that studio was auspicious — as the space ship commander in the science fiction classic "Forbidden Planet." He found his best dramatic role as the captain of an overturned ocean liner in the 1972 disaster movie, "The Poseidon Adventure."
He became known as a serious actor, although behind the camera he was a prankster. That was an aspect of his personality never exploited, however, until "Airplane!" was released in 1980 and became a huge hit.
As the doctor aboard a plane in which the pilots, and some of the passengers, become violently ill, Nielsen says they must get to a hospital right away.
"A hospital? What is it?" a flight attendant asks, inquiring about the illness.
"It's a big building with patients, but that's not important right now," Nielsen deadpans.
When he asks a passenger if he can fly the plane, the man replies, "Surely you can't be serious."
Nielsen responds: "I am serious, and don't call me Shirley."
Critics argued he was being cast against type, but Nielsen disagreed.
"I've always been cast against type before," he said, adding comedy was what he'd really always wanted to do.
It was what he would do for most of the rest of his career, appearing in such comedies as "Repossessed" (a takeoff on the demonic possession movies like "The Exorcist") and "Mr. Magoo," in which he played the title role of the good-natured bumbler.
Nielsen did play Debbie Reynolds' sweetheart in the popular "Tammy and the Bachelor," a loanout to Universal, and he became well known to baby boomers for his role as the Revolutionary War fighter Francis Marion in the Disney TV adventure series "The Swamp Fox."
Unhappy with his roles at MGM, he asked to be released from his contract. As a freelancer, he appeared in a series of undistinguished movies.
"I played a lot of leaders, autocratic sorts; perhaps it was my Canadian accent," he reasoned.
Meanwhile, he remained active in television in guest roles. He also starred in his own series, "The New Breed," "The Protectors" and "Bracken's World," but all were short-lived.
Then "Airplane!" captivated audiences and changed everything.
Producers-directors-writers Jim Abrahams, David and Jerry Zucker had hired Robert Stack, Peter Graves, Lloyd Bridges and Nielsen to spoof their heroic TV images in a satire of flight-in-jeopardy movies.
After the movie's success, the filmmaking trio cast their newfound comic star as Detective Drebin in a TV series, "Police Squad," which trashed the cliches of "Dragnet" and other cop shows. Despite good reviews, NBC canceled it after only four episodes.
"It didn't belong on TV," Nielsen later commented. "It had the kind of humor you had to pay attention to."
The Zuckers and Abraham converted the series into a feature film, "The Naked Gun," with George Kennedy, O.J. Simpson and Priscilla Presley as Nielsen's co-stars. Its huge success led to sequels "The Naked Gun 2 1/2" and "The Naked Gun 33 1/3."
His later movies included "All I Want for Christmas," "Dracula: Dead and Loving It" and "Spy Hard."
Between films he often turned serious, touring with his one-man show on the life of the great defense lawyer, Clarence Darrow.
Nielsen was born Feb. 11, 1926 in Regina, Saskatchewan.
He grew up 200 miles south of the Arctic Circle at Fort Norman, where his father was an officer of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.
The parents had three sons, and Nielsen once recalled, "There were 15 people in the village, including five of us. If my father arrested somebody in the winter, he'd have to wait until the thaw to turn him in."
The elder Nielsen was a troubled man who beat his wife and sons, and Leslie longed to escape. As soon as he graduated from high school at 17, he joined the Royal Canadian Air Force, even though he was legally deaf (he wore hearing aids most of his life.)
After the war, Nielsen worked as a disc jockey at a Calgary radio station, then studied at a Toronto radio school operated by Lorne Greene, who would go on to star on the hit TV series "Bonanza." A scholarship to the Neighborhood Playhouse brought him to New York, where he immersed himself in live television.
Nielsen also was married to: Monica Boyer, 1950-1955; Sandy Ullman, 1958-74; and Brooks Oliver, 1981-85.
Nielsen and his second wife had two daughters, Thea and Maura.

What a great actor & wonderful man Leslie Nielson was. I had the very good luck of working with him on one of Michael Landon's Highway To Heaven productions. I'll share more about the experience later, and a nice photo he gave me.

He was hilariously funny, a comic genius.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 29 Nov 2010, 10:35
by THEHAMMER321
Leslie Nielsen, was obviously a talented actor, I am a fan of 1970s cop shows like Kojak, Cannon, Streets of San Francisco, and Leslie Nielsen always played a bad guy in those, but he hit stardom with the comedic Naked Gun series, as well as other comedies. R.I.P Leslie Nielsen :bow:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 29 Nov 2010, 11:01
by THEHAMMER321
I can hear the coffee perking. :TU: